[00:57] <coz_> hey guys..the grube2 GEOM error is on my end  not with grub2...I havent tracked down the reason for it but it has something to do with the xp installation becoming corrupt somehow...so  no grub2 bug at all ...
[00:58] <coz_> just thought i would let you know so there are no worries....I am in the process of reinstalling both windows and ubuntu now  will see if anything comes ofi t
[01:02] <arand> booboo: hmm, any reason for it, spontaneous MS combustion?
[01:03] <coz_> arand,  :)  yeah I suppose so but I dont know if there is really any to find out now....did the scsi low format on both disks
[01:04] <coz_> arand,  when I reinstalled ubuntu without any updates the same GEOM error occurred  so that meant...minimally.. that the primary scsi disk was problematic..although still accessable from linux   booting was not possible
[01:05] <coz_> arand,  so I will check if the drive itself is going bad or just the xp installation ...the latter would be more difficult to track down
[01:05] <arand> I know parted can do strange things sometimes, but I don't know..
[01:06] <coz_> sorry about that
[01:06] <coz_> arand,  well the confusing part is all worked well until this morning
[01:06] <coz_> arand,  so I "assumed" it had been caused by an update
[01:06] <coz_> arand,  i was cleraly wrong
[01:07] <coz_> clearly
[01:07] <coz_> the gedit bug however was on target
[01:22] <Pengyduckwin> Is plymouth already in the alpha or will it be in the final version?
[01:23] <xguru> its in alpha
[01:26] <arand> It
[01:27] <arand> Pengyduckwin: It is planned to be in final yes.
[01:27] <arand> Although, as always in the case of a big change, there are a bit of problems..
[01:28] <Scunizi> I have a xbox 360 dvd in my drive.. and can't mount it even with sudo mount /dev/dvdrw /media/cdrom0 .. How do I do this?
[01:29] <Scunizi> sorry.. wrong channel
[01:29] <Scunizi> unless you have an answer :)
[01:30] <Pengyduckwin> arand: That was why I was wondering, in case if I have boot-up problems
[01:51] <Volkodav> I have samba installed and /etc/init.d/samba start bash: /etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory
[02:00] <yofel> Volkodav: do you mean /etc/init.d/smbd ?
[02:01] <Volkodav> yes
[02:01] <Volkodav> service smbd start says it is running already
[02:04] <Volkodav> smbclient -L volkodav
[02:06] <Volkodav> Connection to volkodav failed (Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL)
[02:14] <yofel> Volkodav: what  does it say it you run 'restart smbd' ?
[02:16] <Volkodav> I just figured it out - it was a windoze box issue - all others see the shares
[02:16] <Volkodav> so it's all good
[02:16] <yofel> :)
[02:29] <histo> Volkodav: are you using sudo to start it?
[02:29] <histo> Volkodav: ahh
[03:01] <Stik> wtf is this yahoo search default? lol
[03:01] <seanbrystone> google ftw!
[03:13] <faileas> Stik: its all over the news ;p. they're paying canonical for it. ubuntu does need money yanno ;p
[03:13] <Stik> I need money too but I don't sell myself to M$ :P
[03:14] <Stik> No matter.. easy to change :D
[03:20] <seanbrystone> thats true M$ bought the Yahoo! Search Engine, so if Canoical takes money from Yahoo! they're taking money from the "enemy" (M$) *glares at canonical*
[03:22] <rww> 1) Microsoft didn't buy the Yahoo! search engine, 2) "M$" is rather silly and petty, 3) I don't see how Microsoft having less money and Canonical having more, in the wacky alternate universe where this is actually what's happening, is a bad thing.
[03:23] <seanbrystone> they did too it was just in the news the other day
[03:23] <rww> no, they didn't
[03:23] <seanbrystone> what ever
[03:24] <belak> Alright... have there been issues with the latest builds? I wanted to try out ubuntu again, but the latest lucid builds (which are the only ones to support my graphics card) always fail in the configuration...
[03:24] <belak> Actually, same issues with alpha 3
[03:24] <Stik> Other than the questionable judgement of selling out the firefox homepage to yahoo, Ubuntu seems pretty slick.
[03:24] <belak> It just refuses to install
[03:24] <rww> belak: Plymouth is still horribly broken for me. Apart from that and my wifi card, it's fine.
[03:24] <rww> Stik: How is that different from "selling out" the firefox homepage to Google?
[03:24] <belak> It won't even let me install the core system
[03:25] <Stik> Google didn't pay them to put it there
[03:25] <rww> Stik: You realize that Google pays Mozilla, right?
[03:26] <Stik> That has nothing to do with Canonical
[03:26] <seanbrystone> rww knows everything
[03:26] <Stik> You and I both know it
[03:26] <seanbrystone> cant argue with him
[03:26] <rww> Stik: The only difference is that it's Yahoo instead of Google, and the money is going to fund Canonical instead of Mozilla. How is the new way more "questionable" than the old way?
[03:27] <belak> Stik: how is Cannonical profiting from yahoo different from mozilla profiting from google?
[03:27] <rww> seanbrystone: No, i just actually looked into the issue instead of reading silliness on blogs and regurgitating it.
[03:27] <seanbrystone> rww your arrogance doesnt become you
[03:28] <Stik> When yahoo makes its messenger open source we can compare the two
[03:28] <rww> seanbrystone: Try actually backing up what you're saying, it works better than calling names.
[03:28] <seanbrystone> stik you dont have rww on ignore yet?
[03:28] <alex702> hello, where can i find xorg.conf?
[03:29] <Stik> Anyhow... I didn't want this to turn into some muscle flexing debate.. Just floored me to see yahoo as default page lol..
[03:29] <rww> alex702: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it's not created by default because Xorg does autodetection, but if you create it and put stuff in there, Xorg uses it.
[03:29] <Stik> No I don't ignore people who have different views than I :P
[03:29] <seanbrystone> rww has a superiority issue
[03:29] <seanbrystone> just ignore him
[03:29] <rww> seanbrystone: Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I have a superiority issue.
[03:30] <Stik> I am coming from slackware and already expected some sort of corperate injection in Ubuntu...
[03:30] <alex702> rww thanks
[03:31] <rww> Stik: I agree. Ubuntu is more business-influenced than Slackware or Debian (which is where I came from).
[03:32] <Jordan_U> rww, How do you feel about the fact that the money isn't in fact going to Mozilla anymore? That concerns me more than the Microsoft connection ( though even that not enough to really bother me ).
[03:33] <rww> Jordan_U: Jono Bacon's made comments to the effect that Mozilla doesn't mind. Assuming that's true (and I haven't heard anything to the contrary), I'm fine with it.
[03:35] <Stik> Suprised how well this alpha is running
[03:35] <seanbrystone> me too
[03:35] <seanbrystone> its nice
[03:36] <seanbrystone> oh wait, i got to "Back up" my statement on how well Ubuntu alpha is! I prolly just got that info from some blogs and regurgitating it ;)
[03:37] <Stik> :|
[03:53] <faileas> lol
[03:54]  * faileas notes its trivially easy to change your homepage
[03:55] <faileas> hmm
[03:56] <faileas> if the setup i'm planning on using works perfectly on the alpha... chances are things wouldn't likely break in beta and release right?
[04:01] <andy_> yo yo yo
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> isit ok to remove plymouth?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> will the system still boot without?
[04:02] <rww> ActionParsnip: yes, I did it, nothing bad happened.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> rww: sweet, cheers bro
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> exit
[04:06] <belak> rww: you still use slack?
[04:07] <rww> belak: That was Stik, not me. I was a Debian user (and still am on one of my machines, actually).
[04:08] <belak> Oh, ok. You like debian? I've never gotten it to work right...
[04:09] <rww> belak: Yep. I mainly switched to Ubuntu because I'm lazy and Ubuntu does more stuff for me, not because of any Debian problems :)
[04:09] <belak> :P
[04:09] <belak> Ok
[04:09] <belak> I want to use ubuntu again but I can't get it to install...
[04:09] <belak> It's making me mad.
[04:10] <belak> Are there any minimal ubuntu lucid install cds?
[04:11] <rww> belak: Elaborate on what you mean by "minimal"? There are a couple of options :)
[04:11] <belak> Net install
[04:11] <rww> ubottu: minimal | belak
[04:12] <belak> Is there one for lucid?
[04:12] <belak> I didn't see one
[04:12] <Stik> I'm switching cause I am all geeked out.. I want simple... Got better things to do with my time anymore than tweaking slackware...
[04:13] <belak> Ah
[04:13] <belak> Maybe this would be good for me then. That's why I want to use ubuntu...
[04:13] <rww> belak: If you replace "karmic" or "jaunty" or whatever in the links on that page with "lucid", it seems like you get a valid .iso. I don't know how often it's updated, though.
[04:14] <rww> looks like the 32-bit one is about 5 days old
[04:17] <faileas> the mimimal disk will download the latest packages anyway
[04:17] <belak> Which is why I want it
[04:17] <belak> Less room for error
[04:18] <rww> faileas: good point
[04:18] <rww> I prefer using the alpha milestone ISOs, personally. At least then you know there aren't any broken dependencies in the installation set, so you'll actually be able to install.
[04:20] <belak> rww: that didn't work for me...
[04:20] <belak> Believe me, I tried
[04:21] <belak> so, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/lucid/ ?
[04:21] <rww> belak: go there, select architecture, then download mini.iso, yeah.
[04:21] <belak> Ok, sweet
[04:21] <belak> I'll try tomorrow
[04:22] <belak> 'Night all
[04:45] <faileas> Stik: if you want simple why are you using an alpha? ;p
[04:45] <Stik> Been simple so far
[04:46] <faileas> i suppose so
[04:47] <Stik> I still have slack on my laptop.. If all goes well with this till release I will probably put it on my laptop as well
[04:55] <faileas> eheh
[04:56] <faileas> i'm trying out a mockup of what i want to use on a server. since i'm running most things dualstacked, i'm basically testing it all
[07:45] <AnAnt> Hello, is xsplash still used in lucid ? or is  plymouth  replacing it too ?
[07:46] <arand> AnAnt: Plymouth replaces, yes
[07:46] <AnAnt> thanks
[07:48] <vish> arand: you sure?  isnt usplash the only one replaced by plymouth? and xsplash was supposed to stay [iirc]
[07:49]  * vish thought the whole point of starting x early was for xsplash
[07:49] <arand> vish: AnAnt: Hmm, yea, I might be wrong..
[07:49] <ZykoticK9> any site documenting boot process in Lucid -- like Grub -> Plymouth -> GDM detailed?
[07:51] <arand> AnAnt: Yea, appears it only replaces usplash: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-lucid-xsplash
[07:52] <AnAnt> thanks
[07:53] <vish> @ping
[07:53] <vish> !ping
[08:43] <DaemonFC> Can anyone tell me why my Alt+F2 doesn't work?
[08:43] <isaac> hi there :D
[08:43] <isaac> somehow rebooted my lucid yesterday after a few weeks and it's not booting with any of the three kernels i have (2.6.32,31,30)
[08:43] <isaac> i guess there is something wrong with my initrd or whatever
[08:44] <isaac> recovery mode also fails to start
[08:44] <isaac> and if i boot with init=/bin/bash the keyboard doesn't work
[08:44] <BUGabundo_remote> m0rn|ng
[08:52] <arand> BUGabundo_remote: Careful... y|_|0 ar3 sl|pp1n9 into the sp33k there...
[09:01] <yofel> morning
[09:02] <DaemonFC> ok....is anyone else not getting the run dialog when you hit Alt+F2?
[09:02] <zniavre> it works here
[09:02] <DaemonFC> mine broke somewhere along the way
[09:03] <zniavre> do you modified the gnome-panel background?
[09:03] <zniavre> did you *
[09:04] <DaemonFC> no
[09:04] <zniavre> was old bug ... sorry
[09:04] <zniavre> alt-f2 is a parts of gnome-panel try to relaunch it
[09:05] <DaemonFC> logged out and in, fiddled with themes
[09:05] <DaemonFC> no luck
[09:05] <zniavre> :o)
[09:06] <zniavre> you should try launchpad bug
[09:08] <BUGabundo_remote> hey arand yofel
[09:17] <kjeldahl> After a recent update to Lucid alpha I'm experiencing trouble with Thunderbird 3. The widgets (menu, listboxes etc) do not update correctly. Selecting a menu shows the "outline" of the menu popup, but no content. Clicking on items in the listboxes updates the message display, but nothing is highlighted in the listbox itself. Any ideas?
[09:17] <kjeldahl> I was guessing xulrunner, but Firefox 3.6 seems to run just fine.
[09:43] <arand> BUGabundo_remote: Hey hey! (late as in late)
[09:44] <quentusrex> How is it going with lucid?
[09:45] <ikonia> DaemonFC: would you please join #ubuntu-ops
[09:45] <BUGabundo_remote> oops
[09:45] <BUGabundo_remote> what did he do?
[09:46] <BUGabundo_remote> last time you called me in there, I was in serious troubles
[09:47] <rww> quentusrex: excitingly :). Lots of improvements, but still lots of crashes
[09:48] <quentusrex> fun fun
[09:50] <quentusrex> rww, any particular exciting new features?
[10:10] <jetdrone> hi does this channel discuss only ubuntu or can i make some kubuntu questions too?
[10:12] <rww> jetdrone: You can ask Kubuntu questions too, I think.
[10:13] <yofel> jetdrone: sure, this channel is for anything lucid related
[10:14] <jetdrone> ok, rww, so i've created an usb stick with alpha3 for kubuntu but the installer crashes everytime and the anoying thing is that the usb stick only boots once, atfer a boot, i need to recreate it, any thoughts on how to fix that?
[10:14] <jetdrone> i'm creating the bootable stick with the usb-creator from karmic
[10:22] <arand> jetdrone: I've *heard* usb-creator is not the most reliable, so maybe unetbootin would work better, (might just be the state of the daily though..
[10:23] <jetdrone> ok, i'll give unetbootin a try and compare the results
[10:50] <jetdrone> nope doesn't install same results, and running with debug from command line doesn't output any logging either
[11:10] <arand> jetdrone: bugreportin'time!
[11:15] <jetdrone> will do
[11:16] <arand> Well, unless already reported of course
[13:07] <TeTeT> is suspend blacklisted for T61? I get a 'Failed to suspend\nyour computer failed to suspend...' message when using fn-f4. Suspend works fine with pm-suspend called directly
[13:41] <pecisk> anyone have run into problems with nouveau and LiveCD Alpha 3? CD spews lot of reading errors and in the end doesn't work correctly (launching Firefox crashed desktop). CD-RW is allright, I burned it with several other distros and they worked fine.
[13:41] <pecisk> it happened on multiple computers
[13:42] <pecisk> so I want to understand is this a bug i should report or some small annoyance
[13:56] <arand> pecisk: One thing that might be worth a try is to test the dailies as well, to make sure it's not just that iso.
[13:57] <pecisk> well, it happened with two different dailies, with three days between
[14:12] <needhelp> hello
[14:13] <needhelp> anyone here care to help me?
[14:13] <needhelp> hello
[14:13] <faileas> !help
[14:14] <vega> help help, somebody help!
[14:14] <needhelp> anyone know how to install GDM into Lucid?
[14:14] <needhelp> im about to install new GDM, but in lucid there is no menu like hardy last time
[14:15] <vega> err
[14:15] <vega> gdm is installed by default, afaik
[14:15] <faileas> sudo apt-get install gdm ?
[14:16] <vega> don't understand what you are trying to accomplish..
[14:16] <needhelp> how can i change the default gdm ?
[14:16] <vega> "default gdm" ?
[14:16] <pecisk> :)
[14:16] <vega> gdm = gnome display manager
[14:16] <needhelp> ok, i have download a few GDM theme n would like to change the default login menu
[14:16] <rzx237> gdm-legacy maybe
[14:17] <needhelp> meaning?
[14:17] <pecisk> gdm2setup
[14:17] <pecisk> is application you are looking for
[14:17] <needhelp> oh ok
[14:18] <needhelp> i can get in the ubuntu software center?
[14:19] <rzx237> how to install lucid-desktop-alpha3 without burning it to cd?
[14:19] <pecisk> needhelp: read instructions here https://edge.launchpad.net/gdm2setup
[14:19] <pecisk> those lines with sudo in the begining
[14:19] <needhelp> im on it
[14:19] <needhelp> thnx a lot
[14:19] <pecisk> np
[14:19] <pecisk> ;)
[14:19] <needhelp> :P
[14:19] <pecisk> or use software sources if you want gui for adding PPA
[14:20] <vega> rzx237: usb stick?
[14:20] <pecisk> rzx237: what do you mean by without burning? usb stick?
[14:20] <pecisk> rzx237: or testing in virtual environment
[14:20] <rzx237> no, I dont get it. I mean using hard disk
[14:21] <pecisk> rzx237: what distro/operational system you have now?
[14:21] <rzx237> pecisk: no, to a partition. I have karmic.
[14:21] <pecisk> ahhh
[14:21] <pecisk> rzx237: google for "debootstrap Ubuntu", but it is not that easy
[14:22] <needhelp> guys, i gotthis msg appear : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gdm2setup/gdm2setup/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[14:22] <needhelp> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:22] <pecisk> rzx237: also you can install buiquty
[14:22] <pecisk> and install with it
[14:22] <needhelp> any idea?
[14:22] <pecisk> rzx237: http://www.google.lv/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FUbiquity&ei=sc2LS_eBBYnK-QaA45XkDQ&usg=AFQjCNG2pQuztbXyxQVAWgexOglOuzWS_A&sig2=5OyjdT3KkHRTWKBoWROPNw
[14:23] <rzx237> pecisk: ubiquity just failed, I have try 4 or 5 times
[14:23] <pecisk> needhelp: possibly it doesn't have explict lucid repo, change to karmic and try again
[14:23] <pecisk> needhelp: sometimes depencies are ok for lucid too
[14:23] <needhelp> ouh ok
[14:29] <needhelp> done but i cant choose the downloaded gdm file to change
[14:29] <needhelp> erm ..
[14:30] <pecisk> just launch app
[14:30] <pecisk> what happens then?
[14:30] <needhelp> ok, got 5 tabs
[14:30] <needhelp> one of them is Theme
[14:30] <needhelp> but i cant do anything
[14:31] <needhelp> appear TBD: This will contain the saved themes dialog
[14:31] <needhelp> any idea/
[14:31] <needhelp> ?
[14:34] <robin0800> needhelp: use the install button
[14:34] <needhelp> install button?
[14:34] <robin0800> needhelp: on the theme tab
[14:35] <needhelp> on the theme tab its blurred
[14:35] <needhelp> no option at all
[14:35] <needhelp> just appear text TBD: This will contain the saved themes dialog
[14:35] <robin0800> needhelp: your system is faulty then
[14:35] <needhelp> thats all
[14:35] <needhelp> erm
[14:35] <needhelp> is there a prob as im using lucid now, but the ppa using kamic
[14:36] <robin0800> needhelp: what's the ppa for?
[14:36] <needhelp> to download gdm2setup
[14:36] <needhelp> ppa.launchpad
[14:37] <robin0800> needhelp: whats gdm2setup?
[14:37] <needhelp> i need to change to default login screen
[14:37] <pecisk> robin0800: advanced gdm configuration tool for post 2.26 gdm
[14:38] <pecisk> old one was nuked when config for gdm changed drastrically
[14:38] <Pici> I could be wrong, but I thought that the new gdm didn't support any of the old themes.
[14:38] <pecisk> well, that's news for me :)
[14:39] <Pici> Like I said, I could be wrong, I haven't tried to change it myself.
[14:39] <needhelp> oo ok
[14:39] <robin0800> needhelp: probably won't work in lucid different system
[14:40] <needhelp> ouh ok
[14:40] <needhelp> thnx buddy
[14:41] <robin0800> needhelp: You can change the splash screens but they disappear so quickly it dosn't seem worth it
[14:42] <needhelp> whut do u mean disappear so quickly?
[14:43] <robin0800> needhelp: lucid boots realy fast so no time to display
[14:43] <needhelp> oh ok
[14:44] <needhelp> for login screen?
[14:44] <robin0800> needhelp: stays longer on shutting down?
[14:44] <needhelp> the default login theme kinda ugly for me
[14:44] <robin0800> needhelp: set it to auto logon
[14:45] <needhelp> herm
[14:45] <needhelp> but yet still required to log the pass
[14:45] <robin0800> needhelp: no
[14:45] <needhelp> ?
[14:45] <pecisk> needhelp: you can set to autologin and it will skip gdm
[14:46] <needhelp> i understand
[14:46] <needhelp> but still want to login using the password and i want the change the default login themes
[14:46] <needhelp> thats all
[14:46] <needhelp> if possible
[14:47] <robin0800> needhelp: set a bios password if worried about security
[14:47] <needhelp> erm
[14:47] <needhelp> ok
[14:48] <datacrusher> hello everyone
[14:48] <pecisk> needhelp: also ask gdm2setup devs to build for lucid
[14:49] <pecisk> datacrusher: hi
[14:49] <aquafina> hi. trying to upgrade my laptop ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 alpha. i dont have much data on it, so just testing it out.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:49] <robin0800> needhelp: your choice is use it or bypass it you can't at present change it
[14:49] <aquafina> will apt-get dist-upgrade do the trick after changing the sources?
[14:49] <needhelp> ok
[14:49] <datacrusher> will there be any changes on the firewire support?
[14:50] <Pici> aquafina: If you're upgrading via the cli, you should be using do-release-upgrade -d, and not changing the sources directly.
[14:50] <aquafina> Pici: i tried that .. update-manager -d, but got a bunch of errors
[14:51] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Had to disable splash on this laptop to get it to boot to the logon screen is this the same as the server bug?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> nope aquafina update manager and the command Pici gave you are entirely different
[14:51] <aquafina> BluesKaj: oh. let me check it out then
[14:51] <BluesKaj> robin0800, sorry i dunno
[14:52] <BluesKaj> aquafina, in the terminal do-release-upgrade -d
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> !find midentify
[14:53] <needhelp> thnx guys
[14:53] <needhelp> gtg now
[14:54] <BluesKaj> robin0800, I'm running a splash without any probs on grub and login on this desktop without any probs , so i can't say what your issue could be
[14:55] <BluesKaj> oops , repeating myself myself again :)
[14:56] <BluesKaj> robin0800, did you edit the grub splash or the login ?
[14:56] <robin0800> BluesKaj: the server bug is that splash dosn't turnoff and thats what i've got I think
[14:57] <aquafina> maybe i will be better off downloading an iso and doing a clean install :)
[14:58] <robin0800> BluesKaj: no Will download a new daily and try again
[14:58] <BluesKaj> robin0800, this is the tutorial I used to add a splash image to my grub menu http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-change-grub2-grub-pc-splash-image.html
[14:59] <robin0800> BluesKaj: yea ive done that and its good but lucid boots so quick you hardly see them
[15:01] <BluesKaj> robin0800, that depends on the time out setting you have in default grub , you can delay it more if you wish
[15:01] <BluesKaj> the boot time that is
[15:03] <robin0800> BluesKaj: I took quiet and splash out to see if I could find what was wrong and of course it booted ok
[15:04] <arand> python-gdm2setup is "meant" to be able to do that (from gdm2setup PPA)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok, but you'll need to re-add it if you want a grub splash later, robin0800
[15:04] <arand> eh ↑ ignore
[15:06] <robin0800> BluesKaj: this is what I used sudo plymouth-set-default-theme ubuntu-logo --rebuild-initrd
[15:07] <BluesKaj> robin0800, you may be amongst the majority tho, most ppl just want grub to boot as quickly as possible
[15:09] <robin0800> BluesKaj: I'm just amazed how easy it is to change it
[15:09] <pasjr> Hello, dose anyone know if any of the AT&T usb Air cards work with Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:10] <robin0800> BluesKaj: this is usefull too plymouth-set-default-theme --list
[15:10] <BluesKaj> for the login splash ?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> I just set it in system settings
[15:11] <kjeldahl> I'm getting blank windows with thunderbird, suspect some xmlrunner problems. Anybody seen anything similar?
[15:12] <robin0800> yes the first one does the work with the name , you get the names using that secomnd command
[15:12] <BluesKaj> robin0800, I've DL'sd a number of splash themes to choose from tho
[15:13] <robin0800> BluesKaj: plymouth-set-default-theme --list does that see them?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:14] <robin0800> BluesKaj: well you only need sudo plymouth-set-default-theme ubuntu-logo --rebuild-initrd to apply it
[15:14] <pasjr> how do you change the plymouth themes?  I know how to see them but how to change?
[15:15] <robin0800> pasjr: use sudo plymouth-set-default-theme ubuntu-logo --rebuild-initrd change ubuntu-logo to the name you want
[15:16] <pasjr> all are showing up as root@PASJR-TOSHIBA:~# plymouth-set-default-theme --rebuild-intird
[15:16] <pasjr> /lib/plymouth/themes/--rebuild-intird/--rebuild-intird.plymouth does not exist
[15:17] <pasjr> root@PASJR-TOSHIBA:~# plymouth-set-default-theme --ubuntu-logo --rebuild-intird
[15:17] <pasjr> You can only specify one theme at a time
[15:18] <robin0800> pasjr: thats why its called set default theme
[15:18] <pasjr> o ok
[15:19] <robin0800> pasjr: there is no -- before the name
[15:31] <pasjr> why when I have auto login do I still need to enter password for key ring?  Can I make keyring auto as well?
[15:32] <kklimonda_> pasjr: you can probably set an empty password but it doesn't make sense - keyring is there to protect passwords from third party
[15:33] <pasjr> It just seems a waste of time to set auto login to still have to enter password for keyring
[15:34] <kklimonda_> it can't be done other way
[15:35] <kklimonda_> well, other than setting no password for keyring which isn't safe
[15:35] <pasjr> ok
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> the battery icon is now also part of the indicator applet
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> on mouseover there's not report of how much %
[15:38] <kklimonda_> Ian_Corne: I think it's already reported
[15:38] <Ian_Corne> ok
[15:49] <EternalPain> hi zusammen
[15:51] <EternalPain> weiss jemand einen unkompliziuerten weg auf einer ubuntu live cd (auf usb stick) das netzwerk zu installieren (ohne vorhandenen internet) ?
[15:52] <Pici> !de | EternalPain
[15:52] <EternalPain> ok thx ;)
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> :)
[16:15] <DebianUT> Anyone has installed tracker in 10.04 alpha 3?
[16:20] <hype> hi there
[16:20] <hype> what's the best way to test gnome-shell? is it actually usable, did anyone uses regularly over here?
[16:22] <tgpraveen12> hype:install it from repos or ppa.
[16:22] <tgpraveen12> it is usable indeed.
[16:22] <hype> hehe, just checking launchpad :)
[16:22] <tgpraveen12> i have tried it from time to time
[16:25] <hype> tgpraveen12 what about the one in Lucid? just noticed it's available by default
[16:26] <hype> i guess it's not the latest but not sure for an alpha...
[16:27] <tgpraveen12> !info gnome-shell
[16:27] <tgpraveen12> hmm yeah it is old
[16:27] <tgpraveen12> 2.29 is latest
[16:27] <hype> looks nice actually
[16:28] <hype> would have seen this as an addon for "scale" compiz plugin but hey
[16:51] <Sensiva> Hello, I am runing Lucid amd64 in a vbox appliance, adding vbox shared folders in fstab makes boot process stop even in recovery mode, should I report this as a bug?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> Sensiva, why fstab ,whynot network in dolphin
[16:54] <Sensiva> hmm, I am not really sure what is dolphin you are referring to
[16:54] <Sensiva> BluesKaj I used to do it this way with Karmic, with no problems
[16:54] <BluesKaj> dolphin file manager in lucid
[16:55] <dfgas> are there any issues with i3 processor and graphics on the processor?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> well, i don't use file sharing in fstab , only drives which contain the files
[16:56] <Pici> dfgas: graphics on the processor?
[16:56] <Sensiva> BluesKaj I meant shared vbox folders, not samba shared folders
[16:56] <dfgas> yah some of the i3 processors have intel 4500hd on the i3 proccessor
[16:56] <dfgas> my laptop has that
[16:57] <dfgas> and it sounds like its booting but never makes it into X
[16:58] <dfgas> i have tried the aplpha3 of 10.4 and also have tried 9.10
[16:58] <dfgas> same results on both
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Sensiva, i don't use samba , just smbclient , but anyway i tried using fstab to share folders as well on karmic and i wasn't able to make it work, so i settled for ssh and sftp
[17:04] <BluesKaj> dunno if that works on VBox tho
[17:04] <Sensiva> BluesKaj Do you know what are vbox shared folders are?
[17:05] <wirechief> dfgas what boot cheats did you try
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Sensiva, shared folders in vbox , share in windows or linux, or both
[17:07]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[17:09] <dfgas> on 9.10 i used safe graphics and that made my screen all messed up
[17:09] <dfgas> lines in it, green color and thats it
[17:10] <dfgas> otherwise on 10.4 i didn't see that option
[17:10] <wirechief> dfgas use f6 and select nomodset noapic (to start)
[17:10] <wirechief> thats on the grub boot screen
[17:10] <dfgas> k
[17:11] <wirechief> i have issues and have to use nomodset otherwise i never make it to the desktop
[17:12] <wirechief> also needed to disable ipv6
[17:17] <BluesKaj> wirechief, why are ppl still disabling ipv6 ... a lot of browsersand sites require it to be enabled for proper rendering , or so i've been informed
[17:18] <BUGabundo_remote> BluesKaj: long lasting bug
[17:18] <BUGabundo_remote> bad network hw
[17:18] <BUGabundo_remote> bad ISPs
[17:18] <wirechief> not everyone needs to, mine gives me dmesg errors with duplicat ivp6 appdress
[17:18] <BUGabundo_remote> etc
[17:19] <BluesKaj> I don't find any probs ,disabling ipv6 didn't seem to change anything browsing-wise IMO
[17:19] <wirechief> BluesKaj its a bug thats been with ubuntu for a very long time, been reported, denied , fixed i just disabled it and things work fine.
[17:20] <BUGabundo_remote> wirechief not *very* long. it appeared in 9.10 kernel
[17:20] <BUGabundo_remote> or 9.04
[17:20] <BUGabundo_remote> not sure
[17:20] <BluesKaj> I'm using chromium so maybe that's the reason
[17:20] <wirechief> i googled it and the rants were long on it.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> check the dates of those rants ..probly over 2yrs old
[17:21] <wirechief> but the ubuntu geek gave a way to disable it and it worked so i dont have that issue. kanotix doesnt use it and keeps it under blacklist.
[17:22] <wirechief> some but they went on for years.
[17:22] <wirechief> it works on my emachine, not sure i need it for my 5 other computers though.
[17:23] <wirechief> also it might have something to do with the wireless adapter i am using as i dont remember seeing dmesg complain about it before.
[17:26] <dfgas> wirechief, almost same result, got farther into boot to not get anywhere but a black screen, before it would just say ubuntu and thats it, this time a got a bar at the bottem going across
[17:27] <wirechief> hmm dfgas while sitting with a black screen did you attempt to get a terminal ? with ctrl alt f2
[17:28] <dfgas> nothing works
[17:28] <wirechief> ok
[17:28] <dfgas> except my wireless button, the light will turn off and on
[17:29] <wirechief> does it hang with a black screen ? how are you rebooting ?
[17:30] <dfgas> i hit the power button and it after a few seconds ejected my disc
[17:30] <dfgas> but still black screen and hitting anything on the keyboard still would not eject the disc
[17:31] <dfgas> sorry not reboot the computer
[17:31] <wirechief> also i am not sure how much help this would be but if you edit the grub boot line and add debug to it you might see where it is hanging, i think debug -a
[17:31] <dfgas> k
[17:31] <wirechief> it might reveal what is hanging
[17:32] <wirechief> i use RSEIUB  to keep from mucking up the filesystem but since 2.6.30 that might not matter.
[17:33] <wirechief> also you need to remove the quiet splash to see debug stuff.
[17:33] <dfgas> ahh
[17:33] <dfgas> k
[17:35] <dfgas> buffer io error on sr0
[17:37] <dfgas> then it does a bunch of booting and back to the same error
[17:38] <dfgas> is that dvd writer?
[17:38] <dfgas> is that dvd writer??
[17:38] <dfgas> ughggh
[17:38] <dfgas> sorru on repeat wrong button
[17:38] <dfgas> is that disc error?
[17:40] <dfgas> now its doing more stuff
[17:41] <wirechief> usually its the last line of the boot messages that helps
[17:42] <wirechief> dfgas did you do a media check on this disk ? did it pass ?
[17:42] <dfgas> i did not check it
[17:42] <dfgas> i am making a flash drive disk
[17:43] <wirechief> dfgas well thats something you should do before we get too far with this. also did you check the md5sum of the .iso you downloaded ?
[17:43] <dfgas> i just downloaded a new iso
[17:44] <wirechief> md5sum ?
[17:44] <dfgas> have not yet
[17:46] <dfgas> how do i check that in 7
[17:46] <wirechief> md5sum name_of_iso.iso or with the media in place do md5sum /dev/cdrom
[17:47] <cjohnston> Has anyone created a USB startup disk on lucid? I can't get it to work.. Says failed to install boot loaded.. I have used the same USB drive many times before with no problems.
[17:47] <wirechief> cjohnston yes
[17:47] <wirechief> yesterday.
[17:48] <cjohnston> I wonder what I'm doing wrong then
[17:48] <wirechief> did you check the .iso your burning for integrity with md5sum ?
[17:49] <cjohnston> wirechief: yes.. I have tried 3 different isos too.. a 9.10 386, 64 and a lucid
[17:49] <wirechief> not sure we call it burning now with usb sticks.
[17:49] <cjohnston> ehh
[17:49] <cjohnston> it works
[17:49] <cjohnston> lol
[17:49] <wirechief> all were ok but still fail to boot when you use the disk creator program in lucid /
[17:49] <wirechief> ?
[17:50] <dfgas> wirechief, k i did not get those errors on the flash drive
[17:50] <dfgas> it seems like it tries to goto into X
[17:50] <wirechief> try a terminal ?
[17:50] <dfgas> however now it is black
[17:50] <dfgas> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't do anything
[17:51] <wirechief> you used the boot cheats too ?
[17:51] <dfgas> hit enter a few times and it flashed some blocks and stuff and back to black screen
[17:51] <dfgas> i edited the grub line for noapic nomodeset and debug -a
[17:51] <wirechief> dfgas did you recently add a graphics card to your computer ?
[17:52] <dfgas> and deleted out the quiet splash
[17:52] <BluesKaj> dfgas, I tried the usb login as well with a new karmic-live -usb , and I had to install the graphics driver before I got a proper login ..dunno if that could be your problem
[17:52] <wirechief> BluesKaj: hes not getting a terminal
[17:52] <dfgas> its a brand new laptop with the i3 processor in it with the intel 4500HD on the i3 processor
[17:53] <BluesKaj> bummer :)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> :(
[17:53] <dfgas> this is my issue, i was thinking maybe its the new way the graphics are that is the problem
[17:53] <wirechief> i do too
[17:53] <BluesKaj> new way ?
[17:53] <wirechief> maybe a vesa boot cheat is needed
[17:54] <dfgas> what is that command?
[17:54] <wirechief> i want to say 791 (what i used on my laptop)
[17:54] <wirechief> dfgas i dont know off hand, maybe google it or someone else here might know.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> dfgas, did you try any othe ttys like f2 -f6?
[17:55] <Pici> !fb
[17:55] <BluesKaj> other
[17:56] <wirechief> dfgas there ya go, thanks Pici
[17:58] <dfgas> BluesKaj, yes i did
[18:00] <dfgas> vga=791 gives me dots onthe screen
[18:01] <wirechief> well that 16bit you can do 792 too
[18:01] <dfgas> how do i force it not to boot into X
[18:01] <wirechief> add 3 to the end of the boot line
[18:01] <dfgas> going to try something
[18:02] <wirechief> then you cant do services stop gdm and then do X configure
[18:02] <wirechief> can not cant
[18:02] <dfgas> :D
[18:03] <wirechief> fingers go too fast sometimes ;)
[18:03] <dfgas> wtf, i looks like it tried to go into X
[18:03] <wirechief> can you login now ?
[18:05] <dfgas> no it was same black screen like it was trying to go in X
[18:05] <wirechief> with 3 on the end , hmm
[18:05] <wirechief> all the cheats plus the 3 at the end...
[18:06] <dfgas> hmmm
[18:06] <dfgas> this was different
[18:06] <dfgas> wtf
[18:06] <dfgas> just happened
[18:06] <wirechief> i havent tried the last with lucid but it should work.
[18:06] <dfgas> i took off the nomodeset and debug -a
[18:07] <wirechief> no, use them.
[18:07] <dfgas> however i left the noapic and put 3 at the end
[18:07] <dfgas> it did go into X
[18:07] <wirechief> without nomodeset you might well have a black screen
[18:07] <dfgas> and now i can see everything
[18:07] <dfgas> lol
[18:07] <dfgas> i am in gnome even though i put 3 on the end
[18:07] <wirechief> haha
[18:07] <dfgas> and now gnome works
[18:08] <wirechief> not what i was expecting
[18:08] <wirechief> so what cheats did you use ?
[18:08] <dfgas> i tried the noapic on the disc i made but now it works on the sd card
[18:08] <dfgas> just noapic and i deleted the quiet splash
[18:08] <wirechief> and that worked ?
[18:08] <dfgas> yah
[18:08] <dfgas> weird
[18:08] <wirechief> along with 3
[18:09] <dfgas> yah
[18:09] <wirechief> without 3 does it go to x ?
[18:09] <dfgas> == noapic 3
[18:09] <dfgas> will reboot quick and find out
[18:09] <wirechief> maybe you found a undocumented cheat hahaha
[18:10] <dfgas> lol
[18:11] <wirechief> well noapic will definently give black screens on some computers
[18:11] <wirechief> they will hang and only powerdown or RSEIUB will recover.
[18:11] <dfgas> back in gnome without 3
[18:11] <wirechief> ok you need the noapic cheat
[18:12] <wirechief> have fun you need to add that after your done installing.
[18:13] <dfgas> this time i just did a standard boot with no cheats and i am in X
[18:13] <dfgas> but can't see gnome
[18:13] <dfgas> can see cursor though
[18:14] <wirechief> well i would keep the noapic then.
[18:14] <dfgas> wait there is the desktop
[18:14] <dfgas> lol
[18:14] <wirechief> it does strange things.
[18:14] <dfgas> yah
[18:14] <dfgas> i had to goto console and then back to f7 and it worked
[18:14] <wirechief> no cheats just the usb stick, well guess your media had a bad burn
[18:14] <dfgas> lol
[18:15] <dfgas> well i know 9.10 didn't work either
[18:15] <wirechief> but you used the same disk
[18:15] <dfgas> and that was used to install on friends computer
[18:16] <dfgas> so 9.10 and 10.4 disc didn't work
[18:16] <dfgas> but sdcard did, lol
[18:16] <wirechief> do a media check on that disk, either with the boot selection or with md5sum /dev/cdrom because something is not working with it.
[18:16] <dfgas> now when it boots up in casper it is saving my settings right?
[18:16] <wirechief> i dont think so. your live
[18:17] <wirechief> only if you made a area for that when you made the stick.
[18:17] <wirechief> and i have found that is not good as i move the stick around to different computers. and it gets confused on the settings.
[18:18] <wirechief> well now, test 10.3 and see how it drives.
[18:27] <bjsnider> !find ext2_fs.h
[18:41] <Andre_Gondim> how can I install sun-java6-plugin, There is no candidate in repo..
[18:42] <void^> Andre_Gondim: java.sun.com
[18:43] <Andre_Gondim> isn't in universe ?
[18:46] <void^> might appear in the partner repo
[18:46] <void^> package maintainers believe we don't need sun java anymore.
[18:50] <yofel> Andre_Gondim: I sill use it, you can get it from my ppa if you want
[18:51] <Andre_Gondim> yofel, hmmm, wich
[18:51] <yofel> Andre_Gondim: https://edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/off-ppa
[18:52] <Andre_Gondim> I will try yofel , many thanks ;)
[19:45] <duffydack> freaky, I was just about to ask if having openjre in ubuntu-restricted-extras was permanent,,,
[19:48] <duffydack> nice...http://n00bsonubuntu.com/content/ubuntu-1004-will-support-iphone-and-ipod-touch
[19:50] <kklimonda> duffydack: if you are asking why doesn't ubuntu-restricted-extras depend on java from sun then the answer is that it has been removed from ubuntu repositories (and added to the canonical -partner repository)
[19:50] <duffydack> kklimonda, ok
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, i say that post about iphone as well - very promising (although i don't use apple).  Can someone else confirm that plugging an iphone into Lucid works so well?  I'd love to know.
[20:08] <duffydack> holy cow, i switched from suns java which was using 170mb memory for an app..(according to gnome system monitor) to openjdk and its using 230mb..
[20:26] <cjohnston> why are the ubuntu and the kubuntu alpha iso's named the exact same thing?
[20:30] <guntbert> cjohnston: you can rename one on your side :-)
[20:31] <cjohnston> guntbert: I know... just doesnt make sense for them to be the same
[20:33] <guntbert> cjohnston: I didn't criticize you :-)  -- no idea how it was in the past - was one called ubuntu... and the other kubuntu... ?
[20:34] <cjohnston> releases are specified.. alpha's, afaik have always been the same... but im trying to download one of each.. which is making it confusing for me
[20:34] <guntbert> cjohnston: use two folders ?
[20:35] <cjohnston> stop making sense.. :-P
[20:35] <guntbert> cjohnston: ok - I shut up :)
[20:36] <cjohnston> I'm downloading by torrent.. so that makes is a little harder ... heh
[20:36] <cjohnston> oh well
[20:55] <jcole> is there a way to get gnome remote desktop (vino) to enable the java viewer? i can do it in tightvncviewer and x11vnc viewer... perhaps there is a vino+x11vnc trick/hack to get java viewer in vino?
[20:56] <jcole> most windows and mac users dont have vncviewer install, but they usually have java installed
[21:48] <Konstigt> hmm, anyone know why evolution 2.29 isn't in lucid? evolution is the default mailer in ubuntu + one of the more used programs (i guess) but it feels like it always lags behind on maintenance/upgrades.
[21:56] <xav3s> hi. how do I upagrade to 10.04?
[21:56] <BUGabundo> xav3s: from what version?
[21:56] <BUGabundo> usually $ update-manager -d
[21:56] <BUGabundo> would do that for you
[21:57] <xav3s> will i need to add a new repository?
[21:58] <BUGabundo> NO
[21:58] <BUGabundo> UM does all that for you
[21:58] <BUGabundo> please make sure you have backups of your data, in case something goes wrong
[21:59] <xav3s> thanks
[22:10] <brinstar> can someone please let me know why the wubi install doesnt work? is this a known bug?
[22:10] <brinstar> i mean with alpha 3
[22:10] <brinstar> 64bit
[22:10] <brinstar> lucid
[22:10] <brinstar> lynx
[22:11] <brinstar> guess
[22:11] <brinstar> not
[22:11] <brinstar> :)
[22:11] <brinstar> no one else tried it
[22:11] <brinstar> ?
[22:12] <brinstar> out of 243 ppl, not one person tried wubi on alpha 3
[22:13] <BUGabundo> brinstar: AFAIH its not suported yet
[22:14] <brinstar> BUGabundo: thanks
[22:14] <brinstar> i guessed as much, just wanted someone to confirm that
[22:14] <BUGabundo> I WON'T confirm it
[22:14] <BUGabundo> but another person came here with similar probs
[22:14] <brinstar> you just did :P
[22:14] <BUGabundo> so I assume its not ready *yet*
[22:14] <brinstar> j/k
[22:15] <brinstar> yeah
[22:15] <BUGabundo> I don't have windows to test
[22:15] <brinstar> i read alpha 2 didnt have it at all
[22:15] <brinstar> so i thought i would hold on till alpha 3
[22:15] <brinstar> assuming it would 'just work'
[22:16] <brinstar> its downloading karmic instead
[22:16] <brinstar> when the install runs
[22:17] <brinstar> is the beta out this month?
[22:17] <brinstar> final should be done by may, i think i will just wait...
[22:17] <brinstar> its only 2 mnths
[23:17] <brobostigon> impressive, gnome-shell working on/in lucid, and it didnt day before yesterday, eeepc 900 ssd
[23:18] <brobostigon> gnome-shell from http://ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu
[23:49] <repete> !see anmar
[23:50] <rww> repete: ubottu doesn't have a seen command.
[23:50] <repete> rww, thx