| ubottu | GeekSquid called the ops in #ubuntu (rinah Troll or just plain idoit) | 03:40 |
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| rww | DaemonFC is ban-evading in #ubuntu+1. Banned address; c-68-57-223-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net | 09:03 |
| persia | Oops. I sent DaemonFC there after an off-topic question in #ubuntu-devel (following some on-topic discussion) | 09:13 |
| ikonia | rww: looking now | 09:42 |
| elky | daemonfc wouldn't be our favourite spammer now, would he? | 09:43 |
| ikonia | looking....... | 09:44 |
| elky | the first name and isp certainly fit the profile | 09:44 |
| ikonia | he's doding the ban in +1 for sure | 09:45 |
| rww | elky: Ryan Farmer? Yes, that's him. | 09:45 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: hi, thanks for joining | 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I know | 09:45 |
| ikonia | you know what ? | 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | you hate my guts | 09:46 |
| ikonia | errr no | 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I also know what happens in 5 seconds | 09:46 |
| ikonia | I was just going to ask you to leave #ubuntu+1 as there is a ban on that channel for you, and see if we can resolve the bans for you | 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | ok, I'm not there now | 09:46 |
| ikonia | thank you | 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | We should maybe discuss the shoot on sight standing order over a spat in 2008? | 09:47 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: if you could give me 60 to just finish reading up | 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | 09:47 |
| ikonia | shoot on sight, I'm not actually sure what you're talking about - but just let me finish reading the notes | 09:48 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: ok, I was just catching up on your bans as there are many there | 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | you're probably reading a lot of duplicates from "Hey, you got banned 6 months ago!" | 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | *whack* | 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | but that's just my guess | 09:49 |
| ikonia | sorry - my phone went | 09:50 |
| ikonia | no, there are not lots of duplicates, there are a couple of issues, and a set of instances of you trying to get around the bans | 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | not true | 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | if the ban expires and I re-enter a room under the same name, that's not an evasion | 09:51 |
| ikonia | yes - true, I've got the details in front of me, but I'm not debating that, I'd like to, if possible resolve your bans in the channels | 09:51 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: a ban doesn't expire - unless it's removed | 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's a ban expiring and an op being a twit | 09:51 |
| ikonia | no - it's not. If a ban had been removed I would not say "you where ban evading" | 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | I also don't have to let anyone know it's me | 09:52 |
| ikonia | I wouldn't be talking to you about it | 09:52 |
| ikonia | I didn't say you did | 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | if I was trying to evade a ban, you woudn't be talking with me because you wouldn't know | 09:52 |
| ikonia | I guess the first question is, do you want to resolve these issues and start re-joining/using the channels freely | 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | sure why not? | 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | Where's the paperwork? | 09:53 |
| ikonia | ok, so that's a good start | 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | who do I make an appeal to (again)? | 09:53 |
| ikonia | there is quite a history of bans on you for various behaviour under various nicknames (again part of tring to get around the bans) | 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know what other nicknames you're referring to | 09:54 |
| ikonia | if you could explain what that behaviour was all about, and show a little intention of not repeating it, that would be great | 09:54 |
| ikonia | DaemonDEB, DaemonMDV, DaemonXP, AlmightyCthulu | 09:54 |
| ikonia | ring any bells ? | 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | well, the first three are obviously me | 09:55 |
| ikonia | ok - so if you re-read and re-apply the question then please. | 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's been years, how would I know | 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | some people obviously have long memories about trivial things | 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | I am not so blessed | 09:56 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: it's not been years, and you where a persistant issue inthe channel as you where a week or so ago in #ubuntu-offtopic, so I'll ask again, what's with the persistant distruption to the channel behaviour ? | 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | I think that time someone brought up mono and the assorted Microsoft patents that are held on it | 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | and I advised that I wouldn't use it | 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | and got banned | 09:58 |
| ikonia | no, you used rude language towards people | 09:58 |
| ikonia | actually - in all honesty, with your history, I feel this is a waste of time | 09:59 |
| ikonia | I'm not going to pursue it fther | 09:59 |
| ikonia | apologies for miss-leading you, but I can't see a point in going through this again when you're clearly still playing innocent to your behaviour/ | 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | your call again | 10:00 |
| ikonia | no problem | 10:00 |
| ikonia | apologies | 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | it obviously doesn't help that I didn't try to be dishonest | 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | someone else will definitely remember that next time | 10:00 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: ok, I note your comment | 10:01 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops DaemonFC attempted to resolve multiple bans, got lies/time wasting innocense back. Pointless to continue, not genuine | 10:04 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 10:04 |
| ikonia | rww: good eyes, thank you | 10:04 |
| rww | he just rejoined #ubuntu+1 | 10:04 |
| ikonia | helps if I spell his name right in a ban | 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | ikonia | 10:22 |
| ikonia | yes ? | 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | If I agreed to bite my tongue, could there be a way of potentially clearing those bans? | 10:22 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: not at the moment, I don't want to discuss this any more at the moment. I tried earlier and just got the same old story back, so I don't want to do that pointless trip again at this time | 10:23 |
| ikonia | (just being honest) | 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | if you think it's pointless, great. I'm telling you I don't remember the whole range of crap in detail over why those are in place. | 10:24 |
| ikonia | if you come back at another time, and try being a bit more honest with your responses, I'm sure it will get sorted | 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | You have logs and it's not fresh in my memory | 10:24 |
| ikonia | I appreciate that | 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | so you probably do know more about it than I remember | 10:24 |
| ikonia | again, I appreciate that, but you know exactly what you did in #ubuntu-offtopic, and you know what you where doing with all the spamming, and trolling in the past | 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | spamming? | 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | for WHAT!? | 10:25 |
| ikonia | your blog/link | 10:25 |
| ikonia | http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com | 10:25 |
| ikonia | (or a blog/link) that you found ammusing | 10:25 |
| ikonia | I assume it's yours with the name | 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | wait a second, where was I selling anything or making revenue or whatever? | 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I call spam | 10:26 |
| ikonia | ok "advertising" your link | 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | thank you | 10:26 |
| ikonia | you're not banned in #ubuntu, so you're free to use that channel | 10:27 |
| ikonia | see how you get on in ther | 10:27 |
| ikonia | there | 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | make me sound like I'm selling black market Russian Viagra or something | 10:27 |
| ikonia | no, I didn't | 10:27 |
| ikonia | again - this is the pointlessness I don't want to go around again | 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | one question though | 10:28 |
| ikonia | ok | 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | Why is it futile to talk to any ops due to all bans being indefinite and pointless to contest? | 10:28 |
| ikonia | it's not | 10:28 |
| ikonia | if you're just straight about stuff, %99.9 of the time things can get resolved easy | 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | Shouldn't they be like 1 month, 6 month, etc and give the person incentive to improve? (ok thats 2) | 10:29 |
| ikonia | no | 10:30 |
| ikonia | it can be as short as 10 minutes if the issue is resolved | 10:30 |
| ikonia | there is no set time policy | 10:30 |
| ikonia | as I said, most things are normally resolved easy, however it's persitant issues, and just not being straight when trying to resolve the issues | 10:30 |
| ikonia | that's what drags things out | 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | so if a person can't remember an off the cuff remark than they're screwed? | 10:30 |
| ikonia | not at all | 10:30 |
| ikonia | most of the time that can be worked through, and I'm not asking you to remember the remakrs, more your overall behaviour | 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm an asshole | 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | there | 10:31 |
| ikonia | your attempts to get around bans, your attitude, your language, your topics to try to set of an issue | 10:31 |
| ikonia | ok - so in your words, why should we let someone who is an "asshole" back into the channels to cause distruption to other users who are not "assholes" ? | 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | because anyone can be an asshole situationally and choose not to keep it in check? | 10:32 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: ok, perfect response, however on the past you have chosen not to | 10:33 |
| ikonia | so what's changed ? | 10:33 |
| ikonia | DaemonFC: ok - shall we try to work out a deal | 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | ok, well, most systems don't indefinetely punish people for things they have done or keep punishing on the assumption that in the future they may do something | 10:34 |
| ikonia | well, you've not changed so far, hence why I'm trying to work something out with you | 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, go ahead | 10:34 |
| ikonia | you're not banned in #ubuntu, see how you get on with that, if you can control yourself for a month in #ubuntu, I'll remove the ban in #ubuntu+1, then we can set a plan for #ubuntu-offtopic ? | 10:36 |
| ikonia | I'll put a note in the logs, so it's not just me who can deal with it | 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | alright | 10:36 |
| ikonia | seem a reasonable way forward ? | 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | yes | 10:37 |
| ikonia | perfect | 10:37 |
| ikonia | I'll put a note in the logs now for #ubuntu+1 | 10:37 |
| ikonia | any problems/queries please ask as it's better to ask than make a bad reaction | 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah. and this way it's not like nobody else can look and say "I didn't see any note on that" | 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | good | 10:38 |
| ikonia | I've just updated the notes now | 10:38 |
| ikonia | so we can review it a month from now | 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be back | 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | 10:39 |
| myrtti | buzzbuzz | 10:54 |
| jussi01 | gulp | 10:57 |
| Tm_T | ? | 10:57 |
| persia | It's all about frogs. | 10:59 |
| Tm_T | I'm actually glad I have no idea what you're talking about (: | 11:00 |
| myrtti | the side effects of my chronic pain meds are a bit disturbing, I feel hyperactive all the time and on the other hand I'm really tired because I've slept so poorly due to feeling hyperactive the couple past nights. So if I seem weird, feel free to slap me | 11:00 |
| * Tm_T huggles myrtti | 11:01 | |
| jussi01 | myrtti: you are weird to start with, so if you start acting normal then? :P :D | 11:01 |
| jussi01 | (hugs really, that must suck) | 11:01 |
| myrtti | oh but the pain is gone, I guess that's good? | 11:01 |
| myrtti | this lack of concentration really is annoying | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | myrtti: yeah, one of the reasons I'm trying to stay away from meds | 11:07 |
| * jussi01 waves to rww, heya! did you need a hand with something? | 12:11 | |
| rww | oops, forgot I was still in here, thanks :) | 12:12 |
| Tm_T | bazhang: hi, how can we help you? | 12:20 |
| * Tm_T hides | 12:20 | |
| bazhang | heh | 12:25 |
| ikonia | don't be so rude | 12:41 |
| * Tm_T huggles ikonia | 12:43 | |
| ikonia | hugging is also rude | 12:58 |
| ikonia | apprantly everything that goes on in this channel is rude | 12:58 |
| persia | Indeed. That's why we're banished here. | 12:58 |
| * myrtti grabs tim_______ in pm | 13:12 | |
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| Myrtti | *sigh* | 13:25 |
| * Pici sighs at LimCore | 13:26 | |
| ikonia | really ? | 13:26 |
| ikonia | I thought I'd got him going in the right track | 13:26 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* tim_______ doesn't acknowledge my pm and I'm not too keen on putting the issue on table at #ubuntu-uk | 13:32 |
| popey | the issue? | 13:32 |
| Myrtti | didn't get help in #ubuntu, so | 13:33 |
| Myrtti | [15:09] < tim_______> oooo fuck you all self son of a bitches | 13:33 |
| Myrtti | [15:09] ~~~tim_______ [~tim@89.241.0.157] has left #ubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] | 13:33 |
| popey | lovely | 13:33 |
| Myrtti | I don't want to ban or banforward, it wouldn't result in anything | 13:33 |
| Myrtti | I just wanted to poke in pm to tell him that that language is uncalled for and not needed. but *shrug* | 13:34 |
| elky | Myrtti, does this mean daughters of such are exempt? | 13:34 |
| * genii makes a very large pot of coffee | 14:52 | |
| Trek | is ubottu lagging today? | 15:13 |
| Pici | !ping | 15:13 |
| ubottu | Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. | 15:13 |
| Pici | Doesn't look like it. | 15:13 |
| Trek | okay, because its not responding to the message I sent it so I don't spam the public channels... | 15:14 |
| Trek | ah, there's the issue... my bad (misspelled :P) | 15:14 |
| Pici | Trek: What did you send it? | 15:14 |
| Pici | okay :) | 15:14 |
| Trek | !info <package name> | 15:14 |
| ubottu | 'name>' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner | 15:14 |
| Trek | lol forgot ubottu is in here | 15:14 |
| Tm_T | umm, Konqueror is still the default web browser in Kubuntu? | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | that would be better asked in #kubuntu | 15:34 |
| * charlie-tca doesn't know the answer, either | 15:35 | |
| Tm_T | ...aww, I thought I was in k-d :p | 15:36 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 16:00 |
| Pici | Just a reminder to clear out stale bans, there are about ~340 bans in #ubuntu currently, and ~220 in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 16:02 |
| Pici | I'm about to clean out about 30 old floodbot bans | 16:03 |
| Pici | Yay, that looks better: http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/ircbans.html | 16:15 |
| Tm_T | Pici: wut? | 16:17 |
| Pici | Tm_T: I like graphs | 16:17 |
| Tm_T | Pici: I like too, nice (: | 16:18 |
| knome | when do we get stats for other channels | 16:22 |
| Pici | knome: such as? | 16:22 |
| knome | #xubuntu | 16:23 |
| Myrtti | knome: 34 bans. whee. | 16:23 |
| knome | Myrtti, i want a day-to-day graph | 16:23 |
| knome | ;) | 16:23 |
| Myrtti | oh god, what old bans | 16:24 |
| knome | yeah | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | proportional to the amount of users? | 16:24 |
| Pici | I just added #kubuntu and #xubuntu to that graph, it'll start graphing within the next 10 minutes. | 16:24 |
| Pici | #xubuntu is included on the population graphs I've been running though: http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccount2.html | 16:25 |
| Myrtti | I'm in no condition to prune the bans further though | 16:28 |
| Daviey | hmm, can farnborough be argued to be towards Exeter? | 16:28 |
| * Daviey checks | 16:28 | |
| Myrtti | the bus/lorry strike just made my blood pressure jump soaring high | 16:29 |
| Daviey | err, wrong window | 16:29 |
| knome | Myrtti, fsst. :) they started it? | 16:29 |
| Myrtti | tomorrow at 1800 | 16:29 |
| knome | aaaaaaah | 16:29 |
| knome | i'll get back from london then | 16:29 |
| knome | :) | 16:29 |
| Myrtti | I've got flights on Wednesday and the question is does the plane have petrol to fly to UK | 16:30 |
| knome | yeah | 16:30 |
| Myrtti | who are you flying with? | 16:30 |
| Myrtti | ryanair? | 16:30 |
| knome | flight operated by blue1 | 16:31 |
| Myrtti | ahok. | 16:31 |
| knome | how so? :) | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | I'm going to Cambridge and it's easier to fly from Tampere to there by Ryanair | 16:36 |
| knome | yeah | 16:37 |
| Myrtti | I'm in a state of panic though | 16:39 |
| knome | good luck. | 16:40 |
| Myrtti | great, lag. | 16:43 |
| knome | :D | 16:43 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, Allmighty said: ubottu then why is gameserver not working too? | 16:47 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, WizardOfOz said: !question is there a software like Ghostsurf to unblock filtered websites ?? | 17:15 |
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| ubottu | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu (carmentina) | 18:17 |
| ubottu | solid_liquid called the ops in #ubuntu (carmentina) | 18:18 |
| Tm_T | KB1JWQ: it's all yours, I'm bit busy elsewhere (; | 18:19 |
| KB1JWQ | Tm_T: Heh, I'm not named explicitly in the ACL, I have to use staff powers to do it. :-p | 18:20 |
| Tm_T | ooh, right | 18:21 |
| KB1JWQ | Not opposed to doing it, but I have to wait for it to be... blatant. | 18:21 |
| Tm_T | yeah | 18:21 |
| Myrtti | it's useless trying to ban | 19:03 |
| Myrtti | I'd end up doing a ban so wide it would catch half of Spain | 19:04 |
| Pici | topyli: Would I be overreacting if I sent a banforward for enthdegree to -ops for his weird clone behavior? | 19:05 |
| topyli | Pici, i haven't been watching, but he could use a general brushup on behavior in general, that's for sure | 19:07 |
| Pici | Anyway, I told him to cut it out and that he is responsible for anyone connecting with his account. | 19:31 |
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