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bjsnider | can someone delete an orig tarball from the ppa system for me? | 02:09 |
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persia | bjsnider: That's unlikely to happen, because someone might have downloaded it or otherwise be relying on it. | 02:20 |
bjsnider | persia, i'm about to upload a new tarball with the same name, but the old one is in the way | 02:20 |
persia | bjsnider: I understand. The PPA system is not designed to support that use case. | 02:21 |
persia | This was an intentional decision. | 02:21 |
bjsnider | it will be deleted automatically in 7 days anywa | 02:22 |
bjsnider | the programmer released a new version without bumping the version number | 02:24 |
bjsnider | he's certainly acting the part of a numbskull | 02:24 |
persia | bjsnider: The typical response is to publish a tarball like foo_1.2.3+oughtbe124.tar.gz or similar. | 02:30 |
bjsnider | are you kidding me? | 02:31 |
persia | bjsnider: No. There are a fairly large number of people who believe that a given path should represent a given static object with a known checksum. | 02:33 |
persia | So http://ppa.launchpad.net/.../foo_1.2.3.tar.gz would *always* be the same. | 02:33 |
persia | And if it changed, it would have a different name as well. | 02:33 |
persia | The package management systems used in Debian-derived distributions rely on this assumption. | 02:34 |
bjsnider | i was just thinking of writing this guy an angry, pithy email, but to rename the orig tarball... | 02:34 |
bjsnider | can you give me a real world example of a tarball being renamed because the number should have been bumped and wasn't? | 02:35 |
persia | I don't seem to have any installed on my system right now. | 02:40 |
persia | I remember there being some like that in the past, but I can't remember specifics. | 02:40 |
bjsnider | would 0.31.0+latest be considered newer than 0.31.0? | 02:44 |
persia | bjsnider: Yes, but use dpkg --compare-versions to verify (dpkg knows better than anyone on IRC) | 02:45 |
bjsnider | persia, the system swallowed that. thanks for the guidance | 03:01 |
persia | bjsnider: No problem. Thanks for understanding the policy that makes it so. | 03:02 |
bjsnider | oh, i don't question it, i just wonder why this guy didn't bump the version number | 03:05 |
persia | Some upstreams seem to not understand that having two releases with the same version may confuse users. I generally see it when the only changes are in comments or licensing or similar stuff that upstream doesn't expect will change behaviour. | 03:07 |
bjsnider | well i'll tell you | 03:13 |
bjsnider | this tarball was 200k smaller than the previous one, which accounts for 35% of its total size | 03:13 |
persia | oh my. | 03:14 |
bjsnider | there were obviously significant changes | 03:14 |
bjsnider | and in the changelog too | 03:14 |
persia | Do send upstream a note requesting a bump :) | 03:14 |
spiv | Why is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nmb/bzr/mkdir-recursive-253529/+merge/19488 still in "updating diff" after almost two weeks? | 03:14 |
bjsnider | he ony bumped the part after the last dash | 03:14 |
mwhudson | spiv: i guess something broke | 03:15 |
thumper | spiv: because lp:~nmb/bzr/mkdir-recursive-253529 doesn't exist yet | 03:33 |
spiv | thumper: then I guess that merge proposal page should say that, rather than "updating diff" :) | 03:41 |
thumper | spiv: file a bug :) | 03:41 |
poolie | spm, so, what's the deal, do you want me to update https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mbp/tuolumne-lp-configs/bzr-graphs/+merge/20357 ? | 06:10 |
spm | poolie: actually is all proposed and waiting: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~spm/tuolumne-lp-configs/fix_bzr-graphs/+merge/20423 which I suspect you can't see. I was going to chase tom on same; but am ~ 60% tempted to get a Q&D cross check from yourself and make it live | 06:12 |
poolie | no, i can't see it | 06:24 |
poolie | what you said previously makes sense | 06:24 |
poolie | i'm in no screaming hurry to have it today rather than tomorrow | 06:24 |
poolie | just don't want it to stall | 06:24 |
poolie | based on what you said before it seems safe to merge but i don't know what the normal practice is for tuolumne | 06:25 |
Zus | can evolution open more than one email address at one time? im trying to get the gpg key to work in terminal but i get msg failed: file open error, the next easier step i would think is open my mail in evolution but it has an email adress asigned to it already... | 06:37 |
Zus | firegpg add on said gmail support is broken to use the one on the site...the site said if i have linux it should be in my repositories, there was another way by saving the email in a txt file and using the terminal to read the encrytped mail....that doesnt work.... would evo lution work even though i already have an email address pinned to it? (can i add another email address to evolution?) | 06:49 |
Zus | nevermind i got :) | 07:13 |
arand | I'm getting a "not allowed here" for https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity that's not as it should be right? | 07:20 |
spiv | arand: yeah, sounds like a bug | 07:21 |
arand | Also getting that if I disable edge redirect... | 07:21 |
wgrant | There's a bug on that. you can see it if you log out. | 07:22 |
* wgrant digs. | 07:22 | |
spiv | Something to do with related_ppa_versions? | 07:22 |
wgrant | Bug #514824 | 07:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 514824 in soyuz "No permissions to view ubuntu/+source/hypre because of disabled ppa in page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514824 | 07:23 |
wgrant | So, yes. | 07:23 |
wgrant | I wonder if I can coerce somebody into RCing the one-line fix. | 07:25 |
spm | day and a half out from a full release? /me waggles hand. 50/50 chance. | 07:27 |
wgrant | Exactly. | 07:28 |
arand | ok, good to know it's being looked into. | 07:33 |
merlijn- | Hi, is this the right place to ask questions about Landscape? | 08:50 |
lifeless | no, but it will do while I find out the right place for you | 08:51 |
lifeless | what sort of stuff do you want to know? | 08:51 |
merlijn- | I'm building a testsetup with Enterprise Cloud functionality | 08:51 |
merlijn- | but I'm having trouble connecting Landscape to my Cloud | 08:51 |
lifeless | UEC you mean? | 08:51 |
merlijn- | yes | 08:52 |
lifeless | I believe you need to ensure your cloud has its endpoint exposed on port 443, using ssl | 08:52 |
lifeless | I've enquired about the right place to discuss it | 08:52 |
lifeless | there appears to be a #landscape | 08:52 |
merlijn- | so with the default setup, I should setup stunnel to pipe SSL on 443 to port 8773 | 08:53 |
merlijn- | #landscape appears pretty empty :) | 08:53 |
lifeless | yes, but the folk there are core devs on the project | 08:53 |
merlijn- | oh nice, only one of them had a cloak | 08:54 |
merlijn- | anyway, let me try setting up stunnel on port 443 | 08:54 |
merlijn- | one problem is that I have read that Landscape will only work with real ssl certs (aka not self signed) | 08:57 |
merlijn- | it seems a little off to buy one of those while just doing evaluation of the product | 08:57 |
Zus | anyone still around? on the pgp/ gpg key id thats the 4 digit / 8 digit ? (the key type/id)? also wich is public and wich is the one i should keep private | 09:11 |
Zus | can anyone tell me why i cannot sign the UCoC? when i run the terminal part i gfet a file error | 10:06 |
Zus | can anyone tell me why i cannot sign the UCoC? when i run the terminal part i gfet a file error | 10:21 |
persia | Zus: The number of people who joined or left in the time between your queries is much smaller than the entirety of the channel. | 10:22 |
persia | !pgp | 10:23 |
ubottu | gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts | 10:23 |
persia | Zus: try those links. If that doesn't work, try https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey | 10:23 |
persia | If that doesn't work, try asking in a support forum more closely aligned with the UCoC (like #ubuntu) | 10:24 |
Zus | oops.. | 10:24 |
Zus | i got all the wya to where i donwloaded the ucoc and have to run the terminal | 10:25 |
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jussi01 | Im loving the error ID's for LP... starting with "OOPS-" :D | 12:38 |
jussi01 | mind, it sucks that I cant file a bug :/ | 12:38 |
* jussi01 tries with edge disabled | 12:40 | |
jussi01 | ok, disabled edge and now it works :) | 12:44 |
wgrant | jussi01: That's not a solution; production adopts something very close to edge's code in about 36 hours. | 12:44 |
jussi01 | wgrant: right, is an error code useful to you? | 12:45 |
wgrant | jussi01: Not to me, but to most other people it will be. | 12:45 |
wgrant | So mentioning it here might be good. | 12:45 |
jussi01 | wgrant: sure: (Error ID: OOPS-1522EB454) | 12:45 |
ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522EB454 | 12:45 |
james_w | jussi01: you were filing a bug about the ubuntu website? | 12:54 |
jussi01 | james_w: correct | 12:55 |
james_w | you know there is an ubuntu-website project? | 12:55 |
jussi01 | james_w: I was filing against ubuntu-website, is that incorrect? | 12:55 |
jussi01 | james_w: I did get the bug filed eventually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/530653 | 12:56 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 530653 in ubuntu "Ubuntu website contains page "Ubuntu MID" which is obsolete" [Undecided,New] | 12:56 |
james_w | package? | 12:56 |
james_w | err, that's against ubuntu :-) | 12:56 |
jussi01 | james_w: I blame ogra :D | 12:56 |
jussi01 | [14:27:33] <ogra> a bug against the ubuntu-website product might work (and my misinterpretation) :D | 12:57 |
james_w | anyway the oops seems to be a timeout doing the query for related bugs | 12:57 |
jussi01 | james_w: so, where should I be filing that bug? what is the correct process? | 12:57 |
james_w | the ubuntu-website one? | 12:58 |
jussi01 | yes | 12:58 |
james_w | I'll reassign | 12:58 |
jussi01 | thanks, mucha apreciated. | 12:58 |
* james_w grumbles at the project picker | 12:58 | |
jussi01 | james_w: btew, who should I be bothering about the other bug (see #ubuntu-community-team) | 12:58 |
james_w | bug 488394? | 12:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 488394 in launchpad-registry "Export irc_nicknames with "anonymous" requests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488394 | 12:59 |
jussi01 | james_w: yes :) | 12:59 |
james_w | shouldn't be too hard to fix I think | 13:00 |
james_w | oh, wgrant gives a different suggestion for doing it that might be more work | 13:01 |
jussi01 | james_w: yeah, wgrant said similar, just a matter of doing it, no? | 13:01 |
jussi01 | heh | 13:01 |
james_w | yeah, I was suggesting you could bother yourself about it :-) | 13:01 |
jussi01 | james_w: I have no coding experience sadly. wgrants comment was: | 13:02 |
jussi01 | [12:58:39] <wgrant> jussi01: Replied on the bug with the solution. It's trivial. | 13:02 |
nigelb | jussi01: what about? | 13:05 |
jussi01 | nigelb: ? | 13:06 |
nigelb | jussi01: I saw the words trivial and bug ;) | 13:06 |
nigelb | anything I can help? | 13:06 |
jussi01 | nigelb: bug 488394 | 13:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 488394 in launchpad-registry "Export irc_nicknames with "anonymous" requests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488394 | 13:06 |
jussi01 | nigelb: theres a suggestion on the bug on how to fix | 13:06 |
nigelb | jussi01: If I can understand and manage, I'll try :) | 13:07 |
jussi01 | and I think james_whad another idea | 13:07 |
nigelb | oh ? | 13:08 |
nigelb | I dont understand it though | 13:08 |
nigelb | but if someone's willing to give me a much more clearer idea, I can think about it | 13:08 |
jussi01 | nigelb: Im not sure of LP's code either :D | 13:09 |
nigelb | I've worked wiht the API, but never actually coded it | 13:10 |
jussi01 | nigelb: although, if you are looking for trivial bugs, with python involved... we have one over in #ubuntu-bots-devel for you :D | 13:10 |
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fta2 | this build seems to be stuck: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+build/1539122 :( | 13:39 |
wgrant | bigjools: Are the repeated bohrium hangs recognised? | 13:40 |
bigjools | fta2: I'm on it | 14:12 |
fta2 | bigjools, thanks | 14:12 |
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persia | Has there been a change to launchpad in the past couple weeks that makes me log in more often? I seem to get asked multiple times a day, and I generally always have at least one LP window open in my browser. | 14:41 |
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jml | persia, on edge? | 14:44 |
persia | jml: on production | 14:44 |
persia | It's only been about 5 days that it's been > 1/day though. | 14:44 |
jml | persia, then there hasn't been a change to Launchpad in the past couple of weeks. | 14:44 |
persia | Hrm. | 14:44 |
jml | persia, maybe it's to do with the openid stuff. | 14:44 |
* persia wonders what else might be the cause. | 14:44 | |
jml | persia, at least, not that I know of. | 14:45 |
persia | jml: Ah, because the identity provider isn't part of "launchpad"? | 14:45 |
jml | persia, in the sense that it's a separate service with a separate code base managed to a different release schedule by another team, yes. | 14:45 |
persia | Excellent. Do you know if they have a support channel? | 14:46 |
jml | #is on canonical's IRC server, I think. | 14:47 |
* persia tries #canonical-sysadmin hoping that's close enoug | 14:49 | |
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SiNiESTrO | http://staging.launchpad.net doesn't work | 15:18 |
SiNiESTrO | :( | 15:18 |
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jml | SiNiESTrO, it's down atm while we update it. | 15:36 |
SiNiESTrO | Ok! no problem | 15:36 |
SiNiESTrO | I have a question... Is it possible to create a distribution project in Launchpad demo? | 15:37 |
jml | no. | 15:38 |
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mthaddon | jml: until the transition of from login.launchpad.net SSO as completely external to LP, login issues should still be handled here, I think | 16:53 |
jml | mthaddon, ahh, ok. my bad. | 16:54 |
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quappa | I tried to % bzr branch lp:lernid and got this: bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "<Fault -1: 'OOPS-1522XMLP97'>") | 17:32 |
ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522XMLP97 | 17:32 |
quappa | google returns 0 results and nothing on help.launchpad.net | 17:33 |
quappa | the URL from ubottu is password protected | 17:33 |
maxb | quappa: Try again, it works for me, so perhaps it was just a momentary glitch | 17:41 |
quappa | maxb, no, it's persists. what's more, all my attempts to use lp: with bzr ends with this error | 17:46 |
maxb | Hmm. I guess it must be specific to your user. | 17:48 |
beuno | hrm | 17:48 |
beuno | http://paste.ubuntu.com/387132/ | 17:48 |
beuno | rockstar, abentley, ^ | 17:49 |
abentley | quappa, what is your launchpad user-id? | 17:50 |
quappa | abentley, it's "kkapp" | 17:51 |
rockstar | beuno, wtf? What were you doing? | 17:51 |
beuno | rockstar, not me, quappa | 17:51 |
rockstar | quappa, is your email address hidden? | 17:52 |
abentley | quappa, this looks like a disabled account. Is that correct? | 17:52 |
quappa | rockstar, no, I visisted my account page on the web -- "Hide email address" is not checked | 17:53 |
quappa | abentley, why would it be disabled? I never used it for anything except bug reporting and commenting. | 17:54 |
rockstar | quappa, are you sure you gave us the right user-id? | 17:54 |
quappa | rockstar, this is my page https://launchpad.net/~kkapp/ | 17:55 |
quappa | display name is "Алексей Капранов (Alex Kapranoff)" -- cyrillic and latin. | 17:55 |
abentley | quappa, the user icon is our grey "inactive person" icon | 17:56 |
quappa | abentley, it's grey here too. I've never changed by user icon from default, btw. | 17:57 |
abentley | quappa, normally, that would mean it was in colour. | 17:58 |
abentley | quappa, like this: https://launchpad.net/@@/person-logo | 17:59 |
quappa | abentley, when I visit https://launchpad.net/~kkapp/+edit I see blue default "mugshot" | 17:59 |
quappa | abentley, but the small one is still grey. what should I do to fix it? can it be related to that OOPS-XML error from bzr? | 18:00 |
ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=XML | 18:00 |
abentley | quappa, I suspect it's the cause of the oops-xml error. I am checking with some people who know more about this. | 18:01 |
ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=xml | 18:01 |
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quappa | abentley, thanks a lot. | 18:02 |
deryck | I seem to be getting mail to the launchpad lists much slower than everyone else today. | 18:04 |
abentley | quappa, have you changed the email address registered with Launchpad recently? | 18:04 |
* deryck will worry about it after lunch | 18:04 | |
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abentley | quappa, also, do you happen to know when you registered your account? | 18:06 |
quappa | abentley, I cannot even find such an option in my interface now. there's details and branding. I don't think I changed my email address recently. | 18:07 |
quappa | abentley, oldest emails from launchpad I can find in my mbox are from 2006-12-07. That's probably very close to the registration date. | 18:08 |
salgado | 2006-03-27 seems to be when ~kkapp was created | 18:10 |
quappa | abentley, nope, I found a translation I took part in on 2006-08-07. | 18:11 |
quappa | salgado, thanks! | 18:11 |
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salgado | quappa, care to try setting your @rambler email as your preferred one and deleting the other one? if that works you should be able to re-add the one you deleted and switch to it | 18:17 |
quappa | salgado, how can I do that? | 18:18 |
salgado | quappa, https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editemails | 18:18 |
salgado | if that page doesn't crash | 18:20 |
quappa | salgado, thanks. when I try to set my @rambler.ru address as my "contact address in Launchpad" I see "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." | 18:20 |
salgado | quappa, that's weird. can you retry? | 18:21 |
quappa | salgado, I did :) it persists. | 18:21 |
salgado | quappa, no OOPS or anything? | 18:21 |
quappa | salgado, nothing. | 18:21 |
quappa | salgado, then I tried to add my gmail address and got "(Error ID: OOPS-1522F1374)" | 18:22 |
ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522F1374 | 18:22 |
quappa | salgado, btw, you suggested that I delete the other email address. I only have one on that page. | 18:23 |
salgado | indeed | 18:25 |
salgado | quappa, I was hoping we'd be able to somehow fix the data corruption ourselves, but that won't be possible. I'll chase someone with the necessary rights to do it. | 18:28 |
Breaking_Pitt | can launchpad be installed in a debian machine? | 18:29 |
Breaking_Pitt | or has dependencies with ubuntu | 18:29 |
quappa | salgado, thanks! how can I help? | 18:32 |
james_w | Breaking_Pitt: I know people have had issues trying before, but they shouldn't be too deep | 18:34 |
Breaking_Pitt | the install script ask me to enable multiverse repositories | 18:34 |
Breaking_Pitt | so i don't know if i had to add ubuntu repositories in order to install it on debian | 18:35 |
maxb | Breaking_Pitt: It's likely possible to coax into working, but you'll need to be prepared to look behind the basic helper scripts and be prepared to fix things. | 18:36 |
Breaking_Pitt | i've supposed but if I run it on ubuntu i will have the same problems, maxb ? | 18:37 |
maxb | You want to do Launchpad development work on Debian? | 18:37 |
Breaking_Pitt | not only on debian I mean if I have to use ubuntu I can use it | 18:38 |
maxb | Most Launchpad development happens on Ubuntu, so the documentation and scripts all assume you will use Ubuntu | 18:39 |
Breaking_Pitt | ok I'll give a try on ubuntu | 18:39 |
Breaking_Pitt | thanks maxb | 18:39 |
maxb | Are you installing a new server for this? (How come you can just change distro so easily?) | 18:40 |
persia | maxb: I change distro several times a day through a combination of VMs and chroots. Once set up, it's not hard to maintain. | 18:41 |
Breaking_Pitt | i have a vm machine in xen with a clean install of debian lenny | 18:42 |
salgado | quappa, should be fixed now. and sorry for the inconvenience | 18:48 |
quappa | salgado, yes, thanks, I confirm, looks like everything is fixed! bzr works and my page on the web has suddenly much more information. Thanks a lot! | 18:55 |
salgado | np | 18:55 |
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asabil | hi all | 20:49 |
asabil | could someone fix the following code import please: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ejabberd/trunk ? | 20:49 |
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mwhudson | asabil: would deleting the import and redoing it with bzr-svn be ok? | 20:52 |
asabil | mwhudson, they moved to git | 20:52 |
mwhudson | asabil: oh | 20:52 |
mwhudson | asabil: just request a new import then | 20:52 |
asabil | oki | 20:52 |
asabil | mwhudson, but can't you fix the one from ~vcs-imports ? | 20:54 |
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mwhudson | asabil: well, i can delete it | 20:54 |
asabil | otherwise lp:ejabberd won't work | 20:54 |
mwhudson | well that's a different thing | 20:55 |
mwhudson | i can set that up once you've created a new import | 20:55 |
mwhudson | asabil: did you just create an import and then delete it? | 20:56 |
asabil | well, I don't understand why it should be under ~asabil instead of ~vcs-import ? | 20:56 |
asabil | yes :) | 20:56 |
mwhudson | asabil: we're making import branches less of a special case | 20:56 |
mwhudson | asabil: so create the import again, and i can hook it up as lp:ejabberd | 20:57 |
asabil | okidoki | 20:57 |
asabil | done | 20:57 |
asabil | and thanks a lot | 20:57 |
jack__ | how do you upload to an specific ppa repo of one project? I have more ppa's in the project... | 21:12 |
gnomefreak | i hate OOPS' | 21:13 |
jack__ | mmh after upload how long does it take to find it in the repo? | 21:18 |
jack__ | ? | 21:19 |
maxb | jack__: I believe the upload processor runs every 5 minutes | 21:19 |
jack__ | maxb: ok | 21:20 |
maxb | After that, you can watch the status on the web pages | 21:20 |
maxb | Likewise, the publisher (that puts finished build results into the repository) also runs every 5 minutes | 21:20 |
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jack__ | Rejected: | 21:30 |
jack__ | Unable to find distroseries: unstable | 21:30 |
jack__ | mmh | 21:30 |
jack__ | should I put karmic in stead of unstable? | 21:31 |
maxb | Yes | 21:31 |
jack__ | in the changelog? | 21:32 |
sabdfl | jack__: lucid would be unstable, karmic would be stable, wouldn't it? | 21:32 |
maxb | After all, you are uploading a package to be built in ubuntu, so you need to name an ubuntu distroseries | 21:32 |
jack__ | and if you copy a package from a lucid ppa to a karmic ppa? | 21:32 |
jack__ | is that possible | 21:32 |
maxb | It's seldom wise to copy packages to OLDER distroseries | 21:33 |
jack__ | ok | 21:33 |
maxb | The other way is sometimes a reasonable thing to do. It all depends on the package | 21:33 |
jack__ | maxb: why not ? | 21:42 |
maxb | Many things can change from distroseries to distroseries. Shared library versions are a big one. | 21:44 |
jack__ | are you afraid those packages won t build, or are there more dangers | 21:45 |
maxb | Other things include layouts of files expected by other packages, e.g. things like where python-{support,central} keep control files | 21:45 |
maxb | jack__: You cannot copy+rebuild a package within an archive, you must either copy binaries too, or upload a new source. | 21:46 |
maxb | Hence, you can have a package which is uninstallable, or installs but fails to operate correctly | 21:46 |
jack__ | if you download the source, build it on karmic and then upload it, how's that? | 21:47 |
jack__ | (the source is from lucid) | 21:48 |
maxb | Do make sure you change the version number, in a way that the karmic package is less than the lucid package. | 21:49 |
maxb | Otherwise people upgrading to lucid won't get the package replaced by the proper lucid version | 21:49 |
jack__ | good tip | 21:50 |
jack__ | do you build it in a chroot? | 21:51 |
jack__ | or just on your karmic install | 21:51 |
maxb | Uh, this is #launchpad, are we not talking about building in PPAs? | 21:52 |
jack__ | it was about copying packages on launchpad | 21:52 |
persia | maxb: Even in #launchpad, is it not a good idea to recommend folk test-build locally prior to uploading? | 22:28 |
al | what's the usual delay for rosetta download link mails? | 23:09 |
al | been waiting a few hours now | 23:09 |
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