[02:50] <likemindead> Anyone running Lucid? If so, likes & dislikes thus far?
[03:54] <likemindead> Zzz...
[03:59] <anom01y> Hi I have ubuntu 9.10, when I do apt-get update it gets to 92% then gives me a input/output error
[03:59] <anom01y> http://pastebin.ca/1816488
[06:14] <Balsaq> good morning Lords of the Code....
[06:46] <_Techie_> morning
[06:46] <psycho_oreos> arvo
[06:47] <_Techie_> its actually 7:46pm here but i stil say morning
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> lol
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> for those living in the North America I gather? ;)
[06:52] <Balsaq> hello _Techie_
[06:53] <Balsaq> and psycho_oreos
[06:53] <Balsaq> western MA usa
[06:53] <_Techie_> may i be of any help today?
[06:55] <Balsaq> well right now i somehow accidentally made the dadgum curser on my xchat really really fat
[06:56] <Balsaq> where you print the spoken word, that cursor
[06:56] <Balsaq> i hit a key and now it fat
[06:56] <Balsaq> buggin the hech outta me
[06:57] <_Techie_> i dont think i can help you with that
[06:57] <Balsaq> yeah
[06:58] <_Techie_> im prolly gonna get told off for this, but
[06:59] <_Techie_> WATCH "REPO: THE GENETIC OPERA" IF YOU HAVENT OR IF YOUR BORED OF PLAIN OLD FILMS
[07:00] <_Techie_> help make it a cult classic
[07:07] <Balsaq> ah it was the insert key...fixed it
[07:07] <Balsaq> who knew
[07:07] <Balsaq> have you tried 10.04 _Techie_?
[07:08] <_Techie_> no
[07:08] <_Techie_> but im currently running win7 ultimate
[07:08] <Balsaq> whoah!
[07:08] <Balsaq> i got premium
[07:08] <Balsaq> PM
[07:08] <_Techie_> kk
[07:08] <_Techie_> you start it
[07:14] <psycho_oreos> hello Balsaq
[07:57] <_Techie_> time to play some CoD4
[08:18] <titan_ark> Hey! I am in a bit of a trouble. I changed some code in 2 files and saved em by the old name! Is there a way to recover the old files? I edited them in gedit =(
[08:28] <TheSheep> titan_ark: only if you are using a version control system
[08:28] <TheSheep> titan_ark: which is generally a great idea if you are writing code
[08:30] <titan_ark> TheSheep, managed to recover them, there was a backup witha  trailing ~
[08:30] <TheSheep> cool, but I would still learn to use a version control system
[08:31] <titan_ark> TheSheep, okay. need to find out what that is
[08:31] <TheSheep> titan_ark: try hgint.com, it's a good tutorial
[08:31] <TheSheep> hginit.com
[08:32] <TheSheep> titan_ark: it's especially useful if you plan to ever work as a programmer professionally
[08:33] <titan_ark> TheSheep, :) cool thanks a ton!
[12:00] <kangarooo> hello something wrong with my computer display settings. installed xubuntu 2 days ago. but 15min ago when started computer display settings was 800x600 and i cant change in setings->display to higher resolution couse higher resolution options are not showing
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> assuming you did install the proprietary drivers for your video card/chip?
[12:01] <TheSheep> kangarooo: what did you do just before that happened?
[12:02] <kangarooo> changed grub. sudo mousepad etc/default/grub and changed to grub only be visible only 1 second. then sudo update-grub
[12:03] <kangarooo> then restarted
[12:03] <TheSheep> kangarooo: nothing else?
[12:03] <TheSheep> kangarooo: any updates or anything?
[12:03] <kangarooo> yes nothing else. only using firefox and skype. clean install. vlc installed ntfs config installed
[12:04] <TheSheep> kangarooo: can you pastebin the output of the 'xrandr' command?
[12:04] <kangarooo> i last 2 days iwe made 4 xubuntu installations for my friends :)
[12:04] <kangarooo> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 800 x 600, maximum 2048 x 2048
[12:04] <kangarooo> VGA1 connected 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[12:04] <kangarooo>    800x600        60.3*
[12:04] <kangarooo>    640x480        59.9
[12:05] <TheSheep> !pastebin
[12:05] <TheSheep> (for the future)
[12:05] <TheSheep> kangarooo: now 'lspci | grep VGA' ?
[12:06] <kangarooo> ah yes ok. im usually using one programm witch auto puts output to pastebin. its called pastebinit. :) ok
[12:06] <kangarooo> but if its only one line then also pastebin ?
[12:07] <TheSheep> no, paste it directly
[12:07] <kangarooo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[12:08] <TheSheep> kangarooo: ok, now
[12:08] <TheSheep> kangarooo: 'lsmod | grep video'
[12:09] <kangarooo> http://pastebin.com/uewnhqKk
[12:10] <TheSheep> hmm... it looks good
[12:10] <TheSheep> any external monitor?
[12:11] <kangarooo> no
[12:13] <TheSheep> kangarooo: what version of xubuntu is that?
[12:13] <kangarooo> 9.10 2 days ago installed
[12:14] <kangarooo> 2 days ago dowloaded. but still asking for 180mb of update
[12:15] <TheSheep> kangarooo: I found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution#Problem:  Resolution with Intel graphics was correct in Intrepid or Jaunty (with no xorg.conf configuration) but is limited in Karmic
[12:15] <kangarooo> i reinstalled also my laptop today and it asked only 148mb of updates but yesterday and after yesterday on PCs updates was 180mb
[12:16] <kangarooo> but yesterday on this computer resolution was much bigger till 1400 something
[12:17] <TheSheep> kangarooo: I would try that modeset trick in the /etc/defaults/grub
[12:18] <kangarooo> i set from 10 to 1 GRUB_TIMEOUT="1"
[12:19] <TheSheep> change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash modeset=0"
[12:20] <kangarooo> sudo mousepad /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[12:20] <kangarooo> ok
[12:21] <kangarooo> done so now i restart and come back
[12:21] <TheSheep> yes
[12:24] <TheSheep> any luck?
[12:24] <kangarooo> TheSheep: nothing changed. even in grub didnt saw any changes. video resolutions still showing only those 2 small resolutions
[12:25] <TheSheep> update-grub2 maybe
[12:25] <kangarooo> done now restarting
[12:28] <kangarooo> oh wait forgot to look at grub :) but that doesnt change anything in resolutions
[12:28] <TheSheep> ok, can you pastebing your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:28] <TheSheep> pastebin
[12:28] <kangarooo> why should i change grub if problem is not ingrub. i need resolution to work
[12:28] <kangarooo> ok
[12:29] <TheSheep> kangarooo: resolutions in Karmic are now detected by kernel on startup, and it's grub that passes parameters to kernel that may affect resolution detecting
[12:34] <kangarooo> http://pastebin.com/9wNge4pP
[12:35] <kangarooo> eh sory so long i was trying to get pastebinit to work. installed pastebinit and tryd pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log but it showed only link to http://pastebin.com
[12:39] <TheSheep> kangarooo: this is a laptop or a desktop computer with a monitor screen?
[12:39] <kangarooo> desktop pc with lcd wxga philips monitor
[12:40] <kangarooo> 19" 1440x900
[12:41] <TheSheep> it looks like the monitor suddenly stopped reporting correctly what resolutions it supports
[12:41] <kangarooo> maybe somehow its possible to put old grub back? the one from clean install?
[12:41] <TheSheep> it's not the grub
[12:41] <kangarooo> yeah but maybe after update-grub it started thinking theres no monitor or lost some line
[12:43] <TheSheep> can you try this command: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900
[12:43] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:43] <TheSheep> it's: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900
[12:44] <kangarooo> xrandr: cannot find mode 1440x900
[12:44] <kangarooo> and tryd also xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 and it didnt showed anything
[12:44] <TheSheep> xrandr --addmode VGA1 1440x900
[12:44] <TheSheep> how about this one?
[12:45] <kangarooo> xrandr: cannot find mode "1440x900"
[12:45] <TheSheep> groan
[12:45] <kangarooo> groan: command not found
[12:46] <TheSheep> heh
[12:46] <TheSheep> ok, lets try editing xorg.conf
[12:46] <TheSheep> do: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:47] <TheSheep> then copy the first example from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20resolution%20changes%20in%20xorg.conf%20--%20resolution%20lower%20than%20expected
[12:48] <kangarooo> wow its empty
[12:48] <TheSheep> yeah, it's autodetected by default
[12:48] <TheSheep> we are going to disable autodetection
[12:49] <kangarooo> all whats in the middle from line Change the default xorg.conf  till line To ? or from line To ?
[12:49] <TheSheep> wait, i will make it
[12:50] <TheSheep> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/184255/
[12:50] <TheSheep> here
[12:50] <TheSheep> put this in there
[12:51] <TheSheep> save and logout and log back in
[12:52] <kangarooo> why ctrl alt backspace isnt working anymore?
[12:53] <TheSheep> somebody wanted to use it for something else and complained that it restarted his X
[12:53] <kangarooo> ok im comming back
[12:53]  * ablomen has hit ctrl+alt+backspace many, many times by accident
[12:53] <ablomen> and i guess im not the only one
[12:53] <ablomen> oh..
[12:53] <TheSheep> ablomen: it's your fault! I hate you!
[12:53] <ablomen> lol :P
[12:54] <TheSheep> honestly, how can you press that by mistake?
[12:54] <TheSheep>  those keys are pretty far apart
[12:54] <Sysi-> i've never hitten it by accident, but missed it countless times
[12:54] <TheSheep> hear hear
[12:55] <ablomen> well, the home and end buttons are right above it on my laptop
[12:55] <ablomen> so technicly its dell's fault!
[12:55] <kangarooo> yes now all is good
[12:55] <TheSheep> kangarooo: great!
[12:55] <kangarooo> after log out the login screen showed better resolution
[12:57] <kangarooo> thx a lot :) this problems solution would be making better use if posted to launchpad. maybe then ill post this problem or that wiki page should have this solution included?
[12:57] <kangarooo> ur solution was different then in that page
[12:57] <ablomen> TheSheep, you see! >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000PGG0BM/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics
[12:59] <TheSheep> ablomen: I still can't imagine what you need alt+ctrl+home and alt+ctrl+end for
[12:59] <kangarooo> ablomen: will that keyboard also go in my old Yakumo laptop? are all laptop keybords the same?
[12:59] <ablomen> TheSheep, move a window to the next-prev desktop
[12:59] <ablomen> is default afaik
[12:59] <ablomen> kangarooo, don't think so
[13:00] <TheSheep> they all are different, pretty much
[13:06] <kangarooo> TheSheep: maybe ur solution should also be uploadet to that page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20resolution%20changes%20in%20xorg.conf%20--%20resolution%20lower%20than%20expected  ?
[13:08] <TheSheep> kangarooo: that's where I got it from
[13:09] <TheSheep> kangarooo: I'm not that smart myself ;)
[13:09] <kangarooo> no  ur solution was different then in that page
[13:11] <TheSheep> kangarooo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution#Problem:%20%20Autodetection%20results%20in%20reduced%20resolutions%20available
[13:11] <TheSheep> kangarooo: I used this
[13:12] <kangarooo> well this one looks more like ur solution but still some names are different and som more lines ur solution has
[13:13] <TheSheep> it doesn't matter
[13:17] <kangarooo> so witch line is the most important?
[13:17] <kangarooo> i just found someone also has this problem and im writing ur solution
[13:44] <kangarooo> wth in this new installation in firefox ctrl + shift + t opends bookmarks not reopens last closed tab
[14:35] <subspider> i can't change my wallpapaer can you guys help me
[14:37] <Sysi-> where is problem?
[14:37] <Sysi-> can you get to desktop settings?
[14:39] <subspider> yes i can
[14:39] <subspider> but where do i apply
[14:40] <subspider> if i clck right click on the desktop is there a option telling to chage wallpapaer but nothing happends
[14:40] <Sysi-> what if you go to menu -> desktop settings
[14:43] <subspider> yes i tryed that and the manu to choose my image apear but nothing happens
[14:48] <subspider> Sysi, it's done
[14:48] <Sysi-> you managed to do it?
[14:49] <subspider> Sysi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838184 if you try xfdesktop --reload and signout and sig in it's done
[14:49] <subspider> now i have a beutifull women in in my wallpaper
[14:49] <subspider> heheheh
[16:21] <kangarooo1> hello. something wrong. i installed for 4 friends xubuntu in last 2 days but 1 has now login problem. today he was in xubuntu but now cant log in. he enters password and then it logs in shows destop picture and logs out
[16:26] <kangarooo1> ah no. we restarted computer and autologin is now working and log out and log in also works now. but something was wrong with that loging in
[19:01] <robinking623> hello everyone
[19:04] <robinking623> i have an old laptop, and i try to install xubuntu910 on it. with the "acpi=off noapic" i have already installed the system, but after reboot i can not start it. the whole screen is black, but i can start my deskop with "acpi=off noapic single" in recoverymode. what should i do nowß
[19:06] <robinking623> btw, the laptop has celeron 2GHz with 512mb and intel 815 chipset
[19:22] <robinking623> any ideas?
[19:24] <Sysi-> you could ask on #ubuntu also
[19:25] <charlie-tca> ideas
[19:26] <charlie-tca> Does it work to add those to the menu line for normal startup?
[19:28] <robinking623> Sysi-: i have already done. no ideas
[19:29] <robinking623> charlie-tca: no. just by recovery mode startx works
[19:29] <charlie-tca> No errors noted when you remove quiet splash from grub line?
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Can you switch to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[19:30] <robinking623> charlie-tca: oh, i dont know. because i never tried that
[19:30] <charlie-tca> or are the tty's blank too
[19:30] <robinking623> charlie-tca: ttys are all blank
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Try removing quiet splash and adding acpi=off noapic in place of them
[19:31] <robinking623> charlie-tca: ok
[19:31] <charlie-tca> If that fails, try just removing quiet splash and see if there are any messages
[19:32] <robinking623> charlie-tca: it works!
[19:32] <charlie-tca> What version is this?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> 9.10?
[19:33] <robinking623> charlie-tca: but another problem is: my pcmcia-to-usb2.0 card does not work
[19:33] <robinking623> charlie-tca: xubuntu910
[19:33] <charlie-tca> One at a time.
[19:34] <charlie-tca> To make the change permanent, edit /etc/default/grub .
[19:35] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Hello, is it possible to install xubuntu via network?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:35] <charlie-tca> You can use netboot from :
[19:35] <[BG]ZloboMiR> I checked the site, however didn't see info
[19:35] <[BG]ZloboMiR> 10x
[19:35] <charlie-tca> give me a minute to find it
[19:37] <charlie-tca> here it is: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/
[19:37] <[BG]ZloboMiR> 10x again
[19:38] <charlie-tca> and here for 64bit: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[19:38] <[BG]ZloboMiR> No, 32 is my stuff... so I need to burn mini.iso?
[19:39] <robinking623> charlie-tca: what about the pcmcia-to-usb card?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> [BG]ZloboMiR: like this - http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/NetBoot
[19:40] <charlie-tca> robinking623: Need someone else to help with that one. I don't know much about pcmcia
[19:40] <robinking623> charlie-tca: ok. but thx a lot
[19:40] <charlie-tca> np, glad I could help a little
[19:42] <[BG]ZloboMiR> robinking623, is it a short story? Try me, altho I don't know much too
[19:45] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: i have some problems with my pcmcia card
[19:49] <[BG]ZloboMiR> robinking623, ok, listening
[19:49] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Card for what, network?
[19:49] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: and i can find it with lspci, but it doesnot work
[19:49] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: for usb2.0
[19:50] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Do you know the brand and model?
[19:51] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: yes. O2 Micro. Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 Cardbus/SmartCardBus controller
[19:52] <[BG]ZloboMiR> second...
[19:52] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: i am googling too
[19:54] <[BG]ZloboMiR> :)
[19:55] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: maybe it is just the pcmcia controller, not the card
[19:55] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: that means the Kernel does not recognize it
[19:57] <[BG]ZloboMiR> robinking623, http://joro.geodar.com/diary/2005/12/17/248/ << it is on Bulgarian, but a laptop owner states that this card is supported under Linux
[19:57] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Ето и информацията под Линукс:
[19:57] <[BG]ZloboMiR> The fourth row below this
[19:58] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: but the card works under ubuntu804
[19:59] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Well, install it, then install over the xfce
[19:59] <[BG]ZloboMiR> A bit ugly workaround, I agree
[20:01] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: you mean kernel?
[20:01] <robinking623> [BG]ZloboMiR: no~~~~~~~
[20:07] <[BG]ZloboMiR> I mean to install the working distro, then change the graphical manager
[20:46] <russell__> Afternoon folks.  Anyone around to help answer a question?
[20:49] <Sysi-> yes, what's up
[20:49] <russell__> sorry, I'll be abck in a second... just ran out of space on my / partition (oops)
[20:51] <russell__> 10gb in syslog and messages... go figure?
[20:52] <russell__> I'm having problems getting linksys network card working.  What sort of info do you need to help.
[20:52] <russell__> ?
[20:57] <russell__> lsusb shows the card but no wlan0 in iwconfig.  I haven't had this problem since 8.04 (ubuntu).  Does nm-applet work in xubuntu?
[20:57] <charlie-tca> yes, it should
[20:59] <russell__> ok, I might gve that a try... solved so many problems in Ubuntu.  Is there other options?  Baked in wireless support in xubuntu?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> You can use wicd, instead of Network-Manager
[21:00] <russell__> pros/cons?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> personal choice, mostly
[21:02] <russell__> I'll check them both out.  I'm not the primary user of the computer, so ease of use is optimal (Id just write to the conf files if I knew I wouldn't have to fix it next time somthing went wrong)
[21:07] <Chaiwalla> QUESTION - how do I stop Xubuntu from loading XChat & Orage up whenever the computer boots up?
[21:08] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Well, there should be something like Startup Applications
[21:08] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Just wait a bit, installing now
[21:08] <charlie-tca> uncheck them in Applications -> Settings -> Session and Startup
[21:08] <[BG]ZloboMiR> Yep, this one
[21:08] <charlie-tca> Then uncheck "save session" when shutting down if they are running
[21:09] <charlie-tca> Oh, That is the Application
[21:09] <charlie-tca> autostart tab, too
[21:44] <likemindead> Xubuntu 10.04 Alpha 3 Live CD won't boot on my laptop. :-\
[21:45] <robinking623> likemindead: F6, acpi=off and noapic
[21:45] <likemindead> I'll give that a try. Thanks!
[21:46] <robinking623> charlie-tca: pcmcia may need acpi or apic?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I don't think so, I think they are for power saving
[21:47] <charlie-tca> suspend may not work
[21:48] <charlie-tca> shutdown may give a line about shut down, and then hang. I don't think they affect pcmcia, though
[21:48] <robinking623> charlie-tca: but apic = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
[21:48] <charlie-tca> So what is it doing?
[21:48] <likemindead> I've been using Xubuntu 9.10 since Alpha 6 with no serious issues on this laptop. :D
[21:49] <likemindead> Really looking forward, as always, to upgrading.
[21:49] <charlie-tca> likemindead: what video?
[21:49] <charlie-tca> Oh! live cd. Give it about 20 minutes to bring up the desktop
[21:50] <charlie-tca> seriously, 20 minutes
[21:51] <likemindead> Yikes... maybe I'll wait 'til Beta...
[21:53] <charlie-tca> The live cd is a little slower than normal. but after installation, it is faster than 9.10
[21:53] <charlie-tca> It takes me 13-15 minutes to get the live desktop, but the boot time after installation is about 20 seconds
[21:54] <likemindead> Score.
[21:55] <dimuls> hi2all, i just installed xubuntu 9.10. xfwm4 doesn't run. i need to press alt+f2 and enter xfwm4 manually. how 2 make it load automatically?
[21:58] <Chaiwalla> question - How can I access shared files on my Windows XP PC, from my Xubuntu laptop?  they both use the same router
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Chaiwalla: use gigolo in Applications -> System
[21:59] <downstairs> greetings, I was here asking about wifi prblems earlier... anyone able to help now?
[21:59] <Chaiwalla> ok I'll check it
[21:59] <Chaiwalla> thanks
[22:00] <charlie-tca> or maybe it is called shared folders
[22:00] <Chaiwalla> yeah, i see shared folders
[22:03] <mr_pouit> (or maybe "remote filesystems"
[22:03] <mr_pouit> )
[22:06] <Chaiwalla> hmmm
[22:06] <Chaiwalla> I don't see the folder in shared folders
[22:06] <Chaiwalla> oh, I'll try remote filysystems
[22:07] <Chaiwalla> mr_pouit - remote filesystems found the windows PC, but says "no shares found"
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I think you have to set up the windows folders as shared, don't you?
[22:12] <Chaiwalla> they are
[22:12] <Chaiwalla> I just did it again too :-(
[23:30] <subspider> hey Sysi do you know what is tha network manager that comes with xubuntu
[23:30] <subspider> mine it's not on the system tray
[23:30] <subspider> it dasapiear
[23:32] <subspider> hey TheSheep  can you help me
[23:36] <nwadawg> just installed 10.4 a3 on old work horse laptop, man it boots fast