[12:58] <slytherin> ttx: ping
[13:00] <ttx> slytherin: pong
[13:00] <slytherin> ttx: pm?
[13:00] <ttx> sure
[13:04] <nthykier> ttx, slytherin: hey, regarding libservlet2.4-java - looks like eclipse from 3.5.2 on will be able to work without it
[13:05] <nthykier> I have not confirmed it yet; but considering that we got rid of the jetty5 dependency I think it is plausible
[13:05] <slytherin> nthykier: Great.
[13:07] <slytherin> ttx: Do you have a list of packages where dropping -gcj form recommends to suggests is the only change?
[13:07] <ttx> hmm
[13:08] <ttx> Maybe it's not the only change, but here is a list:
[13:08] <ttx> libbcprov-java, liblog4j1.2-java, libantlr-java, antlr3, libjaxp1.3-java, libxerces2-java, libxalan2-java
[13:09] <ttx> All those implemented Suggest for specific arch + an arch-all
[13:09] <ttx> I mean arch=any
[13:09] <ttx> so that deps are recalculated differently for each arch
[13:11] <ttx> those are the gcj-enabled libs on the server CD, basically. Modified so that they don't pull all GCJ on the server CD as a Recommend, basically.
[13:12] <slytherin> ttx: Fine. Since it is agreed in Debian java team that we should move -gcj packages to suggests, I want to merge such changes in Debian.
[13:13] <ttx> slytherin: you should clean those up, then... have then arch=all and remove the arch-dependent recommends/suggests
[13:14] <slytherin> yes
[13:59] <AnAnt> persia:
[13:59] <AnAnt> persia: ping
[13:59] <persia> Yes?
[13:59] <AnAnt>    persia  Bother.  Both querants have parted :(                                                                                                        22:17
[13:59]  * persia doesn't generally like contentless pings
[14:00] <AnAnt> about yesterdays' question
[14:00] <AnAnt> regarding LP 530204, is it alright if I give upgrade log on karmic (not lucid) ?
[14:00] <persia> No.
[14:00] <persia> Well, kinda.
[14:00] <persia> You want to make sure it installs cleanly on lucid.
[14:01] <persia> You also want to make sure it upgrades cleanly from both karmic and hardy.
[14:01] <persia> The upgrades are less critical to test than the current release for FFe, but just as critical for release.
[14:02] <AnAnt> well, I can only test the clean install
[14:02] <AnAnt> on lucid that is
[14:02] <AnAnt> is that sufficient ?
[14:03] <persia> Why?
[14:03] <AnAnt> actually I can test the karmic to lucid upgrade too
[14:03] <persia> You can also test lucid -> lucid upgrade.
[14:03] <persia> Just install on a lucid chroot, and then upgrade.
[14:03] <AnAnt> ok
[14:03] <AnAnt> thanks
[14:41] <AnAnt> done
[14:43] <persia> AnAnt: Excellent.
[15:01] <AnAnt> thanks
[21:55] <nikolaj_basher_> I'm a newbe in the java world. But is it easy to make a configuration program too an server configuration