[00:10] over an hour I've been hunting other docs and FAQ without finding instructions howto: 1-download installation linux and initrd.gz; 2-load them using Grub; 3-install via http only Kubuntu (no minimal install followed by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop). Is this possible as it is for Gnombuntu? If so, where's the doc? [00:10] how do I minimize my xchat to system tray on startup please? [00:11] * Thunder_star will return shortly [00:11] * Thunder_star has returned [00:22] hi [00:23] allo === root is now known as Guest22654 [01:07] Hey [01:07] Kubuntu froze on me, awesome. [01:08] How do I ctrl-alt-delete things in Kubuntu? [01:08] Because this is running super slow [01:08] And stuff freezes on me all the time === sea__ is now known as sea4ever [01:16] Are there any easy to use keyloggers for Kubuntu? [01:17] Say.... to log a friends facebook / whatever password? :) [01:18] BrotherDave: Such software is an abomination! People would refuse to taint the purity of linux by creating malicious software for it. [01:19] Long story short, Step Brother get's on my pc when I'm not looking (forgot to lock it sometimes) and if my facebook is up. He will change my status to something retarded. I'm just looking for a way to get payback is all :0 [01:21] lol. Well that's a step-brother for you. Go hit him with something big, moist, sticky, and squishy in the face if you want payback. [01:21] That will give you a lot more satisfaction than posting something on facebook anyway. [01:22] Cream pie works well. [01:23] I installed the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver version 185 [01:23] And now my monitor isn't working [I'm on a laptop] [01:24] I am sorry to intrude. Is anyone ready for a stupid LINUX question? [01:24] Ezros, from jockey ? [01:24] Can someone please help me lol [01:24] Maybe? [01:24] I have no idea. [01:24] I went to "Hardware Drivers" and that was the recommended driver in the program. [01:24] I am trying to copy a 52GB file from my local drive to an external drive connected via USB. [01:25] Ezros: I'm not sure, but I think you should try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' [01:25] I have tried cp and it just goes away. [01:25] I am now trying rsyn with --progress and I am watching the transfer rate slowly tank. Help! [01:25] sea5ever: What will that do? [01:25] rsyn=rsync [01:26] That's sea4ever, lol. It should make the monitor work again the way it used to [01:26] lol [01:26] It started at 30 Mb/s and it is now 6.5 Mb/s [01:27] That crashed Jockey. [01:27] Ezros, in the termianal , lspci | grep VGA [01:27] BluesKaj-Laptop: I typed that in and it shows my video card lol [01:28] yes, what is your video card, Ezros ? [01:28] GeForce 9800M GTS === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:31] Ezros, on karmic ? [01:31] I believe so. [01:31] I'm using Kubuntu newest version. [01:32] Ezros, lsb_release -a [01:33] Yup yup, karmic. [01:34] Ezros, I ask because i need to know your installation in order to help [01:35] It's all good. [01:35] Was wondering, I'd like to put Kubuntu on a relatively old pc (2002) with 512mb RAM, 1GHz, and 40gb hard drive...would the latest build of Kubuntu run at reasonable speed or do you recommend I run another distro [01:36] it's all good , your monitor isn't working ... uhmm okaaaay.. i won't waste your time [01:37] ? [01:37] What? lol [01:40] Whopper: I just read that it should work just fine [01:40] Whopper, with 512 RAM xfce desktop would run ok ..not quite enough for kde or gnome [01:41] If anything you can always just change the default WM to something lighter. [01:42] kde without plasma might be ok [01:42] BluesKaj-Laptop: Can you help me with this? I don't know what I'm doing. [01:43] BluesKaj-Laptop, Yes that's what I figured, since I know gnome wouldn't work period no matter the settings (unless I set it at the bare minimum) so my next best bet was KDE...I'll try KDE at low settings, and then XFCE and check out this LXDE desktop in the works...thanks for your help [01:44] Whopper, I think you'll like kde well enough to run at non plasma, if that's possible now [01:45] one never knows for sure 512 may be ok [01:46] BluesKaj-Laptop, I know 512 is sufficient for many current Linux builds, however it's the fact my computer is from 2002 (was once a business server back in the day), that some of the additional requirements may not be met due to outdated hardware that hasn't been upgraded since that date [01:47] I'll give it a go, though :) [01:47] I am trying to copy a 52GB file from my local drive to an external drive connected via USB. [01:47] I tried cp and it just goes away. [01:48] I am trying rsync and watching my transfer rate tank. [01:48] Any suggestions? [01:48] whopper , I ram 6.10 on a 128ram 333mhz machine for a yrs before I bought another desktop ..it ran quite well with kde at the time bit slowbut no worse then windows 95 :) [01:48] err ran [01:50] Ezros, how did you install nvidia-glx-185 [01:50] Yes that's what I figure :) I have Windows 2000 Professional on it currently, and want a free alternative that I can preserve the longevity of my machine with for years to come :) [01:50] Since with all due respect, Windows 2000 is crap [01:51] Whopper, well it's the best windows OAS IMO :) [01:51] OS [01:51] Lol true :) [01:52] Whopper, after installation, cmon back here and report to us how it's running ..I'm very curious [01:53] BluesKaj-Laptop, It'll have to wait till Saturday, I don't have the time to properly set up a Linux distro due to my work schedule...however I will set it up Friday night, and report to you guys Saturday [01:53] However I am burning the ISO image to a CD as we speak, so the CD is ready to install :) [01:54] I still have an old similar pc in my basement I might donate to the seniors center . [01:54] BluesKaj-Laptop: I installed by going to the "Hardware Drivers" thing that came with Kubuntu. [01:54] they have acouple of pcs running linux already , mainly for surfing etc [01:55] BluesKaj-Laptop, I did something similar with a 256MB 10GB HD laptop with 500mhz, I put SliTaz on the hard drive, firefox with flash and what not, and a few music programs, open office....it runs great, and the kids are appreciative of it :) [01:56] brb [01:56] Whopper, cool :) [02:03] Okay, I removed that driver [02:03] Hopefully I can use my monitor again lol [02:04] :) [02:04] brb [02:04] Ezros, back when I used Dapper Drake in 2006-2007, I had a similar problem [02:08] Yay, after the most recent openoffice updates it seems the hang time when using the file open/save dialog is back :( [02:09] Okay, my monitor is "working" again. [02:10] I downloaded a .run file from NVIDIA, can someone tell me how to use it please? [02:10] this sucks [02:11] Ezros, which driver is it? [02:11] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_190.53.html [02:11] Ezros from the commandline type: chmod a+x .run && ./.run [02:12] Kage, we need to know if it's the right driver [02:12] It should be. [02:12] It's for 9 series on Linux 64. [02:12] BluesKaj-Laptop: he asked how to use it, not if it was the right driver :P [02:12] 9M series, not 9. [02:14] Ezros, that driver should work , but you can also use the terminal to install the driver from the repos , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current [02:15] "Couldn't find package" [02:17] ok, you don't have all your repos enabled, Ezros ..do it the way Kage described [02:19] Well, I can't figure out how to do the way Kage explained [02:20] Kage, we have to be careful about the nvidia propreitary drivers , sometimes they break the system worse than it is already [02:21] BluesKaj-Laptop: he didn't ask if it was safe... he asked how to use it. [02:22] So much stuff with linux :-/ [02:24] look Kage , we have to be mindful of giving correct advice ok...understand ? ..whether he asked if it was safe ornot isn't thepoint here. [02:25] I still don't know what I'm doing, for the record. [02:27] BluesKaj-Laptop: IMO when someone asks a question on how to do something, we should give them a direct answer [02:30] ok Kage , he's all yours ..i don't need this [02:33] Hi [02:34] * genii hands BiggBang a coffee [02:34] ty [02:35] Hi genii [02:35] BiggBang: Hi. You have some question regarding your Kubuntu? [02:36] I am just reading [02:36] I am a newcomer [02:36] Trying to learn [02:37] !welcome [02:37] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [02:37] tyvm :) [02:37] How can I maname my nick ? [02:38] manage [02:39] BiggBang: If you plan to be here a lot, register the name you'd like to permanently use. You can change the name you are currently using with: /nick newname-here [02:39] !register [02:39] Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode [02:39] ty ubotto :) [02:39] I like how BluesKaj made it seem like I'm some sort of pain in the ass who doesn't listen. [02:39] ty ... genii [02:40] Ezros: that's not nicely said [02:40] That's the point. [02:40]

ok Kage , he's all yours ..i don't need this [02:41] That implies negative things about me. [02:41] Ezros: that's also not needed here (: [02:41] Which I don't take to kindly to. [02:41] True. [02:41] But I mean.. I'm just trying to get some help. [02:41] I've NEVER used linux [02:41] And nothing is working out for me. [02:41] Ezros: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:45] I still can't get this driver to work. I'm in the terminal and I can't get the file to run. :-/ [02:47] Ezros: You should only try to run some binary driver install like that when the driver supplied with your Kubuntu is not working properly [02:52] Is the support available 24/7 ? [02:55] genii: Hey ? [02:55] Is the support available 24/7 ? [02:56] BiggBang, yes [02:56] Hi ant ty Whopper [02:56] You're welcome [02:56] BiggBang: depends if someone is awake [02:57] I agree lol [02:57] Kage: Are you ? [02:58] <_< no... [02:58] Funny smiley :) [02:58] BiggBang: this is a pre-recorded message... please leave your message at the sound of the beep.... [02:59] *BEEP* [02:59] :D === BiggBang is now known as BiggFREE [03:02] On Freenode, my real nick is BiggFREE [03:11] I have a Dell laptop with the following error after an upgrade. Here is the error message: init: networking main process (477) terminated with status 1 [03:11] How can I resolve this issue? [03:12] I cannot get into TTY or the login screen (GUI). [03:20] theresa: you might try in #ubuntu, it's more active and your problem isn't kubuntu specific. [03:21] http://www.kontraband.com/pics/21699/Apple-iProducts/ [03:24] LeeJunFan: OK. Thanks. [03:30] <[THC]AcidRain> ok. so is there any leet LMMSers in here? [03:33] Is it always quiet like this ? [03:34] is during european nights [03:34] <[THC]AcidRain> lulz [03:34] Ièm from Canada [03:34] <[THC]AcidRain> i been idling here for about 2 days [03:35] I am [03:35] <[THC]AcidRain> really it is always this quiet [03:35] It was the weekend [03:35] [THC]AcidRain: not really, basing to my 5 years experience (; [03:35] Hey, whats a good messenger program, a internet browser, and an IRC client? [03:36] Arsin: Kopete, Konqueror, Quassel [03:36] Arsin: As per opinion, or overal statistics [03:36] !best | Arsin [03:36] Arsin: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [03:37] How would I get these programs? Also is it normal for windows to be 'stuck' where they are and are unable to move around? [03:37] Arsin: all those three mentioned are in Kubuntu by default (: [03:38] and no, windows being stuck is not normal [03:38] I would need to quit this program to use a program that is 'behind' it windows wise [03:38] Arsin: Typically I'd just use the programs installed by default...though I prefer to use Opera as a web browser and Xchat/Irssi as an IRC client, I like Kopete for the instant messaging capabilities [03:39] brb [03:51] brb === nosrepa is now known as aperson [04:35] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know a good popular voip software for ubuntu. kinda like ventrilo for windows? [04:35] !voip [04:35] VoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX. [04:36] !mumble [04:36] !info mumble [04:36] mumble (source: mumble): Low latency VoIP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.8-3 (karmic), package size 1119 kB, installed size 2308 kB [04:37] <[THC]AcidRain> wow. that was alot of great info [04:37] <[THC]AcidRain> thx [04:37] <[THC]AcidRain> but what clients can communicate with what server? [04:38] [THC]AcidRain: mumble uses mumble-server, for example [04:40] Does anyone know why if I go afk my computer freezes? [04:41] After like 10 minutes or so my computer screen just goes black [04:41] And the only way to get it to work is to restart. [04:41] Ezros: sounds like screensaver/powersaving [04:41] But shouldn't I be able to move the mouse/press the buttons to get it back? [04:43] is there kubuntu studio out there [04:45] Hey Tm_T, can you help me setup my video drivers please? [04:45] I have the driver downloaded already as a .run file. [04:46] Ezros: whad driver that is? [04:46] NVIDIA 190 driver [04:47] For Linux 64bit [04:47] !nvidia | Ezros you should use what distro provides unless really have good reason not to [04:47] Ezros you should use what distro provides unless really have good reason not to: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [04:48] Well, last time I installed the driver via the "Hardware Drivers" program. [04:48] But it didn't recognize my monitor I have plugged in. [04:51] Installing the driver should fix my resolution so that my words aren't blurry, right? [04:51] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i run a script as root in ubuntu? :/ [04:59] Ya, Kubuntu is not working well at all, for me. [04:59] Nothing seems to work. :-/ === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [05:18] is there kubuntu studio out there [05:25] Yup... [05:38] i'm having an issue getting audio to get forwarded through HDMI on my zotac ionx-f-e board... [05:38] i'v got all the channels unmuted...maxed... [05:38] set the priority in the multimedia module of system settings to the HDMI device... [05:38] still no go =\ === Whopper_ is now known as Whopper === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [06:28] woohoo! Kubuntu is the BOMB! Ive been hopping around distros all week and I think I found "The ONE" [06:46] good morning [06:48] hi [06:51] any knowledge in kernel compilation? [06:51] a bit, i'v never done it on kubuntu though [06:53] okay :).. so this.. with uname -r i get: 2.6.31-20-generic.. [06:53] have also installed latest headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-20-generic [06:54] if i do a make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-20-generic in top of menuconfig is kernel version: v2.6.31.9.. [06:55] i also copied /boot/config-2.6.31-20-generic to .config into the headers.. so i have the exact same config as the running kernel.. [06:55] any idea why in menuconfig is 2.6.31.9? [06:56] a dpkg -l | grep linux-headers --> ii linux-headers-2.6.31-20-generic 2.6.31-20.57 Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.31 on x [06:57] that is a bit odd, i don't have a clue on that one =\ === aaron_ is now known as robertsaron [07:21] anyone mind assisting me with my audio problem? zotac ionitx-f-e board, i'v unmuted all the channels in kmix (including some hidden ones such as iec958), set my device output preference to HDMI and it still will not send audio through HDMI === caldera is now known as JulienBu [08:58] in transmission, how come i dont have that activity chart with all those blue blocks? http://www.transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/1.5x/gfx/inspector.jpg [08:59] i was running ubuntu someversion.x.1 then upgrade to someversion x.2 and it gone === matthew is now known as Guest47126 [10:22] I just upgraded from Intrepid to Karamik and now I can't hear mp3s i like also how do I config my sounds? [10:23] hi [10:23] Has anyone gotten Stigi (part of Nepomuk) to work properly. It indexes the files, but it doesn't seem like it's of any use. [10:26] Anyone? [10:27] Please ping me, if you have. [10:32] is there a way to decrease the memory footprint of kubuntu? [10:33] im running kde4.4, and its using 2gb of ram atm [10:33] how you measure it? [10:34] with the free command [10:34] Mem: 2058092 1870156 187936 0 154744 817396 [10:34] seems its almost out of ram [10:35] phrearch: do "free -m | grep -" [10:36] -/+ buffers/cache: 878 1131 [10:36] thats the expected result? [10:36] so that's 878 MiB for actual binaries&stuff, rest is used for buffers and cache, as it should [10:38] phrearch: Linux kernel is smart, it uses free ram for cache, thus speeding up your system [10:38] aha ok, good to know that. thanks [10:39] the system feels a bit unresponsive though [10:39] I can't hear my MP3's on Karamik - I can hear the bootup sound but no music on the system [10:39] maybe time to buy a new system [10:40] phrearch: press ctrl+esc, it should show you system monitor [10:40] it does [10:40] moving windows pushes xorg to almost 60% cpu [10:41] phrearch: you might like to check that you have correct drivers for graphics card installed [10:41] in compositing mode this drops dramatically [10:42] 15% max [10:42] instead of 60+ [10:42] ok that was it [10:42] phrearch: heh, using GPU properly has its benefits, yes [10:42] everything is more responsive agagin [10:43] i guess my cpu is crap [10:43] nah, CPU is just not designed to do what GPU does [10:43] i guess. thanks :) [10:43] they are two different piece of hardware for a very good reason (: [10:44] my t6600 laptop doesnt have issues without compositing [10:44] i guess its a different breed of cpus [10:44] and gpu+drivers [10:45] yea [10:45] what are the newest nvidia drivers? [10:45] !nvidia [10:45] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [10:45] ...no idea if that page is uptodate [10:45] i got nvidia-185 from the repos [10:46] nvidia-glx-185 [10:47] sounds reasonable enough [11:04] Hi [11:04] how can i acces my encrypted kubuntu lucid partition from kubuntu karmic? [11:07] ciao [11:10] qual?É il sito di [11:10] su internet [11:15] qual'è il sito di konversatio per scaricare i film === Dab is now known as Guest45992 === fstl is now known as explore [11:32] change [11:40] hi guys [11:40] hi [11:42] HI [11:42] Please respond [11:42] is I am connected [11:42] if ... [11:46] What is the name of the virtuoso backend soprano thing package? [11:46] Nepomuk is complaining after the upgrade to 4.4 [11:51] hi huys [11:51] guys [11:51] Oracle has acquired SUN completely now [11:51] This would impact open source badly [11:52] some packages like VirtualBOX would be made cpommercial soon [11:55] Is anyone there [11:57] I just upgraded from Intrepid to Karamic I can hear my mp3's in amarok but not in any other player [11:59] you need to upgrade [11:59] all the files [12:00] preferably use vlc player as it has all the available plugins [12:04] I need help [12:04] if there are experts innthis room [12:06] satyendra: just say whats wrong if someone can help they'll respond [12:07] hey guys hang onto this it fixed my sound http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160690 [12:12] Hello. User question. How can I disable/switch on/of the popup-handle on desktop icons and appletts (containing resize, rotate,wrecnch and x(close) controls? [12:12] Well I have many Debs detected byb apt-manager of another systen [12:13] I have used var/apt/cacvhe/arvchives [12:13] folder in one usb-hdd [12:13] and want to install many packages in another system === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [13:03] Hello. User question. How can I disable/switch on/of the popup-handle on desktop icons and applets (containing resize, rotate,wrench and x(close) controls? [13:04] coaboa: right click on the desktop and hit "Lock widgets" [13:04] hi [13:04] thx [13:15] hi. kpackagekit stops downloads at 5%. this is because its looking for a proxy that doesn't exist. does anyone know how i can unset the proxy? [13:24] !Lista [13:24] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [13:25] !Lista [13:25] !LISTA [13:25] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [13:27] <> [13:27] <> [13:29] where I can find the list of the films? [13:30] giorgio: this is not a file sharing channel (or network) [13:30] what? [13:30] giorgio: you won't find any list of the films here [13:30] anyone knows how to put java webstart working with kubuntu ? [13:31] brunosimoes: have you installed jre and friends? [13:31] i have everything [13:32] brunosimoes: then it should just work [13:32] it starts downloading [13:32] but then nothing happends [13:34] i dont have everything... i m missing how to configure it === betinho is now known as tumaix [13:56] Hi === giorgio_ is now known as giorgio__ === giorgio__ is now known as juve__ [14:01] Madascar 2 [14:02] Just reading [14:02] XDCC OCEAN aDsL 25 [14:03] XDCC|OCEAN|CaRtooN02 [14:05] Why nobody is talking ? [14:06] BiggFREE: No support questions at the moment. If you just want to chat you can join #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic [14:06] oh well. [14:18] how can i use webcam + audio on kopete? the webcam seems to work in the Video part of 'Configure Kopete' === vit is now known as vit_ [14:18] hola === vit_ is now known as vit [14:26] I need to restore a boot record, but grub errors. [14:26] grub> root (hd0,4) [14:26] Error 21: Selected disk does not exist [14:26] and I have mounted /dev/sda5! I can even see the grub files (currently in Live desktop) === nosrepa is now known as aperson [14:36] hey [14:37] how do i clean up a memory?ive tried "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" but then i have to use "su"... [14:37] usin su is ok,but i cant see any difference while usin free -m under my regular account [14:38] i can see the impact of echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches under the root,but not under my user account [14:40] n8w: Set instead: vm.drop_caches = 1 in the file /etc/sysctl.conf [14:41] genii: what does it do? [14:42] n8w: When you use su it sets for superuser, when you set it globally in /etc/sysctl.conf it makes it for all users [14:43] genii: ok supa..im gonna try... [14:45] genii: well,ive got prob...all lines in the file r commented out n there is nothin like vm.drop_caches = 1 [14:45] genii: shall i add that line inthere? [14:45] n8w: Yes. [14:45] genii: ok,thx for your help;) [14:45] n8w: After next reboot the change will be global [14:47] does anyone have an idea for my 'Enter' problem? if i change the shortcut to another key (for instance '+' or something) then i can send messages with the key; but not when the key is Return or Enter :( [14:48] genii: im sry, but this the last question:))...im gonna add it like this: echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ....is that correct? [14:48] n8w: No [14:49] n8w: More like: echo "vm.drop_caches = 1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf [14:50] genii: uff...that looks toaly different:) [14:53] n8w: Stuff set in the file /etc/sysctl.conf is just changing the default value during boot time so it doesn't need to be done by messing with stuff in the /proc/sys/ area. To edit that file you need admin hence the "sudo tee -a" part [14:53] n8w: Running as root or under su is discouraged in ubuntu, almost all admin work is done with sudo [14:54] genii: yep...thx...im gonna add that line as u say [14:57] genii: ok i did echo "vm.drop_caches = 1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf from the konsole n it has been written to the file.... [14:57] genii: im gonna reboot now....thx a lot for your help [15:04] will kubuntu run off of a U3 virtual cd partition? [15:08] Zxcvb: Yes. Although I usually use u3-tool to remove it altogether [15:12] genii: nice, so you can use u3-tool to run a kubuntu dvd iso image [15:12] genii: do all live cd/dvds work with that? [15:15] Zxcvb: I have a Sandisk Cruzer which I tested the virtual cd boot using an Xubuntu 9.10 image, works fine. Theoretically any livecd will work. The Cruzer is setup in a persistent install mode where it boots the virtual cd then uses the mass storage part of the stick for keeping settings, etc. I disabled swap on purpose because of read/write life cycle of the sticks is not that great [15:16] Zxcvb: I used u3-tool to set it up for the linux image, yes [15:24] Hi there! I have a problem with my alsa setup: I have one device called Front/WaveIn - so when i use Skype and would like to hear with the front speakers, the calling party hears itself, because its returned to him via WaveIn (which is Front again)... can someone help me with that? [15:25] any fixes for the intel chipset bug that would cause a system to lock up. [15:25] 2 Dells, same issue on both [15:36] hi guys... [15:36] short question: when I click on a python file in dolphin it will always try to start that file.. but thats not what I want, instead I wold rather like to have that file openened with kate... [15:37] kate is already the "top" program in the actions list rightclick menu... but it still does not work... any tips on this? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [16:08] isnt there anybody that knows a litte bit about sound arcitecture in kde?? I'm getting crazy about how Alsa, Pulse, Phonon and Xine stick together. Can someone tell me that? [16:19] seicherlbob: alsa is the underlying sound architecture [16:20] then there is Phonon on top of it in KDE, using various backends for sound output, like for example the xine backend [16:20] and what has pulse to do with it? because my pulse device is not working [16:20] seicherlbob: well, if you only use KDE you don't need pulseaudio [16:21] or to be more prcise: KDE doesn't use it [16:21] ok, thats an info i can use [16:21] precise [16:21] so i can purge it? [16:22] seicherlbob: well, you can remove it, but purge is not advises, since it might want to remove more than necessary [16:22] and once it was installed, you will always have libpulse0 installed, it's almost impossible to get rid of it, but it shouldn't disturb [16:22] ok. do you know how i can configure the alsa devices? because my waveIn collides with my frontout [16:23] seicherlbob: you need to remove all pluseaudio-* packages, then remove the $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc, then restart KDE [16:23] Phonon will configure the rest [16:24] remove as in apt-get remove ? [16:24] seicherlbob: unless you have an exotic soundcard it should just work [16:24] Creative .... Xfi Titanium [16:24] seicherlbob: yes === h is now known as Guest38027 [16:25] seicherlbob: I don't know if that is exotic, try what I suggested first :) [16:25] The problem is that some channels are doubled in the MultimediaSettings and sometimes the front out is weird. And i'd like to have some outputs on multiple channels (like music to front AND rear) [16:27] ok, i'll remove pulse packages and the phonondevices, then restart. right? [16:28] only restart KDE, not restart the computer [16:28] ok [16:28] how can i ask apt about installed packages? like apt-cache search, but only on installed ones? [16:30]