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bjsnidercan someone delete an orig tarball from the ppa system for me?02:09
persiabjsnider: That's unlikely to happen, because someone might have downloaded it or otherwise be relying on it.02:20
bjsniderpersia, i'm about to upload a new tarball with the same name, but the old one is in the way02:20
persiabjsnider: I understand.  The PPA system is not designed to support that use case.02:21
persiaThis was an intentional decision.02:21
bjsniderit will be deleted automatically in 7 days anywa02:22
bjsniderthe programmer released a new version without bumping the version number02:24
bjsniderhe's certainly acting the part of a numbskull02:24
persiabjsnider: The typical response is to publish a tarball like foo_1.2.3+oughtbe124.tar.gz or similar.02:30
bjsniderare you kidding me?02:31
persiabjsnider: No.  There are a fairly large number of people who believe that a given path should represent a given static object with a known checksum.02:33
persiaSo http://ppa.launchpad.net/.../foo_1.2.3.tar.gz would *always* be the same.02:33
persiaAnd if it changed, it would have a different name as well.02:33
persiaThe package management systems used in Debian-derived distributions rely on this assumption.02:34
bjsnideri was just thinking of writing this guy an angry, pithy email, but to rename the orig tarball...02:34
bjsnidercan you give me a real world example of a tarball being renamed because the number should have been bumped and wasn't?02:35
persiaI don't seem to have any installed on my system right now.02:40
persiaI remember there being some like that in the past, but I can't remember specifics.02:40
bjsniderwould 0.31.0+latest be considered newer than 0.31.0?02:44
persiabjsnider: Yes, but use dpkg --compare-versions to verify (dpkg knows better than anyone on IRC)02:45
bjsniderpersia, the system swallowed that. thanks for the guidance03:01
persiabjsnider: No problem.  Thanks for understanding the policy that makes it so.03:02
bjsnideroh, i don't question it, i just wonder why this guy didn't bump the version number03:05
persiaSome upstreams seem to not understand that having two releases with the same version may confuse users.  I generally see it when the only changes are in comments or licensing or similar stuff that upstream doesn't expect will change behaviour.03:07
bjsniderwell i'll tell you03:13
bjsniderthis tarball was 200k smaller than the previous one, which accounts for 35% of its total size03:13
persiaoh my.03:14
bjsniderthere were obviously significant changes03:14
bjsniderand in the changelog too03:14
persiaDo send upstream a note requesting a bump :)03:14
spivWhy is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nmb/bzr/mkdir-recursive-253529/+merge/19488 still in "updating diff" after almost two weeks?03:14
bjsniderhe ony bumped the part after the last dash03:14
mwhudsonspiv: i guess something broke03:15
thumperspiv: because lp:~nmb/bzr/mkdir-recursive-253529 doesn't exist yet03:33
spivthumper: then I guess that merge proposal page should say that, rather than "updating diff" :)03:41
thumperspiv: file a bug :)03:41
pooliespm, so, what's the deal, do you want me to update  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mbp/tuolumne-lp-configs/bzr-graphs/+merge/20357 ?06:10
spmpoolie: actually is all proposed and waiting: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~spm/tuolumne-lp-configs/fix_bzr-graphs/+merge/20423 which I suspect you can't see. I was going to chase tom on same; but am ~ 60% tempted to get a Q&D cross check from yourself and make it live06:12
poolieno, i can't see it06:24
pooliewhat you said previously makes sense06:24
pooliei'm in no screaming hurry to have it today rather than tomorrow06:24
pooliejust don't want it to stall06:24
pooliebased on what you said before it seems safe to merge but i don't know what the normal practice is for tuolumne06:25
Zuscan evolution open more than one email address at one time? im trying to get the gpg key to work in terminal but i get msg failed: file open error, the next easier step i would think is open  my mail in evolution but it has an email adress asigned to it already...06:37
Zusfiregpg add on said  gmail support is broken to use the one on the site...the site said if i have linux  it should be in my repositories, there was another way by saving the email in a txt file and using the terminal to read the encrytped mail....that doesnt work.... would evo lution work even though i already have an email address  pinned to it? (can i add another email address to evolution?)06:49
Zusnevermind  i got  :)07:13
arandI'm getting a "not allowed here" for https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity that's not as it should be right?07:20
spivarand: yeah, sounds like a bug07:21
arandAlso getting that if I disable edge redirect...07:21
wgrantThere's a bug on that. you can see it if you log out.07:22
* wgrant digs.07:22
spivSomething to do with related_ppa_versions?07:22
wgrantBug #51482407:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 514824 in soyuz "No permissions to view ubuntu/+source/hypre because of disabled ppa in page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51482407:23
wgrantSo, yes.07:23
wgrantI wonder if I can coerce somebody into RCing the one-line fix.07:25
spmday and a half out from a full release? /me waggles hand. 50/50 chance.07:27
wgrantExactly.07:28
arandok, good to know it's being looked into.07:33
merlijn-Hi, is this the right place to ask questions about Landscape?08:50
lifelessno, but it will do while I find out the right place for you08:51
lifelesswhat sort of stuff do you want to know?08:51
merlijn-I'm building a testsetup with Enterprise Cloud functionality08:51
merlijn-but I'm having trouble connecting Landscape to my Cloud08:51
lifelessUEC you mean?08:51
merlijn-yes08:52
lifelessI believe you need to ensure your cloud has its endpoint exposed on port 443, using ssl08:52
lifelessI've enquired about the right place to discuss it08:52
lifelessthere appears to be a #landscape08:52
merlijn-so with the default setup, I should setup stunnel to pipe SSL on 443 to port 877308:53
merlijn-#landscape appears pretty empty :)08:53
lifelessyes, but the folk there are core devs on the project08:53
merlijn-oh nice, only one of them had a cloak08:54
merlijn-anyway, let me try setting up stunnel on port 44308:54
merlijn-one problem is that I have read that Landscape will only work with real ssl certs (aka not self signed)08:57
merlijn-it seems a little off to buy one of those while just doing evaluation of the product08:57
Zusanyone still around? on the pgp/ gpg key id thats the  4 digit / 8 digit ? (the key type/id)? also wich is public and wich is the one i should keep private09:11
Zuscan anyone tell me why i cannot sign the UCoC? when i run the terminal part i gfet a file error10:06
Zuscan anyone tell me why i cannot sign the UCoC? when i run the terminal part i gfet a file error10:21
persiaZus: The number of people who joined or left in the time between your queries is much smaller than the entirety of the channel.10:22
persia!pgp10:23
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts10:23
persiaZus: try those links.  If that doesn't work, try https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey10:23
persiaIf that doesn't work, try asking in a support forum more closely aligned with the UCoC (like #ubuntu)10:24
Zus oops..10:24
Zusi got all the wya to where i donwloaded the  ucoc and have to run the terminal10:25
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jussi01Im loving the error ID's for LP... starting with "OOPS-" :D12:38
jussi01mind, it sucks that I cant file a bug :/12:38
* jussi01 tries with edge disabled12:40
jussi01ok, disabled edge and now it works :)12:44
wgrantjussi01: That's not a solution; production adopts something very close to edge's code in about 36 hours.12:44
jussi01wgrant: right, is an error code useful to you?12:45
wgrantjussi01: Not to me, but to most other people it will be.12:45
wgrantSo mentioning it here might be good.12:45
jussi01wgrant: sure: (Error ID: OOPS-1522EB454)12:45
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522EB45412:45
james_wjussi01: you were filing a bug about the ubuntu website?12:54
jussi01james_w: correct12:55
james_wyou know there is an ubuntu-website project?12:55
jussi01james_w: I was filing against ubuntu-website, is that incorrect?12:55
jussi01james_w: I did get the bug filed eventually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/53065312:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 530653 in ubuntu "Ubuntu website contains page "Ubuntu MID" which is obsolete" [Undecided,New]12:56
james_wpackage?12:56
james_werr, that's against ubuntu :-)12:56
jussi01james_w: I blame ogra :D12:56
jussi01[14:27:33] <ogra> a bug against the ubuntu-website product might work (and my misinterpretation) :D12:57
james_wanyway the oops seems to be a timeout doing the query for related bugs12:57
jussi01james_w: so, where should I be filing that bug? what is the correct process?12:57
james_wthe ubuntu-website one?12:58
jussi01yes12:58
james_wI'll reassign12:58
jussi01thanks, mucha apreciated.12:58
* james_w grumbles at the project picker12:58
jussi01james_w: btew, who should I be bothering about the other bug (see #ubuntu-community-team)12:58
james_wbug 488394?12:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 488394 in launchpad-registry "Export irc_nicknames with "anonymous" requests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48839412:59
jussi01james_w: yes :)12:59
james_wshouldn't be too hard to fix I think13:00
james_woh, wgrant gives a different suggestion for doing it that might be more work13:01
jussi01james_w: yeah, wgrant said similar, just a matter of doing it, no?13:01
jussi01heh13:01
james_wyeah, I was suggesting you could bother yourself about it :-)13:01
jussi01james_w: I have no coding experience sadly. wgrants comment was:13:02
jussi01[12:58:39] <wgrant> jussi01: Replied on the bug with the solution. It's trivial.13:02
nigelbjussi01: what about?13:05
jussi01nigelb: ?13:06
nigelbjussi01: I saw the words trivial and bug ;)13:06
nigelbanything I can help?13:06
jussi01nigelb: bug 48839413:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 488394 in launchpad-registry "Export irc_nicknames with "anonymous" requests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48839413:06
jussi01nigelb: theres a suggestion on the bug on how to fix13:06
nigelbjussi01: If I can understand and manage, I'll try :)13:07
jussi01and I think james_whad another idea13:07
nigelboh ?13:08
nigelbI dont understand it though13:08
nigelbbut if someone's willing to give me a much more clearer idea, I can think about it13:08
jussi01nigelb: Im not sure of LP's code either :D13:09
nigelbI've worked wiht the API, but never actually coded it13:10
jussi01nigelb: although, if you are looking for trivial bugs, with python involved... we have one over in #ubuntu-bots-devel for you :D13:10
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fta2this build seems to be stuck: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+build/1539122  :(13:39
wgrantbigjools: Are the repeated bohrium hangs recognised?13:40
bigjoolsfta2: I'm on it14:12
fta2bigjools, thanks14:12
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persiaHas there been a change to launchpad in the past couple weeks that makes me log in more often?  I seem to get asked multiple times a day, and I generally always have at least one LP window open in my browser.14:41
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jmlpersia, on edge?14:44
persiajml: on production14:44
persiaIt's only been about 5 days that it's been > 1/day though.14:44
jmlpersia, then there hasn't been a change to Launchpad in the past couple of weeks.14:44
persiaHrm.14:44
jmlpersia, maybe it's to do with the openid stuff.14:44
* persia wonders what else might be the cause.14:44
jmlpersia, at least, not that I know of.14:45
persiajml: Ah, because the identity provider isn't part of "launchpad"?14:45
jmlpersia, in the sense that it's a separate service with a separate code base managed to a different release schedule by another team, yes.14:45
persiaExcellent.  Do you know if they have a support channel?14:46
jml#is on canonical's IRC server, I think.14:47
* persia tries #canonical-sysadmin hoping that's close enoug14:49
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SiNiESTrOhttp://staging.launchpad.net doesn't work15:18
SiNiESTrO:(15:18
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jmlSiNiESTrO, it's down atm while we update it.15:36
SiNiESTrOOk! no problem15:36
SiNiESTrOI have a question... Is it possible to create a distribution project in Launchpad demo?15:37
jmlno.15:38
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mthaddonjml: until the transition of from login.launchpad.net SSO as completely external to LP, login issues should still be handled here, I think16:53
jmlmthaddon, ahh, ok. my bad.16:54
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quappaI tried to % bzr branch lp:lernid and got this: bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "<Fault -1: 'OOPS-1522XMLP97'>")17:32
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522XMLP9717:32
quappagoogle returns 0 results and nothing on help.launchpad.net17:33
quappathe URL from ubottu is password protected17:33
maxbquappa: Try again, it works for me, so perhaps it was just a momentary glitch17:41
quappamaxb, no, it's persists. what's more, all my attempts to use lp: with bzr ends with this error17:46
maxbHmm. I guess it must be specific to your user.17:48
beunohrm17:48
beunohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/387132/17:48
beunorockstar, abentley, ^17:49
abentleyquappa, what is your launchpad user-id?17:50
quappaabentley, it's "kkapp"17:51
rockstarbeuno, wtf?  What were you doing?17:51
beunorockstar, not me, quappa17:51
rockstarquappa, is your email address hidden?17:52
abentleyquappa, this looks like a disabled account.  Is that correct?17:52
quapparockstar, no, I visisted my account page on the web -- "Hide email address" is not checked17:53
quappaabentley, why would it be disabled? I never used it for anything except bug reporting and commenting.17:54
rockstarquappa, are you sure you gave us the right user-id?17:54
quapparockstar, this is my page  https://launchpad.net/~kkapp/17:55
quappadisplay name is "Алексей Капранов (Alex Kapranoff)" -- cyrillic and latin.17:55
abentleyquappa, the user icon is our grey "inactive person" icon17:56
quappaabentley, it's grey here too. I've never changed by user icon from default, btw.17:57
abentleyquappa, normally, that would mean it was in colour.17:58
abentleyquappa, like this: https://launchpad.net/@@/person-logo17:59
quappaabentley, when I visit https://launchpad.net/~kkapp/+edit I see blue default "mugshot"17:59
quappaabentley, but the small one is still grey. what should I do to fix it? can it be related to that OOPS-XML error from bzr?18:00
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=XML18:00
abentleyquappa, I suspect it's the cause of the oops-xml error.  I am checking with some people who know more about this.18:01
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=xml18:01
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quappaabentley, thanks a lot.18:02
deryckI seem to be getting mail to the launchpad lists much slower than everyone else today.18:04
abentleyquappa, have you changed the email address registered with Launchpad recently?18:04
* deryck will worry about it after lunch18:04
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abentleyquappa, also, do you happen to know when you registered your account?18:06
quappaabentley, I cannot even find such an option in my interface now. there's details and branding. I don't think I changed my email address recently.18:07
quappaabentley, oldest emails from launchpad I can find in my mbox are from 2006-12-07. That's probably very close to the registration date.18:08
salgado2006-03-27 seems to be when ~kkapp was created18:10
quappaabentley, nope, I found a translation I took part in on 2006-08-07.18:11
quappasalgado, thanks!18:11
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salgadoquappa, care to try setting your @rambler email as your preferred one and deleting the other one?  if that works you should be able to re-add the one you deleted and switch to it18:17
quappasalgado, how can I do that?18:18
salgadoquappa, https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editemails18:18
salgadoif that page doesn't crash18:20
quappasalgado, thanks. when I try to set my @rambler.ru address as my "contact address in Launchpad" I see  "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."18:20
salgadoquappa, that's weird.  can you retry?18:21
quappasalgado, I did :) it persists.18:21
salgadoquappa, no OOPS or anything?18:21
quappasalgado, nothing.18:21
quappasalgado, then I tried to add my gmail address and got "(Error ID: OOPS-1522F1374)"18:22
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1522F137418:22
quappasalgado, btw, you suggested that I delete the other email address. I only have one on that page.18:23
salgadoindeed18:25
salgadoquappa, I was hoping we'd be able to somehow fix the data corruption ourselves, but that won't be possible.  I'll chase someone with the necessary rights to do it.18:28
Breaking_Pittcan launchpad be installed in a debian machine?18:29
Breaking_Pittor has dependencies with ubuntu18:29
quappasalgado, thanks! how can I help?18:32
james_wBreaking_Pitt: I know people have had issues trying before, but they shouldn't be too deep18:34
Breaking_Pittthe install script ask me to enable multiverse repositories18:34
Breaking_Pittso i don't know if i had to add ubuntu repositories in order to install it on debian18:35
maxbBreaking_Pitt: It's likely possible to coax into working, but you'll need to be prepared to look behind the basic helper scripts and be prepared to fix things.18:36
Breaking_Pitti've supposed but if I run it on ubuntu i will have the same problems, maxb ?18:37
maxbYou want to do Launchpad development work on Debian?18:37
Breaking_Pittnot only on debian I mean if I have to use ubuntu I can use it18:38
maxbMost Launchpad development happens on Ubuntu, so the documentation and scripts all assume you will use Ubuntu18:39
Breaking_Pittok I'll give a try on ubuntu18:39
Breaking_Pittthanks maxb18:39
maxbAre you installing a new server for this? (How come you can just change distro so easily?)18:40
persiamaxb: I change distro several times a day through a combination of VMs and chroots.  Once set up, it's not hard to maintain.18:41
Breaking_Pitti have a vm machine in xen with a clean install of debian lenny18:42
salgadoquappa, should be fixed now.  and sorry for the inconvenience18:48
quappasalgado, yes, thanks, I confirm, looks like everything is fixed! bzr works and my page on the web has suddenly much more information. Thanks a lot!18:55
salgadonp18:55
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asabilhi all20:49
asabilcould someone fix the following code import please: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/ejabberd/trunk ?20:49
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mwhudsonasabil: would deleting the import and redoing it with bzr-svn be ok?20:52
asabilmwhudson, they moved to git20:52
mwhudsonasabil: oh20:52
mwhudsonasabil: just request a new import then20:52
asabiloki20:52
asabilmwhudson, but can't you fix the one from ~vcs-imports ?20:54
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mwhudsonasabil: well, i can delete it20:54
asabilotherwise lp:ejabberd won't work20:54
mwhudsonwell that's a different thing20:55
mwhudsoni can set that up once you've created a new import20:55
mwhudsonasabil: did you just create an import and then delete it?20:56
asabilwell, I don't understand why it should be under ~asabil instead of ~vcs-import ?20:56
asabilyes :)20:56
mwhudsonasabil: we're making import branches less of a special case20:56
mwhudsonasabil: so create the import again, and i can hook it up as lp:ejabberd20:57
asabilokidoki20:57
asabildone20:57
asabiland thanks a lot20:57
jack__how do you upload to an specific ppa repo of one project? I have more ppa's in the project...21:12
gnomefreaki hate OOPS'21:13
jack__mmh after upload how long does it take to find it in the repo?21:18
jack__?21:19
maxbjack__: I believe the upload processor runs every 5 minutes21:19
jack__maxb: ok21:20
maxbAfter that, you can watch the status on the web pages21:20
maxbLikewise, the publisher (that puts finished build results into the repository) also runs every 5 minutes21:20
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jack__Rejected:21:30
jack__Unable to find distroseries: unstable21:30
jack__mmh21:30
jack__should I put karmic in stead of unstable?21:31
maxbYes21:31
jack__in the changelog?21:32
sabdfljack__: lucid would be unstable, karmic would be stable, wouldn't it?21:32
maxbAfter all, you are uploading a package to be built in ubuntu, so you need to name an ubuntu distroseries21:32
jack__and if you copy a package from a lucid ppa to a karmic ppa?21:32
jack__is that possible21:32
maxbIt's seldom wise to copy packages to OLDER distroseries21:33
jack__ok21:33
maxbThe other way is sometimes a reasonable thing to do. It all depends on the package21:33
jack__maxb: why not ?21:42
maxbMany things can change from distroseries to distroseries. Shared library versions are a big one.21:44
jack__are you afraid those packages won t build, or are there more dangers21:45
maxbOther things include layouts of files expected by other packages, e.g. things like where python-{support,central} keep control files21:45
maxbjack__: You cannot copy+rebuild a package within an archive, you must either copy binaries too, or upload a new source.21:46
maxbHence, you can have a package which is uninstallable, or installs but fails to operate correctly21:46
jack__if you download the source, build it on karmic and then upload it, how's that?21:47
jack__(the source is from lucid)21:48
maxbDo make sure you change the version number, in a way that the karmic package is less than the lucid package.21:49
maxbOtherwise people upgrading to lucid won't get the package replaced by the proper lucid version21:49
jack__good tip21:50
jack__do you build it in a chroot?21:51
jack__or just on your karmic install21:51
maxbUh, this is #launchpad, are we not talking about building in PPAs?21:52
jack__it was about copying packages on launchpad21:52
persiamaxb: Even in #launchpad, is it not a good idea to recommend folk test-build locally prior to uploading?22:28
alwhat's the usual delay for rosetta download link mails?23:09
albeen waiting a few hours now23:09

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