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bonez2046	trism: thanks a bunch!	00:00
Loren_Semple	sburwood:	00:01
airtonix	how do i find out what dbus path ubuntu maps the laptop lid to (i assume it will be different for different makes and models of latops), currently on my machine the laptop lid button maps to the dbus path of : /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input_4	00:01
Loren_Semple	Elrox: ?	00:01
sensae	how do I temporarily kill X without it autorestarting?	00:01
Wubuntu	I have a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 420 video card that gives me screen resolution problems with Ubuntu 9.10. Can anyone please off me any assistance with this problem?	00:01
brjann	sensae: you should be able to use sudo gdm stop	00:02
garhol	wubuntu: i'm on the 440mx. what problems you having?	00:02
Wubuntu	even with the proprietary driver,...i have to change screen resolution each time i reboot	00:02
sensae	brjann: Nope	00:02
Elrox	Loren_Semple, yes?	00:03
brjann	sensae: oh, damn, my fault. i meant sudo service gdm stop	00:03
Loren_Semple	Elrox: I just got back, wondering if that problem got solved where Ubuntu fails to load (see the splash, but after splash computer stops loading screen goes blank and can't do ctrl alt f1) ??	00:03
garhol	Wubuntu: I had this problem before. I fixed it by running the proprietary app with gksudo and then saving the settings. it's a permissions thing if i remember	00:03
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Elrox	Loren_Semple, all i have found is to try sudo update-grub	00:05
Wubuntu	how do i get this proprietary app?	00:05
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scivi	wubuntu use synapic package manager to install nvidia-settings	00:05
shannonbrimer	that was odd	00:06
Wubuntu	i already have the nvidia-settings manager	00:06
Wubuntu	this card doesn't seem to save the resolution to Xorg	00:06
scivi	k run it in root mode	00:06
garhol	Wubuntu: once you are using the proprietoty driver then nvidia-settings should be available	00:06
iceroot	Wubuntu: that is not part of the card	00:06
garhol	Wubuntu: that's correct. that's where it was going wrong with me	00:06
iceroot	Wubuntu: also, on karmic there is not xorg.conf	00:07
Wubuntu	X11?	00:07
garhol	Wubuntu: xorg got removed in 9.10 so there was a bit of a workaround to get nvidia-settings to create the corret file	00:07
lantizia	Hey how do I swap between NTSC/PAL for TV Out? (no theres no proprietary drivers)	00:08
garhol	Wubuntu: like iceroot said :)	00:08
DBeets	what replaced xorg.conf?	00:08
JrodDCx	lantizia: let me guess a ATI card ?	00:08
lantizia	It detects my TV and I see it in System \| Preferences \| Display	00:08
lantizia	JrodDCx, no Intel	00:08
lantizia	It even sends output to my TV and the Fn+CRT/LCD button works	00:09
lantizia	But it's sending NTSC instead of PAL	00:09
brjann	Wubuntu: I don't know if this is your problem, but another user was having similar issues the other day. someone in #gnome told him to mv ~/.configure/monitors.xml ~/.configure/monitors.xml.bak and restart gnome	00:09
bitfox	hi	00:10
garhol	Wubuntu: create a blank xorg.conf then the settings can be written in there by the nvidia app.	00:10
garhol	Wubuntu: there isn't one as default but when there is one it gets read (if i am reading back correctly)	00:10
lantizia	Is there meant to be a built in option for configuring TV Out?	00:10
Loren_Semple	Elrox: fixed	00:11
Loren_Semple	for some reason	00:11
eXe__^	hwllo..	00:11
cyberbluntz	hi	00:11
Elrox	Loren_Semple, ??? what did it?	00:11
brjann	!hi	00:11
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	00:11
Elrox	Loren_Semple, please share?	00:11
Loren_Semple	I did the recovery mode (option 2 boot from grub)	00:11
Loren_Semple	then it came to a menu which offered to update grub, fix broken packages, free up disk space	00:12
eXe__^	can anyone help me install ubuntu? plz.. im a fast learner	00:12
eXe__^	its textmode	00:12
Loren_Semple	fixing broken packages and updating grub seemed to fix it	00:12
eXe__^	no fuXXng liveshit	00:12
cyberbluntz	hey you guys want to talk about conficker?	00:12
jcrump40	Enter text here...anyone here have issues accepting user license when installing world of warcraft?	00:13
faileas	hmm. if karmic has upstart, why dosen't it have an init dir, and scripts there?	00:13
bitfox	@garhol: i had a similar problem last week... but xorg.conf file cannot be write by local user... You must be root in order to do that operation	00:13
bitfox	@garhol: sudo nvidia-settings	00:14
bitfox	@garhol: ok?	00:14
cyberbluntz	jcrump40, your going to have to check the technical support at www.worldofwarcraft.com	00:14
Wubuntu	Karmic 9.10 doesn't use "xorg",...or doesn't have a xorg.config file after installation?	00:14
bitfox	I have a little problem with notifications icon in karmic	00:15
Typos_King	Wubuntu: no but you can give it one	00:15
jcrump40	thanks for the information	00:15
Wubuntu	how do i create a black xorg file?	00:15
Wubuntu	*how do i create a BLANK xorg.conf?	00:16
bitfox	@Wubuntu: save an old copy of xorg.conf file	00:16
garhol	Bitfox: yup Wubuntu: sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf	00:16
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sensae	ikonia: You still around? I got my RAID rebuilt, did that pastebin of my mdadm.conf look fine? Do I just need to add 1 to the device lines?	00:16
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iceroot	Wubuntu: sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf	00:17
bitfox	@Wubuntu: I created a backup copy of my xorg.conf file	00:17
Typos_King	Wubuntu: yes, a blank one, and then you can add stuff	00:17
zondo	test	00:18
brjann	!hi \| zondo	00:18
ubottu	zondo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	00:18
zondo	brjann: ty	00:18
JrodDCx	brjann: you love making the bot talk huh ? hahah its fun!	00:19
bitfox	@Wubuntu: After, I launched my nvidia-settings through sudo, after I selected various options I saved and the nvidia tool create all stuff in xorg.conf	00:19
compuman	!host	00:19
bitfox	@Wubuntu: ok?	00:19
brjann	JrodDCx: no sense in repeating myself, that's what it's for :)	00:20
Random832	is there a list of all the things ubottu knows?	00:20
Elrox	Loren_Semple, i found that updating grub does fix the issue, but does not explain how it got foobar'd in the first place... that would be great info	00:20
brjann	Random832: yes, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi	00:20
Flynsarmy	Is it possible to see what's inside a .tar.gz file from the terminal window?	00:20
cyberbluntz	I thought the term was fubar	00:20
brjann	Flynsarmy: yes, try tar lf <filename>	00:21
cyberbluntz	effed up beyond all recognition	00:21
garhol	bitfox: sorry, missed that message. yeah, sudo nvidia-settings once the blank xorg is there and it should drop in the correct info	00:22
Flynsarmy	brjann, tar: Semantics of -l option will change in the future releases. Please use --one-file-system option instead. You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options	00:22
cyberbluntz	umm no	00:22
iceroot	!gksudo	00:22
ubottu	If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	00:22
cyberbluntz	gksudo *	00:22
eXe__^	whats the first 5 steps to install ubuntu in textmode?	00:22
Wubuntu	does it make a difference whether you open the nvidia settings manager through terminal(sud) or opening the program through system, etc?	00:22
bitfox	why does notifications pop-up appear under the right corner under the watch with any blank space?	00:22
eXe__^	help me out here.. im a quick learner	00:22
brjann	Flynsarmy: oh my. one second :)	00:22
iceroot	eXe__^: ?	00:23
getenv	n	00:23
iceroot	eXe__^: look at the display?	00:23
Craig_Dem	eXe__^: Google will have lots of guides.	00:23
brjann	Flynsarmy: oops, sorry, typo. tar tf <filename>	00:23
getenv	chat	00:24
bloom	hi	00:24
Flynsarmy	brjann, perfect, thanks :)	00:24
cyberbluntz	hi	00:24
brjann	Flynsarmy: you're welcome :)	00:24
bitfox	@Wubuntu: sudo allow you to launch nvidia panel with root privileges so the xorg.conf file can be easily modified	00:25
adamf	hey, everyone. been a while since i last used ubuntu. i'm thinking about putting it on my old laptop (hp pavillion with an ati video card), dual booted with windows 7. is this pretty easy to do?	00:25
arf`	here the problem: with xubuntu hardy on a dell laptop with fglrx driver and 2.6.32 kernel, the monitor's power saving doesn't work anymore after a while	00:25
cyberbluntz	I dont think there is supposed to be a difference between running the gksudo at the terminal or running the xserver?	00:25
brjann	bitfox, Wubuntu: if you're launching a graphical program, you should really use gksu	00:26
garhol	Wubuntu: as bitfox says. i don't rightly remember how i got mine to stay there but I think I used gksudo the first time.	00:26
GeekSquid	cyberbluntz: there is ... read the psychocats link I gave you	00:26
bitfox	@Wubuntu: I tried to launch it as normal user from system panel-> admin... but nvidia-setting was not able to save configuration in xorg.conf	00:26
Satoru-san	You can just use CFLAGS="-march=native"	00:26
Satoru-san	oops wrong channel	00:27
Wubuntu	sudo nvidia-settings-manager?	00:27
JrodDCx	Wubuntu: Yes	00:28
bitfox	@Wubuntu: I use: $sudo nvidia-settings	00:29
bitfox	@Wubuntu: It works for me	00:29
sensae	Doing an fdisk /dev/sdb shows one partition, ext4. But /dev/sdb1 doesn't exist.	00:29
bitfox	@Wubuntu: I'm able to select options and save them in xorg.conf file	00:29
Typos_King	cyberbluntz: wha?	00:30
danny_	does anyone know with the sort command what option would I use if I'm looking to sort processes by max to min usage?	00:30
JrodDCx	sensae: I would trying useing Gparted so you can see ewveything better !	00:30
parolang	Question...does Ubuntu have easy support for nouveau driver for video?	00:30
walidx	hello	00:30
walidx	possible to ssh over an http proxy using proxychains or would i need to use a socks proxy?	00:30
bitfox	@Wubuntu: I'm sorry.. but i must be off now... bye bye	00:31
JrodDCx	parolang: Not in 9.10 it's coming in the next edtion , i owuld use the real driver anyway :)	00:31
Wubuntu	thankyou,...this time the save worked	00:31
bitfox	bye	00:31
JrodDCx	bye...	00:31
Wubuntu	bye bitfox,...and thanks again	00:31
Typos_King	danny_ ..... sort processes..... you mean from a text dump?	00:31
parolang	JrodDCx: I'm having problems with the proprietary driver on Debian stable.	00:31
Wubuntu	thanks to all of you for your help	00:32
Typos_King	danny_ if you're just looking for a quickie.... try maybe 'qps' is a visual process manager, and you can sort by clicking on the provided colunmn tab	00:32
sensae	Looks like the superblock for the partition is gone - how do I repair the superblock without losing the partition?	00:32
JrodDCx	parolang: 9.10 is a bit diffrent then debian stable i think	00:32
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JrodDCx	they fixed and broke some things	00:32
garhol	Wubuntu: congrats :)	00:32
parolang	JrodDCx: Okay...I'm burning the CD now, so hoping for the best :)	00:33
Guest14343	hi, i have a question, I have a intel integrated video card and i'm trying to fix the driver, but there is no xorg.conf!! where is it? or how can i generate one?	00:33
garhol	Guest14343: xorg.conf is no longet there in 9.10. create a blank one with sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf	00:34
Maletor	How could I set up Ubuntu as a SIP server (for VOIP phones)?	00:34
JrodDCx	parolang: Good luck , if worst comes to worst you can install newer drivers too :) (From nvidia)	00:34
bitsmart	hi folks I am trying to get MPD set up, and when I go to create the db I get this error: listen: Failed to listen on localhost (line 69): Address already in use. is this a conflict in /etc/hosts or something?	00:34
danny_	well I'm creating a shell script that needs to display the top processes by sorting them from max to min usage...	00:35
mimi1	ciao	00:35
bitfox	@Wubuntu: You're welcome!	00:35
arf`	here the problem: with xubuntu hardy on a dell laptop with fglrx driver and 2.6.32 kernel, the monitor's power saving doesn't work anymore after a while, and I can't find any reason. After booting, it works for a time (if I stop using the computer for 10mn, themonitor goes to sleep), and at a moment it doesn't work anymore (even if I force the screensaver, no more sleeping). I can't find anything in any log relating to power saving, nor find what could make	00:35
bitfox	bye bye	00:35
mimi1	!list	00:35
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	00:35
Guest14343	garhol: and can I add only a the lines with the stuff i want to get configured, or does it have a full configuration file?	00:35
NewWorld	arf`: Is it only the monitor switching off or suspend aswell?	00:36
garhol	Guest14343: try sudo Xorg -configure that should make an initial config for you I think.	00:36
Jeangleur	i need help with my webcam and gspca	00:36
Guest14343	ok thanks	00:36
Maletor	How could I set up Ubuntu as a SIP server (for VOIP phones)?	00:36
mylisto2	I'm curious to know if there is a good flash authoring tool for Ubuntu?	00:37
arf`	NewWorld: suspend (I didn't try to switch off as it is a laptop)	00:37
GeekSquid	mylisto2: nope... Adobe has the monopoly	00:37
JrodDCx	true	00:37
archboxman	http://imagebin.org/86912 conky awesome :)	00:37
mylisto2	really?	00:37
NewWorld	arf`: Suspend aswell? YOu didn't answer the question properly :P	00:38
bitsmart	hi folks I am trying to get MPD set up, and when I go to create the db I get this error: listen: Failed to listen on localhost (line 69): Address already in use. is this a conflict in /etc/hosts or something?	00:38
Jeangleur	everytime I use my webcam (skype, cheese), it wouldn't work properly and the message is "libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: unknown huffman code: 0000ffff"	00:38
Jeangleur	what can I do?	00:38
arf`	I tried to relaunch the screensaver, as well as the xfce-power-manager	00:38
danny_	ps -eo user,pid,ppid,%mem,fname \| sort ?? \| head -5	00:38
arf`	NewWorld: suspend aswell?	00:39
mylisto2	jeangleur: did it ever work?	00:39
NewWorld	arf`: Can you answer my question directly and in a valid format? lol	00:39
arf`	NewWorld: I understood "as well", don't know aswell :/	00:39
NewWorld	arf`: We are syntactically inflexible xD	00:39
Jeangleur	mylisto2: not on this ubuntu, but yes, I remember like four month ago, it worked	00:39
arthur_1	anyone know how to brows the files on a HTC Hero? here is my dmesg \| tail http://pastebin.com/amk01TPT and i followed this page.. http://www.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/help/synchronization	00:40
arf`	NewWorld: seems to, but I'm syntactically a french… so	00:40
Jeangleur	mylisto2: didn't use it for long, upgraded,... and now that I need it...	00:40
mylisto2	I remember I had to do some work around on 8.04 to get it to work	00:40
arthur_1	i cant seem to just plug in the hero and brows the files on the sd card...?	00:40
Jeangleur	mylisto2: maybe I should go back to 8.04?	00:40
arthur_1	uname	00:40
Jeangleur	is this possible?	00:40
mylisto2	maybe?	00:41
NewWorld	arf`: I had that with Ubuntu aswell in GNOME... sometimes the screen switched off sometimes it wouldn't at all... it was really annoying. I switched to KDE sometime later, it uses PowerDevil... and everything worked fine	00:41
arthur_1	Linux hp-desktop 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux	00:41
Jeangleur	mylisto2: I just caonnot compile the gspca with its ptch needed... always error "error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory"	00:42
Jeangleur	mylisto2: are you good in this stuff? I am not	00:42
brjann	arf`: if you would prefer, the #ubuntu-fr channel is the official ubuntu support channel in French :) (or #ubuntu-qc if you are Quebecois)	00:42
Jeangleur	mylisto2: but I am sitting since eight hours (no kidding) to try to get it done	00:43
arf`	NewWorld: ok, so aswell is a manager? anyway, I've nothing related to aswell on my computer	00:43
dexley	hi yall	00:43
Jeangleur	mylisto2: here is the kgspca.err file output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/385916/	00:43
GeekSquid	arthur_1: in order to do that you will need to install the Android Dev version for the hero... or install openssh on the hero and connect remotely ... android development environment for linux works as a VM but using the hero as a mass storage device is not possible	00:43
mylisto2	jengleur: I am not good at this stuff as well, sorry	00:43
NewWorld	arf`: No lol, that was my mistake. You're right it should be 'as well' instead.	00:44
arf`	brjann: yeah, I'm on too, but there a far less competence than here actually, especially at this time (night for us)	00:44
arf`	NewWorld: uh, ok, let's have fun ;)	00:44
brjann	arf`: no problem, just wanted to make sure you were aware :)	00:44
dexley	i am in trouble ppl. no video is workin for me! even vlc , image is only in One third of the screen and no color! help! i am lost! :)	00:45
dexley	the rest of the screen is black!	00:45
hipitihop	if I have a machine which allows ssh access, but my router also port forwards some voip related ports, namely 5060 and 10000-20000 then I want to secure this machine a litlle more.. is it possible to restrict ssh to my internal network ? or is that not enough from a security pov	00:45
NewWorld	dexley: Have you used Mplayer or xine engines?	00:45
dexley	yes NewWorld	00:45
dexley	:(	00:45
mylisto2	jengleur: just stay in this channel, I'm sure someone can help you	00:46
brjann	hipitihop: if your router doesn't forward your ssh port, ssh isn't accessible from outside your LAN	00:46
NewWorld	dexley: Try to play an ogg video file, they are natively supported. See if it works; that will give us some useful info to work on.	00:46
archboxman	Jeangleur: that may not work in this kernel version when it says floating point fails ... it will not install because it was not meant for this kernel..	00:46
arf`	dexley: it smells like dri problem, but unsure	00:46
shadows090	is anyone familiar with java? I'm trying to run a very simple "hello world" and am getting a weird error	00:46
hipitihop	brjann, indeed.... any other precautions I should take since those ports are technically open ?	00:46
Jeangleur	archboxman: so what can I do?	00:47
NewWorld	shadows090: ubuntu related?	00:47
shadows090	NewWorld yes	00:47
dexley	okay NewWorld i try it in a sec!	00:47
archboxman	Jeangleur: sorry I just woke up... so give the basics of your problem	00:47
NewWorld	shadows090: Put on pastebin, I know a little java lol	00:47
rastasean	hello geniuses. i'm trying to get FTP working in ubuntu. the connection is active, the port is active, but anonymous cannot upload filezilla on windows reports its because permission denied. any assistance?	00:47
danny_	hey Typos_King the one line in my script looks like this....ps -eo user,pid,ppid,%mem,fname \| sort ??? \| head -5	00:47
shadows090	well, i'm in Ubuntu, i'm not sure if the particular error is ubuntu related. what do you mean put on pastebin?	00:47
Jeangleur	archboxman: is there any way I can make my cam work? it should be working in karmic out of the box. it is logitec E2500 quickcam	00:48
Jeangleur	but it somehow doesn't	00:48
NewWorld	shadows090: Post the relevant code and error onto pastebin.com and send the link for that post.	00:48
Jeangleur	archboxman: I tried ubuntu-ive-usb, all the same	00:48
tweiseman	what are the terminal commands to manually connect to internet via ethernet?	00:48
hipitihop	is there a linux security channel ?	00:48
archboxman	Jeangleur: most of the logistic cames need to have the driver compiled...	00:48
NewWorld	rastasean: Is the FTP server on Ubuntu or windows? Are you uploading or downloading from the server?	00:48
danny_	I just don't know how to sort the processes from max to min usage using the sort command...	00:48
Jeangleur	archboxman: what can I do?	00:48
zenwryly	Is there a way to configure karmic to keep building packages for Python 2.5?	00:48
zenwryly	err	00:48
zenwryly	Is there a way to configure karmic to keep building packages for Python 2.4?	00:49
brjann	hipitihop: if your voip application is running, those ports will connect to it. if the voip application isn't running, those ports will appear closed. so you should be fine	00:49
NewWorld	danny_: the command ps can sort by CPU usage	00:49
archboxman	Jeangleur: most of the logistic Camereas need the drive compiled they don't make a debian driver....	00:49
archboxman	sorry Waking up ....	00:50
NewWorld	tweiseman: Google for a tutorial. I'm sure there are plenty.	00:50
shadows090	NewWorld. pastebin is http://pastebin.com/VGq9EzZF	00:50
Jeangleur	archboxman: no problem. I am online since ten hours trying to get it done. will go to bed soon	00:50
brjann	!google > NewWorld	00:50
ubottu	NewWorld, please see my private message	00:50
Jeangleur	archboxman: do you have any idea?	00:50
Jeangleur	archboxman: how can I compile it?	00:50
hipitihop	brjann, thanks.... so really the only thing I should consider is I am also running a wireless network here and booth wired machines and wirless machines are on same network (arguably should have seperate but a bit hard at the moment) , so I should probably restrict which machines are allowed to log into others	00:50
archboxman	Jeangleur: yes you need to try to backport the camera....	00:51
Jeangleur	archboxman: how is that?	00:51
shadows090	NewWorld, the confusion is that i cannot run it when i'm in the directory. only when i'm in another directory.	00:51
* shadows090 is confused		00:51
dexley	NewWorld the sound is workin great but not videos! i can listen sounds correctly	00:51
manas	how to open pidgen?	00:51
archboxman	Jeangleur: hold up... need coffee.. give me the model??	00:51
shadows090	manas: pidgen should be in applications-> internet	00:51
NewWorld	shadows090: That is weird... I don't know why. Sorry.	00:51
Jeangleur	archboxman: Quickcam E2500	00:51
shadows090	NewWorld, not a problem. thanks for taking a few to look into it	00:52
manas	shadows: i dont find it there	00:52
archboxman	Jeangleur: run this command first lsusb does it see the camera!!	00:52
Jeangleur	archboxman: id 046d:089d	00:52
brjann	hipitihop: you could lock ssh down further if you wanted to. you might take a look at tcpwrappers: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/02/network-security-with-tcpwrappers-hostsallow-and-hostsdeny/	00:52
NewWorld	dexley: Is there anything you changed recently that you think could have affected this?	00:53
shadows090	manas: you could run reinstall via synaptics packet manager under system. i know it sounds like an extra step but it works for me	00:53
Jeangleur	archboxman:hey, I am on this since ten hours (no kidding) of course it does find it	00:53
shadows090	Manas: just uninstall, apply, install, and apply	00:53
Jeangleur	archboxman: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc.	00:53
manas	shadows: uninstall what?	00:53
hipitihop	brjann, thanks very much, will read up	00:53
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Jeangleur	archboxman: ;-)	00:53
archboxman	Jeangleur: slow down I see you..	00:53
brjann	hipitihop: for example, I forward ssh through my router, but I've set up /etc/hosts.allow to only allow connections from my local network and my network at work	00:54
archboxman	Jeangleur: here is a website follow along	00:54
archboxman	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043579	00:54
shadows090	uninstall pidgeon if it's not showing up under the applications menu. do you have it installed already? or no?	00:54
NewWorld	manas: Accessories > Terminal > Type in 'pidgin'	00:54
brjann	hipitihop: you're welcome, good luck :)	00:54
archboxman	Jeangleur: tell me what is different about your attempt to install??	00:54
shadows090	pidgin* oops :-/ lol	00:54
hipitihop	brjann, I see.. is it posisble to do based on MAC	00:54
Typos_King	danny_ -> ps -eo user,pid,ppid,%mem,fname \| sort -k 4; thereabouts	00:55
brjann	hipitihop: hm, I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's based solely on IP addresses/subnets.	00:56
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Jeangleur	archboxman: that when I go trying sudo ./gspca_build, the kgspca.err (the error file) says http://paste.ubuntu.com/385916/	00:56
hipitihop	brjann, ok, thanks I'll readup and go from there. cheers	00:56
archboxman	Jeangleur: did you remove the old gspca module because it will conflict with the module...	00:56
Jeangleur	archboxman: good idea. how do I do it?	00:56
archboxman	Jeangleur: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043579	00:57
* G-Bleezy slaps JustChilN around a bit with a large trout		00:57
NewWorld	Jeangleur: rmmod <module name> is an option	00:57
archboxman	Jeangleur: sudo rmmod gspca	00:57
* JustChilN Pimp Slaps G-Bleezy		00:57
dexley	NewWorld: i dont know :( but: Mplayer cant be opend code:127 \| No video playin with Gnomeplayer and KmPlayer \| Only DragonPlayer actually helps me out and is working good!	00:58
JustChilN	is it normal for the ubuntu install to freeze awhile when getting to the partition part?	00:58
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futurama140	Where does one go to discuss hacking hardware such as usb drives, other input peripherals, random electronics	00:58
ae86-drifter	i am trying to unmount a remote folder, i keep getting umount: device is busy. using fusermount	00:59
NewWorld	dexley: If kaffeine will work fine like DragonPlayer then you know that the xine engine works good. And it must be a problem with the other engines.	00:59
progre55	hi people! I've installed eucaliptus.. but with wrong configs.. how do I remove it and re-install so that it asks to configure it again? a simple remove does not remove the configs..	01:00
dexley	NewWorld: the other engines?	01:00
progre55	I mean, remove by apt*	01:00
shadows090	ae86: fuser -m /dev/sda1 (or whichever the device is) and it should show ou the process keeping it busy	01:00
JustChilN	oops closed the room	01:01
dexley	progre55: how about going in the synaptic and remove it utterly and download the .deb again?	01:01
sensae	I have files in an ext4 partition, but for some reason the partition table is messed up and it won't mount - I need to get the files off this partition, help?	01:02
NewWorld	dexley: The playback engine used by the application. Kaffine, D Player use xine. VLC uses it's own. gmplayer, smplayer, kmplayer use mplayer.	01:02
shadows090	sensae: What error do you get?	01:02
dexley	NewWorld: u rock	01:03
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sensae	shadows090: Device or mount point busy, I believe	01:03
RedXIII	hey I'm having a problem getting ubuntu to install. I burned a copy of the 9.10 dvd and attempted to install it. Went through all the setup screens in text-mode installation and after it automatically restarted all I have is a blinking cursor in the top left corner	01:03
RedXIII	ran the check disc for errors and compared the checksum on the iso file	01:03
NewWorld	dexley: lol I don't think we fixed anything :/	01:03
sensae	shadows090: fdisk shows one linux partition, but in dev it shows up as sdc, sdc1 doesn't exist.	01:03
progre55	dexley: it's on a server.. no graphics available..	01:04
arthur_1	sensae sudo touch /forcefsck	01:04
arthur_1	maybe?	01:04
arthur_1	then reboot	01:04
dexley	NewWorld: lol not yet but i learn sum'in!	01:04
Typos_King	progre55: sudo dpkg --purge PACKAGENAME;	01:04
dexley	and i love learnin lolz	01:04
emergion	Hey all, is there any news on when an official Firefox 3.6 package will be available ? Has anyone used the PPA version and what did people think about it	01:05
NewWorld	sensae: DON'T attempt to fix any filesystem errors before recovering what you can from the volume. I did this and lost a lot of stuff.	01:05
progre55	Typos_King: cool, let me try, thanks man	01:05
NewWorld	dexley: So try kaffeine to see if it plays properly :)	01:05
sensae	NewWorld: What would you suggest? I'm just trying to get it to mount so I can move files off the volume and wipe it completely	01:05
Dr_Willis	emergion: Theres proberly not going to be an official 3.6 - if you want it. Use the ppa - I use the 'stable' ppa	01:05
Typos_King	RedXIII: ... did you say you finished installing it, or isn't showing up grub? or?	01:05
Dr_Willis	emergion: i imagine most people are using the 'stable' ppa. or the 'daily build' ppa	01:06
dexley	NewWorld: kaffeine is askin for demux plugin; im about to give it to him!	01:06
Typos_King	heheh	01:06
AMAG	Hello, you might remember me from famous questions like "how do I make a USB install disk" or "my power supply caught on fire Friday and my computer is all f-ed up!" :D	01:06
RedXIII	Typos_King: I walked away from my computer while it was installing, but I saw it restart itself	01:06
NewWorld	sensae: Mine couldn't mount aswell... there is an application called R-Linux which allowed me to recover all that I could.	01:06
shadows090	sensae: what is the device name you are trying to mount?	01:06
emergion	Dr_Willis, where can I get that from ? Why no official 3.6?	01:06
Typos_King	RedXIII: .so... .you get to a Grub screen?	01:06
RedXIII	I assume it finished installing, now all I have on the screen is a blinking cursor and all inputs are unresponsive	01:06
NitaiPal	i have some questions	01:07
sensae	NewWorld: can I apt-get it?	01:07
Typos_King	RedXIII: reboot then... to see if you get to a Grub screen	01:07
sensae	shadows090: Well, sdc	01:07
RedXIII	Grub screen would be the ubuntu loading screen? Just shows black	01:07
NewWorld	sensae: It runs under Windows heh :/	01:07
LavaEagle	I need to run install.sh, and "sh install.sh" is not working because of a syntax error. I am running Linux Mint Helena	01:07
RedXIII	Hard disk busy light blinks for a little then blinking cursor	01:07
Typos_King	RedXIII: grub meaning, a menu listing choices to boot from	01:08
RedXIII	nothing like that	01:08
FLOYD\|Party	I get a black screen whenever ubuntu starts up. I had installed Nvidia's driver, and i had stopped x using "sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop". Any ideas?	01:08
kassah	who do I talk to about getting my name changed in the ubuntu wiki? (marriage has changed it)	01:08
Typos_King	RedXIII: reboot then... to see if you get to a Grub screen	01:08
NewWorld	LavaEagle: What is the syntax error?	01:08
NitaiPal	i want to switch from the 64 bit architecture to 32 bit one (the latest version of ubuntu that i just downloaded) because 64 bit just isn't worth the trouble and i want my computer to work smoothly without the probs which i can perhaps solve but don't have the time to solve ... thanks for answering my question	01:08
LavaEagle	jahplayer-ubuntu-dapper-x86.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected	01:08
Typos_King	kassah: ubuntu-vicars j/k ^_^	01:08
RedXIII	Typos_King: No Grub screen. Goes from BIOS screen to blinking cursor	01:09
LavaEagle	@NitaiPal: Format, Install Ta da!	01:09
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, but i don't want to lose my files	01:09
mylisto2	where do you add signed gpg keys?	01:09
mylisto2	such as	01:09
NitaiPal	and i don't have ne thing to back up everything	01:09
RedXIII	Harddisk light blinks then cursor comes up	01:09
mylisto2	wget -q http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu/cairo-dock.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add -	01:09
mylisto2	?	01:09
Typos_King	RedXIII: .. then.. hehe... I'd assume the install didn't go through?	01:09
RedXIII	I wasn't prompted for any errors during installation	01:10
RedXIII	disc check ran with no errors and checksum was equal	01:10
Typos_King	RedXIII: but you never saw it end either	01:10
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: Look up Ubuntu One, SkyDrive (By MSN) those places you upload your files to, however the max upload is 2 - 2.5 gigs	01:10
RedXIII	I would have imagined a big red box saying "FAIL" with some sort of error and wait for input	01:10
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, i have like over 50 gigs	01:10
Dr_Willis	emergion: ubuntu dosent do 'rolling updates' updates are just for security issues. Not just new versions. Theres numerous sites that guide on setting up the PPAs for firefox	01:11
cafree	Can someone recommend a software tool for managing raw files ON the camera? gthumb doesn't even see them and with f-spot I can only copy them, not delete them.	01:11
RedXIII	I set up the user account and everything, should I just reinstall?	01:11
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, is there no way to change it without having to worry bout my files .. like how it happens with upgrade	01:11
shadows090	sensae, what is the output of fdisk -l (small L)?	01:11
histo	RedXIII: did it copy all the files and everything?	01:11
Typos_King	RedXIII: the installation almost at the end.. may ask for user input	01:11
LavaEagle	@NitaiPal: Oh yes actually, how big is your harddrive?	01:11
wirechief	RedXIII: anything plugged into usb (shouldnt matter..but)	01:11
danny_	k thanks guys for the help	01:11
Typos_King	RedXIII: sooooo.... we dunno whatever happened after ubiquity finished, if it did	01:11
Pengyduckwin	Is there a way to revert to legacy grub after trying to install grub2? (using old version)	01:12
RedXIII	Nothing in the USBs. Just got PS2 mouse/keyboard, power, and an ethernet	01:12
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RedXIII	and of course monitor	01:12
histo	RedXIII: you can always boot to the installtation cd and take a look at the drive atleast install grub	01:12
BayArea	would anyone be willing to help a newb understand why the Intel PRO1000 card shows up on lspci, but cant connect to the internet?	01:12
Maletor	Radeon HD 5770	01:12
RedXIII	I tried the "rescue this system" option on the disc but I'm not sure what to do	01:12
histo	RedXIII: is it a live cd?	01:12
RedXIII	haven't really worked with linux too indepth except on a dedicated debian server	01:12
Maletor	How do I get my ubuntu box to run an SIP server so that I can use VOIP?	01:12
donvito	hello guys my video webcam is work everywere but not in skype how is it posible	01:12
RedXIII	histo: I assume so, I just downloaded the x86 DVD from the site	01:13
histo	RedXIII: did you install from the GUI in X	01:13
FLOYD\|Party	I've been trying to get ubuntu going all day. I feel like going to the store and giving MicroShit/MicroShaft more money for Win 7 since my RC is out of time. I get a black screen whenever ubuntu starts up. I had installed Nvidia's driver, and i had stopped x using "sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop". Any ideas?	01:13
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, like 120	01:13
histo	RedXIII: okay boot it back up select Try Ubuntu from the menu	01:13
RedXIII	nope, installed from the text-mode installer. I thought it would be faster.	01:13
histo	RedXIII: yea so you downloaded the alternate iso?	01:13
histo	!grub \| RedXIII	01:13
ubottu	RedXIII: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.	01:13
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, actually , 250 to be exact	01:14
histo	RedXIII: I would check the media first then follow those instructons for fixing grub	01:14
shadows090	FLOYD, i would suggest checking the md5sum	01:14
sensae	shadows090: I just took a really really risky move and fixed it. I did an fdisk /dev/sdb and rewrote the partition table, I got it to mount.	01:14
histo	RedXIII: by media I mean do a check of the install disc	01:14
shadows090	sensae: very bold lol. well done	01:14
donvito	hello guys my video webcam is work everywere but not in skype how is it posible	01:14
RedXIII	I already ran a check on the ISO and ran the install disc for defects before installing	01:14
Scarra3	Im trying to setup eclipse so that I can program in java so I installed eclipse and openjdk but when I tryed to compile a program it didn't compile	01:14
RedXIII	I'll try the restore grub thing now I spose.	01:15
histo	RedXIII: then I would try to follow the instructions from ubottu for installing grub	01:15
shadows090	Scarra3: what was the error?	01:15
histo	RedXIII: that or a reinstall and make sure its not hanging. After the files are copied you have ot enter user information etc...	01:15
sensae	shadows090: I believe mdadm recognized it as a raid device and ate it's superblock	01:15
histo	RedXIII: did it prompt you for that?	01:15
RedXIII	it prompted for user information	01:15
shadows090	sensae: well i'm glad you got it figured out. i wouldn't have thought to point you in that direction	01:15
Scarra3	shadow090 no error it just wouln't compile it said it cant find the java compiler	01:16
shadows090	Scarra: are you doing it through the terminal? or are you running through the eclipse IDE?	01:16
histo	RedXIII: and you told it to reboot?	01:16
histo	RedXIII: removed the cd and hit enter?	01:16
RedXIII	It automatically rebooted	01:16
RedXIII	oh.. didn't prompt me to hit enter	01:16
RedXIII	should I assume the install hit an error?	01:16
m0in	hey	01:16
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: 1. Restart your computer with Ubuntu 32bit. 2. Under Administration select partition editor(manager). 3. Create a 50gig partition(or however much you need) 4. Copy the files you want onto that partition. 5. Install Ubuntu 32bit. 6. select the large partition where Ubuntu 64bit was and install there	01:16
Inconis	your are qikly...	01:17
histo	RedXIII: Nah it should tell you to remove the cd and press enter I thought. Did you take the install disk out?	01:17
ARC0112358	Ubuntu noob needs help with SSH	01:17
aKoN-MaN	Hi Guys	01:17
Inconis	yum SHH	01:17
Scarra3	Eclipse IDE Shadow090	01:17
donvito	hello guys my video webcam is work everywere but not in skype how is it posible	01:17
RedXIII	Actually a wierd thing happened to my computer now that I think about it.	01:17
donvito	hello guys my video webcam is work everywere but not in skype how is it posible	01:17
NewWorld	Hi aKoN-MaN	01:17
xangua	ARC0112358: then go to the suport channel	01:17
aKoN-MaN	how do i fix this? 5.0G 5.0G 0 100% /	01:17
AllHail	Hey	01:17
m0in	1 question	01:17
RedXIII	I assume it shut down. I was given a blank screen with nothing on it but the computer light was flashing like it went into sleep mode	01:17
NewWorld	!patience > donvito	01:17
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: after you are done installing grab the files from that partition, then put the live cd in again and delete that partition and join it with your Primary disk, or leave it for backups.	01:17
ubottu	donvito, please see my private message	01:17
m0in	how do you get the original login screen	01:18
m0in	back	01:18
histo	!home \| NitaiPal	01:18
ubottu	NitaiPal: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome	01:18
RedXIII	wouldn't respond to me holding the power button, so I unplugged it. Had to wait 30 seconds before it would turn back on	01:18
shadows090	scarra: do you have java runtime installed?	01:18
histo	NitaiPal: all you ahve to do is put your /home in a seperate partition then you can reinstall / or change distros and all your files will be saved.	01:18
histo	RedXIII: ? sounds like you might be having other issues.	01:18
shadows090	scarra: you can check by typing in "java -v" or "java -version" (one or the other) in the term	01:18
NitaiPal	lemme read all of that one sec	01:18
RedXIII	Yeah. I guess so. Can't imagine what it is though.	01:19
Scarra3	Ok thx shadows090	01:19
Dan_E	how do i get all 3d effects in ubuntu 9.10	01:19
RedXIII	I'll try reinstalling the OS.	01:19
histo	Dan_E: System > Preferences > Appearence	01:19
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: basically what i said	01:19
Dr_Willis	Dan_E: install proper 3d video card drivers and play with the compiz settings tools till your eyes explode	01:19
Dan_E	k	01:19
Dr_Willis	!ccsm \| Dan_E	01:19
ubottu	Dan_E: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz	01:19
ARC0112358	Ubuntu noob needs help with SSH	01:19
Dan_E	ty	01:19
histo	!ask \| ARC0112358	01:20
ubottu	ARC0112358: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	01:20
shadows090	Dan: what ubotto said if you're looking for the 3d cube and stuff	01:20
LavaEagle	How do I run .sh scripts? \| michael@Caesar ~ $ sh jahplayer-ubuntu-dapper-x86.sh	01:20
LavaEagle	jahplayer-ubuntu-dapper-x86.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected	01:20
Dr_Willis	ARC0112358: ask a more specific question	01:20
ActionParsnip	Yo yo yo	01:20
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Pengyduckwin	Is plymouth already in 10.4 alpha?	01:20
Dr_Willis	LavaEagle: try 'bash whatever.sh'	01:20
Dr_Willis	Pengyduckwin: ive herd it is.	01:20
ARC0112358	How do I add keys from SSH server to my client?	01:20
shadows090	LavaEagle: You should be able to make a file, type in the terminal commands and save as *.sh	01:20
histo	Pengyduckwin: yes that is in #ubuntu+1	01:20
ARC0112358	I am struggling hard to be more specific	01:20
histo	ARC0112358: well you can type yes when you connect and they will be saved	01:20
Dr_Willis	ARC0112358: theres books written on SSH and its ussage and key management. :) i rarely do much key menagement. other then use the ssh-copy-id tool	01:21
LavaEagle	shadows090: The terminal said that because I am not on a 32 bit OS that didn't work	01:21
ActionParsnip	Shadows: the file extension doesn't mean much	01:21
m0in	how to do you change your login screen	01:21
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, i only have 20 gig of free space	01:21
histo	ssh > ARC0112358	01:21
dexley	NewWorld: i thank you ! :-) problem solved!	01:21
histo	m0in: System > Admin > Login	01:21
LavaEagle	shadows090: this script only applies to Ubuntu 6.06 x86 32 bit platforms.	01:21
Dr_Willis	LavaEagle: if its a 32bit program.. then you are stuck.	01:21
LavaEagle	that means it's my script right?	01:22
ARC0112358	All I am trying to do is auitomate unison or something and want to avoid passwords	01:22
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, is that enough to install a new version of ubutnutu 32 bit with no problems	01:22
Dr_Willis	LavaEagle: the installer works only on 32bit sustems it seems	01:22
histo	ARC0112358: that page should explain from ubottu	01:22
aKoN-MaN	rootfs 5.0G 5.0G 0 100% /	01:22
aKoN-MaN	how do i fix this?	01:22
Dr_Willis	Many programs have 32 and 64bit versions these days	01:22
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: you can use ia32libs but you will need to manually put 32bit libs in the lib32 folder	01:22
NewWorld	dexley: I don't see how :/ You still can't use the other playback engines :(	01:22
mattgyver	!lucid	01:22
ubottu	Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1	01:22
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: sudo apt-get clean	01:23
Dr_Willis	aKoN-MaN: Delete stuff you dont need. 5gb for / is rather small.	01:23
histo	ARC0112358: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys	01:23
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: uninstall unnecessary kernels too	01:23
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: Yeah that will be fien	01:23
Dr_Willis	aKoN-MaN: 'sudo apt-get autoremove ' may free up some space also	01:23
LavaEagle	as a temp install	01:23
dexley	NewWorld:but for now i can use caffeine to watch my movie! i will try to fixe the other engines next time or re-install them again!	01:23
aKoN-MaN	0 removed lol	01:24
tarehart	hey, I've got a jitter problem with my touchpad	01:24
dexley	Kaffeine*	01:24
arand	aKoN-MaN: also uninstalling old kernels (make sure they're not the one's in use!) might free some space.	01:24
m0in	histo: look at the pm i send you	01:24
tarehart	can anybody help me out?	01:24
ActionParsnip	Akon-man; once you get some free space install bleachbit	01:24
LavaEagle	!help \| tarehart	01:24
ubottu	tarehart: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	01:24
ARC0112358	thanks	01:24
aKoN-MaN	what will that do?	01:24
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: if you can reference a tutorial that would be nice, but I am googling that right now	01:24
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: bleachbit can free space from caches and temp files	01:24
n4cht	can i ask you guys a question?	01:25
* n4cht grins.		01:25
m0in	histo: i am looking for a theme-like customization	01:25
shadows090	lol	01:25
LavaEagle	Hahah	01:25
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: tutorial for what?	01:25
xguru	n4cht: just ask	01:25
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, the main reason i'm doing this is because my cpu Fan is too loud	01:25
LavaEagle	Installing the 32lib	01:25
m0in	histo: or revert it to orig. screen	01:25
histo	m0in: yeah thats in there.	01:25
aKoN-MaN	sweet	01:25
aKoN-MaN	ty	01:25
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: what about the other problems you were experiencing? i was recently on it that very OS and didn't have any trouble	01:26
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, i have a inspiron 530	01:26
n4cht	i'm getting a new cpu fan/heatsink combo that looks like a wicked turbine, once i buy my danger den torture bench.	01:26
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: you will install the app. When it moans about deps you will need to download the 32bit deb, extract it, then place the .so file in /usr/lib32	01:26
histo	m0in: you can get new themes from gnome-look.org as well	01:26
NitaiPal	LavaEagle, youtube works on and off and i have to somestimes switch between browsers and stuff	01:26
garhol	tarehart: what is the problem with jitter?	01:26
m0in	histo: thanks, i will look	01:26
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: uname -a ,will show the running kernel	01:26
Dr_Willis	m0in: for the gdm in 9.10 theres a tool called Epidermis that can install alternative themes for it. Also some tools I got listed at http://delicious.com/dr_willis/gdm2 (i think)	01:26
Red_HamsterX	n4cht, Zalmans are nice, but what's that got to do with Ubuntu?	01:26
newclimb	there is anyway to work with touchscreen in a laptop toshiba running ubuntu	01:27
tarehart	the cursor shakes a few pixels back and forth when my finger is still	01:27
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n4cht	Red_HamsterX: NitaiPal was talking about having a cpu fan that's too loud.	01:27
histo	LavaEagle: NitaiPal they have 64bit flash now if thats what you guys are talking about.	01:27
Dr_Willis	newclimb: ive seen linux laptops with touchscreens befor. But never owned one.	01:27
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: dpkg -l \| grep linux-image ,will list the installed kernels. Remove the ones that AREN'T the one you are running	01:27
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: histo is right	01:27
histo	newclimb: shouldn't matter what type of computer the touchscreen is on	01:27
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ,to remove the modules and fluff	01:28
tarehart	I found a website that suggested that the driver might not be averaging the input like it should	01:28
n4cht	Red_HamsterX: also... i didn't realize this isn't OT... lol. new irssi theme and i forgot to add channel name to statusbar.	01:28
LavaEagle	NitaiPal: but if your cpu is unable to handle the OS definately drop down and you have a far better time.	01:28
histo	LavaEagle: NitaiPal I've run 64bit for a long time everything works in it that I've ever used.	01:28
n4cht	i thought there was an awful lot of unfamiliar nicks. lol	01:28
newclimb	histo: toshiba satelite u505	01:28
ActionParsnip	Akon-man: you can also use deborphan to remove orphaned packages to gain more space	01:28
histo	NitaiPal: What are you trying to do?	01:28
LavaEagle	histo: He is on an Inprion 540	01:28
aKoN-MaN	ok will give will try it out tyvm	01:28
histo	LavaEagle: and what was the question?	01:28
Scunizi	I have a xbox 360 dvd in my drive.. and can't mount it even with sudo mount /dev/dvdrw /media/cdrom0 .. How do I do this?	01:29
histo	newclimb: let me check something	01:29
garhol	tarehart: weird. no movement when your not holding a finger on the pad?	01:29
tarehart	garhol: that's correct	01:29
LavaEagle	histo: He wants to go from 64 bit Karmic to 32bitKarmic and backup 50 gigs with out an external drive	01:29
ActionParsnip	Should have a backup anyway	01:30
histo	NitaiPal: I would create a seperate home partition. Like I explained. Why would you switch from 64bit to 32bit?	01:30
ActionParsnip	No backup == data is disposable	01:30
tarehart	garhol: and it was fine on 8.04 and windows 7	01:30
NitaiPal	histo, im kinda fed up with 64 bit, about havin to do extra and not having everything working right away... n my CPU fan is always whirring ... even tho my system is pretty new and decent ... Dell inspiron 530 ... so im trynna sorta "downgrade" to 32 bit so as to not have to worry about things not working and stuff	01:30
histo	newclimb: should be recognized by usbtouchscreen at the kernel level	01:30
newclimb	histo: how can i do that?	01:31
LavaEagle	I feel dumb i thought that was an intel processor for some reason	01:31
Dr_Willis	Ive cant think of any issues ive had with 64bit on my 3 mahines ive been using it on for the last 2+ yers	01:31
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: check acpi settings etc. 100% works here for 64bit	01:31
claptrap	Dr_Willis: Same.	01:31
Dr_Willis	ive had MUCH more issues with 'brand new just came out' laptops .. :)	01:31
claptrap	Only problem I ever had was 64-bit Flashplayer.	01:31
garhol	tarehart: thinking, the synaptics touchpad stuff was listed in xorg.conf before but that is gone in 9.10 gimme a mo to look about	01:32
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: tried the 64bit native flash?	01:32
histo	NitaiPal: your not really downgrading	01:32
Dr_Willis	linux disrtos seem to take a few months to catch up to the new things in new laptops	01:32
claptrap	ActionParsnip: Yeah, that's the one that gave me problems.	01:32
tarehart	garhol: ok, thanks	01:32
histo	newclimb: let me do some more reading hold up	01:32
garhol	tarehart: out of interest, what make of system is it?	01:32
newclimb	histo: all right thanks	01:32
tarehart	asus	01:33
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: strange works great here. Different systems I guess	01:33
claptrap	ActionParsnip: Well, it works as far as Flash games themselves are concerned. The issues were with a specific site (Kongregate.com)	01:33
histo	newclimb: its a built in touchscreen?	01:33
claptrap	ActionParsnip: It uses a seperate domain server for Chat and website achivements, and for whatever reason, 64 bit flash didn't like to communicate with the java applets.	01:34
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: I play cyclomaniac on there. I use flashblock in chromium daily and block all flash except the game	01:34
histo	newclimb: I see there are fan issues with your laptop in ubuntu	01:34
claptrap	ActionParsnip: Really now.	01:34
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: totally	01:34
histo	newclimb: but i'm not seeing anything regarding a touchscreen on that model	01:34
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: also 64bit java using the file at www.java.com	01:35
NitaiPal	histo, what are the major differences between 64 bit and 32 bit anywyas	01:35
claptrap	ActionParsnip: That's... interesting. :E I tried Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Seamonkey to no avail.	01:35
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: nspluginwrapper sucks for me	01:35
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: I use chromium from the daily build ppa	01:35
histo	!64bit \| NitaiPal	01:35
ubottu	NitaiPal: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.	01:35
NewWorld	NitaiPal: Compatibility. Some things don't work on 64 bit that do on 32 bit. 32bit is more compatible and better supported.	01:35
claptrap	ActionParsnip: D'you think I need 64 bit on both sides for it to work correctly, then?	01:36
Dr_Willis	I can only think of One app thats not on 64bit thats on 32. that i would use. :)	01:36
syn-ack	claptrap: nope	01:36
NitaiPal	so why 64 bit NewWorld ? no reason to right?	01:36
garhol	tarehart: sudo apt-get install gsynaptics then turn down the minspead in there to slow. that should fix it	01:36
claptrap	ActionParsnip: Also, are youh having issues with flickering?	01:36
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: nspluginwrapper should handle it	01:36
Dr_Willis	64bit is faster in a great many tasks. and improveing all the time	01:37
garhol	tarehart: sorry, should be minspeed	01:37
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: not here	01:37
NewWorld	NitaiPal: Some argue it's faster at certain tasks, like the professional kind - video editing, number crunching,etc.	01:37
claptrap	ActionParsnip: You on Karmic?	01:37
ActionParsnip	Claptrap: lucid a3 but was identical in karmic	01:37
Dr_Willis	Given the CPU load just to play back some videos with some codecs.. its getting more and more noticeable	01:37
tarehart	garhol: that worked, thanks!	01:37
NitaiPal	NewWorld, nothing to do with better graphics and such right?	01:37
syn-ack	NewWorld: that's because under the right circumstances is is faster	01:37
devdz	hello im new with linux.. which commands to use to know which computers are interacting with any wireless	01:37
GoSox	i'm using KDE, how can i find out how much RAM a system has installed?	01:37
claptrap	ActionParsnip: Well, my bit of Googling has said it's been fixed in Lucid. I'm not comfortable enough to touch an alpha, though. :<	01:38
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: I'm not even able to install it so it can wine about reps. If I found the source and compiled it?	01:38
ActionParsnip	Devdz: your router will tell you	01:38
garhol	tarehart: splendid :) have fun	01:38
NewWorld	NitaiPal: I'm not sure about that sorry.	01:38
syn-ack	NitaiPal: the main reason you'd want to use 64 bit over 32 imo is because it natively handles more than 4 gigs of ram	01:38
tarehart	and wow, xorg.conf is really minimal these days	01:38
Dr_Willis	tarehart: some of my systems have no xorg.conf	01:38
syn-ack	tarehart: Dbus FTW	01:38
garhol	tarehart: yup, been a few people on tonight with nvidia issues andthe lack of xorg has thrown them a bit	01:39
syn-ack	yeah, my systems don't have configs either	01:39
ActionParsnip	lavaeagle: you will need to force install it. If you have ia32-libs installed it will run	01:39
Dr_Willis	NitaiPal: theres benchmarks on 64 vs 32 - dpending on what you do - you may want 64. I use 64 on all my machines	01:39
administrator_	help	01:39
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: is there not a ppa with a 64bit build?	01:39
NitaiPal	Dr_Willis, i just do simple browsing and watching movies and such ... which is better for me?	01:40
syn-ack	NitaiPal: in your case probably 32 bit	01:40
NewWorld	NitaiPal: I'd say definetly 32bit, don't hassle yourself with 64	01:40
Dr_Willis	NitaiPal: some video codecs these days can really suck down the cpu.	01:40
NitaiPal	Dr_Willis, so 32 bit wud b better for my CPU?	01:40
Dr_Willis	NitaiPal: if you got more then 4 gb ram - GO 64 - if You do video reencoding go 64..	01:40
syn-ack	exactly	01:41
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: No this seems to be 32bit only	01:41
Dr_Willis	If you got a low end cpu/system that can do 64 and watch HD movies.. well it may be a benifit also	01:41
syn-ack	oh yeah	01:41
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: you can use pae in 32bit if you have more than 4gb ram	01:41
syn-ack	ActionParsnip: pae sucks, compared to native handling	01:41
syn-ack	seriously	01:41
devdz	okay what are the main commands to communicate with a router please i mean to know what the router is doing in a moment	01:41
NitaiPal	ActionParsnip, whats pae?	01:41
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: have you checked the ppa seach?	01:41
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: it breaks the ram up to allow the kernel to access more ram	01:42
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: how would I go about doing that? Software/Synaptic ?	01:42
syn-ack	ActionParsnip: Honestly dude, imo its merely an ugly hack	01:42
LavaEagle	manager*	01:42
ActionParsnip	!pae \| nitaipal	01:42
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: it works though	01:42
syn-ack	ActionParsnip: if you have the resources to do native 64 bit addressing it's better to just do that instead of using a hack	01:43
syn-ack	again, imo	01:43
claptrap	This is why I lurk in here.	01:43
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: true but if 32bit is advantageous to the user otherwise then pae is fine	01:43
ActionParsnip	Imho	01:44
syn-ack	yeah	01:44
NitaiPal	is there a command to find out all the specs of my comp	01:44
syn-ack	NitaiPal: cat /proc/cpuinfo	01:44
histo	NitaiPal: lshw	01:44
syn-ack	NitaiPal: lshw, lspci etc	01:44
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: lspci; cat /proc/cpuinfo \| tail -n 20 \| grep model	01:45
ActionParsnip	nitaipal: works for single core :)	01:45
LavaEagle	How do I install ia32-libs on i686?	01:46
histo	LavaEagle: you don't have to	01:46
histo	LavaEagle: and i don't think its availbilbe	01:46
NitaiPal	whats a command that will tell me my harddrive size ram and such	01:46
syn-ack	its not	01:46
rampage73	ok anyone got an eee pc t91mt ? wondering if there is working mt driver and where ?	01:46
histo	NitaiPal: lshw	01:46
rampage73	sorry touch screen	01:46
vox	NitaiPal: sudo lshw \|more	01:46
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: i686 is 32bit	01:46
LavaEagle	My bad	01:47
LavaEagle	wrong numbers	01:47
LavaEagle	But I am 64bir	01:47
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606437	01:47
LavaEagle	bit	01:47
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: what does uname -a say	01:47
skraps	how many people believe corporate espionage takes place?	01:48
LavaEagle	Linux Caesar 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux	01:48
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: your cpu may be 64bit but the OS is 32bit	01:48
LavaEagle	I could have sworn...	01:48
LavaEagle	Grr	01:48
syn-ack	skraps: its not a belief, it DOES happen and two this is not the forum for that discussion	01:48
syn-ack	Linux Neptune 2.6.32-14-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Sat Feb 20 05:18:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux	01:48
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: if it was 64bit it would say x86_64 instead of i686	01:49
syn-ack	thats what it would look like LavaEagle	01:49
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: like syn-ack says	01:49
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: But then why would it not let me install a 32bit app?	01:49
Puffin	da da da	01:49
syn-ack	LavaEagle: because ia32 libs is already installed on your system, LavaEagle	01:49
skraps	Im living in a motel room, I record a lot of phone conversations, I left my recorder out earlier when I left the room. I went to backup the sdcard, my recordings were missing but the file system wasnt damaged. I	01:50
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: what is the output when you try install the app. Use http://pastebin.com	01:50
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: I installed the Main Edition of Linux Mint I just realized.	01:51
adrian26	Hi, somebody know how to install tv cards in ubuntu	01:51
ActionParsnip	!mint \| lavaeagle	01:51
ubottu	lavaeagle: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)	01:51
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: mint isn't supported here	01:51
Dr_Willis	adrian26: for mine.. I just plug it in.. and install/run whtever tool i want to use it	01:51
Puffin	da da da	01:51
Puffin	xx1234 was a short visitor!	01:51
NitaiPal	heres my specs, please tell me which would be better for me 64 bit or 32 bit ... i only do some minimal computer stuff ... watch movies, browsing, youtube ... i want the least hassle free and compatible computer so i can easily do things ... ALSO its important for me to have a quiet cpu fan cuz my one is extra loud on this 64bit system	01:51
Puffin	32 bit is winnar	01:52
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: how much ram is in the system?	01:52
devdz	what shud I install for virtualization under linux ?	01:52
LavaEagle	ActionParsnip: Even though it's Ubuntu based?	01:52
ActionParsnip	!virtual \| devdz	01:52
ubottu	devdz: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications	01:52
NitaiPal	http://pastebin.com/01AK2nrd	01:52
NitaiPal	that's my lshw http://pastebin.com/01AK2nrd	01:52
syn-ack	LavaEagle: just because it's based on ubuntu does NOT make it anymore ubuntu than ubuntu is Debian	01:53
ActionParsnip	Lavaeagle: its not an official canonical release so is not officially supported in the official channel	01:53
Dr_Willis	LavaEagle: just beause its ubuntu 'based' dosent mean we have the manpower tu support it. expecially when the variants got their own support channels	01:53
adrian26	I've a problem, when I open the program I've an error	01:53
LavaEagle	Ahh sorry about that	01:53
adrian26	can't open /dev/video0	01:54
ActionParsnip	lavaeagle: there are tonnes of ubuntu based systems which are equally not supported	01:54
Dr_Willis	Equal Opurtinity Unsupported. :)	01:54
syn-ack	exactly	01:54
rats	LavaEagle: the folka at irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help will be more than delighted to help	01:54
syn-ack	we have enough to worry about supporting what, 5 versions or so already	01:55
LavaEagle	Ty I was just on my way there	01:55
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: lubuntu soon :)	01:55
syn-ack	ugh	01:55
Dr_Willis	We also have #kubuntu #lubuntu , and what else now? #mythbuntu	01:55
syn-ack	you're crappin me right	01:55
syn-ack	xubuntu	01:55
Puffin	da da da	01:55
ActionParsnip	!lubuntu	01:55
ubottu	lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu	01:55
syn-ack	Im there too. :P	01:55
Puffin	We have #urmumubuntu	01:56
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: its gonna be sweet	01:56
wirechief	Dr_Willis: is there a moblin or remix channel ?	01:56
Dr_Willis	wirechief: yea i think there is.	01:56
syn-ack	wirechief: /list the server	01:56
Dr_Willis	theres also the #ubuntuone specilized channel	01:56
syn-ack	there seriously are a ton of #ubuntu channels other than this one	01:56
Puffin	We have #urmumubuntu	01:56
ActionParsnip	You can spawn any channel you like. Just join it	01:56
syn-ack	Obvious Troll is Obvious	01:57
NitaiPal	heres my specs, please tell me which would be better for me 64 bit or 32 bit ... i only do some minimal computer stuff ... watch movies, browsing, youtube ... i want the least hassle free and compatible computer so i can easily do things ... ALSO its important for me to have a quiet cpu fan cuz my one is extra loud on this 64bit system heres my specs and such http://pastebin.com/01AK2nrd	01:57
Puffin	NitaiPal, 32 bit	01:57
Dr_Willis	syn-ack: and not even very enterainging	01:57
Dr_Willis	enteraining :)	01:57
adrian26	Have problems with my tv card	01:57
syn-ack	Dr_Willis: sadly enough. :/	01:57
Dr_Willis	NitaiPal: if you got more then 4 gb ram - go 64 - otherwise if you dont do much. go 32 if you want. I always go 64 and rarely have any issues	01:58
syn-ack	NitaiPal: that's really not a bad system	01:58
Dr_Willis	I dont see how 'fan speed' is going to be related to the 64/32 bits	01:58
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: i'd go 32bit. If all you want is web and chat. 64bit will allow you easier expansion	01:58
syn-ack	NitaiPal: I agree with everything Willis just told you	01:58
syn-ack	and ActionParsnip for that matter	01:58
Dr_Willis	The only 32bit box i got is my Netbook.	01:59
adrian26	Who know how to install tv cards, I've problems with mine	01:59
donvito	why webcam is not working in skype	01:59
donvito	sky linux	01:59
Dr_Willis	!tvtuner	01:59
Dr_Willis	!tv	01:59
ubottu	http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out	01:59
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: look into guides for the dell. There may be guides to control the fan	01:59
kerebrus	How do I find out the network name of my computer?	01:59
ActionParsnip	Kerebrus: hostname	02:00
Dr_Willis	kerebrus: you mean for the samba shares?	02:00
kerebrus	yes for samba shares	02:00
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: I always use amd as coolnquiet is great in the kernel :)	02:00
Dr_Willis	kerebrus: its the hostname. unless you chnge it in the smb.conf	02:00
Dr_Willis	kerebrus: try out the 'findsmb' and 'smbtree' commands	02:00
syn-ack	God I love Pandora	02:01
Dr_Willis	kerebrus: also depending on the network setup you might NOT beable to access the machine via name. it may need ip#'s	02:01
NitaiPal	ActionParsnip, can u explain what u just said ... 64 bit is better for my cpu fan?	02:01
syn-ack	NitaiPal: irrelevant	02:02
ActionParsnip	Nitaipal: the number of bits is moot. You need to find guides relating to your system model to see if anyone has found a way to control the fan speed	02:02
syn-ack	ActionParsnip: it most certainly does.	02:02
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: how so?	02:03
Dr_Willis	If the fan is not spported in teh bios/kernel - then the 64/32 dont matter at all.	02:03
syn-ack	it's more than likely as simple as redirecting something to /proc even	02:03
syn-ack	ActionParsnip: I was referring to fan control	02:03
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: yes but 32bit/64bit doesn't matter which is what I'm getting at	02:03
syn-ack	And I agreed	02:03
syn-ack	:)	02:03
DocWiggles	quick help with the terminal thing, im new to ubuntu	02:03
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: cool :D	02:04
syn-ack	<syn-ack> NitaiPal: irrelevant	02:04
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: sup	02:04
syn-ack	see? :P	02:04
Dr_Willis	!info samba-doc \| kerebrus	02:04
ubottu	kerebrus: samba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.4 (karmic), package size 7813 kB, installed size 16080 kB	02:04
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: gotcha :)	02:04
ActionParsnip	!pm \| docwiggles	02:04
ubottu	docwiggles: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	02:05
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: what's you issue?	02:05
dsnyders	Anybody know how to fix this problem with kpovmodeler? http://imagebin.org/85792	02:05
DocWiggles	the terminal is asking me to locate a specific file and the file is in my desktop	02:05
DocWiggles	what should i type?\	02:05
DocWiggles	i dont know the commands	02:05
tweiseman	hi, i run "rfkill list" on my ubuntu 9.10 machine and it tells me that "Wireless LAN" is "Soft block:no, Hard Block:yes"	02:06
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: $HOME/Desktop is the location then	02:06
tweiseman	how do i remove the hard block?	02:06
DocWiggles	so $HOME/Desktop filename?	02:06
enav	some 1 here know how to get an invitation to java channel?	02:06
DocWiggles	or do i just type $HOME/Desktop	02:06
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles /home/$USER/filename ,then	02:07
syn-ack	enav: /who the channel and ask one of their ops	02:07
Izinucs	If I try to dd a dual layer dvd and it responds with "no medium found" how do I fix this? (dvdrw is a dual layer and dvd is in the drive)	02:07
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: depends if the process wants the folder or the actual file	02:07
DocWiggles	the actual file	02:07
epaduel	Hi all..	02:07
enav	thanks	02:07
epaduel	Anyone here from south america?	02:07
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: then give the filename to	02:07
ActionParsnip	Pt \| epaduel	02:08
tweiseman	hi, i run "rfkill list" on my ubuntu 9.10 machine and it tells me that "Wireless LAN" is "Soft block:no, Hard Block:yes"how do i remove the hard block?	02:08
dsnyders	epaduel, I was close to south america once.	02:08
DocWiggles	so $HOME/Desktop/filename?	02:08
ActionParsnip	!pt	02:08
ubottu	Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	02:08
allen	hi	02:08
ActionParsnip	Docwiggles: indeed	02:08
DocWiggles	aite brb	02:08
rothsdad	hey, how to change the encoding to utf8	02:08
wirechief	tweiseman check man rfkill for details on how to use it.	02:09
allen	i'm new to anything more complicated than ubuntu, now i'm on crunchbang :D wrote my first shell script and now i'm wondering about irc commands	02:09
devdz	any important condition i must know before i patch something ?	02:09
rothsdad	my irc client is pocketirc	02:09
allen	how's that working out for you?	02:10
ActionParsnip	Devdz: if you need the patch then go for it	02:10
ActionParsnip	!patch \| devdz	02:10
ubottu	devdz: Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines.	02:10
Izinucs	rothsdad: that's not one I've heard of .. check out irssi .. lots of docs for that	02:10
allen	!hello \| devdz	02:10
ubottu	devdz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	02:10
allen	:D that's awesome	02:10
arand	devdz: patch how?	02:11
allen	i'm using irssi now	02:11
allen	how can i get a list of all irc commands?	02:11
ActionParsnip	!irc	02:11
ubottu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	02:11
allen	ah	02:11
allen	!irc	02:11
allen	hmm	02:12
allen	!Guidelines	02:12
ubottu	The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines	02:12
trism	allen: if you want to play with the bot you can /msg ubottu !command	02:12
allen	oh cool thanks for the tip :D im an IRC newbie	02:12
syn-ack	Why does it always seem that any irc n00bs first habbit is tickling bots? I mean thats the SAME thing I used to do when I started in IRC	02:13
enav	when you say find a channel operator.. you mean here or some website?	02:13
arand	allen: for irssi-specifics, use /help in server window	02:13
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cyberbluntz	so we are allowed to play with the bot?	02:13
Izinucs	syn-ack: instant gratification of getting a response	02:13
Dr_Willis	!bot \| cyberbluntz	02:13
ubottu	cyberbluntz: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots	02:13
ugliefrog	#wine	02:13
syn-ack	Izinucs: haha, Always wondered about that. :P	02:14
dsnyders	!kpovmodeler	02:14
allen	the bot is superfun and a new concept to me since I don't use the IRC much	02:14
roudad	Hey, some of the keys on my netbook just stopped working (down arrow, c, etc), any idea why and how i can fix it?	02:14
arand	cyberbluntz: play in private if you must.	02:14
Dr_Willis	allen: you can /msg ubottu and chat all you want	02:14
syn-ack	enav: In that channel.	02:14
enav	syn-ack the problem is ##java channel is invite only	02:14
aggro	roudad, likely shorted out keys. spill anything on the keyboard?	02:14
Dr_Willis	!register \| enav	02:15
ubottu	enav: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode	02:15
roudad	aggro, no..	02:15
allen	how do i message a speicifc person? is it must /msg <username here>?	02:15
Dr_Willis	enav: its proberly registered nicks only	02:15
Dr_Willis	allen: yes.	02:15
Izinucs	allen: yes.. but ask first.. some don't like it..	02:15
dsnyders	What channel do I get help on kpovmodeler display issues?	02:15
cyberbluntz	<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command	02:16
aggro	roudad, are all apps affected?	02:16
roudad	aggro, yes.	02:16
roudad	aggro, its def not software level.. i checked in bios.	02:16
cyberbluntz	is there a way to get him to spit out cmd list?	02:16
roudad	aggro, just wondering if there may be a self-fix	02:16
arand	cyberbluntz: !factoid	02:17
wasutton3_1	does anyone know of a well supported usb agps device?	02:17
aggro	roudad, i gotcha, definitely not software. i would open 'er up and reseat the cable from the keyboard (top case, etc) to the motherboard	02:17
brjann	dsnyders: #kde	02:17
allen	now i'm trying to /msg myself by typing "/msg allen hi" but i don't see any message for me	02:17
roudad	aggro, its a netbook	02:17
dsnyders	brjann, Thanks. Still struggling with http://imagebin.org/85792	02:17
ActionParsnip	!hcl \| wasutton3_1	02:17
ubottu	wasutton3_1: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	02:17
brjann	dsnyders: I figured :)	02:17
aggro	roudad, it still has a motherboard :)	02:18
roudad	aggro, okay. im off! thanks	02:18
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quidnunc	How do I invoke "switch user" from the console?	02:18
allen	ok i'm off too, seeya later thanks for the help	02:18
allen	but how do i exit... /exit?	02:18
roudad	quidnunc su	02:18
enav	i will try to register	02:18
quidnunc	roudad: No. "fast user switching"	02:19
mohadib	is there a channel for ubuntu packagers?	02:19
dsnyders	quidnunc, the console command is su	02:19
quidnunc	mohadib: ubuntu-motu	02:19
mohadib	thanks	02:19
ActionParsnip	Mohadib: #ubuntu-devel maybe	02:19
quidnunc	dsnyders: No.	02:19
quidnunc	dsnyders: I want to switch user for the gnome session	02:19
wasutton3_1	ActionParsnip: i already checked there, but there doesnt seem to be any agps device entries	02:19
DJ_HaMsTa	how do i "Next, open the Gnome Configuration Editor: gconf-edito"	02:20
DJ_HaMsTa	?	02:20
ActionParsnip	Wasutton3_1: do you mean gps?	02:20
dsnyders	quidnunc, Oh. Sorry. I thought you said console.	02:20
switchgirl	Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0e8d:0002 MediaTek Inc << is that likley to be a phone i have plugged into my pc and if so how to find the mount point for wammu	02:20
quidnunc	dsnyders: I did say console. 'Cause I want to do it from the console	02:20
syn-ack	agps? are you looking to tether to your cell phone or something, wasutton3_1?	02:21
tzeentch	anybody know where I can find a /etc/gdm/Init/Default ? I broke mine somehow.	02:21
wasutton3_1	ActionParsnip: no, AGPS is a different protocol. AGPS uses triangulation with cellular towers in addition to sattelites (uses less power)	02:21
wasutton3_1	syn-ack: no, im looking to have a seperate card for a roadtrip and such	02:21
syn-ack	it's also a heck of a lot less accurate	02:21
ActionParsnip	Wasutton3_1: ask providers if they support linux. Or check their sites	02:21
eXe__^	what filesystem do you guys prefer on a 2ghz dual core laptop with 4GB Ram?	02:22
eXe__^	ext3?	02:22
wasutton3_1	ActionParsnip: ok, i was just curious if anyone knew	02:22
syn-ack	ext4/LVM	02:22
wasutton3_1	eXe__^: ext4	02:22
ActionParsnip	Exe_^: filesystem isn't governed by cpu speed	02:22
eXe__^	how new is ext4	02:22
eXe__^	im not a *nix guy	02:22
ActionParsnip	Exe_^: the default (ext4) will be fine for you	02:23
eXe__^	never heard of it before	02:23
syn-ack	eXe__^: about a year and half old	02:23
cyberbluntz	!madwifi	02:23
ubottu	Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:23
eXe__^	okey	02:23
syn-ack	eXe__^: if exe4 is good enough for google, it's good enough for you. Ask them, They went ahead and hired it's creator	02:24
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=== danblick1 is now known as danblick
syn-ack	ext4 ugh	02:25
cyberbluntz	thats pretty weak ubottu	02:25
eXe__^	syn-ack: naa.. .. google dont impress me	02:25
eXe__^	but pussy does	02:25
adrian26	hi, I've problems with my tv card, somebody know how to install one	02:25
eXe__^	thanks for the help guys	02:25
eXe__^	laters	02:25
ActionParsnip	Exe_^: +1 dude	02:25
FloodBot2	eXe__^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:25
syn-ack	...	02:26
histo	ext4 is fine	02:26
histo	!tv \| adrian26	02:26
syn-ack	it's actually better, performance on an LVM than XFS is	02:26
ubottu	adrian26: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out	02:26
syn-ack	and I'm impressed Good Troll is Good	02:26
ActionParsnip	I just use the default. Just because google use it doesn't make it awesome	02:27
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syn-ack	ActionParsnip: actually the fact that google IS migrating to it does say a lot	02:27
ActionParsnip	Hardly	02:28
ActionParsnip	They also use gos on their desktops. Maybe we should al ditch ubuntu to use that too eh	02:28
syn-ack	Nah, because gOS is nothing more than Ubuntu with a crap interface	02:29
blakkheim	syn-ack: i think you're thinking of kubuntu	02:29
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: but google use it so it says a lot doesn't it?	02:29
syn-ack	blakkheim: ooooh, check match	02:29
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syn-ack	ActionParsnip: not the channel for this debate but I'd be more than happy to school you elsewhere	02:30
syn-ack	;)	02:30
lozano	-----	02:30
ActionParsnip	Syn-ack: I just recognise google isn't the be all and end all. Simple as	02:30
lozano	wut	02:30
sergio	hola alguien por el oriente de merida, yucatan	02:31
cyberbluntz	I have a questio about the bot http://pastebin.com/qM5SuSHm	02:31
lozano	:D	02:31
ricree	is there an easy way to install a package from a repository from an older release of Ubuntu? A program I'm using seems to have a bug that was introduced in the Jaunty binary, but is supposedly working in the Intrepid one	02:31
lozano	bye fuckerz	02:31
stooj	I've been given a machine, but Ubuntu doesn't recognise the ethernet card. It doesn't show up in lspci either. Can anyone tell me what my next step is? (Short of buying a new NIC)?	02:31
brjann	!es \| sergio	02:31
ubottu	sergio: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	02:31
tzeentch	my appearances settings are not sticking from sessions to sessions. Anybody got an idea where I should look to first?	02:32
blakkheim	stooj: buy- nevermind	02:32
ActionParsnip	Ricree: you shouldn't mix debs from anything other than the release you are on	02:32
Blue1	nics are cheap	02:32
stooj	Heh, thanks blakkheim ;)	02:32
lozano	really	02:32
brandyn	hi guys	02:32
histo	tzeentch: permissions on your /home/tzeentch folder or the .gconf folder in there	02:32
blakkheim	stooj: but really, why not get a new nic for it? they aren't much money	02:33
lozano	D:	02:33
cyberbluntz	Will someone explain this to me http://pastebin.com/qM5SuSHm	02:33
ActionParsnip	Stooj; check its enabled in bios	02:33
veebull	Can someone help me set up a basic anon ftp server using vsftpd on 9.10?	02:33
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lozano	000{}_____++++++++++++000000	02:33
ricree	ActionParsnip: so building from source is probably going to be my best option then?\	02:33
ActionParsnip	Cyberbluntz: its used to call ops if someone is trolling	02:33
dsnyders	cyberbluntz, IRC channels have people monitoring the chat to make sure people are not spamming, or cursing, or acting against the rules. When these people are away, they can be summoned.	02:33
histo	ricree: It may be a dependancy issue that is causing the bug	02:33
stooj	blakkheim: Might end up doing so. It is a work machine, so this is just temporary.	02:34
histo	ricree: you can try the older packge if you want but I would build from source.	02:34
histo	ricree: what program is it?	02:34
cyberbluntz	So those names are the people who would be summoned?	02:34
stooj	ActionParsnip: Will have a look, but it worked in Windows before I blew that away	02:34
veebull	I keep getting 'critical file transfer error' when I try to download a simple text file that i put in the /srv/ftp directory	02:34
blakkheim	stooj: if it doesn't show up even in lspci don't you think it's probably bad anyway?	02:34
veebull	I can see it, but I can't get to it.	02:34
histo	veebull: permissions?	02:35
ActionParsnip	Riceree: i'd say so. You could download the deb from a ppa with an older version. Uninstall the current then install using the deb then pin the version so it doesn't get upgraded	02:35
tzeentch	histo : folder is 755, .gconf is 700. Should it be otherwise?	02:35
ActionParsnip	Stooj: ok that's cool. Reboot and run: dmesg \| less ,see if its detected	02:35
Blue1	ActionParsnip: isnt' that what backporting does?	02:35
veebull	histo, just found that. default permission (root) was 700, changed to 777 and I got it	02:35
BayArea	would anyone be willing to help a newb understand why the Intel PRO1000 card shows up on lspci, but cant connect to the internet?	02:35
ActionParsnip	Blue1: true depends what's installed. Can you advise the guy/gal	02:36
brjann	tzeentch: my .gconf directory is 700, and gnome is working correctly for me	02:36
syn-ack	BayArea: what does lsmod tell you?	02:36
BayArea	syn: let me take a look	02:36
Blue1	ActionParsnip: i can try...I just got here so someone fill me in a bit please?	02:36
syn-ack	BayArea: you should see the iw2000 driver installed into the kernel	02:36
syn-ack	I think it's the iw2000	02:36
ActionParsnip	Bayarea: if you set an ip and gateway and dns servers does it work?	02:36
histo	tzeentch: .gconf should be 700 thats not it then	02:36
ActionParsnip	Blue1: user wants an older version than is availa ble on the repos	02:37
ActionParsnip	Tzeentch: check you are the owner too	02:37
magn3ts	This is ridiculous. I disable my touchpad in gsynaptics and Ubuntu turns it back on 30 seconds later. Ubuntu can't remember my X11 cursor for more than 30 minutes, god forbid I reboot.	02:37
Blue1	ActionParsnip: example of backporting: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=152	02:38
BayArea	syn-ack: lsmod "e1000 119264 0"	02:38
syn-ack	BayArea: ah yeah, good good	02:38
tzeentch	ActionParsnip : Yep, I am.	02:38
syn-ack	BayArea: refer to what ActionParsnip said	02:38
Nolan2	Hey, I just installed ubuntu, but now my windows isn't loading, I think it may have something to do with GRUB, but I'm not sure... Any suggestions?	02:38
histo	tzeentch: ActionParsnip thats wierd	02:38
ActionParsnip	!grub2 \| nolann2	02:38
ubottu	nolann2: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	02:38
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: synaptics drivers and X have been 'a work in progress' for a while. Im suprised that gsynaptics even works.	02:39
stooj	OK. Will let you know, ActionParsnip	02:39
stooj	Cheers	02:39
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, gsynaptics has been around for years though. I remember it being around in 8.04	02:39
magn3ts	>_<	02:39
syn-ack	magn3ts: there have been a lot of subsystem changes since then its really been hit and miss	02:39
BayArea	syn-ack: ok. i'm not sure what those value are. this is going directly to my cable modem (via DHCP from comcast)	02:39
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: yes.. and X has been dojng a lot of Input devices changes in the last year or so. that required the gsynaptics tools and other similer tools to do things differntly	02:40
syn-ack	BayArea: did you cycle the modem?	02:40
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: i recall some docs/articals on it at the gsynaptics homepage	02:40
DJ_HaMsTa	Any idea on how to change the port number in 9.10 ?	02:40
cyberbluntz	ffs	02:40
BayArea	syn-ack: works fine when I plug the cable into my mac (this computer)	02:40
DJ_HaMsTa	for remote desktop**	02:40
syn-ack	BayArea: it could be that the modem is still learned to the old MAC	02:40
tzeentch	histo : Yes it is. Could it be because I screwed up /etc/gdm/Init/Default ?	02:40
magn3ts	Gah, someday when I'm not writing this J2EE crap I'm going to patch gnome-mouse-preferences so that it has the options that gsynpatics has	02:40
syn-ack	BayArea: thats why, plug it into the other computer and cycle the modem	02:40
histo	tzeentch: the other directory to check is .gnome	02:41
BayArea	syn-ack: ok, gunna log me off then. thanks for your help, mate! you too ActionParsnip	02:41
histo	tzeentch: you can try using gnome-session-save to save settings	02:41
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: i was thiniing at one time gsynaptics was going to be discontinued. i think some variants on it have died off. But i dont use it any more sohavent paied attention to it	02:41
histo	tzeentch: perhaps its a problem with that being called	02:42
tzeentch	histo : I don't have a .gnome. I got a .gnome2 and a .gnome2_private which are 700 and which I own.	02:42
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, thats a shame. 9.10 has been very disappointing in a lot of ways. as I mentioned, X11 refuses to use my cursor theme, I can't even make it show up in gnome-appearance-preferences. I can't configure GDM, there are less screensavers that I still can not configure, etc. very frustrating.	02:42
histo	tzeentch: try changing settings and running gnome-session-save in terminal then log out and back in see if that works	02:42
syn-ack	magn3ts: all politics aside, I wasnt impressed with 9.10. 10.04 will be different story though	02:43
histo	tzeentch: actually disregard that	02:43
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: dont blame 9.10 for changes made by the X devs - and the gnome devs.. screensavers have been a point of argument for ages. again thats GNOME devs stuff..	02:43
Evet	i have deleted /etc/apache2 folder, now apache2 package cannot be installed properly. how to solve this?	02:43
paribanu	join #ubuntu-uy	02:43
paribanu	hola! alguien que hable español?	02:44
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: dident notice the gnome menus icons vanish last week? :) more gnome dev ideas	02:44
cyberbluntz	!es	02:44
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	02:44
Nolan2	:/ That link didn't really help me.	02:44
Nolan2	Any other suggestions?	02:44
histo	tzeentch: I don't htink session-save does that. Is it any setting you chagne thats not being saved?	02:44
Unstable	Hey guys, perl question here, if im not in the right place just point me the way, but when i try to install a package to perl from CPAN it said "returned status 512, wont make" any suggestions?	02:44
histo	Unstable: I would ask the packager	02:45
ActionParsnip	Unstable: or #perl	02:45
magn3ts	syn-ack, Dr_Willis, you're right. I say 9.10 and I know that a lot of that has to do with GNOME. Ugh. I just can't stand QT and the same problems I have with how GNOME is configured are the problems I have with KDE	02:45
magn3ts	Oh well.	02:45
histo	tzeentch: there is #gnome also	02:45
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: wait for gnome-3 people will go berzerke	02:45
Unstable	The packager?	02:46
ActionParsnip	Dr_willis: when is it due?	02:46
Unstable	And thanks for direction to #perl	02:46
histo	Dr_Willis: Are they going to do the panels thing?	02:46
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, I still want to see a new DE rise up that integrates well with compiz by default, etc.	02:46
histo	Dr_Willis: that will really freak people out	02:46
Dr_Willis	ActionParsnip: gnome-3 is still in the whiteboard stage. :)	02:46
ActionParsnip	Dr_willis: nice	02:46
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: compiz will be dead in a few years i imagine.	02:46
histo	Gnome doesn't change very much	02:46
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, uh why do you say that?	02:46
histo	X will obsorb compiz	02:47
ActionParsnip	Dr_willis: with some hope :)	02:47
Dr_Willis	magn3ts: the fetures it does are gettting assemliated	02:47
tzeentch	histo : One example is the System->preferences->apperance->Visual Effects I got to re-enable it every time I log on.	02:47
Dr_Willis	Emerald is allready basicaly dead	02:47
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, into...? the DE itself? Quite frankly, I don't want ot see the flexibilty I have with compiz gnome-ified.	02:47
syn-ack	yeah	02:47
Dr_Willis	tzeentch: i always use the fusion-icon tool - it seems to smooth out some quiks like that	02:47
ActionParsnip	Tzeentch: add the command in startup items	02:47
histo	magn3ts: you will always have flexibility in linux even if its inegrated	02:47
magn3ts	tzeentch, I will second what Dr_Willis just said.	02:48
Nolan2	So, can anyone help...?	02:48
histo	magn3ts: thats one of the problems there are 99 ways to do one given task	02:48
ActionParsnip	Nolan2: sup	02:48
magn3ts	histo, yeah but I know that the simple but powerful GUI for compiz now would be obliterated if put into GNOME core	02:48
magn3ts	:[	02:48
* ActionParsnip prefers openbox to compiz		02:49
Dr_Willis	Simple GUI for compiz? what one are you refering to?	02:49
Dr_Willis	:)	02:49
syn-ack	magn3ts: I'm one of the anti-gnome-3ers out there and I'm already migrating all my systems over to XFCE	02:49
Dr_Willis	Theres the idiot-friendly one and the nightmarish one...	02:49
Nolan2	Oh, that link you gave me up there didn't really help ActionParsnip.	02:49
ActionParsnip	Nolan2: what is your issue?	02:49
magn3ts	Dr_Willis, well maybe simple wasn't the right word, but coherent at least. I think its pretty standard how things are done but its still very very configurable	02:49
Dr_Willis	I think compiz needs a tool to print out all the keybindings that are in USE for a given setup. :)	02:50
Dr_Willis	but theres only like 4 features i use in compiz	02:50
parolang	syn-ack: stumpwm :)	02:51
claybustr	How can I reset my alsa configs to an out of the box ubuntu clean install config?	02:51
ActionParsnip	Flwm!	02:51
syn-ack	parolang: I'm partial to GTk	02:51
syn-ack	:p	02:51
Nolan3	crap. lol	02:51
Nolan3	As I was saying..	02:51
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soreau	Dr_Willis: With ccsm's advanced search feature, you can press a keybinding and see if it's assigned to any plugin	02:51
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Nolan3	[21:50] <Nolan2> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10, and when I try to dual boot into windows, it doesn't do anything.	02:51
Nolan3	[21:50] <Nolan2> It just displays a blinking -	02:51
parolang	syn-ack: GTK is a widget toolkit. Stumpwm is a window manager. You can (and do) use both :)	02:51
ActionParsnip	Claybustr: rename or delete the .gnome .gnome2 etc folders in $HOME. You will need to do the same to $HOME/.config	02:52
syn-ack	parolang: I'm aware of that. but I like the integration of which is provided in Gnome and XFCE. ;)	02:52
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SaratogaCx	Hi, I have a problem with Wireless.. My machine used to work and at some point it stopped getting a dhcp address from my router. I can see my router other computers can connect to it (android phone, windows pc etc.) w/out issue but dhclient commands try and fail. Any ideas where I can start looking to fix this?	02:52
Nolan3	did ya see that ActionParsnip?	02:52
parolang	syn-ack: kay :)	02:52
claybustr	will that also get rid of the stuck phantom gnome-display-properties in the notification area?	02:53
syn-ack	parolang: imo it give a much more integrated look over running something like OpenBox then gtk apps on top, etc	02:53
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: rename xorg.conf if you have one. Also run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	02:53
cyberbluntz	try booting to your windows recovery console and fixmbr	02:53
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: use root recovery console	02:53
parolang	Anyway, what I came here to ask is...I set the option to decrypt my home partition when I log in on the install. This won't give me any problems, will it? What is the program it uses for encryption?	02:53
Nolan3	Uhh.. Where is that?	02:54
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: hold shift at boot, you will see grub menu. Choose the recovery mode then root	02:54
parolang	syn-ack: What window manager do you run with xfce?	02:54
cyberbluntz	actually, just say screw windows and just use linux	02:54
cyberbluntz	:D	02:55
syn-ack	parolang: compiz or xfwm	02:55
Nolan3	>.> I've never heard that one before cyb3r3li0g	02:55
parolang	syn-ack: Oh...didn't know about xfwm.	02:55
parolang	syn-ack: I stay away from compiz :)	02:55
stooj	ActionParsnip: Bah. It was disabled - someone else in the office disabled it when trying to fix windows. Thanks for the help anyway :)	02:55
syn-ack	xfwm is the default window manager for XFCE	02:55
ActionParsnip	Parolang: me too	02:55
Nolan3	okay, I'll try that now ActionParsnip.	02:55
ActionParsnip	Stooj: d'oh	02:55
parolang	compiz is neato for about a day and a half :)	02:56
ActionParsnip	Parolang: openbox ftw :)	02:56
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magn3ts	I love compiz. Compiz makes my life so much better. Netbeans in one pane, chromium/xchat in the other, my debug terminals in the third. trailfocus is a god send	02:57
GeekSquid	cyberbluntz: good to see you agreeing with me	02:57
histo	openbox here for me too	02:57
cyberbluntz	lol	02:57
pedrocr	anyone know where I can find the list of packages installed by default in karmic? Basically the output of "dpkg -l" after a fresh install	02:57
syn-ack	parolang: I don't really get all carried away, theres just a nice and simple emerald theme that I like to use	02:57
syn-ack	parolang: so yeah	02:57
histo	magn3ts: you don't need compiz for mutiple workspaces	02:57
magn3ts	plus I really love expo and scale, way better and faster than alt+tab (though alt-tabbing is even better in compiz)	02:57
magn3ts	histo, I kow	02:57
jeevan	hii	02:57
magn3ts	also, I know.	02:57
magn3ts	:)	02:57
FloodBot2	magn3ts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:57
jeevan	hey how to use yahooo on ubuntu	02:58
Nolan3	:/ holding shift didn't do anything ActionParsnip.	02:58
histo	jeevan: yahoo messenger?	02:58
parolang	Ubuntu tells me I need to replace my HD :(	02:58
jeevan	yea histo	02:58
* soreau thinks that people who love compiz probably don't have crappy machines		02:58
histo	jeevan: use Applications > INternet > Pidgin	02:58
jeevan	but pidgin is not getting yahoo	02:58
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: what is the output of: uname -c	02:58
harisund	histo: that is not yahoo messenger though .. parolang: how does it tell you that?	02:58
jeevan	only gtalk is available	02:59
histo	harisund: it can connect to it	02:59
ActionParsnip	Jeevan: you may need the pidgin ppa	02:59
jeevan	yea i hav pidgin	02:59
histo	jeevan: ymsg I believe is in the drop down?	02:59
Nolan3	wait, I got it.	02:59
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jeevan	but yahoo msg is not connectng with it	02:59
parolang	harisund: It was in the messaging area, next to the time/date. Ubuntu is actually pretty smart to have found it :)	02:59
ActionParsnip	Jeevan: add the ppa for a newer build. It may help	02:59
Nolan3	The recovery manager is listed by default underneith my Ubuntu.	02:59
histo	jeevan: ahh hold up	02:59
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: then use that	03:00
parolang	harisund: I'm having it do a self test. Otherwise, I'll have to buy another HD.	03:00
harisund	parolang: how do I ask Ubuntu to check my hard disk, do you know?	03:00
jeevan	is there any msg like pidgin	03:00
jeevan	??	03:00
histo	jeevan: http://blog.mypapit.net/2009/06/solving-pidgin-yahoo-messenger-problem.html	03:00
Nolan3	okay I'm at root, now what?	03:00
ActionParsnip	!fsck \| harisund	03:00
ubottu	harisund: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot	03:00
histo	jeevan: aparently yahoo changed their servers	03:00
jeevan	thank u histo	03:00
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old	03:00
histo	jeevan: what version of pidgin are you using?	03:01
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	03:01
jeevan	am on ubuntu 9.04	03:01
jeevan	and defalut pidgin	03:01
ActionParsnip	Jeevan: the ppa version may set the right servers. Histo is right and yahoo change their servers like you change socks	03:02
jeevan	he he	03:02
jeevan	lol	03:02
Roey	hi	03:02
Roey	Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo) not available.	03:02
Roey	Enable it at compilation.	03:02
Roey	Requested audio codec family [wma9spdshow] (afm=dshow) not available.	03:02
FloodBot2	Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:02
parolang	harisund: The program is called palimpset, never heard of it before.	03:02
Roey	what package contains these extra codecs?	03:03
Nolan3	mv cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory	03:03
harisund	parolang: ah ok cool thanks :)	03:03
harisund	parolang: palimpset? Correct spelling? I am not able to find such a package	03:03
parolang	harisund: sorry...palimpsest	03:04
ActionParsnip	Jeevan: sudo add-apt-repository pp:pidgin-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade	03:04
parolang	harisund: It must come default...I just installed ubuntu.	03:04
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: that's fine then	03:04
parolang	aptitude search palimpsest	03:04
harisund	It says it's under gnome-disk-utility	03:05
parolang	ah	03:05
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kinja-sheep	!away > KamusHadenesAway	03:05
parolang	I could use a bigger HD anyway...only 9.1 GB right now :)	03:05
ubottu	KamusHadenesAway, please see my private message	03:05
Mr-Doug	can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu 9.10 amd 64 to recognize my fax modem?	03:06
Nolan3	Okay I did that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing	03:06
Nolan3	Now what?	03:06
ActionParsnip	Mr-doug: is it usb or pci?	03:06
Mr-Doug	pci	03:06
Nolan3	I put it in and it didn't do anything lol.	03:06
ActionParsnip	Nolan: shutdown -r now	03:06
Nolan3	k.	03:06
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ActionParsnip	Nolan3: linux doesn't give feedback if it succeeds	03:06
Nolan3	I noticed that xD	03:07
yxmn2	what is the best way of setting up a virtual machine in Linux?	03:07
ActionParsnip	!virtual \| yxmn2	03:07
ubottu	yxmn2: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications	03:07
Nolan3	Hmmmmmmmmmmm	03:07
ActionParsnip	!best \| yxmn2	03:07
ubottu	yxmn2: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	03:07
Nolan3	It's still doing it ActionParsnip :(	03:08
Mr-Doug	ActionParsnip: it is PCI modem	03:08
Nolan3	!WINE	03:08
ubottu	WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	03:08
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ActionParsnip	Mr-doug: run lspci and websearch for the line which identifys the device	03:09
Nolan3	!virtualizers	03:09
ubottu	There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications	03:09
Mr-Doug	ok	03:09
Mulevad	hello - (I'm a newbee here) I just installed ubuntu and can't get my screen resolution beyond 800x600. I'm also new to ubuntu. I'm using an inspiron 4000 laptop. Can someone point me in the right direction?	03:09
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: if you boot an older kernel is it ok?	03:09
ActionParsnip	Mulevad: what is the output of: lspci \| grep -i vga	03:09
Nolan3	Errr... what?	03:10
ssmy	Mulevad: try going to System -> Administration -> HArdware Drivers and installing any that come up, then rebooting	03:10
Roey	I think I'm missing some WMV codecs; I get stuff like "Requested audio codec family [wma9spdmo] (afm=dmo) not available. Enable it at compilation.", "Requested audio codec family [wma9spdshow] (afm=dshow) not available.". Which packages contain these codecs?	03:10
ActionParsnip	Nolan3: choose a different kernal when you boot	03:10
ActionParsnip	!codec \| roey	03:10
ubottu	roey: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	03:10
Mr-Doug	01:05.0 Communication controller: 3Com Corp, Modem Division USR 56k Internal WinModem	03:11
Nolan3	It boots into Ubuntu fine, just not Windows Media Center Edition.	03:11
Mulevad	01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)	03:11
ActionParsnip	Mr-doug: see what websearches say with that	03:11
Mr-Doug	ok	03:11
ActionParsnip	!ati \| mulevad	03:11
ubottu	mulevad: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:11
cyberbluntz	Mulevad: Click system / administration / hardware drivers	03:13
Mulevad	I was hoping this would be easier... Thanks ubottu. I've tried system administration->etc. 800x600 is the best option	03:13
ActionParsnip	!grub2 \| Nolan3	03:14
ubottu	Nolan3: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	03:14
surjya	hi	03:14
yxmn2	hi	03:14
GeekSquid	!hi \| surjya yxmn2	03:14
ubottu	surjya yxmn2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	03:14
surjya	i am running ubuntu netbook remix from usb on my netbook	03:14
Nolan3	:(	03:14
Nolan3	Damn	03:14
ssmy	Mulevad: the problem is that your card is so old support is going away. Should work with some experimentation though.	03:14
surjya	but the touchscreen not working	03:14
surjya	can anybody help	03:14
kinja-sheep	I'm forgetting how to outpipe the list of files into gedit or such. What was it again? :\	03:14
ssmy	surjya: touchscreen? what make/model is it?	03:15
GeekSquid	surjya: which netbook?	03:15
surjya	ASUS EeePC T91	03:15
surjya	with intel atom processor	03:15
parolang	Ah...HD crash :(	03:15
surjya	HD crash?	03:16
parolang	yep	03:16
parolang	It was an old HD :)	03:16
fenix	yes	03:16
surjya	what is HD?	03:16
parolang	hard disk	03:16
surjya	i m running from USB drive	03:16
kinja-sheep	High Definition!	03:16
surjya	not installed till now	03:16
surjya	on my HD	03:17
fivetwentysix	My lan just stopped working. It just keeps trying to connect to the internet but does nothing.	03:17
parolang	surge_: It's better running native :)	03:17
fivetwentysix	What log should i look at to get more information?	03:17
yxmn2	surjya, Hand Dilation	03:17
surjya	enough for HD	03:17
Mulevad	Sorry I think I closed some conversations. I didn't realize.	03:17
ssmy	surjya: would appear to be answered here http://setupguides.blogspot.com/2009/11/touchscreen.html	03:17
surjya	is there any IRC channel?	03:18
surjya	for UNR?	03:18
ssmy	surjya: mostly just here, UNR is really just ubuntu with a slightly different setup	03:18
surjya	but if its netbook version there should be touchscreen driver	03:19
brjann	kinja-sheep: gedit can't actually read from pipes anymore	03:19
Lenin_Cat	uh-oh	03:20
surjya	how somebody can imagine netbooks without touchscreen?	03:20
Lenin_Cat	s	03:20
fivetwentysix	My internet stopped working, it's connected through a wire to a router, nothing has changed since yesterday as far as I know, it just doesn't work anymore. Any idea on how to troubleshoot this issue?	03:20
Lenin_Cat	sudo dpkg --configure -a isnt working	03:20
kinja-sheep	brjann: Just tried it. It worked. I remember it now though. :)	03:21
brjann	kinja-sheep: really? what did you do? there's a long-standing bug in launchpad re: gedit's inability to read from pipes	03:21
Nolan3	Hey, I just installed Ubuntu, but now it's not letting be boot into windows. It shows the Windows selection, but when I try to select it it just Gives me a blinking _	03:22
Nolan3	And suggestions?	03:22
Nolan3	Any*	03:22
kinja-sheep	brjann: grep or whatever (to get a list of files) \| xargs gedit	03:22
dsnyders	Hi all, is there a grep expression for excluding lines?	03:22
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brjann	kinja-sheep: oh, you just wanted to open the files? i'm sorry, i thought you wanted to edit the list itself :)	03:23
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Lenin_Cat	sudo dpkg --configure -a isnt working, something is failing to configure	03:23
jburges	Nolan2: odd, I've never had any problems, how did you install it? livecd or wubi?	03:23
Nolan2	Livecd.	03:23
brjann	dsnyders: grep -v 'pattern' will exclude all lines matching pattern	03:23
Nolan2	John you ass. -.-	03:23
Nolan2	>.>	03:23
dsnyders	brjann, Thanks.	03:23
tomatoes7__	hallelujah i'm a bum	03:24
GeekSquid	surjya: xserver-xorg-input-evtouch is the most common touchscreen driver .. other than that I cannot help	03:25
airtonix	trying to run this python script for notification daemon, ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=summary-body.py ) but it gives me an error that : http://pastebin.com/7TcEzThp	03:25
GeekSquid	surjya: it will be available in synaptic package manager	03:25
surjya	ok	03:25
surjya	let me check	03:25
Lenin_Cat	sudo dpkg --configure -a isnt working, something is failing to configure	03:26
alex702	where is xorg.conf in ubuntu 10.4?	03:26
GeekSquid	Lenin_Cat: it is sudo dpkg-reconfigure	03:26
GeekSquid	!lucid \| alex702	03:26
kinja-sheep	alex702: #ubuntu+1	03:26
ubottu	alex702: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1	03:26
Nolan2	So, can anyone help me out?	03:26
Lenin_Cat	GeekSquid, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: pgf is broken or not fully installed	03:27
alex702	where can i find xorg.conf ?	03:27
alex702	its not in etc/X11/	03:27
kinja-sheep	alex702: /join #ubuntu+1	03:27
alex702	thanks guys but i couldnt find it in 9.10 either	03:28
fivetwentysix	My internet stopped working, it's connected through a wire to a router, nothing has changed since yesterday as far as I know, it just doesn't work as of today. Any idea on how to troubleshoot this issue? Connecting through a ethernet controller. Running Karmic (9.10)	03:28
Lenin_Cat	why do users use unstable verisons of ubuntu as stable ones	03:28
brjann	fivetwentysix: I'm assuming you've verified that it's not your ISP? :)	03:28
GeekSquid	alex702: it isn't there XrandR takes care of everything in most cases ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xorg.conf	03:29
fivetwentysix	brjann: Yes, I'm connected to the same router on a mac book pro.	03:29
kinja-sheep	Lenin_Cat: Because stable machines freed up 90% of their times and they wish to avoid doing something productive.	03:29
fivetwentysix	brjann: However I'm through wireless. I will test now to see if it works with a wire.	03:29
pheonix	what does shift control alt f4 do?	03:29
brjann	fivetwentysix: good idea	03:29
Nolan2	!VMWare	03:29
ubottu	VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware	03:29
Nolan2	!VirtualBox	03:29
ubottu	virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox	03:29
john	Hi group I got the montor working just fine I just updated to 9.10 but how does one load up drivers for a web Cam	03:29
Mulevad	What does ActionParsnip mean by !ati \| mulevad	03:29
Nolan2	!free	03:30
ubottu	freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing	03:30
kinja-sheep	Mulevad: ActionParsnip provide you information about !ati (for ubottu).	03:30
kinja-sheep	!ati \| Mulevad	03:30
ubottu	Mulevad: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:30
richlyn	installed tor and enabled ...got error "proxy server refusing connections"	03:30
fivetwentysix_	brjann: sorry accidently tripped my wire	03:31
GeekSquid	pheonix: not mapped to anything but because Ctrl-Alt-F4 will drop you to a virtual terminal scaf4 will do the same thing .... normally you wouldn't map all 3 modifier keys	03:31
fivetwentysix_	brjann: everything works	03:31
fivetwentysix_	brjann: nothing wrong with the router	03:31
brjann	fivetwentysix_: great, glad to hear it :)	03:31
fivetwentysix_	brjann: So what's wrong with ubuntu?	03:31
binMonkey	hi, guys. google chrome unstable and beta have been stallling on me the last couple of days. i finally looked at htop and realized that old sessions hadn't closed. could that be the reason new sessions are stalling? chrome is installed in /opt if it makes any difference.	03:31
fivetwentysix_	brjann: The network manager icon just keeps spinning but does nothing, can even go on for hours.	03:32
brjann	fivetwentysix_: does that machine just have one network card?	03:32
Mulevad	thanks ubottu - I'm off to binarydriverhowto land...	03:32
fivetwentysix_	brjann: yes.	03:33
brjann	fivetwentysix_: okay. are you familiar with the command line?	03:33
fivetwentysix_	brjann: Where is the log file for network activity located?	03:33
fivetwentysix_	brjann: Sort-of.	03:33
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Hennkis	i have problems with network	03:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: there isn't a log file for networking exactly; most of the messages would end up in syslog	03:34
Hennkis	it doesnt work	03:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: /var/log/syslog i mean	03:34
Gamrok	guys what is the xforcevesa command	03:34
GeekSquid	!work \| Hennkis	03:34
ubottu	Hennkis: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.	03:34
Hennkis	i cant connect my laptop to internet	03:34
surjya	i checked for this "xserver-xorg-input-evtouch" . its not there	03:34
Hennkis	i have static	03:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: open up a terminal window and ifconfig	03:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: yeah i know	03:35
GeekSquid	!enter \| Hennkis	03:35
ubottu	Hennkis: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	03:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay	03:35
Hennkis	but i cant open any page from internet	03:35
Hennkis	ok	03:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: returns two controllers, eth0 + lo	03:35
Hennkis	sorry	03:35
brjann	fivetwentysix: would you mind pastebinning the output of ifconfig for me?	03:35
GeekSquid	Hennkis: if you set a static IP you need to provide a DNS server or you won't have internet ...	03:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: how I don't have network access lol	03:35
rinah	hi...............	03:36
brjann	fivetwentysix: ha! good point o_O sorry	03:36
GeekSquid	!hi \|rinah	03:36
ubottu	rinah: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	03:36
rinah	how are you?	03:36
fivetwentysix	brjann: err key points, eth0 says UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST	03:36
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, does eth0 have anything listed next to inet addr: ?	03:36
Hennkis	dns?? i am new on this, letme see	03:36
GeekSquid	!chat \| rinah	03:36
ubottu	rinah: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete	03:36
GeekSquid	!support \| rinah	03:36
ubottu	rinah: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org	03:36
fivetwentysix	brjann: yeah it says inet6 addr: fe80::211... Spoke:Link	03:37
rinah	from where you?	03:37
Gamrok	guys what is the xforcevesa command	03:37
fivetwentysix	err Scope*	03:37
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, so just an inet6 address? nothing with just inet?	03:37
fivetwentysix	brjann: Also there a /64 at the end just before Scope, but this machine is i386	03:37
GeekSquid	rinah: this is not a chat channel this is a support channel, not for idle chat, please find another, more appropriate channel	03:38
brjann	fivetwentysix: that's fine, that /64 is just a subnet mask, not related to your CPU	03:38
fivetwentysix	brjann: nothing with inet, this is probably because it's not connected to the network, it's trying to connect but does nothing.	03:38
rinah	where you now geeksquid?	03:38
Stik	lol	03:38
brjann	fivetwentysix: right, that's what I wanted to verify.	03:39
GeekSquid	!troll \| rinah	03:39
ubottu	rinah: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel	03:39
GeekSquid	you have been warned	03:39
fivetwentysix	brjann: I'm looking at the syslog, it says something like Stage 4 of 5 (IP6 configure Get) but i noticed there's no stage 5	03:39
rinah	what is your nationality?	03:39
Madpilot	rinah, if you just want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic	03:39
GeekSquid	!ops \| rinah Troll or just plain idoit	03:40
ubottu	rinah Troll or just plain idoit: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	03:40
airtonix	i'm getting an error of : "org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files" when i try to use that dbus service to print notifications to the screen... i have notification-daemon installed...	03:40
brjann	fivetwentysix: and it's listing eth0 in the Stage messages, yes?	03:40
rinah	how? i dont know yet, its my 1st time.	03:40
GeekSquid	!guidelines \| rinah	03:41
ubottu	rinah: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines	03:41
Madpilot	GeekSquid, it's OK	03:41
fivetwentysix	brjann: yeah, and states it's complete. but doesn't start stage 5 of 5. I'm guessing there's no stage 5 of 5 because I searched my whole log for it to find nothing.	03:41
crankharder	what's the cmd to see the current version of ubuntu i have installed?	03:41
Madpilot	rinah, type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" without the " around it	03:41
Madpilot	crankharder, "lsb_release -a" in terminal	03:41
brjann	fivetwentysix: yes, stage 5 is finalizing the network connection, which clearly isn't happening	03:41
fivetwentysix	brjann: Well it should display like on yesterdays log because it was working yesterday.	03:42
IdleOne	GeekSquid: you may want to take a look at the guidelines also and the !coc. I am sure that it says something about not calling people idiots	03:42
brjann	fivetwentysix: yesterday's log has probably been rotated; those are the .1, .2.gz, ... etc files	03:42
fivetwentysix	brjann: Was there any new updates that have occurred like a kernel update in the past few days, perhaps the user updated the machine and something broke.	03:42
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brjann	fivetwentysix: no, i don't recall anything in the last few days besides a sudo security update	03:43
aggro	I'm wondering if someone can shed some light on why I can't boot into my usb installer. I did it yesterday, but instead of booting to usb, I guess it couldn't find it and went to network install and errored out. I got a proper usb stick today (was using an sd card with adapter yesterday) and now it says boot loader not found	03:43
brjann	fivetwentysix: try this: sudo service network-manager stop	03:43
brjann	fivetwentysix: then sudo service networking restart	03:44
Arsin	Hey I forgot how to install a program using the "Make" feature can anyone guide me?	03:44
crankharder	where does upstart keep its job definitions in 9.10?	03:44
GeekSquid	Arsin: what are you trying to install?	03:45
crankharder	i think they were kept in /etc/event.d in 8.10, but that's changed... maybe?	03:45
Arsin	GeekSquid: Avira	03:45
brjann	!checkinstall \| Arsin	03:45
ubottu	Arsin: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!	03:45
oso3000	i installed wine, then winetricks... now all my firefox fonts are broken, they look awful... i tried uninstalling "ms core fonts", but they're still broken... what should i do ??	03:46
Arsin	make: *** [avira-guard-applet] Error 1-- is what I get when I "sudo make install"	03:46
DaZ	Arsin: lack of permissions maybe?	03:47
DaZ	aw, nevermind	03:47
Arsin	There is a "make" file in there	03:47
Kamokow	Should I use FAT32 on a 1TB external drive, or should i use NTFS. I was thinking FAT32 is more compatable, but also NTFS has better support for larger drives :-/	03:47
Arsin	I did, make clean, make, make install	03:47
oso3000	Kamokow, ntfs works great with the new driver	03:48
oso3000	i installed wine, then winetricks... now all my firefox fonts are broken, they look awful... i tried uninstalling "ms core fonts", but they're still broken... what should i do ??	03:48
Arsin	Oh I;m getting that error when I run "make"	03:48
Kamokow	oso3000: Okay, thanks, I just have had problems with NTFS before, thought I would ask what anyone else thought.	03:48
hvtuananh	ntfs is working fine now :)	03:48
brjann	Arsin: sounds like a compilation problem, which is really beyond the scope of #ubuntu support	03:49
thecarlhall	I have something that is hanging my machine at shutdown. Is there a way on restart to get the contents shown in the shutdown console?	03:49
r3dp0int	#list	03:49
GeekSquid	Arsin: I am not sure what you would need that for, linux is pretty virus free, I don't know why anyone would pay for virus software for linux... nextly, what brjann just said is true	03:49
hvtuananh	i don't use fat/fat32 anymore (except my thumb drv)	03:49
r3dp0int	!list	03:49
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	03:49
r3dp0int	#ubuntu-ko	03:49
fivetwentysix	brjann: hey sorry got disconnected	03:49
brjann	fivetwentysix: no problem	03:49
fivetwentysix	brjann: everything after my last message i didn't see.	03:50
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay. try sudo service network-manager stop and then sudo service networking restart	03:50
Arsin	GeekSquid: Ya I never have used an anti-virus but a torrent I DL'ed according to the tracker message says "Its a virus" but the file works fine so I'd like to figure out what's going on with that.	03:50
airtonix	i'm getting an error of : "org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files" when i try to use that dbus service via python to print notifications to the screen... i have notification-daemon installed...	03:51
GeekSquid	Arsin: use clam-av ... it is available in the repositories ... it is compiled and it is free	03:51
brjann	!info clamtk \| Arsin	03:51
ubottu	Arsin: clamtk (source: clamtk): graphical front-end for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.15-1 (karmic), package size 123 kB, installed size 684 kB	03:51
Arsin	Ya I guess, I just trust Avira more than I do Clam	03:52
dsnyders	Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?	03:52
GeekSquid	ty brjann	03:52
brjann	GeekSquid: np :)	03:53
oso3000	i installed wine, then winetricks... now all my firefox fonts are broken, they look awful... i tried uninstalling "ms core fonts", but they're still broken... what should i do ??	03:53
brjann	fivetwentysix: the internet does not like you tonight :)	03:53
surjya	while installing xserver-xorg-input-evtouch on command line its showing error as package not found	03:53
fivetwentysix	brjann: actually some kind of hardware issue with my macbookpro	03:53
fivetwentysix	brjann: really annoying	03:53
fivetwentysix	brjann: So did you have any further instructions?	03:54
surjya	do i need to add any repository for this?	03:54
brjann	fivetwentysix: i can imagine. yes i did: try sudo service network-manager stop and then sudo service networking restart	03:54
jmfedlp	hola	03:54
fivetwentysix	brjann: sudo service network-manager restarrt?	03:54
brjann	fivetwentysix: no, first sudo service network-manager stop	03:55
aggro	i'm trying to boot into the ubuntu installer using a usb stick. i keep getting the error message bootmgr is missing. the only fix i see is to use a windows install dvd, but my drive is not currently working. any ideas?	03:55
GeekSquid	surjya: it is in the universe repository ... go to software sources, repoistories, and check universe and reload apt cache	03:55
brjann	fivetwentysix: then sudo service networking restart	03:55
fivetwentysix	brjann: unknown instance	03:55
brjann	fivetwentysix: this is karmic, right?	03:55
fivetwentysix	brjann: yes	03:55
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anom01y	Hi I have ubuntu 9.10, when I do apt-get update it gets to 92% then gives me a input/output error	03:56
brjann	fivetwentysix: sudo service --status-all 2>&1 \| grep -i network	03:56
fivetwentysix	i did --status-list, there is indeed networking below network-manager but they have a ? in front of them	03:56
anom01y	http://pastebin.ca/1816488	03:56
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, that's normal, mine shows that too. nevermind the grep command above then	03:56
brjann	fivetwentysix: sudo service network-manager status	03:57
fivetwentysix	brjann: stop/waiting	03:57
Jordan_U	aggro, How did you try to get the Ubuntu installer onto the usb stick? "bootmgr missing" is a windows error so I don't understand what that has to do with installing Ubuntu from a flash drive.	03:57
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, then sudo service networking restart	03:57
fivetwentysix	brjann: restart: Unknown instance:	03:58
fivetwentysix	brjann: says nothing after Unknown instance:	03:58
Arsin	How can I get Clam-AV to open up?	03:58
aggro	Jordan_U, I am using UNetbootin to create the installer onto the usb drive.	03:58
brjann	fivetwentysix: odd. okay then, sudo service networking start	03:58
fivetwentysix	brjann: networking: stop/waiting	03:58
fivetwentysix	brjann: perhaps i need to start networking manager first?	03:59
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, now look at the end of your syslog and see if there's anything new related to networking, eth0, etc	03:59
GeekSquid	Arsin: instructions here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-clam-antivirus-with-gtk-frontend-gui.html	03:59
Jordan_U	aggro, Are you sure that you are booting from the USB drive when you get that error?	03:59
brjann	fivetwentysix: no, network-manager isn't required for networking	03:59
aggro	Jordan_U, yes, not only have I changed BIOS setting to looks for bootable USB sticks, I am also manually selecting that particular media to boot from using the "boot manager" (mac os term)	04:00
fivetwentysix	brjann: nothing related to networking, or eth0, except the last line says kernel: [ 3771.417051 ] sky2 eth0: disabling interface	04:00
fivetwentysix	brjann: this is 5 minutes ago though	04:00
Ox83	having rootstock issue: sudo project-rootstock/rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --notarball --imagesize 3G hangs at I: Extracting zlib1g...	04:01
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay... was that when you unplugged the cable?	04:01
spiffythekid	where is the universal crontab found in all distributions located?	04:01
fivetwentysix	brjann: when I typed network-manager stop i think	04:01
Ox83	anyone else playing with rootstock on karmic have same issue?	04:01
aggro	Jordan_U, I got it, looks like it didn't like the USB key being in NTFS format. Changed it to FAT32 and now it is indeed booting. thanks for your replies :)	04:02
Jordan_U	aggro, You're welcome :)	04:02
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GeekSquid	spiffythekid: I wouldn't say all distro's but /etc/crontab is the default for ubuntu	04:02
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay. lemme think for a sec	04:02
dre	anybody want to help with getting my wireless going?	04:02
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay	04:03
brjann	fivetwentysix: do you have anything in the file /etc/networking/interfaces ?	04:03
brjann	fivetwentysix: sorry, /etc/network/interfaces	04:03
otis	hey ultimate edition corrupted my images how do i fix this	04:03
fivetwentysix	brjann: auto lo\ni face lo inet loopback	04:04
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, good	04:04
fivetwentysix	brjann: \n = newline, just incase	04:04
dre	network manager says device not ready. its a pcmcia dwl650	04:04
spiffythekid	GeekSquid: you're saying it's just a file within /etc/ not within /ect/cron.daily/ or something like that?	04:05
omni	hm	04:05
brjann	fivetwentysix: got it :) okay, well, let's try another approach. sudo service network-manager start	04:05
fivetwentysix	brjann: started.	04:05
brjann	fivetwentysix: now check syslog, see if it's trying to start up	04:05
GeekSquid	spiffythekid: on my system /etc/crontab is a file which I haven't touched , so yes but more info follows	04:06
brjann	fivetwentysix: it may also be writing to daemon.log if there's nothing there	04:06
otis	ltimate edition corrupted my images how do i fix this	04:06
fivetwentysix	brjann: Like before completes stage 4, no word of stage 5, doesn't even schedule it.	04:06
GeekSquid	!crontab \| spiffythekid	04:06
ubottu	spiffythekid: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm	04:06
bugaloo	guys, I'm using a laptop HP dv2000 and my sound card uses snd_hda_intel module. I'm trying to change some confs on alsa using the model parameter on modprobe (like "modprobe snd_hda_intel model=laptop-hp") trying to fix a sound problem. How can I be sure that the "model" parameter is making any difference?	04:06
otis	ultimate edition corrupted my images how do i fix this	04:06
anom01y	lsemple@TRP:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a output--> dpkg: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Input/output error	04:06
Ox83	otis: if someone knows and has time/interest they will help. spamming wont help.	04:07
fivetwentysix	brjann: the last 2 lines however are: avahi-daemon registering new address record for [mac address] on eth0	04:07
b2p1mp	Im looking for something like vmware for ubuntu...can someone name a good one free one please?	04:07
fivetwentysix	brjann: and kernel etho0: no IPv6 routers present.	04:07
surjya	i can see the xserver-xorg-input-* all modules in synaptic package manager except for evtouch.....	04:07
Figaro11	okay so I installed Ubuntu using wubi installer and I couldn't ever connect to the internet because of a driver issue with my PCI wireless card	04:07
rww	b2p1mp: Virtualbox	04:07
surjya	how can i install it?	04:07
bugaloo	b2p1mp, I know people like to use Xen, but I never got to use it	04:07
b2p1mp	rww ty	04:07
GeekSquid	b2p1mp: vmware is available as is virtualbox as is KVM ,	04:07
brjann	fivetwentysix: anything interesting at the end of kern.log?	04:07
b2p1mp	kvm, Xen, virtual box ok	04:08
GeekSquid	surjya: did you add the universe repository and apt-get update?	04:08
b2p1mp	ty	04:08
surjya	can i please know the command for adding universe repository?	04:09
otis	can any 1 help me	04:09
anom01y	anyone know why I can't apt-get update, or apt-get remove anything (I get an input / output error) ... ?	04:09
paulo	0 0 * * * find /home/paulo/.thumbnails/normal /home/paulo/.thumbnails/fail/gnome-thumbnail-factory -type f -exec rm {} \; # JOB_ID_1 ... Is this crontab entry secure? I've had many problems with rm command in the past, today I'm afraid of it. =\|	04:09
GeekSquid	!anyone \| otis	04:09
ubottu	otis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	04:09
fivetwentysix	brjann: sky2 eth0: enabling interface \n ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready \n sky2 eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control both \n ADDR(NETDEV_CHANGE) eth0 : link becomes ready \n eth0: no IPv6 routers present	04:09
otis	ltimate edition corrupted my images how do i fix this	04:10
brjann	fivetwentysix: hm. "link is not ready" usually means the cable's not plugged in	04:10
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fivetwentysix	brjann: the lights are flashing and everything	04:11
brjann	fivetwentysix: didn't have a thunderstorm last night, did you?	04:11
GeekSquid	surjya: not a command .. open Synaptic Package Manager ... click settings>repositories> make sure the first 4 checkboxes are checked .. then close the repositories window and click reload in synaptic, then search again	04:12
fivetwentysix	brjann: if the wire works when i plug it into my mac book pro, there are no lights on the router wire slots but they flash on the pc's ethernet device	04:12
fivetwentysix	brjann: Also ubuntu recognizes when i unplug the wire	04:13
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, scratch that off the list then :)	04:13
fivetwentysix	brjann: i just unplugged it and it said wire disconnected	04:13
fivetwentysix	brjann: Any ideas?	04:13
brjann	fivetwentysix: thinking and researching some more :)	04:14
fivetwentysix	brjann: I think it's got to be some kind of update that broke my network	04:14
Wubuntu	i'm using Karmic and have a Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera that i can't seem to get to operate. Can anyone assist me with this problem?	04:14
pangolin_rollin	gps on ttyUSB0 shows data but does recognize in gpsdrive. anyone know the solution? thanks	04:14
GeekSquid	fivetwentysix: with the wire plugged in ... open a terminal and ping 66.18.141.211 .. see if you get a response from the server	04:14
pangolin_rollin	**does't	04:14
fivetwentysix	brjann: Network is unreachable!	04:14
fivetwentysix	brjann: lol	04:14
brjann	fivetwentysix: you can check that in synaptic, under File > History. it'll show you what packages have been installed and when	04:14
fivetwentysix	brjann: guess not, last entry was on the 18th of feb	04:15
brjann	fivetwentysix: alright. let's try something else	04:16
brjann	fivetwentysix: what's the IP of the laptop you're on now? probably 192.168.x.x	04:16
wfelipe	hi, how can I change the routing table in Linux? in order to decide which gateway should I use based on the source address	04:16
fivetwentysix	brjann: 192.168.1.103	04:16
fivetwentysix	brjann: you want me to ping it right, but theres no connection to the network from ubuntu to the router	04:17
brjann	brjann: now, that wasn't me :)	04:17
brjann	fivetwentysix: whoops, talking to myself. no, that wasn't me :)	04:17
jazusa03	is this channel for internet related problems only? sry im kind of new to this	04:17
brjann	fivetwentysix: alright, let's try giving your problem computer a static ip	04:17
fivetwentysix	brjann: ok	04:18
otis	ultimate edition corrupted my images how do i fix this	04:18
fivetwentysix	brjann: How-to? I actually always wanted to know how to do this.	04:18
brjann	fivetwentysix: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.222 netmask 255.255.255.0 up	04:18
brjann	fivetwentysix: this is a temporary assignment, it wouldn't last across reboots	04:18
Jon-	I am having an issue with an HP F4180 printer, accessing through an SAMBA share from a Windows2000 PC using karmic. Issue: The HP F4100 series driver only causes my printer to spin-up and not actually print when sending a job [probably due to the job not being sent properly and the printer rejecting it]. Any ideas? Please help. Thank you.	04:19
pangolin_rollin	fixing fprint reader??? fingerprint reader shows in device list but fprint demo doesn't recognize. fingerprint gui shows device but doesn't accept data?	04:19
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay did that followed by service network-manager restart	04:19
brjann	fivetwentysix: no, we're trying without network-manager now ;)	04:20
rww	otis: Ultimate Edition isn't a supported Ubuntu derivative, you'd have to ask them about it.	04:20
fivetwentysix	brjann: stop networking manager?	04:20
brjann	fivetwentysix: network-manager will try and assume control of the device	04:20
brjann	fivetwentysix: mhm, sudo service network-manager stop	04:20
brjann	fivetwentysix: then again: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.222 netmask 255.255.255.0 up	04:21
fivetwentysix	avahi registers aedddress record for 192.168.1.222 on eth0.IPv4	04:21
fivetwentysix	brjann: link becomes ready	04:21
brjann	fivetwentysix: fantastic. now ping 192.168.1.103	04:22
fivetwentysix	brjann: then stops at no IPv6 routers present	04:22
ryanprior	What's a good way to get rid of lots of the useless fonts in Ubuntu?	04:22
brjann	fivetwentysix: that's fine, ipv4 is all we care about now	04:22
fivetwentysix	brjann: bingo	04:22
fivetwentysix	brjann: can ping	04:22
Jon-	See previous comment : is this purely a driver issue, or can I do something about this?	04:22
chd	I get this error when I try to play music in rhythmbox The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder plugin which is not installed.	04:22
otis	how do i fix corrupt images	04:22
brjann	fivetwentysix: alright. your problem is clearly not hardware related -- it seems like network-manager is failing to get a dynamic IP from your router	04:22
jazusa03	I'm having trouble getting Compiz Fusion and Emerald to work properly, Emerald will theme the outside of the window, but the inside (text/window background/scrollbars ect) is still the same as the original GTK theme, I have ran both by Terminal and they don't display any errors, any advice?	04:23
fivetwentysix	brjann: yup	04:23
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brjann	fivetwentysix: do you have any sort of limitations enabled on what mac addresses are allowed to get IPs from the router or anything like that?	04:23
crdlb	jazusa03: that is perfectly normal	04:23
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rww	ubottu: emerald \| jazusa03	04:23
ubottu	jazusa03: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.	04:23
fivetwentysix	brjann: it's a linksys wireless router	04:24
fivetwentysix	brjann: and i don't think so, i think this is a client side issue because it works with my macbook pro	04:24
otis	how do i fix corrupt images	04:24
jazusa03	I guess i will search for an alternative to Emerald then	04:25
Jon-	fivetwentysix: Have you tried restarting the router/renewing the DHCP record on the router?	04:25
pangolin_rollin	anyone see this message?	04:25
DJ_HaMsTa	why does ubuntu not shut down the monitors backlight after being idle ?	04:25
DJ_HaMsTa	it shuts down the panel or makes everything black but the backlight is still on	04:25
crdlb	jazusa03: regardless of the decorator you use, the contents of your apps will look the same	04:26
fivetwentysix	Jon- yeah	04:26
kinja-sheep	DJ_HaMsTa: Your mileage may vary. It works fine for me. My monitor goes to standby mode.	04:26
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, since we've been mucking with services and IPs and such, would you reboot your problem computer so we can start fresh looking at network-manager specifically?	04:26
fivetwentysix	brjann: btw i don't have internet access on ubuntu, however i can connect to the router admin page	04:26
brjann	fivetwentysix: right, that's because we didn't set up DNS, just IP	04:27
fivetwentysix	brjann: alright rebooting	04:27
DJ_HaMsTa	kinja-sheep, what is this your mileage may vary analogy ?	04:27
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brjann	fivetwentysix: let me know when you're ready to go	04:27
kinja-sheep	DJ_HaMsTa: Meaning not everything will works for everybody because of different machines.	04:27
brjann	fivetwentysix: meanwhile, afk two minutes :)	04:28
fivetwentysix	brjann: ready	04:28
DJ_HaMsTa	ah	04:28
DJ_HaMsTa	got it	04:28
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay ill go for a smoke	04:28
DJ_HaMsTa	how can i fix it? lol	04:28
slimjimflim	anybody know how to watch veoh w/o wine?	04:28
kinja-sheep	DJ_HaMsTa: I imagine you should try configuring few things. I used to have a launcher that will push me into standby immediately (rather than idling). I'm trying to find it.	04:28
andruk	rsync seems to be transferring the entirety of each file im trying to transfer, instead of transferring the deltas. is this normal?	04:29
DJ_HaMsTa	thank you	04:29
Jon-	chd: Google is your friend. Try: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-rhythmbox-not-playing-mp3-in-ubuntu-karmic.html or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in terminal should also do the trick.	04:29
Jon-	Still having an issue with an HP F4180 printer, accessing through an SAMBA share from a Windows2000 PC using karmic. Issue: The HP F4100 series driver only causes my printer to spin-up and not actually print when sending a job [probably due to the job not being sent properly and the printer rejecting it]. Any ideas/anything I can do, or is this just compatibility fail? Please help. Thank you.	04:29
FloodBot2	Jon-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:30
chd	Jon-, I've sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to no avail	04:30
chd	Jon-, I'll check out your link, thanky ou	04:30
brjann	!google > Jon-	04:31
ubottu	Jon-, please see my private message	04:31
slimjimflim	how to veoh?????	04:31
kinja-sheep	DJ_HaMsTa: Try "xset dpms force off" but that should get same result for you though.	04:31
ryanrhee90	hi all. I have a server install of ubuntu that's been so hacked that i really just want to start over. the thing is, it's a dedicated server and i don't have physical access to it. Getting an IP-KVM would cost money. I basically want to re-install the OS without killing the OS. (I.e. just removing all apps and reverting everything back to 'factory settings' without having to remove the OS.) How can I accomplish this?	04:31
Kristopher1	Hey so I had ubuntu karmic installed, and then went ahead with installing windows7 on another harddisk. I am in a livecd right now, how do I restore my grub2 (giving it windows options as well)	04:31
kinja-sheep	DJ_HaMsTa: Perhaps "xset dpms force off && sleep 3" and don't touch anything for short. You get black screen.	04:31
Jon-	chd: If you have further issue PM me	04:32
DJ_HaMsTa	kk	04:32
DJ_HaMsTa	be back in 4 mins lol	04:32
ryanrhee90	Kristopher1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows	04:32
rww	Kristopher1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD	04:32
Kristopher1	thanks ryanrhee90, rww	04:33
gantrixx	Did Ubuntu just upgrade to Thunderbird 3?	04:33
brjann	fivetwentysix: back when you are	04:33
fivetwentysix	brjann: back	04:33
kinja-sheep	gantrixx: I don't think so. In Lucid, it will. Also, if it is not, use mozilla's daily ppa for that one.	04:34
fivetwentysix	brjann: by the way, thank you so much for your support so far, really appreciate it	04:34
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/	04:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: alright. right click on the (still spinning?) network manager icon and go to Edit Connections	04:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: not a problem :)	04:34
gantrixx	My TB2 has gone away	04:34
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay	04:34
gantrixx	and TB3 is here now	04:34
fivetwentysix	brjann: add new connection right?	04:34
brjann	fivetwentysix: you should be on the Wired tab; is there anything there already?	04:34
fivetwentysix	brjann: auto ethernet only	04:35
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, that's hopefully the one that used to work. click that and click edit...	04:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: no i deleted the one that used to work but it didnt have any special settings in it anyways	04:35
demonspork	I have a 5.1 speaker setup with Ubuntu 9.10. VLC media player doesn't allow me to hear voices no matter what I use, it doesn't output that to any of the speaker channels	04:35
ryanrhee90	anyone? resetting ubuntu to original settings without killing the OS? :(	04:35
fivetwentysix	brjann: okay so i clicked edit	04:36
brjann	fivetwentysix: ah, okay. so we're editing the only one that was left now, right?	04:36
fivetwentysix	brjann: yes	04:36
pangolin_rollin	gps shows data under # cat /dev/ttyUSB0 but does not show up in gpsdrive!!?? reasons?	04:36
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay. we'll go through the tabs one by one based on what mine currently says :)	04:36
slimjimflim	anybody ever figured out how to watch flash movies on veoh.com without resorting to wine?	04:36
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: that would be possible, what part is hacked ... the os or the server datum, also what was it serving	04:36
mbrigdan	Anyone know of a music player similar to Amarok 1.4? Amarok2 is crippled, and I can't stand using it.	04:36
brjann	fivetwentysix: connect automatically checked, mac is whatever, mtu automatic, available to all users checked	04:37
kinja-sheep	ryanrhee90: A such thing really does exist? I would imagine it is not. (at least not entirely).	04:37
fivetwentysix	brjann: next	04:37
slimjimflim	mbrigdan: vlc and kmplayer are nice	04:37
fivetwentysix	brjann: 802.1x security	04:37
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid, the server is doing a bunch of stuff - DNS, OpenVPN, Apache, mail+imap, LAMP, etc, etc.	04:37
brjann	fivetwentysix: you may want to open up a terminal, run ifconfig, and make sure the mac address displayed matched the HWaddr for eth0	04:37
pangolin_rollin	testing.. anyone see this message?	04:38
Jon-	mbrigdan: VLC is my favourite, but it lacks some big library + music killer support. Sort of a "just works" media player that has slowly added on features like that.	04:38
fivetwentysix	brjann: done	04:38
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay. 802.1x security unchecked	04:38
fivetwentysix	brjann: IPv4 settings	04:38
brjann	fivetwentysix: method: automatic	04:39
mbrigdan	Jon-, VLC is one of my favourite media players too (all my video), but it doesn't have anything in terms of managing my music library, or transferring songs to devices	04:39
RfooTfoo	can someone help me locate my .htaccess file that is active? I need to change the password and I cant locate it! lol	04:39
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: I'd start by backing up everything ... .. Is this a LTS version?	04:39
fivetwentysix	brjann: i thought we want to set an ip?	04:39
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: the OS actually came with a custom kernel. i didn't realize this until i noticed that openvpn wouldn't load any kernel modules. I changed the kernel to the LTS. Basically, this was my first time using Ubuntu so everything on here isn't quite right. Now that I kind of know my way around, Yes, it is an LTS version	04:39
brjann	fivetwentysix: we can, after we've verified the settings and tried dhcp again	04:39
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: Also, everything has already been backed up.	04:39
fivetwentysix	brjann: still doent work	04:39
brjann	fivetwentysix: we're not there yet :)	04:39
brjann	fivetwentysix: go back into editing that connection, on the ipv4 tab	04:40
mbrigdan	slimjimflim, both of those are nice, but not quite what I'm going for. I'm looking for more an iTunes replacement, which Amarok 1.4 did quite well	04:40
fivetwentysix	brjann: and?	04:40
brjann	fivetwentysix: click the routes button at the bottom and ensure that it's empty and the two boxes are unchecked	04:40
fivetwentysix	brjann: yup	04:41
brjann	fivetwentysix: okay, onto the ipv6 tab. should be method: ignore	04:41
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: I'd wait until the middle of April ... the next LTS is coming out ... everything would be updated, .. then you'd prolly have some fixing to do, but it would be a far cry from a in place reinstallation	04:41
harisund	I have installed karmic-server, and I have setup my eth0 to be static. Yet, in my /var/log/syslog I keep seeing messages CONSTANTLY of eth1 trying to acquire an IP through DHCP from my router (and acquiring too) .. Why does it happen?	04:41
fivetwentysix	brjann: yup	04:41
brjann	fivetwentysix: alright, click apply.	04:42
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: Alright, that sounds fine. However, when I upgrade this coming april, wouldn't I still need to ... 'wipe everything down'? (remove everything & start over)?	04:42
fivetwentysix	brjann: still not working	04:42
brjann	fivetwentysix: bummer. alright, static ip then	04:42
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/	04:42
Iron_Man	hello	04:42
fivetwentysix	brjann: ok	04:42
brjann	fivetwentysix: back to the ipv4 tab	04:42
Iron_Man	i need some assistance	04:42
Iron_Man	linux newbie	04:42
arand	!ask \| Iron_Man	04:43
ubottu	Iron_Man: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	04:43
Iron_Man	my laptop battery is not charging for some reason	04:43
brjann	fivetwentysix: method: manual. click add, insert an address like 192.168.1.222, netmask 255.255.255.0, and gateway 192.168.1.1 (i'm assuming that's your router's IP)	04:43
Iron_Man	i found a package on that will help me make it work again	04:44
thesoprano08	#ubuntu-pa	04:44
jmq	noob question. How would I download a zip file from some url in the console?	04:44
Iron_Man	but the file is on .ISO	04:44
Iron_Man	how do i use an .ISO file	04:44
brjann	fivetwentysix: for DNS, if your router can act as a DNS server, put its ip; otherwise, you can use google's public DNS service: 8.8.8.8	04:44
arand	jmq: wget is one option	04:44
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: if you upgrade from LTS 8.04 to LTS 10.04, just about every file on the server is going to be replaced, except for your data, essentially cleaning it too, I;d change some passwords, clean up some SQL tables and get the latest DNS data, but other than that, I think you'd be good to go	04:44
Iron_Man	arand	04:44
dsnyders	Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?	04:45
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: so when i upgrade to the next LTS, what would happen to the config files?	04:45
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fivetwentysix	brjann: google has a dns service?	04:45
arand	Iron_Man: you should be able to right-click, open with, archive mounter.	04:45
brjann	fivetwentysix: yep, since december	04:45
fivetwentysix	brjann: wow, is it me or does it even perform faster than my isp's dns server	04:46
brjann	fivetwentysix: search domains you can leave blank	04:46
fivetwentysix	brjann: itworks btw	04:46
brjann	fivetwentysix: probably not you, ISP DNSes are notoriously bad ;)	04:46
brjann	fivetwentysix: great! i have no idea what's wrong with DHCP unfortunately	04:46
islington	where does amarok save its podcasts?	04:47
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: that is what you have to make sure to backup .. some would be replaced, others appended, but you would still have a working environment from which to reconfigure everything	04:47
brjann	fivetwentysix: but if you're happy with static, i'm happy	04:47
Iron_Man	arand, i will try it now, hold on a sec	04:47
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: i'd actually want ALL my config files deleted, if possible. that's essentially what i'm going for here :)	04:47
NotTooSmart	ls -lh /crypt/files; read sent over ssh returns: 192.168.1.3: command not found, any ideas. I was told ; read stops the window from closing so the command shold stat the dir but it doesn't	04:47
pangolin_rollin	gps shows device input under # cat /dev/ttyUSB0 but doesn't show up when running gpsdrive?? reasons?	04:48
Iron_Man	Arand, i did it , but how do i use it now	04:48
arand	Iron_Man: what are the contents of it?	04:48
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/ I've been helping a lot of people on here while waiting haha	04:49
brjann	fivetwentysix: it's possible someone in #gnome could help you troubleshoot networkmanager specifically, since it's a gnome project now, if you're interested	04:49
Iron_Man	it has a bunch of folders	04:49
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: define config files ... /etc/resolv.conf is a config file, but you'd never want to change it - if you did you would loose networking, same for /etc/network/interfaces ... get my point ...	04:49
Iron_Man	either way it seems that would not fix my issue	04:49
Iron_Man	arand,	04:50
Iron_Man	my battery keeps showing a message that is discharging	04:50
Iron_Man	but i just bought that battery like a month ago	04:50
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: oh yeah, haha, sorry. i meant application config files - as in httpd.conf, or php.ini, etc, etc	04:50
Iron_Man	and i was looking for an application that will allow me to test my battery	04:51
* pangolin_rollin Waves hello		04:51
DJ	hey yall	04:51
dsnyders	Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?	04:52
fivetwentysix	brjann: that's okay, thank you so much	04:52
brjann	fivetwentysix: you're welcome :)	04:52
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/	04:53
pangolin_rollin	anyone have gps experience?	04:53
fivetwentysix	brjann: Hey would you know how to overwrite the boot loader for my pc at home, I want to install linux on it since i got 3 harddrives, 2 of which are empty, however it's a dell xps 9000 and I cant seem to be able to boot from cd :-(	04:54
airtonix	!enter \| Iron_Man	04:55
ubottu	Iron_Man: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	04:55
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brjann	fivetwentysix: and you can't reorder the boot devices in the BIOS setup?	04:55
arand	Iron_Man: If you simply run "gnome-power-statistics" from the alt+F2 prompt you should et some battery info, provided they are detected correctly	04:55
fivetwentysix	brjann: There is no bios setup	04:55
gilbertthebrain	Could someone tell me if Ubuntu is DEB or rpm based?	04:56
MrPockets	man	04:56
MrPockets	my nutty install went and changed a buncha stuff to crazy language in a crazy font	04:56
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: for httpd.conf blanking it would be fine, whereas deleting it would be a bad idea, as for php.ini it will be replaced by the next version of php4 or 5 ... apache is a server .. php is a set of libraries that allow for parsing of php data, I don't consider them applications, I consider the webapps that exist within the webroot the application and the infrastructure that allows that to be served is the LAMP stack ... follow?	04:56
Jon-	fivetwentysix: There is... no.. BIOS setup?	04:57
brjann	fivetwentysix: really? i've never seen a dell that didn't have a BIOS setup you could get to by wailing on F2 while the logo was onscreen	04:57
airtonix	gilbertthebrain, ubuntu is based on debian...	04:57
rww	gilbertthebrain: deb	04:57
brjann	fivetwentysix: similarly i've always been able to get to a boot options prompt by hitting F11	04:58
gilbertthebrain	thanks	04:58
ryanrhee90	hrm. okay. well web apps are independent, i can just remove their directory. I'm talking more like ... apache itself, for example. i'd rather just delete any trace of apache2 on my machine and re-install it using apt-get, cuz i'm almost certain i've hacked it to the point of no return. same with ... mysql. or... shorewall, bind9, etc etc	04:58
DarkSpirit	Hey	04:58
sloopy	where is the /etc/rc.d dir hidden in 9.10?	04:58
DarkSpirit	Which are the big Linux Oses?	04:58
DarkSpirit	OSes?	04:58
fivetwentysix	brjann: Well either it doesn't recognize my keyboard early enough for me to go into the bios menu or it just doesn't have one; I've tried rebooting hundreds of times.	04:58
* pangolin_rollin waves		04:59
fivetwentysix	brjann: razer arctosa keyboard	04:59
brjann	DarkSpirit: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major	04:59
DarkSpirit	thanks	04:59
dsnyders	sloopy, /etc/rc*	04:59
brjann	fivetwentysix: not familiar with it. i'd say you'd probably be better off finding a cheap keyboard to let you into the boot menu than trying to jack with your boot record so you can install linux :) however, you could also try wubi and install from windows	05:00
sloopy	dsnyders, yes the 0-6 dir's are there but no rc.d	05:00
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: hrm... for example, i'm guessing that "apt-get remove apache2" won't delete httpd.conf. if i do apt-get install apache2 after removing, i'm guessing that the configuration files will still be there. true?	05:00
brjann	!wubi \| fivetwentysix	05:00
ubottu	fivetwentysix: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.	05:00
pangolin_rollin	anyone have an extensive knowledge of either GPS or fingerprint readers? i need help with both	05:00
dsnyders	sloopy, there is no rc.d	05:00
pangolin_rollin	!	05:00
sloopy	dsnyders, so where to put stuff that usually goes in it?	05:01
fivetwentysix	brjann: I don't want to install something where it doesn't give me full hardware support	05:01
fivetwentysix	brjann: i rather just install it on a VM	05:01
fivetwentysix	brjann: if that's the case	05:01
Jon-	ubottu: You guys still recommend Wubi? I remember like 3-4 months ago I was a Ubuntu green dude, installed with Wubi, worked great, week later, GRUB update, boot loader was SCREWED. What an oversight =/	05:01
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:01
dsnyders	sloopy, It's been a while. What normally goes in rc.d	05:02
fivetwentysix	lol @ ubottu	05:02
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/ Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha	05:02
fivetwentysix	!lol \| fivetwentysix	05:02
ubottu	fivetwentysix, please see my private message	05:02
Jon-	I like talking to bots	05:02
sloopy	dsnyders, yeah its been years since i have had to update my router... i dont play with the low level stuff anymore :'(	05:02
GeekSquid	ryanrhee90: I don't believe in no return .. but anyway .. if you wanted to truly get rid of the lamp stack (for instance) sudo tasksel remove --purge lamp-server would really get rid of everything, then i'd be just a matter of reinstalling the lamp stack, ... your example is ok, however it doesn't get rid of the configs unless you do sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 ... follow?	05:02
duncanidaho1	Why does DESKTOP DRAPES not startup when my computer restarts? It is listed in my startup applications. It is also set to do so in its preferences.	05:02
ryanrhee90	GeekSquid: Purge! okay. i'll do that. thanks! :)	05:03
arand	Jon-: I have never used wubi nor do I think much of it, I would say if you have a choice, go with a dualboot instead.	05:03
Jon-	arand: After GRUB blew up on me I dual-booted. Seriously though, if Ubuntu is supposed to work for my Grandma and a simple recommended update blows up Wubi because of some mix up with GRUB... well, that just sucks.	05:04
seanbrystone	good luck finding the perfect OS	05:05
GeekSquid	Jon-: type /msg ubottu !gender ... you might get a kick out of that ... also http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi is ubottu's database for your enjoyment	05:05
arand	Jon-: Bugs always suck, but there is little avoiding the neither, such is life.	05:05
dsnyders	sloopy, I think the stuff goes in the various rc*.d folders, and possibly the /etc/event.d folder.	05:05
fivetwentysix	brjann: Can I install wubi and make it use a whole harddrive to itself to increase performance?	05:05
linucks	Hi there, I am confused over this new grub.cnf, I need to add a kernel option however there seems to be no menu.lst file and the grub.cnf is only script. Can anyone help?	05:05
Jon-	arand: True, but when was the last time a Microsoft patches caused BSODs? Last patch date, yes, but that was from a rootkit not letting it modify a file, haha ^_^	05:06
sloopy	dsnyders, only symlinks go into rc*.d	05:06
arand	linucks: editing is done in /etc/default/grub	05:06
brjann	fivetwentysix: apparently yes, via LVPM. I've never used wubi or LVPM, though :) http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html	05:06
dsnyders	sloopy, so where do the symlinks point?	05:06
Jon-	arand: My point is Ubuntu really needs more stability before it's ready for the average user IMO, I'm not bashing, just saying, it's a power-user OS	05:06
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/ Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha	05:07
arand	linucks: use "sudo update-grub" to propagate the to the actual grub.cfg	05:07
sloopy	dsnyders, to files in /etc/init.d	05:07
linucks	arand: ok, where in /etc/default/grub do I add a kernel option? I am new to grub2	05:07
fivetwentysix	Does wubi work on Win 7 64bit ?	05:07
sloopy	dsnyders, which are where the actual startup control scripts reside	05:07
Jon-	fivetwentysix: It worked with RC1 for me, so I assume it will for you as well. I'd really recommend dual-boot though.	05:08
jrtayloriv	Why would I use Ubuntu firefox addons rather than just installing them directly through firefox?	05:08
dsnyders	sloopy, so I guess that's where your /etc/rc.d files are too.	05:08
linucks	arand: would it happen to be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""?	05:08
Jon-	jrtayloriv: I think they are the same thing.	05:08
axisys	how do I setup a user with autologin ? put ubuntu on my gf's laptop .. she prefers not to enter passwd during login.. it is secure.. no open port except ssh w/ limit and there is no inbound route to my home	05:08
arand	linucks: kernel option? like "acpi=off" or "vga=868"? In that case it is at the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line (where there is already the quiet and splash options)	05:09
jrtayloriv	Jon- Why does Ubuntu team maintain these packages then? Surely they wouldn't create a package for no reason ....	05:09
Jon-	axisys: System -> Administration -> Login screen [in there]	05:09
fivetwentysix	Jon-: I'm having trouble booting from cd	05:09
linucks	arand: i8042.nomux=1	05:09
sloopy	dsnyders, nope, rc.d was for scripts for simple tasks that were started/stopped/etc by the scripts in /etc/init.d	05:09
Jon-	fivetwentysix: You the BIOS guy? Tap F2 when computer powers on set CD to boot before hard-drive in boot order	05:09
Jon-	Printer issue, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/386073/ Please, someone at least tell me it's only a compatibility issue so I can frown and move on haha	05:10
arand	linucks: that would go in there yes (what I mentioned)	05:10
fivetwentysix	Jon-: That's the whole problem	05:10
linucks	arand: ok thanks :)	05:10
Jon-	jrtayloriv: I've used Ubuntu for 1 month. Don't ask me. :P	05:10
Ghost1227	much as i hate to admit it, i need help... i haven't configured X in ages but i now find myself needing to use an ubuntu box that is forcing 800x600 resolution on an i915	05:10
axisys	Jon-: thanks	05:11
hamza	no system devices (partitions, usb, cd/dvd drive) are showing in my nautilus, but they show in disk utility. now im just wondering if it's hopeless and i have to reinstall...	05:11
arand	fivetwentysix: Depending on system everything from Del, F1-F2, F10-F12 is possible ways to get into bios	05:11
Jon-	fivetwentysix: BIOS setup is usually F1, F2 or DEL. I usually tap all three in rapid succession until it pops up.	05:11
fivetwentysix	Jon-: ill try when i gethome	05:11
sloopy	Jon-, looks like you are probly sharing it as a raw device and ubuntu is sending PS pages to it...	05:12
seanbrystone	isnt F10 the bios on the newer HP's?	05:12
sloopy	Jon-, on the win2k machine look at the raw file in the spool and see if it has a PS header or binary data...	05:12
rww	I tend to just bash function keys randomly until the setup screen appears.	05:13
ja660k	is there a win95 emulator like dosbox?	05:13
ardchoille	rww: hehe	05:13
Wubuntu	i'm using Karmic Koala 9.10, and have a Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera that i can't seem to get to operate. Can anyone assist me with this problem?	05:13
Jon-	sloopy: I can access the drive remotely from here, what path is the spool in generally?	05:13
arand	jrtayloriv: Using the ubuntu firefox addons makes them use the package management system, and hence will be easier to manage (depending on your preference)	05:13
arand	!wine \| ja660k	05:13
ubottu	ja660k: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	05:13
dsnyders	sloopy, on my fedora box, rc.d contains init.d and the various rc*.d folders. On my ubuntu those are all in /etc directly.	05:13
sloopy	Jon-, i dont know for win2k, on win xp it is... uh give me a sec	05:13
dsnyders	sloopy, what exactly are you after?	05:14
axisys	how do I disable `laptop mode' .. it is keep going to suspend mode if the lid is down	05:14
axisys	got it! power management	05:14
Jon-	axisys: You can access power options from System -> Preferences -> Power Management. Change the settings and click the make default [or whatever it is] button	05:14
axisys	Jon-: thanks	05:14
Jon-	haha	05:15
sloopy	dsnyders, i upgraded my router machine from 8.04 to 9.10, i tried firestarter for the FW but it is sucking up 100% cpu on one of the cores...	05:15
jrtayloriv	arand, Thanks	05:15
sloopy	dsnyders, so i am going back to just using a iptables script i made...	05:15
sensae	I'm having problems with mdadm and RAID - it seems like it won't write a superblock to my raid devices	05:15
GeekSquid	sloopy: you are so much better off using iptables or ufw, firestarter is a memory/cpu hog	05:16
sloopy	dsnyders, and i am used to sysv init, as it was in the past (i used to use FC back in the day...)	05:16
dsnyders	sloopy, so you want to know where to put the iptables script?	05:16
sloopy	GeekSquid, yeah i said that ;')	05:16
alcala	Hello!! =)	05:16
sloopy	dsnyders, yeah i just made a rc.d dir in /etc	05:16
brjann	!hi \| alcala	05:16
ubottu	alcala: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	05:16
rothsdad	hi	05:17
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Jon-	sloopy I found C:\WINNT\system32\spool\PRINTERS it contains .SHD and .SPL files. What would you like me to check?	05:17
MrPockets	what the HECK would make the menu font in certain applications different?	05:17
GeekSquid	MrPockets: like what application?	05:17
alcala	does anybody has any experience on configuring WEBCAM on any msn client??	05:18
MrPockets	the file menus in OpenOffice Writer, and all the font in VirtualBox	05:18
MrPockets	but like, Evolituon, FF, xChat, all gine	05:18
MrPockets	fine*	05:18
b2p1mp	im such a noob, my win7 desktop had the printer attached windows shared(LPT1), on my laptop i goto printers, add under Network choose Windows Samba then input the info to locate the printer.... i cant seem to locate it though.	05:18
sloopy	Jon-, i dont rem which, use a good text editor and open one and see if there is a PS header in it...	05:18
MrPockets	all system fonts are fine..	05:18
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b2p1mp	im on 910 ubuntu	05:18
Jon-	sloopy vim to the rescue one sec	05:19
sloopy	Jon-, best thing since sliced bread ;')	05:19
b2p1mp	cant seem to reach the printer attached to lpt1 on my windows machine	05:19
Guest58560	hello all can i ask a question	05:19
sloopy	Guest58560, you just did...	05:19
dsnyders	sloopy, judging from the readme in /etc/init.d, you should put it in /etc/init.d and then run update-rc.d	05:19
Guest58560	fair enough...	05:19
brjann	!ask \| Guest58560	05:19
ubottu	Guest58560: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:19
Jon-	spool Hmm, just seems like binaries to me, gedit can't find proper encoding and VIM displays garbage or nothing	05:20
alcala	can anybody help me to decide on what webcam I can buy that is compatible with a messenger in ubuntu?	05:20
dsnyders	Has anybody gotten kpovmodeler working in 9.04?	05:20
Guest58560	ok..so just installed ubuntu had free space of 10gb on drive formated it as Fat to store music..rebooted drive not seen data ?gone?	05:20
dsnyders	Guest58560, Is the drive mounted?	05:21
brjann	alcala: here's a list of webcams that the Free Software Foundation likes: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras	05:21
Jon-	sloopy Hmm, just seems like binaries to me, gedit can't find proper encoding and VIM displays garbage or nothing [I called you "spool". Ironic fail.]	05:21
Guest58560	and partitions are not mounted automatically which is odd to me	05:21
GeekSquid	alcala: look here http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2008/03/28/webcams-that-just-work-with-ubuntu/	05:21
sloopy	dsnyders, no, that isnt the right place for the script... init.d is where the script with the info for update-rc needs is stored...	05:21
alcala	brjann thanks	05:21
DanaG	hmm, is it a known issue that the PowerPC LiveCD is 705 megabytes, and thus too big to fit on a CD?	05:22
brjann	alcala: take a look at the link GeekSquid said too :)	05:22
alcala	geeksquid thanks	05:22
AgentGreen	hi everyone	05:22
sloopy	Jon-, yeah then win2k is probly sharing it as a raw specific printer as opposed to a generic PS printer...	05:22
cyberbluntz	OK, so I'm trying to play this dvd I picked up from the redbox, when I put it it it comes up with an autolauncher, and asks me what to do . I select the movie player, and when It attempts to launch it gives and error "no URI handler implemented for "dvd"."	05:22
AgentGreen	anyone not to busy or frustrated to help A Ubuntu desktop installation problem ?	05:23
GeekSquid	DanaG: please ask that question in #ubuntu-powerpc	05:23
Jon-	sloopy: AKA, Windows-share only? [as the driver is transmitted to the box when it tries to access it]?	05:23
Jon-	sloopy: It works with zero-config for XP and 7	05:24
sloopy	Jon-, yeah that sounds about right... i am not really sure, as i have been linux (and unix) prodominate for ~15 years...	05:24
sloopy	Jon-, and i have seen this issue with samba... i know how to fix it in samba but not windows	05:24
Jon-	sloopy: I'm 20... you make me feel young ^_^. Out of curiosity what's the samba fix?	05:25
jmfedlp	#ubuntu-es	05:25
AgentGreen	I get a blank screen after ubuntu bootloader? lets me select	05:25
sensae	I'm trying to start my raid array with mdadm and I get device or resource busy	05:25
sloopy	Jon-, samba is the app that runs on linux (and other os's) for sharing things in the MS way...	05:25
sensae	lsof shows nothing using either drives / partitions	05:25
Jon-	sloopy: Oh. I thought it was the name for the actual protocol used by Windows, nevermind. I see the difference now	05:26
sloopy	Jon-, the protocol is called 'smb'	05:26
pangolin_rollin	hello? testing connection please respond back?	05:26
AgentGreen	hello	05:26
GeekSquid	pangolin_rollin: working	05:27
pangolin_rollin	Geeksquid: thank you	05:27
Jon-	sloopy: Yep. I should have known that. I'm very solid on Windows boxes, only have about a month of ubuntu under my belt now. Thanks for the help, I guess I am screwed =/	05:27
rothsdad	、	05:27
sloopy	Jon-, problem is fixable, i just dont know how...	05:28
sloopy	Jon-, besides isnt win2k EOL?	05:28
AgentGreen	awww bummer all the documentation and searching with no luck	05:29
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: Laptop?	05:29
hamza	noone knows why i cant mount any of my drives?	05:29
AgentGreen	no netbook installled awsome it loaded so well on my eeepc I decided to install on my desktop also not the remix ofcourse but the new 9.10	05:30
Jon-	sloopy: Win2k is in "extended" support, no new features are planned but security patches and vulnerabilities are still addressed.. those are dropped in like 2012?	05:30
AgentGreen	and i just get a blank screeen and my refresh rate or resolution in my card	05:30
AgentGreen	goes nuts	05:31
sloopy	Jon-, ahhh, i just know someone who was telling me 2003 server is going to be EOL this year, so i figured 2k was well past EOL	05:31
Jon-	sloopy It's quite an old PC, it really wouldn't run XP without an upgrade. It has the printer attached just out of convinence, no room by the XP box [my main box, this is a laptop]	05:31
alcala	WEBCAM configuring is hard? I mean u should pick a compatible one, configure it, and see if u have luck making it work!	05:31
theadmin	What does TTY stand for, actually?	05:31
sloopy	theadmin, TeleTYpe	05:32
jazusa03	compiz has broken, when i load it, all the windows go blank i tried to run it in the console but couldnt read an error message	05:32
theadmin	sloopy: :/	05:32
mengu	hi. when i try to play some mp3s i get this error: "GstMPEGAudioParse: No valid frames found before end of stream" why is that? they were working great on win?	05:32
chd	how do I mount iso's with ubuntu	05:32
issaec	hola	05:32
axisys	chd: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt	05:33
sloopy	ubottu, iso \| chd	05:33
ubottu	chd: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	05:33
AgentGreen	no idea's anyone ?	05:33
issaec	which is the room of Ubuntu in spanish¿?	05:34
issaec	xD	05:34
Jon-	sloopy Oh crappp Windows 2000 extended support ends 13/07/2010. I guess I am hounding my parents to upgrade then, that's sort of critical and I refuse to have an easily compromised box on the network	05:34
brjann	!es \| issaec	05:34
ubottu	issaec: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	05:34
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: there are a number of considerations... it is probably your video card ... at boot loader screen . press ESC after post ... go to recovery mode and run the xfix then reboot and see if that helped	05:34
sloopy	Jon-, replace 2k with ubuntu	05:34
AgentGreen	thank you very much geek squid	05:34
Johny	HELLPPP!!!!	05:34
AgentGreen	this is from cd boot ?	05:35
Jon-	sloopy: It's my moms computer	05:35
sloopy	Jon-, mom can learn ubuntu...	05:35
Johny	i uninstalled ubuntu but i cant seem to uninstall GRUB Loader	05:35
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: fresh start ... when you get to Loading Grub .. Press esc ... go to the recovery cosole and run the xfix	05:35
Johny	i cant boot to my XP machine :(	05:35
Jon-	sloopy: I've had ubuntu for a month and the only reason I didn't say screw it and go back to windows is because I had the perseverance and was good with PCs. I've had issues... I'll consider it.	05:35
AgentGreen	all i have is cd	05:36
AgentGreen	k it switch into text mod	05:36
AgentGreen	im at boot :	05:36
sensae	Can anyone explain this to me? My mdadm raid automatically builds on boot, on /dev/md_d0, and I have it in fstab. When my system boots it hangs complaining /home won't mount (the raid), but all I have to do is drop to recovery console, type 'mount -a' and hit ctrl D to continue booting, and it works	05:36
sloopy	Jon-, just remember you didnt learn windows in a month, so dont expect to learn ubuntu in a month ;')	05:36
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: press esc to get to the grub screen ... go to recovery .. are we getting there	05:36
dsnyders	sloopy, scripts go into /etc/init.d according to this: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368717	05:36
AgentGreen	trying i think I did it too early	05:36
Johny	any of you guys here know how to remove grub loader?	05:37
AgentGreen	just went to a boot: promp	05:37
ChogyDan	sensae: it might be an ordering thing. It is trying to boot before the raid comes online	05:37
Johny	GRUB	05:37
ChogyDan	sensae: don't know anything about fixing that though...	05:37
rww	Johny: what are you trying to replace it with? Windows' boot loader?	05:37
sloopy	dsnyders, yes, startup scripts belong in init.d but this isnt the startup script...	05:37
Johny	yeah i want to restore it to the original	05:37
AgentGreen	if I press esc from boot loader of cd	05:37
sensae	ChogyDan: Well that's lame :/	05:37
AgentGreen	I go to a BOOT: prompt	05:37
NimbleRabit	I'm trying to do a cp command, and I know for 100% sure the file exists, but it's telling me cannot stat FILE: No such file or directory. Here's the command sudo cp "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CoreAVC Pro/CoreAVCDecoder.ax" /usr/share/dshowserver/ what am I doing wrong here?	05:37
AgentGreen	I did it post clicking live	05:37
rww	Johny: Which version of Windows?	05:37
Jon-	sloopy: I just meant shit like having GRUB die on a boot... "Learning Windows" is very false, it's more like "learning how to not install junky programs and avoid malware" Windows is quite stable, hard to screwup, low crash rate, no compatibility issues, updates don't break things. Ubuntu, so far for me, not quite there yet. I don't know if I want to subject my mom to that	05:37
Johny	i have windows XP	05:38
AgentGreen	got it posting all info	05:38
AgentGreen	from loading	05:38
rww	Johny: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/292614-how-to-get-back-your-windows-xp-bootloader/	05:38
AgentGreen	so i guess it's gona load me into a prompt ?	05:38
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: not the CD ... try without CD ... boot normally .. when you get past the bios screen press ESC	05:38
Johny	ahhhh i already did that	05:38
AgentGreen	not installed there's only ubuntu 8.10 fastrack 4 and windows xp	05:39
Johny	still doing GRUB Loading but it actually wont even go to the menu	05:39
AgentGreen	backtrack4 I mean	05:39
sloopy	Jon-, yeah my wife was a windows person, made her use linux, until she got her new laptop, tried vista, didnt care much for it, went to 7, and is serioulsy considering going back to linux...	05:39
genii	Johny: For grub2 hold the shift key down and not the esc key	05:39
Johny	it would just stay GRUB loading	05:40
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: what do you mean not installed ... what did it do?	05:40
Jon-	sloopy: Hmm, really? Personally I love 7, but I take computer science so some experiance in UNIX/Linux would be nice. That's why I forced myself to switch for a bit.	05:40
GeekSquid	genii: that's new .. good to know	05:40
Jon-	sloopy: I didn't care for Vista at all, it was rushed and just wasn't very good	05:40
AgentGreen	I place cd in drive	05:40
AgentGreen	I get too the boot loader menu	05:41
AgentGreen	I got to install ubuntu	05:41
AgentGreen	shows me circle logo	05:41
Johny	nope holding down shift doesnt help	05:41
AgentGreen	shows me text	05:41
AgentGreen	then My screen goes out of rang	05:41
sloopy	Jon-, yeah i have opinions on both but they would be OT here and discussing here is against the TOS for the channel...	05:41
AgentGreen	it's an intel celery 2.0ghz with a nvidia gfx 7600 gt	05:42
Jon-	sloopy: Whoops. I won't then, thanks =)	05:42
sloopy	Jon-, np, suprised something hasnt been ssaid already...	05:42
mawst	Does anyone know which "fmt" on youtube = 1080p?	05:43
dsnyders	sloopy, This link uses /opt/scripts for an iptables script: http://townx.org/simple_firewall_for_ubuntu_using_iptables	05:43
rww	ubottu: ot \| mawst	05:43
ubottu	mawst: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	05:43
mawst	:D	05:44
Johny	GRUB Loader wont go away plz help	05:44
dsnyders	sloopy, [shrug] but if you've got it working, you've got it working.	05:44
hipitihop	what is the correct way to check what timzone I have set from the command line ?	05:44
lazarus_lupine	anyone know how to completely remove plymouth? Still getting a mountall error message on startup. Using an ssd so i don't need a splash screen.	05:44
alcala	is there any software like MAIL CHIMP for ubuntu??	05:44
arand	Johny: You have an xp CD?	05:44
Johny	yeah but i did all that fixboot and fixmdr thing	05:45
brjann	hipitihop: date	05:45
Johny	and GRUB is still there	05:45
brjann	hipitihop: that will show the current time in what the system thinks is your local timezone	05:45
sloopy	dsnyders, yeah that would be an LSB approved method to doing it...	05:45
hipitihop	brjann, says EST whereas I am GMT+10:00	05:45
arand	Johny: That shouldn't be the case... You only have one harddisk?	05:46
Johny	well when i instlaled ubuntu i had 2	05:46
Johny	1 for xp and 1 for ubuntu	05:46
hipitihop	brjann, although date and time correct, hence I suspect I never set my timzone properly and just set date/time	05:46
Johny	and i just removed the ubuntu hardrive cuz i thought it might help remove the GRUB loading thing	05:47
Johny	but it didnt	05:47
brjann	hipitihop: this should help :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime	05:47
Johny	i already uninstalled ubuntu but now i cant boot to xp cuz GRUB would get stuck loading	05:47
Johny	cant even get to the GRUB menu	05:47
sloopy	dsnyders, but either way thanks for the help...	05:49
dsnyders	sloopy, glad to almost help :-)	05:49
Johny	WOAH!!!! its fixed	05:50
sloopy	dsnyders, been using linux for a long time?	05:50
rshakin	hey ppl;	05:50
AgentGreen	hi	05:50
bullgard	pavucontrol) shows in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?	05:50
dsnyders	sloopy, at least five years, probably more.	05:50
hipitihop	brjann, strnage I followed dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and it showed the correct settings and shows current local timezone correctly but in local time it shows EST	05:50
Wubuntu	are there specific XChat rooms for webcam issues?	05:51
sloopy	dsnyders, ahh ok...	05:51
rzx237	Johny: how?	05:51
brjann	hipitihop: that's weird. if you click on the clock in your panel, does it show your location correctly?	05:51
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: I would reccommend downloading either ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 and install that over the install you have .. I believe you will have better luck	05:51
dsnyders	sloopy, ubuntu sets a lot of stuff on its ear, though.	05:51
AgentGreen	i have 9.10 on a cd	05:51
AgentGreen	but wont install	05:52
Johny	i dont know it just booted agian. i think it was the hardrive that i removed	05:52
AgentGreen	fails before install screen boot loader works fine	05:52
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: have you checkd the disk for integrity?	05:52
AgentGreen	will do but i suspect it'll be fine	05:52
Blue1	rzx237: yes but you have to set that	05:53
AgentGreen	backtrack 4 installed and ran live from cd wich is on ubuntu 8.10 i believe	05:53
Jon-	Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/ [now with updated info if you took a look before]	05:53
AgentGreen	so i don't see why this installation of ubuntu 9.10 would be problematic	05:53
dsnyders	So I gather nobody has gotten kpovmodeler to work?	05:53
sloopy	dsnyders, just different methods of doing the same thing, try running a *BSD and compare, and you will see how ubuntu and fedora have similarities in different spots with them...	05:53
hipitihop	brjann, I'm checking the machine remotely via ssh so not simple to bring that up	05:54
soudesuka	I installed ubuntu using wubi and then tried to move the install using LVPM, but for some reason, ubuntu does not show up in the grub menu. I get an UnknownOS which points to my Windows Bootloader and then the actual Windows Bootloader. The ubuntu install is still associated with the windows bootloader. any suggestions?	05:54
Skeet	hello guys	05:54
brjann	hipitihop: ah, i see. sorry, i actually have to do something else for a little bit :( good luck, though!	05:54
BankHead	Jru.	05:54
BankHead	Hey.*	05:54
dsnyders	sloopy, true. It's getting to know the variations and what goes where, especially between distro upgrades, that keeps you on your toes	05:55
Jon-	souldesuka You could always boot into a Win recovery CD and have it remake the bootloader, then see if you can get GRUB to load Ubuntu?	05:55
Blue1	soudesuka: becuase wubi runs as a task under windows	05:55
soudesuka	Blue1: LVPM is supposed to move Ubuntu to its own seperate partition	05:55
claws	this is my 6'th day on linux and.. boy... I LOVE THIS !	05:55
AgentGreen	claws well done	05:56
Blue1	soudesuka: i've not had good luck with that - - but YMMV (your mileage may vary)	05:56
AgentGreen	Im loving the ubuntu remix	05:56
sloopy	claws, congrats	05:56
dsnyders	sloopy, for example, they've changed the xwindows reset from CTRL-ALT-Backspace to ALT-Printscreen-K	05:56
soudesuka	Jon: the reason I did this was because my laptops disc drive is not working... i cant install any thing from a disc	05:56
AgentGreen	just not so happy with installer on ubuntu 9.10 desktop	05:56
Skeet	claws, gj!	05:57
Jon-	soudesuka: The only way I know how to boot from USB .iso is with GRUB and it's a bit tricky.	05:57
Jon-	soudesuka: But probably easier than trying to port a Wubi install	05:57
AgentGreen	unetboot	05:57
AgentGreen	works great for usb.iso boot	05:57
soudesuka	Jon-: not sure I can boot from USB. I'm probably just gonna stick with this the way it is unfortunately...	05:57
AgentGreen	it comes in a great linux and windows version	05:57
mkquist	hey all, i dont remember, how to get fsck to run on the filesystem on reboot... any help?	05:57
AgentGreen	just google unet boot	05:57
ardchoille	!info unetbootin	05:58
ubottu	unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 356-1 (karmic), package size 213 kB, installed size 636 kB	05:58
dsnyders	Jon-, there are a bunch of examples of usb iso booting on pendrivelinux.org, even a multi-boot setup.	05:58
BankHead	Is it easier to install ubuntu on a secondary drive?	05:58
AgentGreen	GeekSquid as quessed checking intregrity Check Finished: no errors found	05:58
AgentGreen	press any key to reboot	05:58
sloopy	dsnyders, interesting combo, but i havnt played with anything that deep since i was using YDL...	05:58
julian__	alguien que speak spanish	05:58
AgentGreen	guessed	05:58
AgentGreen	not quessed	05:58
AgentGreen	lol	05:58
ardchoille	!es \| julian__	05:58
ubottu	julian__: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	05:58
Blue1	!es \| julian__	05:58
claws	i feel i have wasted all those years on ...	05:58
julian__	tank you	05:59
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: backtrack is a dirivitave version that doesn't use the nvidia drivers, I had had problems with 8.10 with nvidia .. I know 8.04 works with nvidia, as does 9.04 .. 8.10 is almost to end of life, where as 8.04 still has a year of support, I digress, but really I'd keep trying ... I have one other option ... in your out of sync press CTRL-ALT-F1 to see if you get into a terminal ... if so login and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	05:59
Blue1	de nada	05:59
hipitihop	brjann, np, thanks for assist	05:59
Jon-	soudesuka: At least take a look at http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=23052 and see if you are successful. If your laptop can boot from USB, this is your best option	05:59
sloopy	claws, cant know what good is unless you know what bad is... think of those years as a learning exp...	05:59
* Blue1 wishes he knew more spanish		05:59
dsnyders	sloopy, when you have handicap assist on and hold alt it toggles on. If you then press ctrl-backspace to delete a word, you restart X with no opportunity to save your work.	05:59
knoppies	claws: Linux is free, but only to those who consider their time worthless.	06:00
AgentGreen	whn it's out of sink I can't ctrl alt f1 to get a terminal	06:00
AgentGreen	but il try again to make sure	06:00
ssmy	what is the easiest way to make one of my keys do what another would? at some point ubuntu decided that my right alt key isn't an alt key, and I want it to be.	06:00
dsnyders	sloopy, apparently it was happening quite a bit.	06:00
Jon-	Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/ [now with updated info if you took a look before]	06:00
knoppies	claws, welcome though, you will learn that computers as you knew it, are much more powerful than you were aware.	06:00
claws	sloppy: i see that now :)	06:00
sloopy	dsnyders, that that soounds like a party in a keystroke :')	06:00
rikoy	halllooww	06:00
Blue1	Jon-: I ran into a similar problem with my hp printer - turned out the printer psc 1310 is NOT a network printer	06:01
dsnyders	sloopy, I think there are other ALT-Printscreen keystrokes beyond Alt-Printscreen-K to kill x.	06:01
claws	knoppies: i am already beginning to notice :)	06:02
mkquist	hey all, i dont remember, how to get fsck to run on the filesystem on reboot... any help?	06:02
AgentGreen	no luck Geek Squid	06:02
AgentGreen	:(	06:02
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Jon-	Blue1: I don't imagine it is... I have it hooked up to a Windows PC via USB, the printer shared using Windows 2000 smb. Windows XP and Windows 7 connect and use it fine once pointed in the right direction and given authentication, Ubuntu fails. Any ideas?	06:02
Skeet	claws, what took you so long? :)	06:02
* AgentGreen cries		06:02
sloopy	dsnyders, yeah back in the mid 90's i used to have a shell running off the serial port on my 68k mac incase the console got too screwed, i could use a terminal to fix it... those were the days /nostalgia	06:03
Jon-	Blue1: I can use samba to access the drive shares and to see the printer, only when I go to print the printer "rejects" it [spins up like it is preparing to print, and then just stops]	06:03
claws	skeet: i hate my self for that :P	06:04
Blue1	Jon-: private message ok?	06:04
Skeet	claws, i feel ya pain!	06:04
claws	skeet: i got a lot of reading left though :)	06:05
dsnyders	sloopy, I just found a list. The keystroke is called a Magic Sysrq. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key	06:05
Skeet	same here claws!!	06:06
theadmin	Help, i added "alias apache='sudo /home/r00t/httpd/bin/apachectl'", to .bashrc, yet whenever i try "apachestart" it seems to skip the sudo part	06:07
theadmin	"apache start", i mean	06:07
hamza	no system devices (partitions, usb, cd/dvd drive) are showing in my nautilus, but they show in disk utility. now im just wondering if it's hopeless and i have to reinstall...	06:07
GeekSquid	ssmy: your right alt is technically AltGr in ubuntu ... you will need to learn to use xmodmap to remap those keys ... see here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/xmodmap.1.html	06:07
dsnyders	Well, goodnight all!	06:08
Trizicus	In chrome and firefox on every SSL/HTTPS site I go to I always get an untrusted connection warning and I need to manually add the certificate. Does anyone have info about this?	06:08
sloopy	dsnyders, but that hasnt been enabled on standard kernels for years IIRC	06:08
AgentGreen	lol my screen saver was kicking in on remix	06:08
AgentGreen	and I thought I was blacking out or going blind lol	06:08
GeekSquid	Trizicus: is your time/date/year set correctly? just a thought	06:08
Trizicus	GeekSquid: yes	06:09
alcala	I am having a hard time CONFIGURING evolution with GMAIL!! can anybody help me	06:09
dj_segfault1	I'm going crazy getting awstats to work. It gathers stats into /var/lib/awstats but the web page won't list them. I would like to give up on it and use something else. What do you use for web stats?	06:09
Trizicus	GeekSquid: How do I find out if I have a proxy setup with networkmanager?	06:10
Jedimestari	acala download thunderbird, ti is better	06:10
ssmy	GeekSquid: well, it's showing as ISO_Level3_Shift in xev. I was wondering if there was anything newer than xmodmap. guess not.	06:10
GeekSquid	Trizicus: ask globally , not my bag	06:11
bullgard	pavucontrol) shows in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?	06:11
AgentGreen	geek squid is there anyone i can call tommorow ?	06:11
dsnyders	sloopy, odd. Perhaps it's only alt-sysrq-k being implemented.	06:11
bikcmp	Hello, I'm trying to run psybnc, but it says it can't create a listening port.	06:12
bikcmp	i'm not running as root.	06:12
bikcmp	what could be the problem?	06:12
GeekSquid	ssmy: you could use system>preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts and remap the keys you need to make whatever function you need	06:12
theadmin	Okay, help me out here. I have a script to start the Apache daemon in /etc/init.d, yet it ain't started now (just booted)	06:13
GeekSquid	AgentGreen: see my pm	06:13
ssmy	GeekSquid: that doesn't remap a key though, just assign it to a command.	06:13
AgentGreen	thanks man i see your really busy and I really apreciate it	06:14
AgentGreen	I was really happy today with Ubuntu 9.10 remix on my netbook	06:14
AgentGreen	now im sad with ubuntu 9.10 desktop	06:14
theadmin	Some output which might be valuable: http://pastebin.com/s9ckmvRT	06:15
ubuntu	hello everyone	06:15
ubuntu	can anyone here help me with grub	06:15
gestaltish	hello	06:15
ubuntu	i have it installed on one of my partitions	06:15
ubuntu	but it doesnt show all partitions	06:16
ubuntu	how can i add a some partitions to grub?	06:16
gestaltish	@ubuntu Have yu checked the forums?	06:17
ubuntu	i found some useful info, but how to solve this problem in particular\	06:17
sloopy	theadmin, why didnt apache package install its own script in /etc/init.d ?	06:17
Jon-	Can a non-network printer that does work over smb work on ubuntu over samba, or am I wasting my time?	06:18
rastasean	looking for assistance to start vsftp but i get this error start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid' for writing: Permission denied (Permission denied)	06:18
BankHead	Visit #GeneralDiscussion for offtopic chat	06:18
theadmin	sloopy: It wasn't installed system-wide when i installed it	06:18
ubuntu	in fact i re-installed grub, on that old paartition, but unfortunately its missing my most important paritions	06:18
sloopy	theadmin, you need more in the script in init.d, look in the other scripts for examples...	06:19
ubuntu	that is the options at start up are incomplete	06:19
mattgyver	anybody know how to prevent wine apps from starting up in the "wine system tray" and just appear in panel?	06:19
theadmin	sloopy: Well, uh, why wouldn't this work?	06:19
djo	salut	06:19
rastasean	<----looking for assistance to start vsftp	06:19
ubuntu	hello	06:19
mattgyver	rastasean, it almost sounds as if its running as root and your trying to restart it as a normal user	06:20
djo	french	06:20
rastasean	<mattgyver> I do sudo, tho	06:20
nomad77	!fr \|djo	06:20
ubottu	djo: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois	06:20
Jon-	Can a non-network printer that does work over smb work on ubuntu over samba, or am I wasting my time?	06:20
sloopy	theadmin, i dont have time to explain... i need to go to bed... go into /etc/rc2.d and do a ls -l	06:21
rastasean	<mattgyver> i type sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start	06:21
rastasean	it mentions some running process that seems to be locked up	06:21
mattgyver	yeah, you could try a sudo killall vsftpd and then try running it again	06:21
RPG-Master	OK, need help sorting through a FRIGGIN' huge lost+found folder. Nautilus can't handle all the stupid empty folders and blank inode files	06:22
rastasean	matt, still denies me :(	06:22
BankHead	Visit #GeneralDiscussion for offtopic chat	06:22
rastasean	matt, pgrep doesn't show anything running	06:23
rastasean	as far as vsftpd	06:23
rastasean	i have even rebooted the machine	06:24
RPG-Master	So, any help with my predicament?	06:25
sloopy	RPG-Master, delete everything in there?	06:25
RPG-Master	sloopy, No, I have gigs of videos, images, and other random stuff strewn across those folders :(	06:26
Jon-	Printer issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/ I've been working at this for a long time guys, please someone give me some assistance =/	06:26
sloopy	RPG-Master, they shouldnt be in lost+found... but use the shell to sort/move it...	06:27
RPG-Master	sloopy, Well, they got moved there after I screwed up and did a fsck	06:28
RPG-Master	:(	06:28
becker_11	this might be a silly question but is a ssh signing key different to a gnupg signing key	06:28
rww	becker_11: yes	06:28
becker_11	rww: that explains my frustration with uploading my key to github	06:28
sloopy	RPG-Master, honestly if fsck put them there then they are likely to be corrupted...	06:28
rww	becker_11: which one do you want to make? I can link you to guides for either...	06:29
mattgyver	rastasean, im not too sure, did you install it from apt?	06:29
RPG-Master	sloopy, I thought so too, until I found a few folder completely in tact.	06:29
becker_11	rww: I need a ssh signing key for github the other key/s I've already got	06:29
BankHead	Visit -->> #GeneralDiscussion <<-- for fun talk, off topic and more :D	06:29
RPG-Master	But there are MANY randomly named folders in there :/	06:29
sloopy	RPG-Master, use the shell to start divide and conquer...	06:29
rastasean	matt, yes. i've never had a problem turning it on. so this is odd	06:29
rww	BankHead: Don't advertise channels in here, please.	06:29
BankHead	Sorry	06:30
becker_11	haha I thought he was a bot and someone got introuble for off topic lol	06:30
rww	becker_11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Generating%20RSA%20Keys	06:30
becker_11	rww thanks	06:30
RPG-Master	sloopy, What commands should I use? I'd like to find files by type (flac, mkv, jpg, etc.)	06:30
mattgyver	rastasean, yea i never had that problem before with it. I did some searching but im not finding anything like your problem, just config problems	06:30
rww	becker_11: no problem. Let me know if that link isn't clear :)	06:31
Blue1	!hcl	06:31
ubottu	For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	06:31
becker_11	rww: will do - brb	06:31
rastasean	matt, yeah i was thinking the same	06:31
rastasean	matt, do i have the start command correct	06:31
mattgyver	yeah	06:31
sloopy	RPG-Master, not easy to do... the command 'file' should tell you what type a specific file is...	06:32
Rebelstar	Hello, i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help	06:32
NoraZoe	i want to change the theme and log in screen but i cant seem to figure out how	06:32
NoraZoe	can anyone help	06:32
Jon-	Does printing of a Windows printer over samba work or not? I need to know if I am just wasting my time.. See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386105/	06:33
rastasean	MATT	06:33
sloopy	OP bankhead is sending random invites to another channel...	06:33
rastasean	I think I have have solved it	06:33
BankHead	O_o?	06:33
mattgyver	rastasean, what was wrong?	06:33
rastasean	i deleted the vsftpd.pid file	06:34
Madpilot	sloopy, BankHead - ?	06:34
NoraZoe	can anyone help me please i cant figure out why i cant add any new themes	06:34
sloopy	yes	06:34
mattgyver	rastasean, ahh, so its working now	06:34
BankHead	Wtf?	06:34
BankHead	I stopped 5min ago	06:34
rastasean	matt, sudo rm - /var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid	06:34
rastasean	yes, looks like it started	06:34
mattgyver	cool	06:34
sloopy	i got an invite at 1:31 and 1:33 (local time)	06:35
BankHead	Sorry dude	06:35
Madpilot	BankHead, why did you start in the first place? Unsolicited PMs - not cool. Unsolicited invites - also not cool. Do not use #ubuntu for that sort of thing, please.	06:35
BankHead	Alright. Sorry.	06:35
becker_11	rww: created the key thanks the guide was simple	06:35
rww	becker_11: awesome :)	06:36
patrick	what's the preferred method for scheduling a shutdown: "shutdown," "poweroff" or something else?	06:36
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RPG-Master	Anymore advice?	06:36
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sloopy	RPG-Master, yeah, get a large cup of coffee ;')	06:37
becker_11	patrick_____: I thought the syntax was sudo shutdown -(n) insert whatever time you need there	06:37
rastasean	does anyone know a program that can monitor all network traffic...not just on the machine program is installed on	06:37
patrick_____	becker_11, it is :) I'm just wondering if there's a "nicer" way of doing it (as in, I don't know if the shutdown command does everything that clicking "shutdown" on the gui does)	06:38
sloopy	rastasean, wireshark	06:38
brimmin	rastasean: ettercap if MITM is needed	06:38
dj_segfault1	rastasean: Wireshark can put the network card in promiscuous mode and do that.	06:38
rastasean	thanks guys!	06:39
rastasean	what is MITM?	06:39
becker_11	patrick_____: I was just thinking there might be a cron job way to do it say if you needed shutdown at the same time everyday but someelse would have to help with that so far I haven't used cron	06:39
RPG-Master	slowz,... :(	06:39
brimmin	man in the middle	06:39
RPG-Master	poop	06:39
becker_11	patrick_____: it probablly does more cause we all know the comamndline rules! :-)	06:39
dandaman	so i have windows 7 release candidate on my computer(with ubuntu installed from wubi). the release candidate is expiring toinght so if i install a new version of windows 7 will it mess up my linux install?	06:39
blakkheim	dandaman: yes	06:40
blakkheim	dandaman: next time don't use wubi	06:40
Rebelstar	i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help	06:40
dandaman	blakkheim: so im going to lose everything?	06:40
patrick_____	becker_11, hehe, thanks -- although there's another commandline program I know not to use called "halt" :P	06:40
arand	RPG-Master: DO you have any idea as to the cause? I had the whole root fs dumped into lost+found once and I suspect a couple of powerlosses on ext4 might be the cause...	06:40
blakkheim	dandaman: yeah	06:40
dandaman	blakkheim: DAMNIT	06:40
dandaman	blakkheim: maybe just install the new windows on another partition?	06:40
blakkheim	dandaman: if you would have done a real installation on a partition you wouldn't	06:40
becker_11	patrick_____: shame though - less typing	06:41
RPG-Master	arand, yep power loss :(	06:41
RPG-Master	arand, Though this is an external HDD	06:41
Jordan_U	dandaman, You can save / transfer your Ubuntu install / data	06:41
dandaman	Jordan_U: can you talk me through how to do that?	06:41
bullgard	pavucontrol shows in tabs »Output Devices« and »Input Devices« in in the first line »Internal_Audio_Analog_Stereo«. What does that mean?	06:41
dj_segfault1	dandaman: Can you start up Ubuntu and copy the important stuff ov er to external USB drive	06:41
Blue1	can a printer using hplip be networked (using samba) between linux and windows?	06:41
becker_11	so people is there a way to use cron to schedule shutdown of a linux box at the same time everynight ??	06:42
dandaman	dj_segfault1: yeah	06:42
arand	RPG-Master: Is this on karmic? (Mine happened on jaunty..)	06:42
Jordan_U	dandaman, I've never used wubi myself but I think so. Do you just want the data or the whole install?	06:42
dandaman	dj_segfault1: but i dont want to lose all of my installs and settings	06:42
RPG-Master	arand, Karmic	06:42
dandaman	like i have some programs installed that i dont want to lose :\	06:42
Jon-	Last call before I go to bed: hplip + samba w/ HP F4180 driver + printer connected USB to windows 2000 + HP F4180 printer = only spins up and does not print. What is the issue?	06:42
dj_segfault1	becker_11: I haven't tried shutting down from cron, but I can't think why it wouldn't work.	06:42
RPG-Master	arand: WAIT! I did this screw up through a Parted Magic CD	06:43
RPG-Master	But I fixing it through my Karmic laptop	06:43
RPG-Master	*I'm	06:43
patrick_____	I'm just going to do sudo shutdown -- that's probably good enough :)	06:43
muaddib	I was wondering if I could ask a mod_rewrite question	06:43
becker_11	dj_segfault1: yeah I've never used cron myself but thought it might provide the answer for patrick_____	06:43
muaddib	RewriteRule ^/something$ http://hostname:8080/something/$1 [P]	06:43
dj_segfault1	dandaman: There's a web page that describes how to generate a list of all installed programs and then another command to reinstall them on another machine from that list. I don't remember where it is but maybe someone else does	06:43
muaddib	I am trying to set the above and it doesn't seem to be taking, but I am not sure what I am missing	06:43
Jordan_U	!clone \| dandaman	06:43
ubottu	dandaman: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate	06:43
patrick_____	muaddib, your name sounds familiar -- is that from Dune?	06:44
dj_segfault1	Jordan_U: Thanks	06:44
dandaman	awesome, thanks	06:44
muaddib	patrick______ yes	06:44
Jordan_U	dj_segfault1, You're welcome.	06:44
RPG-Master	arand, So how did you handle it?	06:44
* becker_11 on windows I hated doing updates from the MS update site, on linux I get sad when I run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and there's nothing to install lol		06:44
dj_segfault1	patrick_____: If you put it in root's crontab then you don't need the sudo part.	06:44
patrick_____	dj_segfault1, cool, thanks for the tip!	06:45
mattgyver	dandaman, the other thing you can do is copy your /home directory to usb, most of your application settings are within that folder.	06:45
Rebelstar	can anybody pls help me out?	06:45
dj_segfault1	patrick_____: What time do you want to shut down the box	06:45
lindzeyn	Quick question. When I boot up, my desktop environment won't load, that is, the desktop icons do not appear and I cannot right click on the Desktop to get the usual gnome display options	06:45
becker_11	Rebelstar: don't ask to ask just ask your question	06:45
mattgyver	like for pidgin all your config settings etc is in /home/.purple	06:45
Rebelstar	becker_11:sorry i have been asking ? :)..anyway here is it ----------- i have ubutnu 9.10.. I just tried to install compizconfig and after checking desktop effects option,, system hangs..even after restart in recovery mode system hangs with startup screen..what can i do..pls help	06:46
patrick_____	dj_segfault1, I don't want it to shutdown at a fixed time every day, just in about 45 minutes from now. So I'm going to do sudo shutdown +45. I thought there might be a "nicer" way to do it though, that's why I asked here :)	06:46
lindzeyn	Everything else is fine	06:46
arand	RPG-Master: Hmm, was so heavily corrupted and disorganised so not much to do really, I was able to run photorec, which extraced some files, but it was still a huge mess which I wasn't able to extract much from, luckily I had no really important data stored on there..	06:46
Jordan_U	dandaman, You can convert your Wubi install to a "real" install on its own partition ( I know that it's also possible to transfer a wubi install from one windows install to another but I can't give you a guide for that at the moment )	06:46
Itadakimasu	im confused... Ubuntu has System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager and then, Applicatioins -> Ubuntu Software Center whats the difference, just personal preference?	06:47
becker_11	Rebelstar: that ones above me I'm sorry I haven't used compiz ... can you get to a shell at all?	06:47
RPG-Master	arand, I guess I'm just going to trudge through the mess then :/	06:47
Jon-	Last call before I go to bed [for real this time haha]: hplip + samba w/ HP F4180 driver + printer connected USB to windows 2000 + HP F4180 printer = only spins up and does not print. What is the issue?	06:47
Jon-	The driver is the f4100 series driver***	06:47
dj_segfault1	patrick_____: Ah sorry I misunderstood. There's also the "at" command to run things in the future, but that probably would have the same effect.	06:47
Rebelstar	backer_11: in recovery mode i can but i do not know the right commands to solve	06:47
rww	Itadakimasu: Pretty much. Software Center is newer and more focused towards new users.	06:47
becker_11	Itadakimasu: ma and pa will find software center easier snyaptic is more fiddly	06:47
patrick_____	dj_segfault1, probably, unless there were a way to call the "shutdown" gui button. Thanks by the way, I'd never heard of "at"	06:48
Itadakimasu	alright thank you =o)	06:48
cyberbluntz	I'm trying to get my totem dvd player to work. It says it does not have the appropriate plugins. so i fallow instructions here http://projects.gnome.org/totem/#codecs. and when i get to the gst-plugins-base in the terminal it says package not found	06:48
fudgey_muffins	anyone recognize this? http://dwarfurl.com/15bac	06:48
fudgey_muffins	it started popping up all of a sudden	06:48
dj_segfault1	Itadakimasu: Software Center is dumbed down and only includes the common stuff. So both do the same thing but Software Center gives you fewer choices.	06:48
rww	cyberbluntz: assuming that you're trying to play DVDs on it (it's a general movie player...), https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs	06:49
becker_11	Rebelstar: well your on a computer now talking to me so search for the compiz config file in google and when you find it hopefully it will give you the path to the file then just cd to that folder and do nano <nameoffilehere>	06:49
becker_11	Rebelstar: and edit the file in nano	06:49
arand	RPG-Master: photorec may or may not recover/reorganise better, and you can also choose to recover by filetype, which might be useful for organization, it's part of the "testdisk" package if you're interested	06:49
Rebelstar	backer_11:ok thanks i l try it out	06:50
rww	fudgey_muffins: That link is inappropriate for Ubuntu channels. Please don't paste it here.	06:50
cyberbluntz	ive installed the libdvdcss2 already	06:50
Jordan_U	dandaman, For moving to an Ubuntu install on its own partition: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html	06:50
julius632	hi i was installed anon-proxy in ubuntu 9.10 ,but i can't connect with other server alone one.HELP	06:50
RPG-Master	arand, I know about photorec... but it don't recognize some files I had :(	06:50
dj_segfault1	patrick_____: "at" is designed to do things in the future, like "echo 'shutdown -h now' \| at now + 45 minutes	06:50
muaddib	anyone familiar with mod_rewrite proxy	06:50
becker_11	Rebelstar: it's most likely in a folder like ~/.compiz in your home folder but that's just an assumtion you will need to check with a ls-a first	06:51
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burkey	running ubuntu 9.10 laptop froze and when i rebooted my tomboy notes are missing. But I can create new tomboy notes	06:52
azi_	each time i try to open a media file, totem stops doing what it is currently doing and plays the new media. is there any way I could configure ubutnu to simply start another totem process?	06:54
dj_segfault1	azi_: Why not call mplayer directly? Or gmplayer	06:54
lindzeyn	Quick question. When I boot up, my desktop environment won't load, that is, the desktop icons do not appear and I cannot right click on the Desktop to get the usual gnome display options	06:54
azi_	from terminal?	06:54
rastasean	i am looking for software to control a windows machine on home xp from ubuntu 9.10. any ideas?	06:54
azi_	dj_segfault1: i use totem as my default media player for whatever that may be	06:54
mattgyver	rastasean, you could just use VNC	06:55
dj_segfault1	azi_: Yes. Well if totem isn't working the way you want it to, use something that will ;)	06:55
rastasean	matt, unless i am configuring something wrong, vnc has not worked	06:55
mattgyver	rastasean, whats happening? (it can be a pain in the butt the first few times to setup)	06:55
dj_segfault1	lindzeyn: I would rename (NOT delete) the .gnome, .gnome2, etc directories in your home directory and restart. A config must be broken.	06:56
cyberbluntz	I guess Ill have to try a diff player	06:56
rastasean	matt, well which app should i try out? i have tried terminal server client, remote desktop, remote desktop view, krfb, gnome-rpd	06:56
lindzeyn	dj_segfault1: just rename them to something arbitrary	06:56
lindzeyn	?	06:56
dj_segfault1	azi_: That's why we have 20 programs that can do the same thing under Linux. Everyone wants something different.	06:57
mattgyver	rastasean, the best client in my opinion is remmia but you need to make sure the machine you want to connect to is running a configured VNC server	06:57
dj_segfault1	lindzeyn: Yes, or move them to another directory temporarily. Either way	06:57
mattgyver	rastasean, UltraVNC is a great one for windows, pretty easy to setup	06:57
rastasean	matt, i install ultravnc on windows to be able to control from linux?	06:58
mattgyver	rastasean, you install UltraVNC as a system service (best way), setup port forwards in your router, and then connect from tsclient or whatever VNC client you wish	06:58
dj_segfault1	lindzeyn: For instance, I wrote my own script that looks for all the files in the current directory, randomizes the order, then passes them to mplayer in full screen and OSD start/end times. Because that's what I wanted and I could do it.	06:58
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mattgyver	rastasean, generally the port forwarding is the hardest part :X	06:59
rastasean	matt, lovely. :)	06:59
becker_11	rww: I've entered the pub key into the form on github but it's still processing after about 3 minutes surely it should have gone through or rejected by now?	07:00
dj_segfault1	rastasean: Sorry I missed the beginning of your thread, but based on what mattgyver just said, would ssh -X work for you (ssh with automatic port forwarding)	07:00
rastasean	dj_ could you tell me about ssh-x	07:01
rww	becker_11: no idea. I've never used github :(	07:01
becker_11	rww: okay guess I'll just leave it running then	07:01
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mawst	mount-ntfs-3g or whatever eats up to 12% cpu	07:05
mawst	THat can't be right can it?	07:05
dj_segfault1	rastasean: ssh to the machine you want to run a program on with the -X parameter, and it automatically forwards the X ports for you. Your X client has to have authentication turned of with "xhost +" so the apps can connect, but then it just plain works. From that ssh shell, you can run Firefox or whatever on the machine you sshed to and it shows up on your computer.	07:05
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rastasean	dj_excellent! but ssh isn't even enabled on the windows	07:06
dj_segfault1	rastasean: Make sure sshd is set up for it: If the ForwardX11 variable is set to “yes” (or see the description of the -X, -x, and -Y options above) and the user is using X11 (the DISPLAY environment variable	07:06
dj_segfault1	is set), the connection to the X11 display is automatically forwarded to the remote side in such a way that any X11 programs started from the shell (or command) will	07:06
dj_segfault1	go through the encrypted channel, and the connection to the real X server will be made from the local machine. The user should not manually set DISPLAY. Forwarding	07:06
dj_segfault1	of X11 connections can be configured on the command line or in configuration files	07:06
FloodBot2	dj_segfault1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:06
dj_segfault1	Oops sorry about the flood. Didn't see the linefeeds	07:07
dj_segfault1	Ouch. Am I back on? rastasean can you see this?	07:07
bullgard	How to determine the current grub2 version?	07:07
rww	dj_segfault1: yes, you are	07:07
rastasean	dj, yep	07:07
rastasean	nice and red	07:07
becker_11	:-)	07:09
flsie56	hello	07:09
dj_segfault1	rastasean: (I've been a bad boy!) Oh so you want to access a Windows machine. I guess you could still do it if you ran something like cygwin, but it's probably not your best option.	07:09
rastasean	dj, yeah, i found this cygwin but enableing ssh/telnet on windows seems like a pain	07:10
sensae	All my music has cover art embedded in the id3 tag. Is there a way for me to set up exaile or rhythmbox to automatically load this art?	07:10
rastasean	enabling*	07:10
dj_segfault1	rastasean: Given that, I probably missed enough of your thread that I may not be of much help. But what are you trying to run under Windows from your Linux box>	07:10
dj_segfault1	sensae: I know banshee does that really well. Not sure about rhythmbox.	07:11
rastasean	i just want to be able to control it from linux. thats all	07:11
sensae	dj_segfault1: Does banshee have support for old iPods? With real syncing?	07:12
dj_segfault1	rastasean: what do you mean control it? What do you want to be able to do?	07:12
rastasean	open applications from windows from linux	07:12
mawst	This is a little out there, but has anyone used ntfs-resize to shrink an ntfs partition, make an ext4 partition in the remaining space, and slowly move the files from the ntfs to the ext4 and repeating the process to in effect convert to ext4? :D	07:12
rastasean	rdp/vnc	07:13
dj_segfault1	sensae: Yes, that's what I use for my classic 120GB. real syncing, cover art, podcasts, and if you update track information it actually updates the ID3v2 tags in the mp3 files.	07:13
mawst	Can ext4 be resized without data loss?	07:13
dj_segfault1	rastasean: and what isn't working about rdesktop, which is designed to do that?	07:13
mattgyver	rastasean, i just thought about something. yeah just use RDP to connect to windows it will be wayyyy faster than VNC	07:13
rastasean	maybe the service is not open on windows but it never connects	07:14
mattgyver	rastasean, what version of windows is it?	07:14
rastasean	xp home	07:14
dj_segfault1	mawst: What release of Ubuntu? Even 9.04 had dodgy ext4 support	07:14
mattgyver	rastasean, its not enabled by design.. ahem.. it can be done though.	07:14
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mawst	9.10	07:15
rastasean	right-click my computer > remote desktop. check mark is checked	07:15
mattgyver	rastasean, fireup tsclient and then use the RDP protocol to connect, might require a forward in your router to point to that machine, i think its 3389	07:16
cyberbluntz	OK so I still cant get a dvd player to work, I tried all the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting including the chmod 660, which gave me an error: tek@tek:~$ sudo chmod 660 /dev/sr0; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0	07:16
cyberbluntz	chgrp: changing group of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted	07:16
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: Did you run chgrp as you, or using sudo, or as root? You probably can't do it with just your login.	07:16
cyberbluntz	I typed sudo as u can see above	07:17
rastasean	tsclient is terminal server client, right?	07:17
mattgyver	rastasean, yea	07:18
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: Nope. That command will use sudo for the chmod, but not the chgrp. Put sudo before chgrp too	07:18
dj_segfault1	rastasean: Yes.	07:18
cyberbluntz	oic	07:18
paddymelon	hey, is it possible to convert my Java program (.jar) to a binary (.bin)?	07:19
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: If you put quotes around the two commands I think sudo would have handled them both	07:19
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: I think there are commercial programs to do that, but what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?	07:19
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hungnv	is there available driver for Xerox document center 286 on ubuntu 9.04? please give me solution	07:20
paddymelon	dj_segfault1, I have a shell that doesn't support Java but, does support .bin, since I'm a Java programmer, thought converting to a bin would be good?	07:20
hungnv	thankl	07:20
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: what most people do is make a one-line shell script that calls it. Or use Java Web Start.	07:21
cyberbluntz	sudo "chmod 660 /dev/sr0"; "chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0"	07:22
cyberbluntz	?	07:22
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: What you you mean by a .bin	07:22
paddymelon	dj_segfault1, but Java is not installed, this is a server	07:22
cyberbluntz	kind of like xhtml	07:22
paddymelon	dj_segfault1 a binary file, eg. that in /usr/bin	07:22
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: That will never work. You have to install java.	07:22
paddymelon	dj_segfault1, OK	07:22
cyberbluntz	nah, doesnt work	07:22
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: sudo "chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0"	07:23
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: You can install it anywhere, including your home directory if you don't have root, but at least the runtime (JRE) has to be on there.	07:23
cyberbluntz	sudo: chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0: command not found	07:24
dj_segfault1	What program do you you to produce web-based apache stats (visitors, popular pages, etc)? I've tried for about two hours to get awstats working	07:24
cyberbluntz	nvm	07:25
s7	hello, can someone help with this: fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified.	07:25
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: Ah, right. You'll have to sudo: chmod 660 /dev/sr0 ; sudo chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0	07:25
cyberbluntz	chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted	07:26
cyberbluntz	is the some variable i need to change in the command?	07:26
darolu	cyberbluntz: the dev list is filled everytime you boot, it is futile to change permissions that way; you should edit your fstab file	07:27
vizru	Hello, I'm having some difficulties with my partition table. It says "Can't create more than 4 primary partitions" in gparted. I googled this and I'm afraid to do anything because I don't want to break anything.	07:27
Boots32M	halp usb not mounting!! read forums they suggested a kde file manager called dolphin... will this run on 9.10 karmic netbook remix??? do I have to get Kde to install dolphin?	07:27
hackel	Anyone know of a way to automatically give PPA packages a lower priority? I've tried "Pin: release o=LP-PPA-*" but this doesn't work...	07:27
Pizik	Hola, does anyone know what package Ubuntu used for Pidgin integration on the User menu in 8.10? Does 9.10 still do it?	07:27
paddymelon	dj_sefault1, Just got told by admins that, uses too many resources...	07:27
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: Ferreal? You put in the sudo twice like that and it didn't work? Maybe because it's a device special file instead of a real file you can't do that.	07:27
cyberbluntz	plz refer to this page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Troubleshooting	07:27
paddymelon	so, a .bin would be nice	07:27
paddymelon	dj_segfault, what are those commercial tools?	07:27
sensae	dj_segfault1: Wow, banshee is pretty nice. Does it automatically watch the folders you add?	07:28
federman	im having problems installing	07:28
tom23902304	hey guys. i've got a windows maching w/out a monitor that i want to put ubunty onto, is there any way to get it on there without attaching a monitor?	07:28
dj_segfault1	sensae: I think so but I usually tell it to rescan manually since I keep mine on external USB drive	07:28
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Boots32M	wished my usb drive would mount:(	07:29
dj_segfault1	paddymelon: Don't know offhand. But just the JRE isn't very big (that's the runtime engine without the compiler, etc.)	07:29
federman	anyone know why the install disk for 9.10 would cause a gpu crash or how to get around it?	07:29
Pizik	Boots32M: I don't know why you would need Dolphin to mount a USB disk	07:29
Boots32M	<<<<noob	07:29
indus	federman, which gpu are you using	07:30
Boots32M	I don't know either:)	07:30
dj_segfault1	vizru: did someone help you yet?	07:30
indus	sensae, rhythmbox also does, and so does banshee yes	07:30
Boots32M	thats what it said in forums, I just want my usb to mount	07:30
Pizik	Boots32M: I am also pretty much a noob, but stick your USB drive in, open a terminal and type lsusb and see if you see it listed	07:30
federman	well i assume that's what it is. i get a horizontal bar that looks liek noise after selecting any option from the install cd	07:30
vizru	dj_segfault1: no, I'm wondering if I can put my windows partition in an extended partition without breaking it	07:30
federman	and ive tried several cds, so it isnt the particular disk	07:30
indus	Boots32M, a usb hard disk? unplug it, then plug it in again and in a terminal type dmesg \| tail	07:31
dj_segfault1	Boots32M: Unplug it, and in a terminal type "tail -f /var/log/messages". Then plug it in and pastebin what's in that terminal.	07:31
vizru	dj_segfault1: will it still boot, normally?	07:31
Boots32M	Pizik, Did that and it didn't register as there. then I turned udev on and off and that didnt' work	07:31
Pizik	Boots32M: then do as indus said ;o)	07:31
bullgard	I am using Grub version 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1. My kernel command line includes the boot parameters ro, quiet and splash. How to configure my Ubuntu 9.10 computer so that it will start without boot parameters quiet and splash?	07:31
dj_segfault1	vizru: I'm pretty sure anything but boot can be in an extended partition these days. That not used to ne the case, so if this is an older machine or distro, be careful.	07:32
indus	bullgard, well, remove it from the /etc/default/grub file	07:32
Boots32M	indus, dj_Seg will do.... brb	07:32
Pizik	does anyone know what package Ubuntu used for Pidgin integration on the User menu in 8.10? Does 9.10 still do it?	07:32
Boots32M	all will be in pastebin will return soon	07:32
vizru	dj_segfault1: so swap and a mass storage partition can be in extended, but my "/" must be in it's own primary partition?	07:32
pangolin_rollin	any experts on gps or fingerprint readers in ubuntu here?	07:33
Boots32M	indus, usb thumb drive	07:33
indus	Boots32M, pen drive ?	07:33
Pizik	yes indus	07:33
dj_segfault1	Pizik: pidgin-libnotify?	07:33
indus	Boots32M, what brand is it? try a different usb port. at the back, not the front	07:33
ripperda	I have a shell script that keeps stopping if I background it. is there any way to identify why a script is stopped? (it did not exit, it's just in the "stopped" state in ps)	07:33
Pizik	dj_segfault1: asking me or telling me? ;o)	07:33
dj_segfault1	vizru: Boot, not root. Not necessarily the same thing. but probably the same thing in your case.	07:34
vizru	dj_segfault1: if it doesn't have the boot flag, can it still be boot? Sorry for so many questions	07:34
pangolin_rollin	quit nooo help	07:34
dj_segfault1	Pizik: The description in Synaptic says "pidgin-libnotify is a Pidgin plugin which displays notification bubbles in Pidgin using libnotify and notification-daemon." which sounds like what you want	07:35
cyberbluntz	ok I got the command to work and I'm still seeing this same error No URI handler implemented for "dvd".	07:35
dj_segfault1	vizru: I don't remember if that's still used or not.	07:35
indus	cyberbluntz, use vlc to play it or mplayer	07:35
vizru	dj_segfault1: Thank you for the help	07:35
Pizik	dj_segfault1: Maybe I did not explain myself well. In 8.10 I had a menu on the lower bar that had options for setting my status for Pidgin, that is what I want.	07:35
cyberbluntz	Ive tried real player already	07:36
bullgard	indus: Do you mean to remove the two boot parameters only or do you mean to remove the whole line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"?	07:37
mattgyver	Pizik, i thought that was at the top now, where your user name is shown in 9.10	07:37
dj_segfault1	Pizik: Ah. You want the "indicator-applet-session" applet on the control panel. Right click on panel, chose add to panel, and chose that one (not indicator-applet)	07:37
dj_segfault1	vizru: NP. Gotta check off soon though. 2:40am here.	07:38
Pizik	Thank you, I shall look for it	07:38
indus	bullgard, remove teh parameters only	07:38
bullgard	indus: Thank you for advising.	07:38
cyberbluntz	Mplayer is giving me a fatal error: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device.	07:39
Pizik	dj_segfault1: awesome, exactly what I wanted. Installing now. ty and good bye	07:39
indus	cyberbluntz, what file is this ?	07:39
dj_segfault1	Pizik: Use it for good, not evil!	07:40
cyberbluntz	a dvd from redbox	07:40
cyberbluntz	any explanation?	07:41
Boots32M	dj_segfault1, indus, pluged that drive in every port then did the comparative pasting for paste bin: http://pastebin.com/zE88na9V	07:41
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indus	Boots32M, what does lsusb say	07:41
Boots32M	Oh umm says the drive doesn't exist	07:42
cyberbluntz	is my only solution atm to go use windows to watch it? :(	07:42
ergergerg	guis	07:42
Boots32M	but I see it and its right there... I swear!!:)	07:42
dj_segfault1	Boots32M: Those lines are about your keyboard. Nothing in there about devices? Maybe you need to wait longer. I did see a udev line at the end	07:42
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Boots32M	kk will do again and wait longer	07:42
Boots32M	brb	07:42
indus	Boots32M, can you paste lsusb also	07:42
Boots32M	sure	07:43
ergergerg	is there a fix for ubuntu being crappy while playing in hulu at full screen ?	07:43
indus	ergergerg, thats flash being crappy	07:43
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ergergerg	indus, im not going into a blaming fight i just want to fix it	07:43
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bullgard	indus: I did as you advised and rebooted. I cannot discern any difference. Still, there are no boot-up messages appearing.	07:43
iliev	ловите суки	07:44
indus	bullgard, i didnt advice to reboot	07:44
iliev	really??	07:44
indus	ergergerg, you cant fix it, try using google chrome	07:44
iliev	wooow	07:44
dj_segfault1	cyberbluntz: How about a windows VM instance on your linux box?	07:44
indus	bullgard, what brand of pen dri ve is it? does it work on windows	07:45
cyberbluntz	I already have the vice versa	07:45
cyberbluntz	triple boot	07:45
iliev	приивет	07:45
cyberbluntz	no point really	07:45
iliev	как дела?	07:45
robert__	_nick SirRK	07:45
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iliev	я тоже зашел	07:46
nomad77	bullgard: use "verbose slash=silent" maybe? w/o the quotes. worked in old grub.	07:46
bullgard	indus: I do not use any pen drive.	07:46
indus	bullgard, oops sorry wrong nick :D	07:46
cyberbluntz	would I beable to run the iso's from a ntfs file system?	07:46
indus	bullgard, try removing the lines from grub then	07:46
nomad77	/s/splash/slash sorry	07:47
indus	bullgard, ok sorry you need to run update-grub	07:47
indus	bullgard, after any grub edits run update-grub	07:47
cyberbluntz	Or should I make a fat32 and put em there?	07:47
texomobile	hi	07:49
cyberbluntz	hi	07:49
claws_	is it possible for me to set terminal as desktop background and be able to use it ?	07:49
cyberbluntz	!hi	07:49
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	07:49
ergergerg	hi!	07:49
cyberbluntz	!fr	07:50
ubottu	Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois	07:50
Boots32M	DJ_seg	07:50
bullgard	indus: This worked. -- Thank you very much for your help.	07:50
texomobile	thanks, havent been on irc in over 15 yrs...anyhow i am looking for where the grub configuration file is located in 9.10	07:50
indus	bullgard, ok	07:50
indus	Boots32M, lsusb pasted?	07:51
unop	texomobile, /boot/grub/grub.cfg	07:51
DelphiWorld	hi all	07:51
DelphiWorld	please i am sory for this question:	07:51
texomobile	also is there a equivalent to inittab?	07:51
DelphiWorld	what is the library for jpeg2dev?	07:51
Boots32M	dj_segfault1, indus here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/enF8MBUB	07:51
DelphiWorld	required package to install	07:51
zebastian	help, my internet connection seems to work fine when i plug the cable directly to my laptop but if i try to use the linksys cisco router both the wired and wireless connection dont seem to work, even when i login succesfully i cant seem to get any good connection and wicd displays it as 100% connected	07:51
Whit2spring	hey..guys Does anybody help me ? i am using chrome browser and just have downloaded one's file from google , but The file extesion was .download . what is extension .download ? how can i execute .download file ?	07:52
zebastian	its a wireless-G broadband router	07:52
indus	Boots32M, thats not llsusb	07:52
Boots32M	my bad I was seeing what I wanted to:)	07:52
flaarg	Whit2spring: rename it to the correct extension	07:52
Boots32M	brb	07:52
DelphiWorld	zebastian: how your ISP connect you to the internet? static IP? PPPOE?	07:52
zebastian	DelphiWorld: how do i find this out?	07:53
zebastian	i am on a cable connection	07:53
unop	texomobile, upstart replaces sysvinit on ubuntu.	07:53
unop	!upstart	07:53
ubottu	Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/	07:53
texomobile	super thanks unop found it was looking for a .lst file	07:53
Whit2spring	flaarg, thx for fast answer	07:53
DelphiWorld	zebastian: you use ubuntu?	07:53
zebastian	yes, i use ubuntu hardy	07:54
unop	claws_, maybe not a real background but you could set any window on the 'desktop' layer tho.	07:54
Boots32M	indus, I got a response that says it can't find it, but did point me back to lsusb	07:54
zebastian	by the way more specifically i have a WRT54G2 V1 router	07:54
indus	Boots32M, lsusb is a command in the terminal , just type it	07:54
indus	Boots32M, iam not sure what you mean it cant find it	07:54
texomobile	unop , I read that about upstart is there a config file for that somewhere? I want to boot into text mode and just run startx when I need it	07:54
DelphiWorld	zebastian: reset the router to default config	07:54
Boots32M	I typed two l's	07:54
Boots32M	instead of one	07:55
zebastian	DelphiWorld: how do i do that from ubuntu? you see i set up the router when it had windows	07:55
Boots32M	I'll paste it again:)	07:55
zebastian	with the cd	07:55
Boots32M	brb	07:55
zebastian	i threw that away when i switched to ubuntu	07:55
DelphiWorld	zebastian: and go to your ubuntu shell and type: ifconfig and check your ethernet nic ip	07:55
unop	texomobile, just disable your display manager from starting up .. simple :)	07:55
unop	!boot \| texomobile	07:55
ubottu	texomobile: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto	07:55
cyberbluntz	If were were going to create a VM with linux from an ISO image exsisting on an NTFS partition, would this be a problem?	07:55
Boots32M	indus, there you go:) http://pastebin.com/ubGBQtgB	07:56
zebastian	DelphiWorld: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386150/	07:56
unop	texomobile, i.e. on debian/ubuntu - all runlevels are the same. there isn't a dedicated graphical runlevel.	07:56
flaarg	well run level 1 and 0 are kinda different	07:57
Boots32M	indus, the before and after look the same	07:57
unop	well yea, runlevels 0, 1 and 6 are different - but 2-5 are the same	07:57
zebastian	DelphiWorld: by the way i did see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230662 and of course thats impossible as i dont have a windows computer anymore, i am a happy ubuntu user	07:57
Boots32M	I need something that can give my usb system a jolt:)	07:58
indus	Boots32M, tell me what company drive is this?	07:58
texomobile	Great thanks again, for you quick help! now if I could only get nvidia to suport my dual monitor setup (one portrait one landscape) I would be cooking!!	07:58
Boots32M	cruzer	07:58
DelphiWorld	zebastian: i think your ip is public, wait	07:58
indus	Boots32M, works in windows?seems like a pen driver problem?	07:58
indus	pen drive problem i mean	07:58
Boots32M	works in ubuntu intermittantly	07:58
indus	Boots32M, in windows?	07:58
tomatoes7__	anyone know a chat channel for electronic frontier foundation? (off hand)	07:59
Boots32M	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1384743	07:59
claws_	unop: not sure what you mean	07:59
Boots32M	In windows works all the time	07:59
DelphiWorld	zebastian: have you configured your ip in the router or no?	07:59
DelphiWorld	zebastian: and your ip is static or dynamic?	08:00
Boots32M	Its just that after I startup windows I don't want to go back to ubuntu because after I shut windows down hadies freezes over....	08:00
indus	Boots32M, thats a webcam thread isnt it	08:01
zebastian	DelphiWorld: i dont know if my ip is static or dynamic, i pay the cable company as far that goes,,,never had to deal with htis before, pardon my ignorance, and i had configured the router on the same computer, but with windows and a gui install cd	08:01
Boots32M	For my computer the internal webcam is on the usb system	08:01
Boots32M	I figured that out when I did the lsusb thing	08:01
Boots32M	so its a usb problem still	08:01
indus	Boots32M, seems like a faulty usb connector on the motherboard?	08:02
indus	Boots32M, the usb headers which connect to the ports i mean	08:02
indus	Boots32M, cant really tell without looking at teh motherboard	08:02
unop	claws_, an X window can be set on a particular layer i.e. normal, top, below, desktop, dock, etc. read up on wmctrl (1) and window layers.	08:02
Boots32M	indus, is the usb system a token ring type deal?	08:02
indus	Boots32M, token ring? wjhats taht	08:03
DeltaLima28	token ring has to deal with networking	08:03
Boots32M	Well the word serial part implies it, but I wonder if thats it	08:03
zebastian	help anyone?	08:04
Boots32M	token ring networks are done in a serial fashion so if you break the line at any point on the network everything stops	08:04
claws_	unop: thank you.. im on it :)	08:04
Boots32M	old old unix system I worked with a while back	08:04
Boots32M	the only thing I remember from those times is that there's a difference between ls and dir	08:05
chonkas	can ne one help me?	08:06
Boots32M	I was just wondering if usb connectors were all serial not unto the motherboard but with respect to each other..	08:06
zebastian	help, my internet connection seems to work fine when i plug the cable directly to my laptop but if i try to use the linksys cisco router both the wired and wireless connection dont seem to work, even when i login succesfully i cant seem to get any good connection and wicd displays it as 100% connected	08:06
zebastian	i have a wireless-G WRT54G2 V1 router	08:06
zebastian	by cisco	08:06
inja	ok	08:07
natethegreat1419	Hello you all	08:07
inja	still here	08:07
X-Frog	where can find whats new in the next release 10.04	08:08
Pirate	hi	08:08
Pirate	anyone feeling chatty?	08:08
Boots32M	Zebastian, your problem can probably be fixed by turning off your cable modem , and router, wating ten seconds then turning on cable modem, wait 30sec, then turn on your router.	08:08
natethegreat1419	Who is interested in how 10.4 will turn out?	08:08
Madpilot	X-Frog, join #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 news & chat	08:08
Flannel	X-Frog: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha3	08:08
Pirate	10.4 what's so special about that one?	08:08
zebastian	Boots32M: for how long will you be on?	08:09
zebastian	i already tried that a couple times	08:09
natethegreat1419	It is long term	08:09
Boots32M	wow its already 309 here... I'll be on for 45 minutes	08:09
X-Frog	Madpilot, ty	08:09
X-Frog	Flannel, ty	08:09
solid_liquid	I have to say, the daily build of ubuntu 10.04 is surprisingly stable	08:09
zebastian	Boots32M: ill try and do waht you tell me and come back	08:10
Anvoid	uptime gives me 5 users. how do i log off the other tty1,2,...?	08:10
syva	hey guys, i have a problem using the livecd. After a random amount of time my monitor goes blank, the button flashes, as if it as lost signal to the video card. Although I can tell the live cd hasnt crashed or anything. Any ideas?	08:10
natethegreat1419	I hope that they dont change how 10.4 looks compared to the others	08:10
Boots32M	good luck... if that doesn't work download the manual and look at the troubleshooting section:)	08:10
syva	sometimes it will happen after 20 seconds of using the live cd,sometimes after 4 minutes	08:10
natethegreat1419	Like with 8.04 it had a bunch of issues especially with pulse	08:10
evilGUI	I'm having a problem when I drag a file to the desktop or another folder it disappears, I have to use f5 to do a refresh to be able to see it. Any idea on what's going on here? I've already trashed my gnome config files and the Nautilus ones.	08:11
Boots32M	zeb you gotta restart your computer too in the whole process	08:11
solid_liquid	natethegreat1419, it looks very similar	08:11
natethegreat1419	Does it?	08:11
solid_liquid	natethegreat1419, I've been running it since Friday because it's the only distro that works with the gpu integrated into the core i5 processor on my new laptop	08:12
natethegreat1419	Nice.... I would like to have a better processor in the computers I use	08:12
solid_liquid	yeah, it's SWEET	08:12
solid_liquid	everything responds almost instantly	08:12
solid_liquid	there's really no lag in the desktop experience	08:13
natethegreat1419	I bet it does. That would be perfect for me usin AVIdemux and such	08:13
solid_liquid	yeah, transcoding video is definitely faster	08:13
solid_liquid	I've already tried some	08:14
natethegreat1419	I bet it is	08:14
chu_	Hey guys, anyone know how to change the default login status with Pidgin? I'd like to login by default to invisible (MSN) if possible...	08:14
natethegreat1419	LOL	08:14
klxklx	will ubuntu 10.04 upgrade when gnome 3.0 realease?	08:14
solid_liquid	chu_, you're still using pidgin?	08:14
solid_liquid	10.04 won't have gnome 3.0	08:14
chu_	Yes, yes I am solid_liquid	08:14
zebastian_	Boots32M: seemed to work, now how would i go about opening the connection	08:15
solid_liquid	chu_, have you tried Epiphany yet?	08:15
zebastian_	so that i dont have to type a password anymore	08:15
solid_liquid	chu_, it's the new default IM client for 10.04	08:15
chu_	solid_liquid: briefly, but I wasn't a fan.	08:15
chu_	Yeah, it was default for karmic too	08:15
solid_liquid	hmm	08:15
sash_	solid_liquid: for 9.10 you mean	08:15
Boots32M	Well you can use mac address security...	08:15
Boots32M	do you know how to do that?	08:15
solid_liquid	sash_, I never used 9.10. I like LTS releases, so I'm still running 8.04 on my desktop	08:15
natethegreat1419	You probably mean empathy LOL	08:16
solid_liquid	lol okay yeah	08:16
klxklx	will ubuntu 10.04 upgrade when gnome 3.0 realease?	08:16
sash_	and this ;)	08:16
chu_	Oh well, I understood what he meant.	08:16
solid_liquid	like I said, I just installed this version on Friday	08:16
solid_liquid	klxklx, no	08:16
Flannel	klxklx: No, 10.04 won't have gnome 3	08:16
Paddy_NI	klxklx: Highly unlikely	08:16
natethegreat1419	I am talking to someone that has a 5.04 machine still running	08:17
chu_	Actually, empathy is still installed, I'll have a look at it.	08:17
Boots32M	zebastian_, are you using your hard line or wireless from your cisco router?	08:17
titan_ark	Hey! I am in a bit of a trouble. I changed some code in 2 files and saved em by the old name! Is there a way to recover the old files? I edited them in gedit =(	08:17
chu_	How do I change anything with Empathy?	08:18
zebastian_	Boots32M: what you recommended worked, i am on the wireless from the cisco router	08:18
Boots32M	ok well you need to log into your router and either make yours an open connection, or use mac address security in order to not use a password anymore...	08:19
natethegreat1419	titan-ark look for a back-up file looking for a ~ in the name	08:19
zebastian_	Boots32M: how do i log into my router from ubuntu? i am sorry for my ignorance but when i installed the thing i was on windows and it was pretty much click on a gui cd-rom	08:20
chu_	Wow, invisible buttons ftw!	08:20
titan_ark	natethegreat1419, i do see 2 files with the same name with a trailing ~, how do i recover them?	08:20
Boots32M	I don't think you can log on from ubuntu.. wait lemme check real quick	08:20
solid_liquid	heh	08:20
solid_liquid	zebastian_, use your web browser to surf to 192.168.1.1	08:21
natethegreat1419	Open them back up like that	08:21
solid_liquid	zebastian_, or perhaps 192.168.2.1	08:21
titan_ark	zebastian_, what exactly are you trying to do? just get into its default IP depending on the brand	08:21
solid_liquid	zebastian_, look at your computer's IP address to determine what the second to last digit is	08:21
hexdump	Hi all I have a continual problem with installing java.	08:22
titan_ark	natethegreat1419, i am a noob in linux, could you tell me how exactly? I do not want to damage it trying to open without doing it right,	08:22
jastor	someone that knows if theres a taskbar/desktop widget or something that enables/disables X systems default system quickkeys? dont like the whole "take precedence over quickkeys you intend to send to the terminal window, so theyre sent to Gnome/KDE instead"	08:22
Boots32M	Well I can't log on to mine from ubuntu... but maybe thats because I'm wireless.. I would probably have to hardwire my computer into the cicso router to log into it...	08:22
hexdump	getting the exec 48 java not found	08:22
hexdump	and java problems with azureus	08:22
nomad77	zebastian_: try firefox,url http://192.168.1.1/ skip userfield, password field default admin iirc	08:22
natethegreat1419	copy and paste to another location and then opening it there so you dont mess with another file	08:23
titan_ark	natethegreat1419, cool will try iy	08:23
natethegreat1419	let me know if it works	08:23
solid_liquid	nomad77, that's actually very much dependent on the brand of router, and in some cases, the specific model from that brand	08:23
allen	hi	08:23
allen	again	08:23
allen	:D	08:23
hexdump	is there a way to totally remove java from my machine?	08:23
thianpa	Dont know if this is the right place. Anyone knows where i can fin rar archiver GUI ?	08:24
nomad77	solid_liquid: i have linksys also. but figured it might be same	08:24
jastor	seems an old bug is back btw :P ... did some updating earlier and: mplayer: undefined symbol: codec_wav_tabs	08:24
solid_liquid	nomad77, it varies a lot, even from one linksys to another	08:24
Boots32M	I got a motorola guess what the default password is:)	08:24
nomad77	solid_liquid: noted but he didn't check linksys site/manual,etc.	08:25
hexdump	try this http://www.routerpasswords.com/	08:25
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Boots32M	there we go:)	08:25
allen	@Boots hmm you mean cellphone or router?	08:25
allen	ll	08:25
jastor	tags*	08:25
allen	i didn't know motorolla made routers	08:25
solid_liquid	I've seen admin/admin admin/pass administrator/pass administrator/password pass/pass admin/[blank] etc	08:25
Boots32M	router:)	08:25
Boots32M	they actually do	08:25
allen	are they any good?	08:26
solid_liquid	yeah, and they make cablemodems too	08:26
hexdump	don't they make cable modems too	08:26
hexdump	ha	08:26
solid_liquid	my motorola cablemodem is rocks solid :D	08:26
Boots32M	is there an echo in here	08:26
solid_liquid	*rock	08:26
Boots32M	in her	08:26
Boots32M	in here	08:26
solid_liquid	lol	08:26
Boots32M	here	08:26
FloodBot2	Boots32M: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:26
allen	I've always thought that motorolla was a cellphone-only company because I've only heard of motorolla cellphones and nothing else	08:26
hexdump	echo off	08:26
solid_liquid	Boots32M, in her... ? I don't think I'll go there ;)	08:26
Boots32M	:)	08:26
solid_liquid	allen, did you not know that they're more of a chipmaker than anything else?	08:27
hexdump	but hey does anyone know how to fix my little java prob?	08:27
opossum_oisif	hi, what is the equivalent of tracker (file indexing) for karmic?	08:27
solid_liquid	although they created the "Freescale Semiconductor" name now for their chip making child company	08:27
allen	hexdump can't you just add/remove java? I'm an ubunut noob so I'm just guessing	08:28
titan_ark	natethegreat1419, it worked! thanks a bunch!	08:28
hexdump	allen: nope tried it	08:28
natethegreat1419	Awesome I will tell the person that gave me the answer that is worked glad to hear	08:28
hexdump	uninstalled it, removed directories installed java5 then updated to 6 to try to get it work and nothing	08:28
hexdump	It must be a problem with the path	08:28
Boots32M	you know there's a calculator out there that I got recently that installs java so it can run on that.. even gave the java its own icon...	08:29
hexdump	what about environmental variables?	08:29
solid_liquid	allen, too many things depend on java I think	08:29
titan_ark	natethegreat1419, :) thank you and your friend! saved my old code and all info! I wouldve been in deep sh**	08:29
tomatoes7__	anyone know a chat channel for electronic frontier foundation? (off hand)	08:29
natethegreat1419	no prob man glad to help	08:29
allen	lol for the deep shit comment	08:30
titan_ark	allen, :D	08:30
rww	ubottu: language	08:30
ubottu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	08:30
hexdump	yeah this is started to annoy me	08:30
titan_ark	i almost lost my code i was working on for quite some time	08:30
solid_liquid	Boots32M, the TI NSpire?	08:30
hexdump	this freakin java.	08:30
titan_ark	rww, :P oops sorry,	08:30
allen	what kinda code was it?	08:30
tomatoes7__	are children allowed in here?	08:30
hexdump	I'm trying to launch ps3 media server on startup so all I have to do is turn on my old crap computer then turn on my ps3 and bingo	08:31
titan_ark	allen, verilog code	08:31
Boots32M	solid_liquid, egors graphing calculator... got it and installed it from a link in ubuntu forums	08:31
rww	tomatoes7__: yes	08:31
solid_liquid	tomatoes7__, of course	08:31
Boots32M	I do have the TI emulator though	08:31
Boots32M	run it through wine	08:31
tomatoes7__	i don't like kids	08:31
solid_liquid	Boots32M, oh, a software one, not a hardware one lol	08:31
tomatoes7__	if i was moderating this channel, i would ....	08:32
tomatoes7__	sorry, i'll stop being trollish	08:32
titan_ark	is there a way I can append the system date in a txt file via terminal? i would then like to add it in a cronjob	08:32
opossum_oisif	why does tracker not supported anymore?	08:32
solid_liquid	titan_ark, yeah, use the 'date' command	08:33
hexdump	I'm installing the damn thing again. trial and error I guess.	08:33
solid_liquid	titan_ark, look at the manpage for it to see how to format the output from it the way you want	08:33
titan_ark	solid_liquid, just "date >> <path>"	08:33
titan_ark	solid_liquid, ah okay	08:33
solid_liquid	titan_ark, yeah, but you might want to format it	08:33
titan_ark	solid_liquid, hmm yeah thanks :) i want to append the date to the log file everytime i do a backup via a cronjob	08:34
allen	hey I think I'm doing this wrong but I can't get the msg command to work. is it like so? /msg username message ?	08:35
natethegreat1419	I just click on their name LOL	08:35
allen	what client do you use?	08:36
solid_liquid	titan_ark, there's a command to do just about everything in Linux ;)	08:36
allen	I can't click on the name since I'm using irssi and am in the shell	08:36
titan_ark	solid_liquid, yes that is why i try everyday to learn more and quit windows!	08:36
Boots32M	please mr ubuntu man can I have my usb stick mounting capability back????	08:36
titan_ark	pardon my noob question, how do i also add a new line in the txt file :P	08:36
allen	\n	08:37
allen	?	08:37
rww	allen: yes, it's /msg username message	08:37
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solid_liquid	titan_ark, :D have you learned grep, sed, awk, rsync, ssh, scp, lsof and what's hidden in /proc and /sys yet?	08:37
titan_ark	solid_liquid, :D nope a total noob, no unix programming background at all!	08:38
rww	allen: if you're not getting my replies to your PM, they're probably in another window (there should be a highlighted "Act:" number in your bottom statusbar)	08:38
ddavids	pls, can anyone help, i get this message when tryin to update - W: GPG error: http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>	08:38
thianpa	where can i find a good tutorial for setting up wine?	08:38
ddavids	W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>	08:38
ddavids	W: Failed to fetch http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/Release	08:38
ddavids	W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.	08:38
FloodBot2	ddavids: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:38
thianpa	where can i find a good tutorial for setting up wine?	08:39
allen	ahh act numbers	08:39
indus	thianpa, at winehq.org	08:39
allen	how do i show my other windows ? what does Act mean anyway?	08:39
sercik	hello,	08:40
hexdump	well I cchanged the install path from /usr/local to /usr/java hopefully that does it	08:40
sercik	the installer don't see my partitions on disk	08:40
sercik	gparted detects correctly	08:40
sercik	someone can help?	08:40
sercik	maybe is there another way to install?	08:41
20QAABM2D	wat	08:41
hexdump	if somebody knows the answer they will blurt it out	08:41
ddavids	i just pasted something using the pastebin but im not sure if anybody sees it here?	08:41
Pierreb	you have to paste the url here	08:41
rww	allen: hold down Alt and press the number corresponding to the window, or press Escape then press the button. E.g., Alt-4 switches to window 4.	08:42
rww	allen: and act stands for active :)	08:42
ddavids	Pierreb: thanks it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/	08:42
Pierreb	anyone in here that have integrated a ftp server with AD? #samba is dead so figured i could try here	08:42
sercik	is there a way to read the output of ubiquity?	08:42
Sh3r1ff	rww: on an azerty keybord it is Alt-Shift-4 ;)	08:43
solid_liquid	titan_ark, save that list and work your way through it	08:44
titan_ark	solid_liquid, :) sure thanks	08:44
solid_liquid	titan_ark, I've written an article on scp and one on ls here: http://solid.linux-coders.org/	08:44
solid_liquid	titan_ark, you really should read the one on 'ls' at least; it shows how much more sophisticated ls is than dir	08:44
solid_liquid	titan_ark, and provides some very useful insight I think into using the shell period	08:45
titan_ark	solid_liquid, damn the # of languages i need to know! c c++ java assembly vhdl verilog perl and now unix too :D	08:45
titan_ark	solid_liquid, hmmm i sure will	08:45
inja	what program do i need to add to have a sidebar?	08:45
titan_ark	solid_liquid, btw i am part of a LUG at my school, do check lug-sjsu.org and give your comments. we would like to learn more and educate many more about Linux and FOSS	08:47
ddavids	pls i need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/	08:47
solid_liquid	titan_ark, you'll find it's fairly easy to pick up. Linux is based on Unix, and Unix was written by the same guys who wrote C, so it's actually very similar	08:48
Gheddy_Zarc	hey is it possible if Im loading a package by hand like 40 or 50 files in bits, that I may have to reload one file more than once ? Im trying to load a heap of .debs according to dependencies and synaptic wont find the CD drive as a repo eh	08:48
solid_liquid	titan_ark, k, going there	08:48
titan_ark	solid_liquid, cool, okay	08:48
hexdump	whoo hoo!! just figured out an easy fix for the java not found problem	08:50
hexdump	heh heh it was just calling the wrong directory by default	08:51
sercik	thank you for help :(	08:51
sercik	i solved myself giving dmraid -ay before starts ubiauity	08:51
solid_liquid	titan_ark, oh, you may also want to look through the scripts section. Several scripts I wrote plus a couple dozen contributed by others are up there. The bash scripts can teach you some nice tricks for using the shell	08:52
titan_ark	solid_liquid, surely will have bookmarked and will go through it in time. too much to digest for a n00b at a time	08:53
solid_liquid	heh :)	08:53
solid_liquid	titan_ark, unfortunately I haven't taken the time to write all the articles I wanted to write, just a couple, but hopefully there's enough useful info there to help you out	08:54
titan_ark	solid_liquid, :)	08:54
solid_liquid	titan_ark, in the "What's this Linux thing" part you might also want to mention all the cellphones out there running Linux (apparently it's most of them now)	08:55
antoni	hi. anybody can tell me how to run echo mia audio card under ubuntustudio 9.10? it's not working "out of the box"	08:56
hexdump	does anyone know how to add a program to launch on startup?	08:56
hexdump	is it in /etc/init.d/skeleton or something?	08:57
titan_ark	solid_liquid, sure, thanks will tell my buddy to add it	08:57
solid_liquid	titan_ark, np	08:58
kaytortuga	Help. I have a desktop that use to boot just fine. And now after a reboot it says it waits for root file system, then can't find the disk.	08:58
kaytortuga	I'm dropped into a busybox shell	08:58
kaytortuga	but I have no editor...	08:58
kaytortuga	I think the uuid of the disk changed.	08:58
kaytortuga	so that now in /boot/grub/menu.lst the uuid is wrong	08:59
kaytortuga	how do I change the root file system mapping to point to the /dev/sda2	08:59
kaytortuga	rather than the uuid?	08:59
frankS2	is there any way to display what files a deb package installed?	09:00
titan_ark	solid_liquid, ttyl assignments to do before i crash and an early monday! thx once a gain	09:00
yeiks	I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it b4 bt wld like to kno au good it is	09:01
crawler	frankS2: when you open the .deb in gdebi it tells you what files are included	09:01
arand	kaytortuga: use a liveCD to chroot and "update-grub"	09:02
arand	kaytortuga: or actually probably grub-install is what you want..	09:03
yofel	frankS2: 'dpkg -L <packagename>'	09:03
yofel	frankS2: in a terminal	09:03
TecR0c	how do you check what is your default shell?	09:03
TecR0c	in the terminal	09:03
solid_liquid	TecR0c, cat /etc/passwd \| grep yourusername	09:03
ardchoille	Technoviking: echo $SHELL	09:04
jalal	hi	09:04
TecR0c	thanks ard	09:04
ardchoille	yw	09:04
solid_liquid	ardchoille, not necessarily	09:04
solid_liquid	TecR0c, /etc/passwd is where the default shell is set, so it's where you should check	09:04
solid_liquid	TecR0c, and if you want to change it, you change that file	09:04
TecR0c	ok thanks	09:05
ardchoille	Technoviking: the SHELL variable holds your current shell, so echo $SHELL will suffice	09:05
solid_liquid	TecR0c, np	09:05
solid_liquid	ardchoille, unless you've run a different shell	09:05
yeiks	I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it before bt wld like to kno au good it is	09:05
TecR0c	so its /bin/csh thanks	09:05
ardchoille	solid_liq: cat /etc/passwd \| grep yourusername returns nothing here	09:05
TecR0c	ard you have to be root	09:06
sash_	useless use of cat	09:06
ardchoille	TecR0c: shouldn't ne4ed root for that	09:06
sash_	grep yourname /etc/passwd	09:06
solid_liquid	TecR0c, oh yeah, because it takes root privs to work with that file. I forgot about that heh	09:06
solid_liquid	sash_, yeah, I said that ;)	09:06
rww	/etc/passwd doesn't require root privileges to read.	09:07
ardchoille	rww: correct	09:07
sash_	nope, its readable for everyone	09:07
sash_	exactly	09:07
solid_liquid	ardchoille, it's perms aren't necessarily the default perms of Ubuntu... it sounds like he's not working with ubuntu	09:07
ardchoille	TecR0c: which versionof ubuntu are you using?	09:07
solid_liquid	if csh is the default shell, it sounds more like he's on Unix	09:07
TecR0c	ard actually im using freebsd	09:08
TecR0c	but i knew the concept would be the same	09:08
TecR0c	=]	09:08
solid_liquid	yep, Unix ;)	09:08
ardchoille	TecR0c: then you shouldn't be inhere asking bsd support	09:08
ardchoille	solid_liq: good call	09:08
hexdump	where do I place my program to launch on startup?	09:08
solid_liquid	I've only ever seen csh as a default shell on unix boxes	09:08
hexdump	not boot but login	09:08
TecR0c	i can leave if u wish	09:08
solid_liquid	hexdump, to your desktop?	09:09
ardchoille	hexdump: System > Preferences > Startup applications	09:09
demonspork	hexdump, System>Preferences>Startup Applications	09:09
demonspork	oh	09:09
demonspork	nice	09:09
demonspork	lol	09:09
solid_liquid	good, I didn't have to type all that :)	09:09
FloodBot2	demonspork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:09
ardchoille	TecR0c: just know that this channel is for ubuntu support only	09:09
solid_liquid	that's why I stalled ;)	09:09
hnsr	guys, something weird just happened	09:09
ardchoille	solid_liquid: hehe	09:09
demonspork	hnsr, I know, I tried to watch that big fight up in canada, but for some reason a hockey game happened instead	09:10
hnsr	i have ubuntu on my laptop, and I use ssh key auth for everything, but suddenly my private keyfile on my laptop had all permission bits set (777,rwxrwxrwx)	09:10
hnsr	demonspork, :p	09:10
hexdump	I'm using Xubuntu is there a way to access it through the shell?	09:10
hnsr	ssh complained loudly, thankfully	09:10
hnsr	but I wonder how the heck it even got that way	09:10
ardchoille	hexdump: you need to ask in #xubuntu	09:10
yeiks	I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v neva used it b4 bt wld like to kno au good it is	09:11
solid_liquid	hnsr, that's very hard to diagnose unless you can go through everything you did between when you know it wasn't that way and when it was	09:11
Myrtti	hexdump: it's different in xubuntu	09:11
solid_liquid	hnsr, which... is still a lot of work	09:11
hexdump	ah okie thanks though now I know for ubuntu. thanks for the help	09:11
Myrtti	hexdump: applications - settings - sessions and startup	09:11
sash_	hnsr: grep chmod ~/.bash_history	09:11
hnsr	solid_liquid, hmm, yeah I suppose you're right, it mustve happened in the last hour though since I sshed to my server not too long ago without problems	09:12
hnsr	I do remember one thing, I did 'sudo apt-get install traceroute', and then I got some kind of popup about an authentication issue with updating the apt package lists, or something along those lines	09:12
yeiks	nobody seems to want to answer my question	09:12
solid_liquid	hnsr, hmm	09:13
hnsr	I then clicked uhm.. something, i think it had a button saying 'check' and it asked my user password (i.e. like when you need to reaise priveleges for updating software), and then I just let it do its thing	09:13
hnsr	though I'm not sure what it was actually doing, as I was in a hurry to get on with debugging my network :/	09:14
solid_liquid	yeiks, this isn't a "texting channel"... you might try typing like a normal human being ;)	09:14
ardchoille	sash_: actually I think "history \| grep foo" would be better in case something has yet to be written to ~/.bash_history	09:15
hexdump	thanks now I have to fix the ps3 media server java not found again pfff figures. figure one thing out another thing fails.	09:15
sash_	ardchoille: yep	09:15
solid_liquid	hexdump, heh	09:15
hnsr	anyay, paranoid mode is now set to 'off' and I'll just assume this was something innocent, just wanted to bring it up here incase someone else got something like this :p	09:16
solid_liquid	hnsr, I think it was unique to you. I use ssh all the time, and haven't seen that problem	09:18
hnsr	solid_liquid, yeah, it's just weird since it mustve been some other tool/app/thing that changed the permissions on my key, and I guess it would be interesting to find out what and why, sadly my bash_history file doesn't reveal anything :/	09:19
solid_liquid	hnsr, yep. That's about the only thing I'd really like to see changed about how shells in Linux work, but it's so difficult to come up with an elegant way to have separate history files for different terminals without having a massive blowup in the number of files saved for that purpose	09:21
inja	can i run xfire on ubuntu?	09:21
solid_liquid	xfire?	09:21
inja	rgr	09:21
solid_liquid	crossfire?	09:22
xiong	Game.	09:22
solid_liquid	oh	09:22
solid_liquid	no idea	09:22
xiong	Try wine.	09:22
inja	how do i use wine	09:22
solid_liquid	yeah, or crossover (commercial version of wine)	09:22
ardchoille	!wine \| inja	09:22
ubottu	inja: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	09:22
inja	i have wine	09:22
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Quan-Time	inja: wine is installed ? it basically enables you to double click ".exe" files and the execute much the same way windows would hdandle it	09:23
Quan-Time	inja: i use wine for utorrent and a ftp program.. plus "steam" and a few other tid bits	09:23
ddavids	pls what does this do	09:24
Guest94909	Where can i ask help questions?	09:24
ardchoille	right here	09:24
solid_liquid	Quan-Time, you don't like the native torrent software?	09:25
ddavids	pls what does this command do - 'update manager -d'?	09:25
solid_liquid	Quan-Time, and all the native ftp programs? or just haven't found ones you like yet?	09:25
Quan-Time	solid_liquid: nope. i like the simplicity of utorrent,, AND since i already have wine for other stuff, and utorrent is like 250k...	09:25
Guest94909	WEll my sound was very very choppy after instal then I installed flah and sound is gone. for all programs	09:25
Guest94909	flash*	09:25
yeiks	solid_liquid be polite	09:26
ardchoille	ddavids: that particular command does nothing	09:26
Quan-Time	solid_liquid: the FTP program i use, im just used to... i used to LOVE filezilla, but since it turns out the devs are douchebags, ive abandoned it and put my money else where	09:26
ardchoille	ddavids: but update-manager -d = Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible	09:26
yeiks	I came across bitrock installbuilder i'v never used it before but would like to know how good it is	09:26
solid_liquid	yeiks, what do you mean?	09:27
solid_liquid	lol	09:27
solid_liquid	Quan-Time, I was just commenting about someone using Filezilla in ##linux a little while ago lol	09:28
Guest94909	I have followed the quides online and nothing work completly updated everything, tryed open zuse a 32 bit version live cd's and nothing works no sound.	09:28
ddavids	ardchoille: thanks, cld u pls help with this error when im updating - http://paste.ubuntu.com/386172/	09:29
solid_liquid	Guest94909, what sound hardware?	09:29
Guest94909	bose companion 5	09:29
lucky	I'm trying to install Anki I get an error with apt-get: python-qt4: Depends: python-sip4 (< 4.10) but 4.10.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 is to be installed	09:29
ardchoille	ddavids: are you trying toupdate to Lucid?	09:29
solid_liquid	Guest94909, that's a sound card? and could you change your nick to something easier to type please?	09:29
solid_liquid	/nick newnick to change your nick	09:30
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ddavids	no, im on karmic and i know lucid is still due for april... i guess someone was on my system and type some code that caused the error...	09:30
ddavids	id like to revert back...	09:31
solid_liquid	I think Lucid is a very good name for 10.04 I have to say	09:31
ardchoille	ddavids: what command did you run to get that error?	09:31
Guest94909	Ok, just useing motherboard, GB MA790X-UD4P for sound issue, its usb	09:31
solid_liquid	they're really doing a good job with it	09:31
ddavids	'sudo apt-get update'	09:31
Guest94909	SOrry it keeps changing my name automaticly	09:32
ardchoille	yeah. LTS releases have always been awesome	09:32
solid_liquid	Guest94909, what does lspci show?	09:32
ardchoille	ddavids: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file so I can make sure it's ok?	09:32
ardchoille	!paste \| ddavids	09:32
ubottu	ddavids: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	09:32
solid_liquid	ardchoille, more than that though. They've just really streamlined everything nicely. I'm running it on my laptop, but I run 8.04LTS on my desktop because I love LTS releases period. But it's just really showing a lot of nice polish (Lucid)	09:33
ardchoille	solid_liq: yeah, I can't wait to try it out	09:33
Guest94909	sorry new to ubuntu. and linix all my background is in pc from termianal?	09:33
solid_liquid	ardchoille, it's actually very stable for me already	09:34
inja	so i stil dont get how wine works	09:34
ardchoille	Guest94909: welcome to a better world	09:34
solid_liquid	:D	09:34
solid_liquid	Guest94909, yeah, in terminal type: lspci	09:34
Guest94909	lol well its been rough trying to set up this pc, its my gf and prob spent about 15 hours trying to get things to work	09:34
Guest94909	work doing php mysql .net java stuff but all on pc for 15 years now so this is all new	09:35
others	hey can anybody help me with this...i recently installed kubuntu but i couldn't login to my account .	09:36
solid_liquid	Guest94909, that's just because Linux is unfamiliar to you right now. You still need to learn the names of the programs we use in Linux, and learn your way around. It's kinda like moving into a new house. You'll bump into a few walls in the dark at night, but you'll adjust soon enough	09:36
ardchoille	others: you need to ask in #kubuntu	09:36
Guest94909	well its getting easyer, i like alot of things just ease of use is fun	09:36
solid_liquid	Guest94909, being a programmer, you'll really love the shell... it's awesome :)	09:37
ddavids	ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386195	09:37
Guest94909	and monitor is 42in and it keeps thinking thats its a 7 in	09:37
solid_liquid	Guest94909, you'll want to learn how to get a color prompt string first thing	09:37
solid_liquid	lol	09:37
solid_liquid	that's a sweet monitor	09:37
quentusrex	Help, I think my main workstation is about to have a hard drive failure. How do I backup all of my keys. ssh, gpg, etc	09:38
quentusrex	I'm coping over the entire home directory	09:39
ardchoille	ddavids: Wowsers, that's quite a list	09:39
quentusrex	is there anything outside of that directory that I need to save?	09:39
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almoxarife	I read that by changing the sources in source.list from karmic to lucid will get you an upgrade, I am in the middle of the upgrade, chances of failure?	09:39
Guest94909	01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio	09:39
Guest94909	is this the line you wanted	09:39
ardchoille	ddavids: here's mine (been using ubuntu since 2005) http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/gmWS19Cb	09:39
ardchoille	ddavids: I don't see any problems there, try updating again	09:40
pratichi	hi	09:41
pratichi	32/m/kolkata	09:42
ddavids	ardchoille: lol, thanks for having a look. im updating again...	09:42
ddavids	ardchoille: same error during signature verification...	09:42
ddavids	ardchoille: can i overlook it? or is it bound to affect something along the way?	09:43
ardchoille	ddavids: hold on	09:43
solid_liquid	quentusrex, everything should be in /home unless you put anything elsewhere	09:43
minus007	hi	09:43
solid_liquid	quentusrex, your ssh keys will be in ~/.ssh/	09:43
Laliitoo	olaaaa	09:43
Laliitoo	ola hay alguien??	09:44
arand	almoxarife: that is not at all a supported way of doing the upgrade, you should let the automatic procedures take care of that for you.. also for lucid support see #ubuntu+1	09:44
DJones	!es \| Laliitoo	09:44
ubottu	Laliitoo: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	09:44
ardchoille	ddavids: you seem to have a lot of redundant entries. Would you like for me to re-write it for you?	09:44
minus007	I need to install glib 2.21.3 on Ubuntu 9.04	09:44
minus007	Can anyone help me?	09:44
ddavids	ardchoille: yes pls...	09:45
minus007	I get this error while compiling webkit gtk	09:45
minus007	hecking for GLIB... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.21.3	09:45
minus007	gobject-2.0 >= 2.0	09:45
minus007	gthread-2.0 >= 2.0) were not met:	09:45
minus007	Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.21.3' but version of GLib is 2.20.1	09:45
FloodBot2	minus007: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:45
Zus	is anyone here a registered member of LP with opgp keys?	09:45
ardchoille	ddavids: open a terminal and follow my instructions	09:46
ddavids	ardchoille: ok	09:47
ardchoille	ddavids: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup	09:47
arand	Zus: I guess many are, what is your question?	09:48
ardchoille	ddavids: let me know when that is done	09:48
Zus	arand, are they specifically personal pgp keys or would a "specific" team have one how do they work?	09:48
ddavids	ardchoille: done	09:50
ardchoille	ddavids: copy and paste this line exactly as it is into your terminal and run it: sudo sed -i 's\|deb http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com\|# deb http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com\|g' /etc/apt/sources.list	09:50
brt_	In anyone here an expert at usine dar for making backups?	09:51
ddavids	ardchoille: done	09:51
ardchoille	ddavids: save the file and then do: sudo apt-get update	09:52
solid_liquid	ardchoille, it should already be saved ;)	09:52
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ardchoille	solid_liquid: yeah, force of habit	09:52
solid_liquid	ardchoille, heh, I figured as much	09:52
ddavids	ardchoille: there's no file to save...	09:52
ardchoille	ddavids: sudo apt-get update	09:53
solid_liquid	ddavids, ignore that saving part ;)	09:53
ddavids	it was a silent action	09:53
ardchoille	yeah, that's an old habit of mine	09:53
ddavids	ardchoille: ok	09:53
ardchoille	ddavids: any errors?	09:53
ddavids	still working	09:53
Arma_	I just started a project at my university, the project is to install a Linux client and make it login on a windows server domain controller, can anyone put me on the right track ?	09:53
ddavids	ardchoille: there are errors...	09:54
Arma_	and of course I chose Ubuntu for the Linux OS	09:54
ardchoille	ddavids: Can you pastebin them pls?	09:54
andrew__	Ok so using the OSS driver for spotify, it needs to be the first application to lock/use audio..	09:54
andrew__	Is there any way to release whatever else is using audio?	09:54
Nuf881	I have this strange problem where my wireless won't connect to any open networks, only encrypted ones. Any hints?	09:55
solid_liquid	Arma_, that's actually easiest to do on Fedora... you might want to try that first to see how it works in Fedora (or CentOS) to get your starting point	09:55
ddavids	ardchoille: ok - http://paste.ubuntu.com/386203/	09:55
arand	Zus: Not completely sure, but I think everyone has a personal key, and if say, a team creates a ppa which has another associated key, the LP system will automatically accept all team-members' keys and re-sign with the ppa-key when any one of the mebers upload to the PPA (not sure, but I think that's how it works..)	09:56
adri_	Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 9.19 on a laptop (Asus M70sa) and the screen is extremely dim. Power management options have no effect. I tried to manually edit /sys/class/acpi_video0/brightness but it did not work.	09:57
ardchoille	ddavids: Is this from a new install or an upgrade from a previous release?	09:57
Arma_	solid_liquid: would Fedora work on a P2 with 128MB Ram ? I was thinking about Xubuntu	09:57
solid_liquid	Arma_, uh... an older version would for sure. I'm not sure about the current ones	09:58
ddavids	ardchoille: it's a new install but i gave it out to a friend and i guess he must have tampered wt it...	09:58
Arma_	solid_liquid: that's the challenge, if this works they might install Linux on alot of workstations instead of their Windows or OpenSolaris (which doesn't work on the domain for now)	09:58
Zus	arand, thanks...	09:58
ardchoille	ddavids: Can you run this command for me please: lsb_release -r	09:58
hatten_	test, anybody sees this?	09:59
ardchoille	yes	09:59
crawler	adri_: try this command: echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop/ls_switch	09:59
Callum__	hatten_: coming through fine =)	09:59
solid_liquid	Arma_, it'll work. I was just talking to a friend of mine who works for Wolfram (makers of Mathematica) yesterday, and he told me they're all Linux there and use Fedora because it's the easiest to get working on the domain	09:59
brjann	would someone say my nick please? testing notifications	10:00
rww	brjann: hi!	10:00
solid_liquid	brjann, no	10:00
hatten_	okay, I've borked X on my netbook, and I dunno how to choose and connect to network through the cli at ubuntu	10:00
crawler	adri_: as root	10:00
ardchoille	solid_liquid: lol	10:00
brjann	rww: thanks! solid_liquid: :(	10:00
solid_liquid	lol	10:00
solid_liquid	brjann, it gave a notification, didn't it? ;)	10:00
PingFloyd	Arma_: you may want to consider trying lubuntu	10:00
brjann	brjann: yes, but it sounded sad.	10:00
hatten_	as soon as i get internet i'll be fine	10:00
tomatoes7__	use puppy linux	10:00
brjann	oops, now i'm talking to myself. clearly i should go to sleep	10:00
solid_liquid	PingFloyd, lubuntu?	10:01
ddavids	ardchoille: tobi@tobi-laptop:~$ lsb_release -r	10:01
ddavids	Release:9.10	10:01
psycho_oreos	ubuntu with lxde frontend	10:01
adri_	crawler, thank you very much. so there's no front-end for switching on/off the light sensor?	10:01
Arma_	PingFloyd: I was considering it too, solid_liquid yes it is lxde GUI	10:01
hatten_	Nobody knows how to connect to the internet through the cli here?	10:01
xjdeng	list	10:01
faileas	hatten_: wires or wireless?	10:01
hatten_	wires	10:01
hexdump	ah ha! I finally fixed everything!	10:01
PingFloyd	solid_liquid: it uses lxde for the desktop environment	10:01
psycho_oreos	I don't think lubuntu is out yet, although its available as a virtual package in the repo but it won't be out till lucid is officially out I think	10:01
hatten_	faileas: wires	10:01
hexdump	just had to get that out sorry	10:01
ardchoille	ddavids: ok, what is happening is that you are getting a GPG error on a repo that was installed when you installed the system. Someone somehow mucked something up. I'd get hold of that friend and ask him what he did.	10:01
djoef	Hi, a few days ago, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. Suddenly I get this warning at startup, saying my hard disk has a big amount of bad sectors. By reading some forums the best thing to do seemed to download the diagnostics software from the hardware supplier (samsung in my case) which just completed a full test with no errors.	10:01
crawler	adri_: not that i know of. you'll have to run that every boot, i believe. should be easy enough though	10:02
solid_liquid	hatten_, just connect to the network with internet access	10:02
djoef	What should I believe, and If its samsungs tool, how to remove the error in ubuntu ?	10:02
solid_liquid	PingFloyd, hmm, I didn't know that flavor existed	10:02
faileas	hatten : ifconfig and pastebin what's there. If you need a browser... w3m is the 'easy' one. lynx is more popular tho	10:02
adri_	crawler, ok I'll just put something in init.d.	10:02
PingFloyd	solid_liquid: I think it is still just a virtual package right now	10:02
ardchoille	ddavids: would you like me to walk you through returning your sources.list to the original?	10:02
Arma_	djoef: it might be either logical or physical you should know which first	10:02
faileas	djoef: tried running fsck?	10:02
crawler	adri_: ok, good luck xD	10:02
ddavids	ardchoille: yes pls...	10:02
PingFloyd	solid_liquid: the plan is to make it a distro though	10:02
rww	a preliminary version of lubuntu is in Ubuntu 9.10's metaverse repository	10:02
solid_liquid	faileas, I think links is much better than lynx. lynx is ancient and crusty	10:02
faileas	lol	10:03
solid_liquid	PingFloyd, I've never even tried lxde	10:03
djoef	faileas, I didn't because I did the samsungs diagnostic test. I don't want to remap things and mess my drive up, if its not necessary ;)	10:03
faileas	solid_liquid: i prefer w3m	10:03
faileas	;p	10:03
solid_liquid	faileas, I like w3m too	10:03
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PingFloyd	I used to run lxde on debian on my old PII, it ran pretty nicely	10:03
djoef	Arma_, how should I check for this ?	10:03
Arma_	PingFloyd: or I can just install Xubuntu and then install LXDE nothing will change, that's not the problem I have, the main problem is making a Linux OS work on a P2 and hook it up to a windows domain controller	10:03
hatten_	solid_liquid: faileas w8 a second, booting	10:03
faileas	djoef: if its a FS issue... you'd prolly not have it caufht by said tool	10:03
PingFloyd	Arma_: yeah, that is probably your best route	10:04
Arma_	djoef: <faileas> djoef: tried running fsck?	10:04
djoef	faileas, FS ?	10:04
Arma_	PingFloyd: but hooking it up to a windows domain should be a challenge	10:04
minus007	How to install Firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu 9.04?	10:04
faileas	hatten: i'm an idiot for telling you to pastebin fsck. but ifconfig should show a ip addie that's valid, hopefully. else we'd have to go to strp 2	10:04
psycho_oreos	djoef, filesystem	10:04
Arma_	and I would prefer Ubuntu over Fedora	10:04
djoef	psycho_oreos, thank you :)	10:04
faileas	what psycho_oreos said	10:04
ardchoille	ddavids: open a terminal and do: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.backup /etc/apt/sources.list	10:04
andrew__	ZOMG FEDORA HATS	10:04
Arma_	but if there is no way to do but on Fedora then Fedora it is I guess	10:04
psycho_oreos	djoef, np	10:04
solid_liquid	Arma_, it can be done on Ubuntu too, it's just more work	10:05
p1oooop1	hey guys	10:05
adri_	Is there a way to track changes to the Ubuntu system and store them somewhere? I'm about to add a script to init.d. If I ever re-install Ubuntu I will have to search for the fix again and install the script again. Is there a tool that automates this?	10:05
danx	!hi	10:05
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	10:05
faileas	Arma_: http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Configure_Ubuntu_for_Active_Directory_Authentication ?	10:05
minus007	hey p1oooop1	10:05
Arma_	solid_liquid: work is no problem I have 4 months to finish this project	10:05
ddavids	ardchoille: done	10:05
solid_liquid	Arma_, Fedora was made to do that easily. You'll probably just need to write a script or something for Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is obviously a much nicer choice for a desktop distro	10:05
faileas	adri_: not as far as i know. that's one reason i document my changes in a wiki ;p	10:06
djoef	faileas, Arma_ , So even with the samsung diagnostic tool saying there is no error, you would recommend me to check with fsck right ?	10:06
hatten_	faileas: yeah, ifconfig says no ip, only inet addr and mask, and some other stuff	10:06
ardchoille	ddavids: I'm sorry I wasn't able to fix this problem for you, but keep asking in here and someone should be able to help	10:06
faileas	djoef: totally	10:06
minus007	Guysssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss	10:06
PingFloyd	Arma_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba	10:06
faileas	hatten_: sudo ifup <interfacename>	10:06
danx	!ask \| minus007	10:06
ubottu	minus007: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	10:06
Arma_	djoef: of course	10:06
minus007	How to install FF 3.6 on Ubunto 9.04??????????????????????????????/	10:06
ddavids	ardchoille: no prbs, thanks so much for ur time... i think i have a friend to skin...	10:06
minus007	Okk	10:06
danx	minus007: go to firefox.com and download the binary	10:06
solid_liquid	minus007, stop yelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)	10:07
hatten_	faileas: how do i find the interfacename?	10:07
ardchoille	ddavids: hehe, you're welcome	10:07
mjrosenb	has linux-ubuntu-modules been deprecated?	10:07
minus007	ok	10:07
p1oooop1	anyone know how to record using pulse? for whatever reason, it isn't working :P	10:07
Arma_	solid_liquid: I am a part of Ubuntu-lb so I'm working alone on this project, true, but this is one for the team ;)	10:07
p1oooop1	perhaps my ALSA drivers aren;t working right?	10:07
faileas	hatten_: it should be eth0 or eth1 - ifconfig should have output it	10:07
mjrosenb	because apt/synaptic does not seem to have anything for 3.6.31.*	10:07
rww	minus007: Firefox 3.6 is not officially supported on Ubuntu 9.04. For an unsupported PPA version, see https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable	10:07
p1oooop1	intel ICH-7?	10:07
scruffymogwai	Is FF 3.6 available thru a PPA?	10:07
ardchoille	ddavids: fwiw, you shouldn't be getting that error unless he messed with your keyrings	10:07
faileas	hatten_: if neither are up, we will need to find it from lshw	10:07
minus007	Thanks rww	10:07
scruffymogwai	nevermind	10:07
djoef	faileas, Arma_, should I do this starting from a live CD and run the full test ? (secondary question, will this be able to "repair" my disk (or at least avoid further errors by ignoring those blocks))	10:08
brt_	Hi everyone! My drive sda is divided into 3 partitions: boot, swap, and data. I corrupted files on the boot partition. Can I fix it without affecting the data partition?	10:08
hatten_	faileas: neither are up	10:08
solid_liquid	Arma_, it would be great to see Ubuntu have a large installbase at a University	10:08
faileas	djoef: yes	10:08
faileas	hatten_: what do you have?	10:08
hatten_	faileas: in ifconfig? linnk encap, inet addr, mask, rx/tx packets, mtu, metric, rx/tx bytes	10:09
p1oooop1	solid_liquid: I agree, wouldn't it really make a difference?	10:09
ddavids	ardchoille: i guessed as much	10:09
faileas	hatten_: all the way left	10:09
Arma_	solid_liquid: yup, and LDAP does not help cause I wont have a linux server, they have a windows server	10:09
hatten_	faileas: aha, lo	10:09
hatten_	faileas: only	10:09
p1oooop1	solid_liquid: hundreds more people in here asking for help :D	10:09
djoef	faileas, Arma_ , thanks !	10:09
rww	mjrosenb: yes. That package was only published for hardy; I'm looking to see where that functionality is now located.	10:09
ddavids	but isnt it possible to revert such, to an earlier time? just thinking...	10:09
faileas	hatten_: ahh. ok. TIME FOR STAGE TWO! STRIKE!	10:09
p1oooop1	(kidding)	10:09
solid_liquid	p1oooop, heh	10:09
faileas	hatten_: sudo lshw \| less	10:10
hatten_	faileas: fight!	10:10
ardchoille	ddavids: I'm sure it is, I just don't know how	10:10
mjrosenb	rww: sweet.	10:10
faileas	hatten_: look for lines starting with *-network	10:10
Arma_	and it would also be more professional if I make a workstation that can download updates and stuff and give them to the clients instead of each one downloading it alone and installing apart which will save bandwidth	10:10
ddavids	nay body help, someone has messed up wt my keyrings (it seems) and now i cant update wtout errors.	10:10
p1oooop1	p1oooop get off... :P	10:10
p1oooop1	hold on, imma go get p1oooop	10:11
hatten_	faileas: faileas found it, *-network DISABLED	10:11
ikonia	p1oooop1: please stop	10:11
faileas	hatten_: is there a eth something there?	10:11
ikonia	p1oooop1: this is a support channel, try to keep to that topic, it's support for ubuntu only	10:11
hatten_	faileas: eth5 O_o	10:11
faileas	hatten_: ah hah! STAGE 3!	10:11
rww	mjrosenb: from the look of it, free modules are in the regular linux-image packages, non-free ones are in linux-restricted-modules-versionnumber-architecture	10:11
hatten_	faileas: that's its logical nome	10:11
hatten_	faileas: name	10:11
rww	mjrosenb: so if you're using the generic kernel, you'd want the linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic metapackages installed, which will pull in the right version packages.	10:12
faileas	hatten_: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces	10:12
ardchoille	I would like one of those "Ubuntu will be release in x days" graphic for my website. Where would I get one?	10:12
hatten_	faileas: nano? bah, vim all the way	10:12
faileas	hatten_: whatever you feel comfy with. nano is newbie friendly	10:12
p1oooop1	there we go	10:12
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p1oooop1	p1oooop ?	10:12
Arma_	solid_liquid, PingFloyd I have a question, would it be better to make a local Ubuntu server which Ubuntu clients will connect to and itself will connect to the Windows server or would it be better to make all clients directly connected to the windows server ?	10:13
hatten_	faileas: i know, im only noob to ubuntu, one year user of arch	10:13
faileas	change any instance of "eth0" under primary network interface to eth5	10:13
mjrosenb	rww: should the tp_smapi (or whatever smapi is called these days) be in there?	10:13
hatten_	faileas: okay, i got it, there are two rows	10:13
hatten_	faileas: 'auto lo' and 'iface lo inet loopback'	10:13
faileas	... wait... what?	10:13
faileas	ok	10:13
hatten_	faileas: that's what inside the interfaces file	10:13
viliny_	Anyone know whats up with playdeb being down?	10:14
Kamokow	ardchoille: As far as I know, most people who have those have made their own PHP scripts that generate the images. (I might be wrong though)	10:14
solid_liquid	Arma_, what you're talking about sounds like a suse server	10:14
faileas	add two lines "auto eth5" and "iface eth5 inet dhcp"	10:14
joaopinto	viliny, the main server failed, we are working on it	10:14
Arma_	solid_liquid: suse ?	10:14
faileas	hatten_: that should fix it. all you need to do is restart your networky stuff, and you'll be goof	10:15
p1oooop1	Kamokow: you are right, using GD	10:15
ardchoille	Kamokow: That's what I was thinking too but thought I'd ask	10:15
p1oooop1	Kamokow: google it ;)	10:15
solid_liquid	Arma_, Novell made sure suse servers integrate seamlessly with windows networks, which is why m$ sells support contracts for suse linux	10:15
p1oooop1	ardchoille: google GD, it can use PHP but PHP is not necessarry for it to work	10:15
hatten_	faileas: yay, one ifup later and I'm connected. Thanks a lot!	10:16
Arma_	solid_liquid: so I have to install suse ? :(	10:16
solid_liquid	Arma_, heh not necessarily	10:16
faileas	hatten_: np. i had a similar issue with a VM a few days back ;p	10:16
solid_liquid	Arma_, it's just the easiest solution	10:16
Arma_	solid_liquid: or maybe opensuse :/ I would like it to be open source	10:16
ardchoille	Kamokow: fouhnd it! http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown	10:16
solid_liquid	Arma_, suse is opensource, just charged for	10:16
p1oooop1	ardchoille: the problem is that you don't just tell it "make image real nice" you need to tell it to do every step of making such image	10:16
rww	mjrosenb: I'm looking, but my computer's being slow	10:16
Kamokow	ardchoille: I also just found it and was going to send. I guess thats not a problem now. Gratz.	10:16
zupper	zon.net	10:17
zupper	shit :	10:17
zupper	:D	10:17
mjrosenb	rww: also, the latest linux-restricted-modules-generic seems to be for 2.6.28-17.22	10:17
p1oooop1	what was that?	10:17
ikonia	zagabar: please control your language	10:17
Arma_	I don't care for the easiet solution, I want it to work in 3 months, I think that's more then enough to pull it through wouldn't it ? and I know that suse and opensuse are the same that's why I said opensuse	10:17
faileas	ikonia: i think you mean zupper? who just did a driveby ;p	10:17
ikonia	ughhh, tab lag	10:18
ikonia	zagabar: sorry , misstab/lag	10:18
solid_liquid	Arma_, my point was this: start with the easiest to see how they made it work so well, and then figure out how to make whatever distro you want do it equally well	10:18
rww	mjrosenb: hmm, that's odd. They must have changed it in Karmic and I never noticed :\	10:18
Arma_	solid_liquid: has it been done before ?	10:18
solid_liquid	Arma_, has what?	10:19
Arma_	if it has then I will find it online and make it through	10:19
mjrosenb	rww: isn't progress great?	10:19
Arma_	I hate to see windows everywhere, it is slooooooow and unstable and I HATE IT	10:19
solid_liquid	Arma_, dunno if you'll find that or not	10:19
Arma_	I want My unversity to have a taste of linux	10:19
solid_liquid	Arma_, you're preaching to the choir	10:19
Arma_	cause once you go linux you never go back	10:19
ikonia	Arma_: ok - what do you actually need support with ?	10:19
solid_liquid	yep	10:20
Arma_	solid_liquid: actually I'm working on it not just preaching	10:20
solid_liquid	Arma_, lol like all of us	10:20
ikonia	Arma_: Microsfot windows is acceptable for some people so please stop ranting about it, this is a support channel, do you need support with Ubuntu ?	10:20
p1oooop1	Arma_: LMAO, you think... the only reason, IMHO that windows is so popular is because it's "easy" to use	10:20
Arma_	I've been working for 3 semesters now on this project and finally I got computers with P2 to work on	10:20
Arma_	p1oooop1: IT IS NOT EASY TO USE	10:20
p1oooop1	Arma_: you ever think of making a kerrighed cluster?	10:20
ikonia	Arma_: stop now	10:20
Arma_	I find linux easier to manipulate :/	10:20
Arma_	but that's just me	10:21
Arma_	ikonia, I got these P2 to install linux on them and hook em up to a windows domain controller	10:21
p1oooop1	oops, wrong channel... sorry ikonia	10:21
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solid_liquid	p1oooop1, no, it's what comes with computers, so it's what people already know, it was the cheapest solution 30 years ago so lots of custom apps have been written for it, and it has vendor lock in	10:21
ikonia	Arma_: ok - so you need support with that ?	10:21
Arma_	and I chose the very first Linux OS I ever used and learned on to impliment the project	10:21
airtonix	!ot	10:21
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	10:21
Arma_	I would like some help with that why not	10:22
rww	mjrosenb: indeed. alright, I don't have anything smapi related under /lib/modules in Karmic with linux-image-generic, so it ain't in that package...	10:22
ikonia	Arma_: ok - what part are you stuck with	10:22
p1oooop1	actually, I was looking for some help with my sound recording	10:22
Arma_	I didn;t start the project yet, I got the computers today, soo I'm doing research	10:22
rww	ooo, that looks useful	10:22
p1oooop1	i cannot record sound for whatever reason... ALSA not working right?	10:22
rww	!info tp-smapi-source \| mjrosenb	10:22
ubottu	mjrosenb: tp-smapi-source (source: tp-smapi): ThinkPad hardware/firmware access modules source. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.40-5 (karmic), package size 56 kB, installed size 108 kB	10:22
Arma_	ikonia: I didn't start the project yet, I got the computers today, soo I'm doing research	10:23
hatten_	hey, when I execute 'crontab -e' it says '/var/spool/cron' is not a directory, bailing out.	10:23
rww	mjrosenb: and these instructions look reasonable for setting it up: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_9.10_(Karmic_Koala)_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Install_HDAPS_-_IBM_Active_Protection_System_Linux_Driver	10:23
p1oooop1	!hi \| xjdeng_	10:24
ubottu	xjdeng_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	10:24
mjrosenb	rww: strange. why did it go from being available as a binary to source only?	10:25
zetheroo	talk about a nightmare ... Network Proxy in Ubuntu :P	10:25
Fra88	server irc.tin.it	10:25
hatten_	hey, when I execute 'crontab -e' it says '/var/spool/cron' is not a directory, bailing out. But as root I can see that the directory is there.	10:25
rww	mjrosenb: I've noticed that trend with a couple of other packages too. There's probably a good reason for it, but I have no idea what it is.	10:26
zetheroo	anyone have success getting network proxying to work in Ubuntu?	10:26
Arma_	thanks a lot guys	10:26
Arma_	later	10:26
mjrosenb	hatten_: do you have read access to the directory and its parent?	10:26
rww	mjrosenb: the folks in #ubuntu-kernel may know, if you're interested in finding out why	10:26
hatten_	mjrosenb: nopes, not as user	10:27
hatten_	mjrosenb: how should i chmod it	10:27
zetheroo	I tried to get it working and then reverted to the default settings and now Synaptic is no longer working .. cannot update the system ... not even through the terminal ...	10:27
hatten_	mjrosenb: right now it's drwxr-xr-x and owned by root	10:27
matteo1990	Hi all, i am trying to make an usb drive (manually)from Ubuntu Live Cd. Are there any problems? Because i get no Kernel in /mount_point/boot ...boot	10:28
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zetheroo	any ideas?	10:28
zetheroo	is it just me or is this channel very quiet!?	10:30
AndyGraybeal	i'm in ubuntu 8.10. i've edited ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs ; the Documents section i've pointed to another folder, set the correct permissions, but when i go to Documents.. it still wants to go to /home/username/Documents .. any ideas?	10:30
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: ever think of doing a symlink instead?	10:31
zetheroo	can anyone see my text?	10:32
p1oooop	zetheroo: naw, it's just all the many people signing on and off	10:32
p1oooop	:)	10:32
zetheroo	oh good - ha	10:32
zetheroo	it's pretty dead in here	10:33
p1oooop	i think everyone's just on break	10:33
zetheroo	usually it's hard to keep up with all that is going on	10:33
p1oooop	wait a few seconds	10:33
zetheroo	:)	10:33
zetheroo	like a synced Ubuntu break? :P	10:33
zetheroo	ha	10:33
sunson	what's the fastest way to create a snapshot of my running system onto a usb flash drive?	10:34
zetheroo	sunson: fastest or simplest?	10:34
zetheroo	:P	10:34
llutz	sunson: sudo rsync -aux / /media/stick	10:34
sunson	zetheroo: simplest	10:34
llutz	sunson: needs unix-fs on stick	10:34
sunson	llutz: but that ain't workie boss	10:34
llutz	sunson: works	10:35
sunson	llutz: I want it to be similar. not identical. it should be an instance of its own. i want it to use its own disk.	10:35
zetheroo	what works for one may not work for another ... :)	10:35
llutz	sunson: thats something different	10:35
zetheroo	sunson: like remaster?	10:35
p1oooop	there we go, I just had to enable a few plugins	10:36
sunson	llutz: probably :)	10:36
llutz	sunson: be more specific next time	10:36
sunson	llutz: it must boot and work as it works right now	10:36
zetheroo	sunson: so you want Ubuntu to run off of a USB Hard drive?	10:37
sunson	zetheroo: kinda like a snapshot "backup"	10:37
AndyGraybeal	plooop yes ... i have been recently	10:37
sunson	zetheroo: if shit happens, i can boot off the drive	10:37
sunson	zetheroo: periodically, repeat the process	10:37
rww	ubottu: language \| sunson	10:37
ubottu	sunson: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	10:37
zetheroo	sunson: yeah .. I get what you mean ... like Ghosting	10:37
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: sounds like a kludge though since this config file isn't working :(	10:37
sunson	zetheroo: right	10:37
zetheroo	sunson: nice thought ...	10:38
zetheroo	;)	10:38
zetheroo	!rsync	10:38
ubottu	rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync	10:38
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: did you try restarting?	10:38
zetheroo	!remastersys	10:38
matteo1990	WJere is the Kernel in the Ubuntu ISO???	10:38
erUSUL	!remaster	10:38
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: i restartd x, but not the whole machine	10:38
ubottu	Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility	10:38
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: will it hurt to do a full restart?	10:39
zetheroo	sunson: you looking? ...	10:39
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: i'll try try it	10:39
ecolitan	when i run mount I see: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro), i have rebooted with fsck on bootup which completed ok, but it still shows like that	10:39
AndyGraybeal	brb	10:39
zetheroo	erUSUL: thanks :)	10:39
llutz	ecolitan: whats wrong with it?	10:39
ecolitan	is there a problem with this parition?	10:39
ecolitan	no problem i can detect	10:39
llutz	ecolitan: did you get any errors/warnings?	10:40
sunson	zetheroo: yeah...	10:40
sunson	zetheroo: apt-cache searching... :)	10:40
ecolitan	llutz; not that I can see	10:40
llutz	ecolitan: that line from "mount" just shows given mount-options	10:40
ecolitan	and not in dmesg	10:40
zetheroo	sunson: no, I mean are you looking at what was being mentioned here ... rsync and !remaster	10:40
ecolitan	just want to be safe	10:41
llutz	ecolitan: (rw,errors=remount-ro) = "/ is mounted rw, but would be remounted ro in case of errors"	10:41
zetheroo	sunson !remaster	10:41
ecolitan	llutz: thats good news	10:41
zetheroo	hmm	10:41
zetheroo	why is that not working ...	10:41
ecolitan	llutz: thanks for the advice	10:41
llutz	!remaster \| sunson	10:41
ubottu	sunson: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility	10:41
zetheroo	llutz: ah ok ... I see	10:42
zetheroo	how do you fully remove the network proxy settings ...?	10:43
andrei112	hi all	10:43
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: okay, still didn't work; any other ideas? i'm gonna rm -rf /home/username/Documents and then ln -s.	10:43
zetheroo	I tried to get the system to connect to the Internet through Network Proxy and it was not working so I reverted back to the default settings and now I cannot install or upgrade anything	10:43
zetheroo	for some reason the proxy settings are stuck in the system somewhere	10:44
llutz	zetheroo: grep -i proxy /etc/apt	10:44
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: I'd backup before I do that though	10:44
zetheroo	Synaptic says : Could not resolve 'proxy'	10:44
llutz	zetheroo: rgrep -i proxy /etc/apt/*	10:44
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: ther's nothing there	10:44
p1oooop	and remember to set the owner of the directory	10:44
AndyGraybeal	aah so the owner, tell me	10:44
zetheroo	llutz: the second one?	10:44
llutz	zetheroo: yes, sry	10:45
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: i have the group set properly	10:45
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: works.	10:45
dole	does anypne know if i can burn an iso image with the cdburn utility from the ubuntu live?	10:45
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: you mean just having the group works ? (i'm sorry)	10:45
rww	dole: Brasero? Yes, it can burn iso files.	10:45
AndyGraybeal	because that's all i thought i needed was the group to be correct -- it's actually a shared Documents folder between two users.	10:46
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: I would assume... I don't mess with permissions much...	10:46
AndyGraybeal	k thank you	10:46
zetheroo	llutz: ok I did that and then sudo apt-get update and it's still not working ... Could not resolve proxy	10:46
llutz	zetheroo: was there any output? that cmd won't fix anything	10:46
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: if it doesn't go ahead and set owner	10:46
AndyGraybeal	ya, i'll try owner now	10:46
AndyGraybeal	thanks	10:46
zetheroo	llutz: no output	10:46
lemignon58	slt	10:47
llutz	zetheroo: "unset http_proxy sudo apt-get update"	10:47
abhi_nav	Hello!	10:47
Avenegra	hello, i've been playing with an alternate bootloader (burg), and was also trying a newer kernel...i've now uninstalled both kernel and burg, got back to grub2 and it's all good, but the removed kernel still shows in the menu! :( i had it remove with --purge and checked /etc/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/grub.d/* ... there aren't references there to that kernel	10:47
gerv	!seen jono	10:48
ubottu	I have no seen command	10:48
zetheroo	llutz: sudo: unset: command not found	10:48
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Avenegra	could be that it's still in the boot sector?	10:48
rww	gerv: /msg nickserv info jono	10:48
llutz	zetheroo: then try "http_proxy='' sudo apt-get update"	10:48
gerv	rww: Thanks.	10:49
dole	rww, i don't think is named brasero..it just says cd/dvd creator and it is opened into nautilus	10:49
gerv	His mail is bouncing.	10:49
abhi_nav	jenkinbr: hey! thnx for you mail	10:49
gerv	Does Aq hang out here?	10:49
zetheroo	llutz: with the quotes?	10:49
llutz	zetheroo: without outer-quotes ='' < two single '	10:50
zetheroo	llutz: ok	10:50
rww	dole: I guess there are two of them. Brasero (Applications -> Sound and Video) definitely can; I've never used the other one.	10:50
dole	ahh. right	10:50
dole	ty ty rww	10:50
zetheroo	llutz: that worked! Thanks a heap	10:50
rww	abhi_nav: Any particular reason you chose to memoserv me?	10:51
llutz	zetheroo: so somewhere http_proxy is set... "rgrep http_proxy ~/*"	10:51
abhi_nav	rww: No! :) last nick was yours on my screen no other reason	10:51
rww	abhi_nav: ah, okay. Probably a good idea to ask first next time :)	10:52
rww	abhi_nav: but yes, I did get it	10:52
abhi_nav	rww: yah sure!	10:52
llutz	zetheroo: and "rgrep http_proxy ~/.*"	10:52
abhi_nav	rww: yah thnx	10:52
abhi_nav	rww ( and sorry for disturbance!) :)	10:52
zetheroo	llutz: searching ....	10:52
lorenzosu	How can I install multiple fonts in one go?	10:52
shaullx	i can't login to ubuntu, i got coffee spilled on my laptop keyboard so now 'shift' is always pressed so when i try to input my password instead of 1 it types !, is there anyway to disable the shift key? idk what to do :/	10:53
p1oooop	lol	10:54
p1oooop	shaullx: try another keyboard.	10:54
shaullx	its a netbook	10:54
abhi_nav	remove that shift key with screwdriver!	10:54
p1oooop	^^ ;)	10:54
grandemahatma	hello. I'm looking for an application that allows you to show pdfs on a beamer while showing notes on your laptop.. anyonw could suggest me one?	10:54
abhi_nav	;)	10:54
shaullx	i tried to remove the key btw	10:54
shaullx	not helping	10:54
p1oooop	grandemahatma: uhh... compiz?	10:55
p1oooop	grandemahatma: I believe there's a feature that can allign it into a grid	10:55
grandemahatma	p1oooop: ok, the idea would be that when I change page in the pdf, the corresponding notes are shown on the laptop	10:56
brijithmac	can any one help me to configure Evolution to access me gmail account	10:56
grandemahatma	you know something like MSoffice does with ppt..	10:56
rww	shaullx: click the person-in-a-circle icon in the bottom right, click Use on-screen keyboard, use that.	10:56
p1oooop	grandemahatma: ahh, I believe openoffice can convert PDF into .odf files and from there, I believe you can add notes onto each page	10:57
grandemahatma	I'll have a look. thanks p1oooop	10:58
abhi_nav	how many o on that plooooooop?	10:59
p1oooop	abhi_nav: 4	10:59
AndyGraybeal	if i'm on 8.10 and i do: apt-get dist-upgrade .... will i go to 9.something?	10:59
p1oooop	sorry, watching TV at the same time	10:59
* abhi_nav is weak in maths!		10:59
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: I think 9.4	11:00
AndyGraybeal	p1oooop: okay thankyou	11:00
p1oooop	AndyGraybeal: and from there, to 9.10 if you dist upgrade again	11:00
p1oooop	(I think )	11:00
AndyGraybeal	aah okay interesting	11:00
rww	AndyGraybeal: If you don't change your sources.list file, no.	11:00
AndyGraybeal	yea, i don't want to move yet.. i'm afraid i'd hbreak everything	11:00
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AndyGraybeal	rww: aah please explain	11:00
rww	AndyGraybeal: one second, there's a link that explains this nicely	11:01
AndyGraybeal	thank you!	11:01
p1oooop	oh yeah... :P forgot about the extra line..	11:01
abhi_nav	how to pm a user using command from this text box?	11:01
AndyGraybeal	i don't want to upgrade, i just want updated packages.. but when i do apt-get upgrade .. it says i have the latest ...	11:02
Kamokow	How can I get auto-indents to work in gedit? I turned them on, restarted, chose C++ as the syntax to highlight, yet it still doesnt auto-indent :-/	11:02
p1oooop	abhi_nav: what program you using?	11:02
rww	AndyGraybeal: ttp://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html	11:02
AndyGraybeal	thank you rww	11:02
rww	AndyGraybeal: (sorry, throw a h at the start of that :)	11:02
AndyGraybeal	yup	11:02
p1oooop	abhi_nav: I believe its /pm (person)	11:02
p1oooop	I might be wrong	11:02
rww	AndyGraybeal: the concepts are really confusing, let me know if you have questions	11:02
abhi_nav	ploooop:xchat	11:02
abhi_nav	ploooop: ok	11:03
rww	abhi_nav: /msg theirnicknamehere message goes here	11:03
p1oooop	abhi_nav: /msg (person)	11:03
abhi_nav	rww: plooop: ok	11:03
abhi_nav	rww: plooop: it was the /msg nick. its working. thanx	11:05
AndyGraybeal	rww: thank you ... i think i'm just gonna stay away from it - wish the repos for 8.10 had more up-to-date software :)	11:05
dole	if i'm running the live ubuntu version from a cd, how csan i eject the cd in order to burn something on a blank cd?	11:06
abhi_nav	sudo eject	11:06
rww	AndyGraybeal: Probably a good idea :). Just so you know, though, 8.10 is only supported until this April, so I'd recommend upgrading before then.	11:06
abhi_nav	(?)	11:06
adri_	I cannot enable basic desktop effects in Ubuntu. It searches for available drivers for a while and then fails. I did install the proprietary FGLRX drivers, but Ubuntu says they are "enabled but not in use" -- I have an ATI mobility radeon 3650.	11:07
abhi_nav	dole: creat bootable usb from that live cd. boot from that usb and then write cd	11:07
rww	dole: You don't. You need to either 1) have two CD drives or 2) make a LiveUSB stick and boot from it.	11:07
dole	abhi_nav: it says that cdrom is busy and can't be unmounted	11:07
abhi_nav	dole: creat bootable usb from that live cd. boot from that usb and then write cd	11:08
pjmtlg	adri : you tried aticonfig __initial -f ?	11:08
dole	aha, ty guys :)	11:08
pjmtlg	--initial	11:08
zetheroo	llutz: still has not found anything	11:08
rww	The LiveCD contains a program for making LiveUSBs, and you can make a LiveUSB from the currently-running CD I believe, so that's nice and easy.	11:08
s7	hello, can someone help me sort out this: fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified	11:11
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erUSUL	s7: did you actually specified a mailserver (via configuration file or comman line)?	11:16
s7	no i never and am wondering how to do that	11:17
safatb	HI EVERYBODY FROM TURKEY	11:17
erUSUL	s7: why you need to use fetchmail? why not use a integrated mal client like evolution or thunderbird ?	11:19
erUSUL	safatb: hi; wellcome to ubuntu. drop the caps please	11:19
s7	cool, i can try evolution	11:19
JonathanEllis	Anyone know how to stop gmail indenting quoted text in a reply?	11:22
safatb	ok man	11:23
iceroot	JonathanEllis: dont think that has something todo with ubuntu	11:24
dole	why i can't see the content of Documents and Settings of a windows 7 from Ubuntu?	11:24
raddy	Hello Everybody	11:25
safatb	Is there anyone from TurkeY?	11:25
safatb	Türk var mı?	11:25
dole	how can i see how is named each partition...sda...??	11:26
psycho_oreos	mount	11:26
raddy	Our guys installed CentOS 5.4 after installing ubuntu 9.1x	11:26
raddy	Because it uses ext4, grub and centos didn't detect that.	11:26
raddy	I am finding very difficult to resolve the issue.	11:26
safatb	ok byee	11:27
raddy	Grub was able to mount the drive.	11:27
psycho_oreos	raddy, you should have installed centos first before ubuntu	11:27
faileas	raddy: centos tends to have slightly older stuff. i thought ext4 was backwards compatable, though. maybe reinstall grub2 the way you would should grub be overwritten by windows?	11:27
* faileas wonders why someone would dualboot server OSes		11:27
raddy	But it says invalid folder when pointing the kernel image.	11:28
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erUSUL	!tk	11:28
Leoneof	hi, have very simple script to run "sudo pon dsl-provider", but it is ask for root Password, how to run without password?	11:28
erUSUL	!turkey	11:29
ubottu	Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.	11:29
faileas	erUSUL: he left	11:29
Leoneof	:/	11:29
erUSUL	faileas: ok; ty	11:29
wolf	hi to all	11:29
wolf	i need help	11:29
wolf	i can't install	11:29
wolf	amsn	11:29
wolf	for xubuntu	11:29
erUSUL	!ask \| wolf	11:29
FloodBot2	wolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	11:29
ubottu	wolf: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	11:29
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p1oooop	wolf: try pidgin?	11:30
Guest27404	hi	11:30
Guest27404	i'm trying to install	11:30
Guest27404	amsn for xubuntu	11:30
faileas	wolf: what error?	11:30
Guest27404	but when i insert the code in the shell	11:30
Guest27404	xubuntu says that amsn package is not available	11:31
Guest27404	how can i solve it'	11:31
Guest27404	?	11:31
kolby	Leoneof, It sounds like something that inherently requires escalated user rights.	11:31
psycho_oreos	!info amsn	11:31
ubottu	amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98.1~debian-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 269 kB, installed size 880 kB	11:31
psycho_oreos	!universe	11:31
ubottu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories	11:31
raddy	I'll come back here after noting down the exact error.	11:32
kolby	Leoneof, you can use 'gksudo' to prompt the user for a password	11:32
Guest27404	so what i have to do'	11:32
Guest27404	?	11:32
Leoneof	kolby: yes?	11:32
psycho_oreos	Guest27404, enable universe repository and install amsn from there	11:32
Guest27404	how can i enable universe repository?	11:33
Guest27404	sorry i'm a novice	11:33
psycho_oreos	!universe \| Guest27404	11:33
ubottu	Guest27404: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories	11:33
psycho_oreos	read those	11:33
kolby	Leoneof, unless there's some way to pipe the password to 'sudo'	11:33
Leoneof	kolby: how about changing attributes in pon file?	11:34
psycho_oreos	you could add that application into sudoers file specifying nopasswd, so when you run sudo with that application it won't ask you for password	11:34
Kunalagon	hello, I booted latest ubutnu, and try to do something in live mode, but almost every program crashes, nautilus just disapper, openoffice, starts and before it loads document, say CRASH, gnome panel..disapiar...	11:35
psycho_oreos	Kunalagon, how much RAM do you have in that computer?	11:36
Kunalagon	psycho_oreos: 4 GB	11:36
psycho_oreos	Kunalagon, weird, might be a bad burn	11:36
Kunalagon	psycho_oreos: some Intel i5 750...	11:36
Kunalagon	I booted from USB, I made usb live disk using unetbootin tool	11:36
psycho_oreos	9.10?	11:37
Kunalagon	psycho_oreos: do you think, that should not happend? not even PC is too new ?	11:37
Kunalagon	9.10, yes	11:37
psycho_oreos	well heck the iso could fail md5sum too prior to using unetbootin I suppose lol	11:37
psycho_oreos	Kunalagon, it shouldn't happen I think, you got i386 right?	11:37
psycho_oreos	or i686	11:37
SenoynaUser	who knows installing manually pdt on aptana studio ?	11:37
Kunalagon	hm, hm, hm psycho_oreos	11:37
SenoynaUser	who knows installing manually pdt on aptana studio ?	11:37
psycho_oreos	!repeat \| SenoynaUser	11:38
ubottu	SenoynaUser: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.	11:38
ciccio_	ciao	11:38
Kunalagon	psycho_oreos: I am not sure, it is intel, should be, i686	11:38
Maleko	how do you specify multiple -iname patterns in Find? AND symbol or something	11:38
psycho_oreos	Kunalagon, you're not sure of which iso image you downloaded and used unetbootin on?	11:38
Kunalagon	oh, no, no, I am sure	11:38
Kunalagon	it is 686	11:39
qebab	Hi. My wireless network seems to arbitrarily stop working after anything between 15 minutes and 30 minutes of connectivity after upgrading from 9.4 to 9.10. lshw -C network lists the card as PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection, it doesn't show any line with configuration: ... in it. I stay connected to the wireless, but I seem to have an immense packetloss or loss of signal. The card works fine in my dualbooted windows. Any idea of what I sho	11:39
Kunalagon	(I think :)	11:39
psycho_oreos	Kunalagon, hmm hard to say, I was thinking of the rarest possibility, missing CPU flags or bad USB lol	11:40
sisif	Hello guys. Quick question: how can I force Twinview to use a specific resolution for both display? (there are identical) ?	11:41
qebab	This is absurd. I haven't observed the problem at all while I've been researching how to fix it the last hour. Maybe it got scared. :-)	11:44
Guest27404	sorry there's another problem	11:47
Guest27404	with xubuntu i try to	11:48
Guest27404	open a shell	11:48
Guest27404	but i can't install anything	11:48
Guest27404	using the code in the window sudo...	11:48
myrtti	Guest27404: so how are you actually doing it?	11:49
qebab	Not to be annoying or anything, but I work in tech support and that kind of feedback is difficult for us to handle - it's not very clear what you're trying to do, why you're trying to do it, and how you're observing the error. :-)	11:49
Guest27404	sorry i tell you more	11:49
ubuntu	hello :)	11:49
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Guest27404	i'm tryng to open a shell	11:50
Guest27404	pressing ctrl + f1	11:50
ubuntu	:)	11:50
Guest27404	and i login in my screen	11:50
Guest27404	and then i press the code fpr amsn	11:50
myrtti	ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-f1?	11:50
Guest27404	ctrl alt f1	11:50
Guest27404	sorry	11:50
Guest27404	i'm a noob	11:50
ubuntu	who knows how many rams need to use xubuntu ?	11:51
myrtti	Guest27404: you are aware xubuntu has terminal apps that you can launch within the graphical interface?	11:51
Guest27404	yes i'm sure	11:51
Guest27404	previously i installed xubuntu	11:51
Guest27404	and amsn	11:51
myrtti	Guest27404: and you type in "sudo aptitude install amsn"?	11:51
Guest27404	i've installed in this way	11:52
myrtti	Guest27404: so which part fails?	11:52
ubuntu	192 mb is enough ?	11:52
Guest27404	so the shell says yhat can't find amsn package	11:52
Guest27404	but i think the code that i put was correct	11:52
strange	is there a commandline command to see what packages i have installed since my box was fully installed?	11:54
myrtti	Guest27404: if you go to applications - system - software sources, is the community maintained Open Source software (universe) box ticked?	11:54
pityonline	Hi there! I got a problem with my linksys router, can anybody do me some favor?	11:54
meco	Can someone help me with the clock? Even though I have set it to automatically synchronize with Internet time servers, it's one hour off.	11:54
Guest27404	so i do the command	11:55
Guest27404	sudo aptitude install amsn	11:55
ubuntu	I can't open firefox, what I should do?	11:55
Guest27404	and says that can't find package amsn	11:55
Guest27404	i can install amsn in another way	11:55
Guest27404	without shell??	11:55
myrtti	Guest27404: yes	11:55
Guest27404	how?	11:55
pityonline	Hi there! I got a problem with my linksys router, can anybody do me some favor?	11:55
myrtti	Guest27404: applications - add/remove	11:55
flodine	can someone tell me why ubuntu 9.10 keeps locking up on me?	11:56
minus007	I want to learn about the Ubuntu System structure.. For example, in Windows we have a setup file which installs software. However, in Ubuntu, this is different. A program can have several dependencies. And when I compile from souce, configure.sh halts at each dependency. Why doesn't the dependent library get installed automatically?	11:56
meco	ubuntu: Can you click the Firefox icon?	11:56
Guest27404	and then?	11:56
myrtti	minus007: how would it know what dependencies it's lacking, if you're compiling from source?	11:56
myrtti	Guest27404: search for it, install	11:56
minus007	It shows the dependent library	11:56
minus007	And I have to download the source and install that library	11:57
Guest27404	the system are refreshing the screen with an update	11:57
pityonline	Hi there! I got a problem with my linksys router, can anybody do me some favor?	11:57
myrtti	!repeat \| pityonline	11:58
ubottu	pityonline: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.	11:58
flodine	can someone tell me why ubuntu 9.10 keeps locking up on me?but if i run lucid i have no problems	11:58
Guest27404	but can't modify the udpdate	11:58
pityonline	i set the web port of the router 80 to 22, now i cannot manage it on website.	11:58
minus007	myritti: Where can I learn the structure of Ubuntu?	11:59
Guest27404	myrrti i'm trying pingdin	12:00
Guest27404	is it similar to msn?	12:00
psycho_oreos	somewhat	12:00
iflema	minus007 https://help.ubuntu.com/	12:01
Wubuntu	Hi, i'm using Karmic 9.10 and have a Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera that i can't seem to get to function properly. Can anyone assist me with this problem?	12:05
sean	hello!	12:06
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principale	cant load videos	12:06
zvacet	!hi \| sean	12:07
ubottu	sean: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	12:07
erUSUL	!webcam \| Wubuntu	12:08
ubottu	Wubuntu: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	12:08
pookey	hi all - I have a multi-monitor setup, but maximising windows spans multiple screens. I have a 4 head card, and it seems they are operating in pairs... I'm not sure what to google for - is there a way of defining where monitors start/end ?	12:09
ja660k	what is the difference between BOURNE script and a BASH script?	12:11
indus	chrome always crashes	12:12
l3ns	hi everyone.	12:14
vasan	i have an error while booting grub error 5	12:16
vasan	how to solve?	12:16
dheeraj	indus:what error it shows?	12:17
aTsgR	hey any1 using apache on ubuntu server?	12:17
usuario_	ola	12:18
iflema	vasan how big is the hardrive? how old is the computer?	12:18
usuario_	k tal?¿	12:18
usuario_	ahh hello haow are you?¿	12:19
indus	dheeraj, its just beta so many pages crash or freeze	12:21
indus	dheeraj, never mind	12:21
dheeraj	indus:if u r ok with it...	12:22
hystreni	i cant find my AMSN history, iits empty in the folder, and it dont save my Wbcam history either...	12:22
bananoneforever	ciao	12:22
bananoneforever	!list	12:22
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	12:22
indus	dheeraj, ya how do you find chrome?	12:22
bananoneforever	fuckkkkkkkk	12:22
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indus	dheeraj, it says AW SNAP! quite often doesnt it	12:22
dheeraj	indus,i find it really good except for some plugins not avilable	12:23
dheeraj	indus,i have seen that but it crashes rarely	12:23
hystreni	can some1 help me?	12:23
* frankS2 helps some1		12:24
dheeraj	indus,do u use any firewall?	12:24
indus	dheeraj, in ubuntu? no i have a router with hardwrae firewall isnt that enough	12:25
indus	dheeraj, i mean the isp one	12:25
dheeraj	indus,in ubuntu..any software firewall installed?	12:25
dheeraj	indus,i guess u use windows....am i right?	12:26
Draggin	Good afternoon... Can anyone point me in the right direction... How do I install certain applications only for certain users on a multi-user Ubuntu system?	12:27
becker_11	I have a ubuntu karmic with everything gnome uninstalled and xfce desktop added is there a way to install gnome without getting every app thats included??	12:28
indus	dheeraj, no i use ubuntu	12:28
indus	thats why iam here	12:28
iceroot	becker_11: sudo apt-get install gnome	12:29
iceroot	becker_11: instead of ubuntu-desktop	12:29
becker_11	iceroot: thankyou	12:29
archboxman	what its all linux there might be few different sets that all... Linux is linux.. Have to say ubuntu is leading the way, bit different... :)	12:29
archboxman	If you understand how to use cli then your 95% good to go in linux ...	12:31
indus	so do any one of you here use a firewall?	12:31
iceroot	archboxman: linux is a kernel and not bash	12:31
iceroot	!anyone \| indus	12:31
ubottu	indus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	12:31
indus	iceroot, ?	12:31
archboxman	iceroot: well thats odd I thought it was an OS???	12:32
indus	so question is, how is my system protected from the crazyh internet world	12:32
becker_11	iceroot: gave it a shot but too many things were dependent and not going to be installed it said so I had to go for the ubuntu-desktop	12:32
iceroot	indus: with up to date packages	12:33
iceroot	indus: ports are only opened if a program is started	12:33
indus	iceroot, that doesnt hide your ip	12:33
becker_11	archboxman: linux is the kernel developed by linux torvalds Gnu/Linux is the operating system	12:33
indus	are you telling me, a person cant enter my system if a program is not running? sorry i find it hard to believe	12:33
ndlovu	if I'm in /home/user, and I want to tar folder myfiles, how would I tell it to only preserve the myfiles directory in the tar archive?	12:34
becker_11	archboxman: gnu.org	12:34
faileas	indus: unless you're running servers, it isn't entirely necessary. ubuntu does come with ufw, though, should you need an easy way to set up a firewall	12:34
archboxman	becker_11: funny I thought the idea was freedom to use programs.....	12:34
Kenjiro	good morning	12:34
iceroot	indus: if you think a firewall is for hiding an ip you are very very wrong	12:34
DaemonFC	indus, I always have a firewall in place simply because a port scanner would get a reply from the system otherwise, even if there are no open ports	12:34
becker_11	archboxman: in regards to what sorry	12:34
iceroot	indus: maybe read something about networking	12:34
archboxman	Seeing how that was the main compliant ... why isn't it free	12:34
ndlovu	tar -c --strip-components 2 /home/user/myfiles ?	12:34
DaemonFC	I don't want them knowing my system is there, a firewall stops my machine from replying	12:35
Kenjiro	guys, I am fairly new to Ubuntu. I would like to know where I can check the './configure' options I need to compile openldap (an old version) so it will be in conformity with ubuntu standards	12:35
becker_11	indus: that would be a proxy more so than a firewall	12:35
indus	so a firewall doesnt hide an ip? what exactly does it do then	12:35
motaka2	where can i find repositories concerning php5.3 for ubuntu 8.3	12:35
iceroot	indus: controlling the traffic	12:35
indus	iceroot, iam pretty much wrong yes thats why i ask here	12:35
iceroot	indus: man iptable	12:35
DaemonFC	the fact that the system replies "port is closed" is already far too much, because now they know there is a system there	12:35
becker_11	indus: stops packets from entering your system while letting allowed packets in and out	12:35
iceroot	indus: there you will find what a firewall is/can do	12:36
DaemonFC	firewall is not going to hurt anything, I just turn it on and set it to deny unsolicited traffic	12:36
indus	well, most tutorials say no need of it in ubuntu but ..	12:36
archboxman	iceroot: security is the idea of combining standards to make your computer safe from the router down to the computer...	12:36
iceroot	indus: you dont need a firewall	12:36
indus	someone here can send a port scan request	12:36
becker_11	DaemonFC: that's it start firewall create first rule block all inbound :-)	12:37
iceroot	indus: ip?	12:37
Wubuntu	Is there a suitable driver for my webcam (Microdia webcam:Vender ID 0c45:600d Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera)?	12:37
DaemonFC	indus, I respectfully disagree with those tutorials then	12:37
indus	and what if firefox is running, wouldnt the scanner know that port 80 is open	12:37
iceroot	indus: firefox is not a webserver so why should port 80 be opened?	12:37
l3ns	i just downloaded tcptrack. but it only tracks traffic in this machine only. not on every machine that is connected to this network.. is there other tools available in ubuntu that does this?	12:37
iceroot	indus: please read some network-basics	12:37
becker_11	indus: www.grc.com go check out sheilds up it's a port tester and very very good at explaining what you are looking for	12:38
indus	iceroot, i thojught a web browser listen s on port 80	12:38
iceroot	indus: and why should firefox open port 80 on your client?	12:38
becker_11	indus: grc.com also has forums I learnt an incredible amount from that site and forum	12:39
archboxman	indus: remember the more security you put up... the different the effect will be...	12:39
rww	indus: Web servers listen on port 80. Web browsers don't.	12:39
indus	rww, hello , thanks	12:39
DaemonFC	indus, sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw default deny and never worry about it again, good for most desktop users	12:39
iceroot	indus: again, you dont need a firewall on your system	12:39
indus	rww, so i ask again, when firefox is running, it doesnt open port 80?i saw that in preferences too	12:39
iceroot	indus: nmap -p 80 localhost while firefox is running	12:40
DaemonFC	iceroot, If it won't hurt anything but it will stop port scanners from knowing there is a machine at that address, where is the harm?	12:40
becker_11	indus: it uses port 80 to get http traffic but it doesn't open it or listen on it	12:40
iceroot	DaemonFC: a virusscanner on linux can make your system also safer....	12:40
rww	DaemonFC: deny is the ufw default now, so it's even easier than that :)	12:40
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indus	becker_11, could you tell me a little what means to get http traffic	12:41
becker_11	indus: a browser also uses port 443 and possibly 21	12:41
DaemonFC	iceroot, I wouldn't go as far as a virus scanner until there actually are viruses out there, but iptables settings don't slow a PC down	12:41
DaemonFC	or get confused and delete pieces of the OS :)	12:41
archboxman	indus: this is a subject that takes you to learn your system... There is no way for anyone in here to say a piece of hardware is not opening a port you need to look at your system...	12:41
rww	"sudo ufw enable" and you're done :)	12:41
DaemonFC	virus scanners do that to Windows users in a comedy of errors :)	12:41
vasan	iflema: 160 GB harddrive one year old	12:41
iceroot	DaemonFC: but there is no reason for a firewall	12:42
iceroot	DaemonFC: unless you want some routing	12:42
indus	well,in my router my firewall is enabled. what is that for?	12:42
adri_	I cannot use alt to type additional characters on Ubuntu 9.10. I checked xev and I don't get a KeyPress/KeyRelease event when I press any of the alt keys, only a KeyMapNotify.	12:42
iceroot	indus: its getting offtopic	12:42
ndlovu	is there not some way to tell tar to ignore all directories above the current directory?	12:42
indus	it is?	12:42
DaemonFC	iceroot, There's some reason to turn it on, it provides some protection at no overhead and very low risk of interfering with anything legit	12:43
iceroot	indus: of course	12:43
DaemonFC	That's kind of how I view it	12:43
Zus	is anyone having issue with volume in firefox on youtube? dont hear anything...(my rythmbox and system does fine)	12:43
DaemonFC	I also have all apparmor policies installed and enforced	12:43
abhi_nav_	!xfce	12:43
ubottu	Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels	12:43
vasan	I got grub 5 error... how to solve this???	12:43
motaka2	can anyone help me figuring out for having native ttf configured on my php what should package should i download ?	12:43
abhi_nav_	whats the exact purpose and target audience of xfce?	12:44
DaemonFC	abhi_nav_, Stripped down desktop for old PCs mainly I believe is the target audience	12:44
archboxman	indus: I told you already hardware is different and everyones setup is different .... You need to look up basic setups... I could buy a Cisco router that has firewall, Webserver and a server built in one does this make it good perhaps ,but it is all how you use security...	12:44
becker_11	abhi_nav_: xfce is for systems that are slightly older than the latest and greatest and for users that don't want alot of overhead on their systems	12:44
indus	because, i remember using zonealarm in windows, so was wondering about ubuntu	12:45
becker_11	abhi_nav_: I like xfce because it is lighter than gnome and runs faster on my system	12:45
abhi_nav_	DaemonFC: & becker_11: ok should i install it on my ubuntu to get more speed and performance? I now have gnome	12:45
indus	and zonealarm keeps saying this attempt blvocked etc even though i dont run anhy web servers	12:45
iceroot	indus: for what you need a firewall?	12:45
DaemonFC	indus, Totally different thing. ufw is just a way to set iptables, which is built into the kernel.	12:45
Kenjiro	I would like to know where I can check the './configure' options I need to compile openldap-2.3.30 (an old version) so it will be in conformity with ubuntu standards	12:46
iceroot	indus: sorry but you even dont know what firefox is doing when surfing	12:46
becker_11	abhi_nav_: sure	12:46
DaemonFC	Zonealarm is an entire filtering engine full of bloat sitting in userspece and tapped into your TCP/IP stack	12:46
abhi_nav_	DaemonFC: & becker_11: ok thnx	12:46
indus	iceroot, thats what iam asking whether i need it or not, iam not running anything	12:46
indus	iceroot, i dont like your tone btw	12:46
DaemonFC	indus, Zonealarm is a resource sapper like most Windows security software, ufw jsut writes iptables settings and has almost no overhead	12:47
Stargaze	folx my gpg --clearsign won't work	12:47
Stargaze	hints & tips pls? :)	12:47
archboxman	iceroot: that was not nice give him a break :)	12:47
iceroot	indus: you dont need a firewall on a linux-desktop-pc maybe you need a firewall if you are using vpn at home to your company and want protect others from the lan to go through the vpn tunnel	12:47
morena	Olaa	12:47
indus	anyways, i dont have any more questions, ill google it	12:47
morena	alguieen k able español?	12:47
rww	ubottu: es \| morena	12:47
ubottu	morena: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	12:47
abhi_nav_	assume a condition where, anyhow my host ubuntu is unable to connect to internet by any menas. then will my clean installation of guest ubuntu on vm wll connect to internet? (assume that no hardware prob. every hardware is in ok condition)	12:47
iceroot	indus: maybe you want something like a router/nat	12:47
indus	iceroot, i have a router given by my isp, which has firewall enabled in it anyways	12:48
viliny_	indus, not beating around the bush - firestarter seems like the program you want	12:48
archboxman	indus: just keep in mind this can be complex... you need to take inventory of all the hardware and its abilities, but you need to start at basics of security...	12:48
indus	iceroot, anyway thanks , ill read more about this somewhere else	12:48
DaemonFC	on Windows machines, I just leave the built in "firewall" going because third party software makes the s