| * jussi01 prods persia | 06:19 | |
| persia | So, you're showing me old devices. What do you want in a device? | 06:19 |
|---|---|---|
| jussi01 | 3g. HW keyboard. arm. decent screen | 06:20 |
| jussi01 | pocketable | 06:20 |
| persia | I think the Netwalker is the best current choice. | 06:20 |
| persia | The thing I was carrying in Dallas. | 06:20 |
| jussi01 | netwalker has 3g? | 06:20 |
| persia | Has USB. Putting the module internal vs. external is just a hack (nice plastic tabs let the case open and close again). | 06:21 |
| jussi01 | inside is important to me - I dont want to carry _another_ peice | 06:21 |
| persia | There's not a lot of space, but there's some. | 06:22 |
| persia | Nothing else runs Ubuntu without complaints. N900 can, but noe if you also want it to be a phone. | 06:22 |
| persia | SmartQ5/n810 can run Karmic, but not lucid or future, and neither has native 3g. | 06:23 |
| persia | Something like the D4 works, but most of the folk I've shown mine complain it's too big, and it suffers from PSB anyway. | 06:23 |
| persia | There's a bunch of stuff that can be hacked to run Jaunty, but Jaunty armel wasn't that polished. | 06:24 |
| persia | And that stuff can't be upgraded. | 06:24 |
| jussi01 | I dont need ubuntu. ;) just linux. | 06:24 |
| persia | The Gigabyte/Algo/Compal stuff works, but has a moderate battery life, needs closed touchscreen drivers, and suffers from PSB. | 06:24 |
| persia | N900, but don't expect support here or compatibility with our repos. | 06:25 |
| persia | And some bits are closed (but included in the default stack) | 06:25 |
| jussi01 | yeah and the rubbish that will be meego :( | 06:26 |
| persia | Well, n900 default stack is debian-based. THe next release might be based on MeeGo, but that's in the future. | 06:27 |
| persia | And I'm not convinced MeeGo is rubbish: some folk I respect have had good things to say about it. | 06:27 |
| persia | although it's certainly a far cry from Ubuntu. | 06:27 |
| * persia has a suspicion that the above summarises why there's no good "mobile" flavour of Ubuntu right now, and the "Netbook" flavours are getting the attention | 06:33 | |
| jussi01 | :/ | 06:37 |
| persia | jussi01: Just get a NetWalker. That helps send the signal that people actually *want* handheld devices that can/do run Ubuntu. | 06:37 |
| persia | Sticking a USB 3G card in a case is a fairly easy mod: just unwrap the plastic from the handheld and the module, stick the module in the case, connect the USB, and put back the case. | 06:38 |
| jussi01 | persia: I havent a load of cash. If I buy something, it has to be right. the netwalker is super, but still has things mising for me. | 06:39 |
| persia | Yeah :/ | 06:39 |
| persia | But nobody is making a good device right now. | 06:40 |
| jussi01 | :( | 06:40 |
| persia | A few years ago, I would have recommended the Sharp SL-C3100 or 3200 without reservations. VGA, 4/6GB HD, 5-8hrs runtime, USB host, can install Debian. | 06:41 |
| persia | Modular 3G through a CF slot. | 06:41 |
| persia | You might be able to pick one up used (they are no longer manufactured). | 06:41 |
| persia | But only 64MB ram, 400MHz proc, and can't run Ubuntu. | 06:41 |
| persia | (Well, you can jam Jaunty on it if you like) | 06:41 |
| maja87_ | hi | 12:47 |
| persia | Hey. | 12:48 |
| maja87_ | i have a question | 12:52 |
| maja87_ | is there any linux op for Samsung Omnia I900? | 12:52 |
| maja87_ | i m no longer want to user WM | 12:53 |
| persia | I don't quite understand. What does "op" mean in this context? What sort of hardware is that? | 12:54 |
| maja87_ | op is operating system | 12:55 |
| maja87_ | :) | 12:55 |
| * persia usually uses "OS" for that | 12:55 | |
| maja87_ | yes but here is a local sleng so sorry | 12:55 |
| maja87_ | :) | 12:55 |
| maja87_ | so the hardware is | 12:55 |
| maja87_ | http://img.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/samsung/samsung-i900-omnia-02.jpg | 12:55 |
| maja87_ | and it runs now Windows Mobile 6.5 | 12:56 |
| maja87_ | but i dont want to use it, i need a linux OS to this phone | 12:56 |
| persia | OK. Do you already know how to access a bootloader and adjust the flash? | 12:56 |
| persia | Also, do you expect it to still work as a phone after the change? | 12:57 |
| maja87_ | maybe | 13:02 |
| maja87_ | :) | 13:02 |
| maja87_ | i tryed google Android before | 13:02 |
| persia | On that hardware? | 13:02 |
| maja87_ | yyes | 13:02 |
| maja87_ | it works very buggy | 13:03 |
| maja87_ | :) | 13:03 |
| maja87_ | if i not useing it with sim, android works well | 13:03 |
| persia | In that case, you probably have some way to get into the hardware. | 13:04 |
| maja87_ | but if i try out with sim, when i enter the pin, and unlock the sim, fatal error, black screen and freeze | 13:04 |
| persia | You'll need a custom kernel for it, as it's not supported by Ubuntu. | 13:04 |
| maja87_ | i think there is an ubuntu mobile os or not? | 13:05 |
| maja87_ | so i need a kernel wich support the omnia hardware cos android kernel have a lot of bug | 13:07 |
| persia | Looks like you can run Jaunty. I'm not sure about Karmic. You won't be able to run lucid. | 13:07 |
| persia | Ubuntu doesn't have a kernel that works on that hardware. | 13:08 |
| maja87_ | :( | 13:08 |
| === dyfet` is now known as dyfet | ||
| fschulte | ping ogra | 17:02 |
| ogra | yes ? | 17:02 |
| fschulte | oh, hi | 17:02 |
| ogra | hey | 17:02 |
| ogra | sorry, i didnt get around to answer your mail yet and i'm about to leave | 17:03 |
| fschulte_ | you mean to go afk? | 17:03 |
| ogra | i'll send you an answer mail tomorrow, promised | 17:03 |
| ogra | yes | 17:03 |
| ogra | i just stood up from the chair the second you pinged :) | 17:04 |
| fschulte_ | great! :) | 17:04 |
| fschulte_ | hehe | 17:04 |
| fschulte_ | cu | 17:04 |
| ogra | ciao | 17:04 |
| === fschulte_ is now known as fschulte | ||
| === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
