[04:13] <faron> helloooooo ?? can anybody see me ??
[04:15] <faron> hello ?
[04:19] <buddee> hi
[04:20] <faron> hey there buddee
[04:21] <buddee> i see you
[04:21] <faron> alright !! Now,I'm lookin' good,huh ? Heh,heh.
[04:21] <buddee> lol
[04:22] <faron> was having a bit of a config prob with my IM pro {pidgin}
[04:22] <buddee> ah i c
[04:22] <buddee> welp lookin good now
[04:22] <faron> well,think all is well nowThjink I can {maybe } get offa here
[04:23] <faron> Heh,heh {maybe}
[04:23] <buddee> yea should be fine now
[04:24] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys .....if i installed xubuntu 8.04 LTS now .... can i upgrade ( with no problems ) to Xubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[04:25] <bazhang> cobra-the-joker, lts to lts are supported path, sure
[04:25] <faron> thats a good quest.That's what I run xubuntu 804
[04:25] <cobra-the-joker> I only install LTS versions in the any linux distro
[04:26] <faron> hey there bazhang how are you today
[04:26] <cobra-the-joker> i like stability :D
[04:26] <faron> ?
[04:26] <faron> that sounds liuke good avice cobra....... everybody keeps telling me to upgrade
[04:27] <faron> Boy ! I'll tell ya........I certainly agree with that !~ Heck,this vers's bad enough heh heh
[04:27] <cobra-the-joker> lol
[04:28] <faron> had a prob recently with a firefox update that I interrupted because I thought it was stuck now I have no bookmarks etc & my desktop disappeared
[04:28] <cobra-the-joker> :D
[04:29] <faron> all bkkmks gone all history all icons on desk
[04:29] <cobra-the-joker> my desktop hangs in 9.10 ...dont know why ... i am sure i have enough ram .... but *ubuntu is still cool
[04:30] <faron> Yaeh,that's a major issue with me...ram
[04:30] <faron> got 40 gig HD but only 248 on ram
[04:31] <faron> plenty room on HD but alot of things {flash movies} just suck
[04:32] <cobra-the-joker> i got my desktop 256 MB ram also ....its slow sometimes ...but i get things done ^_^
[04:32] <faron> it would seem that if I have that much HD  that I should be able to work around not having enough ram ??
[04:33] <faron> Do you ever have any probs with flash ?
[04:33] <cobra-the-joker> no ...never ...maybe with some other distros ..but not with ubuntu
[04:34] <faron> I like {have} to watch any television I want online for the moment & it sure would be nice to be able to do that with everythign all synched up ya know ? like audio & video. {lips synched up with what's beeing said on screen}
[04:35] <faron> Darn ! What's wrong with my system thnen ?
[04:35] <cobra-the-joker> you dont have your audio , video synched ?!
[04:36] <faron> Why can't I watch Craig Ferguson & 2 1/2 men online without problems ?? Darmnit !!
[04:36] <faron> Flash
[04:36] <cobra-the-joker> aha
[04:36] <faron> WHAT can I do ??????????????????????
[04:37] <faron> Oh,God.........If you could tell me.I'd kiss you !:-*:-X=-O
[04:38] <cobra-the-joker> lol ... i dont know actually
[04:38] <faron> Damrn
[04:39] <faron> So you don't have any probvs with flas with only 256 MB of ram ?
[04:40] <cobra-the-joker> no .... i dont remember having any
[04:40] <cobra-the-joker> sometimes if its higher resolution ...it lags sometimes
[04:40] <faron> hmmmmmmWell,now that now raises another issue.
[04:41] <psycho_oreos> figuratively speaking 256 is small
[04:41] <cobra-the-joker> but thats because of the VGA (not enough ram for the whole video  )
[04:41] <psycho_oreos> barely scraping off the mark
[04:44] <faron> Well,thanks for the little chat everybody.At least I know {at least for the time being} that pidgin is now working properly
[04:48] <faron> Hey guys......I saw a panel plug-in called {something like} "cpu governor".Can anybody tell me what that is ? What it does ?
[04:52] <electragician> Is GetDeb (both the site and repos) down?
[04:59] <psycho_oreos> faron, its like cpu frequency adjuster, you can adjust for performance, for on demand, powersaving etc
[05:00] <faron> the cpu governor sycho ?
[05:00] <faron> I guess we're still talking about that
[05:01] <psycho_oreos> yes its kinda like cpu speed stepping or whatever amd has
[05:01] <faron> I hadn't heard from anyone for awhile so I went to do something else
[05:02] <faron> Hmmmmm.Well now that sounds to me like that could help {maybe a little} hmmmm
[05:02] <psycho_oreos> only with a supported CPU of course
[05:02] <psycho_oreos> ahh AMD had powernow
[05:02] <psycho_oreos> intel was speedstep
[05:04] <psycho_oreos> lol I tinkered with that thing, didn't seem to do all that much so I removed it, now I don't have any of those speedstepping capability
[05:35] <Balsaq> Good morning Masters of the Code....
[05:58] <faron> can anybody tell my why attatched to my mouse pointer there is a spinning ball ?
[05:59] <Balsaq> what is your OS?
[06:06] <faron> balsaq....r u talking to me & are you still there ? if so......Xubuntu
[06:07] <faron> dats why i here in xubuntu channel
[06:07] <faron> heh heh
[06:07] <Balsaq> yes, you are the only to speak
[06:07] <Balsaq> do you still have a spinning ball attached to your pointer?
[06:07] <faron> oops
[06:07] <faron> yes
[06:07] <Balsaq> is it still spinning?
[06:07] <faron> argh !
[06:07] <faron> yes
[06:08] <Balsaq> is it the traditional buntu ball?
[06:08] <faron> weird
[06:08] <faron> nah,just like a circle
[06:08] <Balsaq> like the w7 circle?
[06:08] <faron> w7 ?
[06:08] <Balsaq> are you dual booting?
[06:09] <Balsaq> could you show us a screen shot?
[06:09] <faron> don't know what that is................it's almost like it's trying to say that something is going on somewhere ha
[06:09] <faron> no dual
[06:09] <Balsaq> so you have xubuntu installed to the HD/
[06:09] <Balsaq> ?
[06:10] <faron> yessir
[06:10] <faron> xubuntu on HD
[06:10] <Balsaq> when you move the pointer does the ball saty on the pointer?
[06:10] <faron> yessir
[06:11] <Balsaq> try rebooting
[06:11] <faron> just figured out it's only on the tab with my hotmail open
[06:11] <Balsaq> cool
[06:12] <Balsaq> wellt hat was exiting
[06:12] <faron> just refreshed page.........guess what ?
[06:12] <faron> it's gone
[06:12] <Balsaq> ball spinning on pointer
[06:13] <Balsaq> ah no ball
[06:13] <faron> si,no balsir
[06:13] <faron> hmmmmm funny
[06:13] <faron> guess that page really wasn't loaded completely
[06:14] <faron> wellsir think i'll go browse some news
[06:14] <faron> thanks for help
[06:15] <Balsaq> you are welcome, thank you for choosing xubuntu.
[06:16] <Balsaq> good morning os2mac, welcome to the lush sparsley populated binary rainforest known as xubuntu.....
[06:33] <os2mac> Hi
[06:36] <Balsaq> pull up a chair and stay awhile os2mac
[06:37] <os2mac> sorry it's my connection. I am in a hotel on an island literally 4k miles from anywhere... the connection could best be described as "iffy".
[06:38] <Balsaq> awesome...Antigua?
[06:41] <knome> morning Balsaq
[06:41] <knome> ;)
[06:41] <Balsaq> knome!
[06:43] <knome> how are we today
[06:43] <Balsaq> we are holding our own....n u?
[06:43] <knome> ready to take off in about 3 hours
[06:43] <Balsaq> where 2?
[06:44] <knome> london
[06:44] <Balsaq> whoah...business?
[06:44] <knome> yup, one could say so :P
[06:44] <Balsaq> hmmm buntu business?
[06:44] <knome> maybe
[06:44] <knome> maybe not:)
[06:44] <Balsaq> cool...how is your sister?
[06:45] <knome> heh, i suppose she is fine
[06:45] <knome> haven't sseen her in a while
[06:45] <Balsaq> i wonder if my nephew ever spoke to her again
[06:45] <knome> dunno :D
[06:45] <Balsaq> me neither
[06:46] <Balsaq> still can't believe i saw her face once and read her name and knew immediately it was your sister.
[06:46] <knome> heh
[06:46] <Balsaq> how long are you in London?
[06:46] <knome> coming back tuesday night
[06:47] <Balsaq> well i wish you a saf trip
[06:47] <Balsaq> safe*
[06:47] <knome> thanks :)
[06:48] <Balsaq> i read that ubuntu is going to come with a manual (book)...is xubuntu doing that also?
[06:49] <knome> i don't think a printed book, but yes, we are working on documentation... though our #1 doc guy had to take some time off
[06:49] <knome> (feel free to help with the docs!)
[06:50] <Balsaq> i printed a xubuntu manual off the net once only to learn later that it was an unreputable source.
[06:50] <Balsaq> yes i will...how do i do it?
[06:52] <Balsaq> i would like to get rid of the unaffiliated thing that is attached to my name
[06:52] <knome> um, i don't exactly know the steps
[06:52] <knome> but join #xubuntu-devel
[06:53] <knome> j1mc can tell you more, if he happens to be online someday
[06:53] <knome> i think others can also help
[06:53] <Balsaq> what about cody-sommerville
[06:53] <knome> he has resigned, but i suppose he would be able to help as well
[06:53] <Balsaq> wow who has his position
[06:54] <Balsaq> knome?
[06:54] <knome> for now, mr_pouit is our leader
[06:54] <Balsaq> hmmm, haven't met him
[06:54] <knome> until we get the governance review/change finished
[06:54] <knome> he'
[06:54] <knome> ...s a nice guy
[06:54] <knome> works hard for xubuntu
[06:54] <Balsaq> are you going for that someday?
[06:54] <knome> who knows. :)
[06:55] <knome> it really depends a lot
[06:56] <Balsaq> do you meet with the people who work on xubuntu...or is all online
[06:56] <Balsaq> is it all online i meant
[06:56] <knome> mostly online, but you can meet people for example in UDS
[06:57] <knome> which is the developer summit, organized twice a year
[07:18] <Balsaq> i dunno i an so green yet
[07:19] <Balsaq> i wish had stumbled onto this a long time ago
[08:11] <Sysi-> hmm, i've been thinking of making documentation if xubuntu in finnish for our loco
[08:11] <Sysi-> *of
[08:21] <slow-motion> hi
[08:22] <Balsaq> howdy slow
[08:22] <Balsaq> Sysi!!!!
[08:22] <Sysi-> o/
[08:23] <Balsaq> hola
[08:25] <Balsaq> sorry the Fins got wopped the other day
[08:25] <Balsaq> (hockey)
[08:25] <slow-motion> hi Balsaq, Sysi
[08:25] <Balsaq> wooped i meant
[08:26] <Sysi-> what's ip of google or something? i think "my" dns is broken
[08:28] <Balsaq> flv ideo editor for xp
[08:29] <Balsaq> 216.239.51.99
[08:29] <Balsaq> try that Sysi
[08:30] <Sysi-> and magically it started working
[08:30] <Balsaq> cool
[08:42] <knome_airport> >__<
[08:42] <knome_airport> the connection is horrible
[08:43] <Sysi-> in h-v?
[08:43] <knome_airport> yeah
[08:43] <knome_airport> damn slow and i don't even know if imap access is allowed
[08:44] <knome_airport> didn't read the TOS
[08:44] <knome_airport> but when i tried to access imap, the connection was closed
[08:44] <knome_airport> so i suppose that's not allowed
[08:53] <Hellhound666> Hi all, I have a question for ya's.
[08:53] <Hellhound666> I'm trying to install flash player 10 and I continually get a segmentation fault
[08:55] <Balsaq> You must uninstall any currently installed Flash Player before installing
[08:57] <Hellhound666> there isn't any installed I don't think but I'll do that just to make sure
[08:57] <Hellhound666> thanks
[08:57] <Balsaq> after that....
[08:58] <Balsaq> Now, install Flash 10 (make sure Firefox is not running):
[08:58] <Balsaq> $ sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[08:58] <Hellhound666> sudo dpkg
[08:58] <Hellhound666> ah okie
[08:58] <Balsaq> there you go
[08:59] <Hellhound666> Hey thanks a lot
[08:59] <Sysi-> i'd install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:59] <Balsaq> good one
[08:59] <Sysi-> other useful stuff, and flash
[08:59] <Hellhound666> check this out I'm running Xubuntu 9.10 on a compaq presario 700
[08:59] <Balsaq> thank you for choosing xubuntu...
[08:59] <Hellhound666> 20gb hdd 256mb ram and a 1ghz processor
[09:00] <Hellhound666> I'm running it on my good laptop too though
[09:00] <Hellhound666> I just can't seem to get rid of my old computers
[09:00] <Sysi-> with that cpu machine would be pretty fast with more ram
[09:00] <Hellhound666> yeah it would just freak out if I installed windows on it
[09:01] <Balsaq> that one prolly runs on pc100 sdram
[09:01] <Hellhound666> yeah but the ram modules are hard to get
[09:01] <Balsaq> seen them on ebay for 5 bucks
[09:01] <Balsaq> or even pc133
[09:01] <Hellhound666> I was reading up on it and they have to be the proper kind
[09:01] <Balsaq> yes
[09:01] <Hellhound666> else they over heat
[09:02] <Balsaq> i have a 450mgz and a 400mgz among other things here
[09:02] <Hellhound666> but it's worth taking a gander
[09:02] <Sysi-> just see what are original ones like
[09:02] <Hellhound666> can't get rid of your old pc's either huh
[09:02] <Balsaq> i like oldies for projects
[09:03] <Balsaq> people give away sdram for free sometimes
[09:03] <Hellhound666> yeah something to tinker with and not worry about damage
[09:03] <Balsaq> i actually stuffed 768 sdram in my oldest dell that only has 400mgz
[09:03] <Hellhound666> omg the old compaqs are so annoying to upgrade and get into
[09:04] <Balsaq> the book said it can only use 384
[09:04] <Hellhound666> how did you get the clock to sync right with it?
[09:04] <Balsaq> but linux allows it to use the 768sram
[09:04] <Hellhound666> oh
[09:04] <Balsaq> w98 would not run it correctly
[09:04] <Balsaq> when dell testes it they only tested it with windows
[09:04] <Balsaq> tested it
[09:04] <Hellhound666> no POST problems or anything?
[09:05] <Balsaq> not with linux
[09:05] <Hellhound666> that's nice man
[09:05] <Balsaq> i threw puppy in it
[09:05] <Balsaq> but it would xubuntu very well becasue it ran ubuntu...albeit a bit slow
[09:06] <Balsaq> but your has a better processor
[09:06] <Hellhound666> here this is the one I have http://www.satelliteguys.us/computer-electronic-gadgetszone/125315-ubuntu-compaq-presario-700-laptop.html
[09:06] <Hellhound666> yeah I had old red hat on there and it was moving pretty fast but it wouldn't update
[09:06] <Hellhound666> rhn subscription issue
[09:07] <Hellhound666> so I said screw it I'm not going to try to put urpmi on there and change the rep
[09:07] <Balsaq> nice one for buntu
[09:07] <Hellhound666> yeah it runs fairly well right now
[09:07] <Hellhound666> little laggy but like u said with a little bit more ram it may do alright
[09:07] <Balsaq> just add a touch more ram
[09:08] <Hellhound666> ya know what I've never opened up a laptop to work on.
[09:08] <Sysi-> ram is usually easy to add
[09:08] <Hellhound666> weird I have worked on plenty of desktops and servers
[09:08] <Hellhound666> yeah I'm sure
[09:09] <Hellhound666> I had to practically dislocate my arm to get ram in on the old compaq desktop
[09:10] <Hellhound666> I also have a 566mhz intel II with 256mb ram.  I might slap something on there.
[09:10] <Hellhound666> I might just sit it there and use it to do all my WEP stuff
[09:11] <Hellhound666> alright thanks everybody be back later
[09:29] <Balsaq> later
[10:01] <Balsaq> welcome xerox1...
[10:02] <xerox1> hi Balsaq
[10:03] <Balsaq> welcome to the temperate binary rainforest known as....xubuntu.
[10:57] <slow-motion> bye
[15:48] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi!
[15:49] <MalfermitaKodo> My webcam has stopped working for what seems to be no reason at all (but I use it not very often so didn't know what might've caused it)
[15:50] <MalfermitaKodo> Can you give me some pointers what could have happened, I looked at the pages about my laptop and it just says it should work out of the box
[16:54] <dmizer> i cannot find "workspace switcher" in the xfce4-panels "add new items" menu. how is this possible?
[16:55] <psycho_oreos> could it be from a dist-upgrade?
[16:56] <dmizer> it was not dist-upgraded.
[16:57] <dmizer> currently running xubuntu hardy. installed xubuntu hardy to a bare metal system.
[16:57] <psycho_oreos> heh hardy = old
[16:57] <dmizer> hardy = stable and reliable.
[16:58] <dmizer> hardy = works with my hardware.
[16:58] <dmizer> all of my other hardy xubuntu installs have "workspace switcher" in the "add new items" menu ... i am not sure how it can possibly be missing on this one.
[17:06] <dmizer> oh man ... i feel royally stupid now. in hardy, the "workspace switcher" is called "pager" =-O
[17:06] <psycho_oreos> heh
[17:07] <dmizer> well, it's been fun. thanks psycho_oreos
[17:08] <psycho_oreos> didn't do much but no probs dmizer
[17:45] <sasza> Hi everyone!
[17:45] <sasza> i have small problem, when i start system i get message "Hal deamon is not running"
[17:46] <sasza> but when i check /etc/init.d hal is running
[17:50] <sasza> can anyone help me?
[17:56] <francisco> how can i do to turn up the volumen when i restart xubuntu?
[18:02] <sasza> just turn up in volume applet
[18:02] <MalfermitaKodo> sasza: at which point do you get the message?
[18:04] <sasza> after start, when login screen apper
[18:04] <MalfermitaKodo> Okay, I think I localized the webcam issue somewhat... the kernel module uvcvideo sees the webcam but /dev/video0 does not exist
[18:04] <francisco> sasza: it doesn't work, because when i restart xubuntu it's mute again
[18:05] <MalfermitaKodo> francisco: start alsamixer and change the settings
[18:05] <sasza> so turn up again
[18:05] <MalfermitaKodo> I think alsamixer settings are retained between restarts
[18:05] <francisco> MalfermitaKodo: thanks
[18:06] <MalfermitaKodo> now... I have to admit that I never understood udev and so far it only caused problems but I guess it is unavoidable now... how can I trick udev into creating that special file?
[18:09] <francisco> the icon's names in the desktop are not complete showed
[18:09] <francisco> what can i do to resolve it?
[18:10] <francisco> specially when are not selected
[18:10] <MalfermitaKodo> select a smaller font size?
[18:10] <MalfermitaKodo> if you find something else, tell me
[18:11] <francisco> thantks again MalfermitaKodo
[18:11] <francisco> and... what can i do to change the icon's name in the desktop
[18:12] <francisco> ?
[18:12] <francisco> change it for another smaller
[18:14] <MalfermitaKodo> I guess
[18:25] <psycho_oreos> hmm you might need to create a special device
[19:05] <MalfermitaKodo> psycho_oreos: how?
[19:05] <MalfermitaKodo> I thought that was udev's task now
[19:05] <psycho_oreos> it probably is udev's task but I don't think udev will automagically know how to create a special device
[19:06] <psycho_oreos> especially a special device has all sorts of switches, check out man mknod
[19:07] <MalfermitaKodo> So you mean with major and minor number and all ... urk! Last time I did that was then 486s were considered good enough
[19:08] <psycho_oreos> pretty much, that is to create stuff in /dev anyway
[19:09] <psycho_oreos> if the device uses another file instead of /dev/video0 you can probably symlink it
[19:11] <MalfermitaKodo> can't see any reference to that
[19:11] <psycho_oreos> looks like you might have to manually create it
[19:53] <francisco> how can i rename my desktop icon's?
[19:54] <francisco> i have no permissions
[19:55] <MalfermitaKodo> you have no permission to edit your own icons?
[19:56] <francisco> i can't edit them
[19:56] <francisco> i don't know edit them
[19:56] <dbdii407> My mouse will not move again
[19:56] <dbdii407> Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[19:57] <dbdii407> Well, I should say click any other window
[19:59] <MalfermitaKodo> how is it connected?
[19:59] <dbdii407> Wirelessly
[19:59] <dbdii407> and wire-ly
[19:59] <dbdii407> Two mouses
[19:59] <dbdii407> both won't click
[20:00] <MalfermitaKodo> eeep
[20:00] <MalfermitaKodo> USB?
[20:00] <dbdii407> Mhmm
[20:01] <MalfermitaKodo> and have you tried killing X11?
[20:01] <dbdii407> Ummm no?
[20:01] <dbdii407> I wouldn't know how anyways
[20:03] <dbdii407> Can't google it either
[20:03] <dbdii407> Can't switch windows
[20:05] <MalfermitaKodo> Crtl+alt+backspace
[20:05] <dbdii407> Nothing happened? O_o
[20:07] <Sysi-> it's taken off
[20:07] <dbdii407> any other ideas?
[20:09] <francisco> can anyone rename the desktop icon's?
[20:13] <Sysi-> i try to keep my desktop as clean as possible :)
[20:13] <Sysi-> default icons or self-created?
[20:13] <dbdii407> i can't see my desktop. :P
[20:14] <dbdii407> wierd
[20:14] <dbdii407> this never happened in Ubuntu
[20:14] <MalfermitaKodo> weird...
[20:14] <MalfermitaKodo> crtl+alt+F1?
[20:14] <francisco> Sysi-: default icons
[20:14] <dbdii407> or linux mint on that note
[20:15] <Sysi-> francisco: they are created by thunar, might be matter of that
[20:15] <Sysi-> what if you create owns, similar to default?
[20:16] <dbdii407> MalfermitaKodo, Nope
[20:18] <dbdii407> Anyone know how to switch windows?
[20:19] <dbdii407> via keyboard?
[20:23] <Sysi-> alt tab
[20:24] <dbdii407> Nope. :(
[20:25] <Sysi-> :o
[20:26] <dbdii407> Screw it
[20:29] <francisco> Sysi-: how can i do that?
[20:29] <Sysi-> add launcher to desktop
[20:30] <francisco> Sysi-: but i don't know how can i do that
[20:30] <Sysi-> right click, add launcher
[20:30] <francisco> and then
[20:31] <Sysi-> can you take comand etc from original ones?
[20:58] <coldfire2122> can someone help me change the text on files and folders non left-justified aligned?
[21:08] <francisco> Sysi-: I can't
[21:09] <Sysi-> hmm, idk then, as said i don't use icons on desktop
[21:53] <linux1001> I have an issue trying to get my usb wireless adapter (linksys WUSB54GSCv2) to work with ndiswrapper. I have followed all the instructions I could find and I still cannot get it to work
[22:32] <eXpl0i7> nikolam:
[22:32] <eXpl0i7> serbia?
[22:37] <eXpl0i7> nikolam: javi se bre xD
[22:38] <nikolam> hello, english?
[22:38] <eXpl0i7> :)
[22:38] <nikolam> we have ubuntu-rs for serbian
[22:38] <nikolam> pleasecome there, thanks :)