[00:15] <BUGabundo> fta: heads up: latest daily of gwibber is dead. kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/386650/
[00:17] <ddecator> huh, it's working for me
[00:18] <BUGabundo> ddecator: upgrade :D
[00:19] <ddecator> BUGabundo, i just did a dist-upgrade and it didn't show up, but i just might not be able to access it yet
[00:19] <BUGabundo> lucid?
[00:19] <BUGabundo> don't do dist upgrades
[00:19] <BUGabundo> those are evil
[00:20] <BUGabundo> instead do $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[00:20] <ddecator> karmic
[00:20] <crimsun> kenvandine: I proposed a fairly trivial merge for lp:gwibber, but I don't think you're subscribed (sorry): https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~crimsun/gwibber/fix_comment_hig_compliance/+merge/20189
[08:41] <BUGabundo_remote> bom d|a
[08:47] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: kenvandine: latest gwibber trunk http://paste.ubuntu.com/386841/
[11:07] <Trouble> I've just updated to firefox_3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu5~mfs~karmic1, re-started Firefox and suddenly I'm feeling a performance increase and seeing Firefox (and Xorg) using less CPU! :-D
[11:09] <Trouble> My laptop is now a lot perkier :-p
[11:13] <asac> cool ;)
[11:14] <asac> and yes ...fffox 3.6 is better ;)
[11:15] <Trouble> I should have said I updated from firefox 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~mfs~karmic1 ;-)
[11:17] <Trouble> My laptop has been practically flying since updating!
[12:20] <Milos_SD> Hi
[12:21] <Milos_SD> I was here a month ago with a problem with dom.ipc.plugins.enabled=true
[12:21] <Milos_SD> with that option set on true, Firefox 3.7 would freez on every page that has flash
[12:21] <Milos_SD> what will that be resolved?
[12:58] <sindhudweep> asac: you there?
[14:53] <gnomefreak> it looks like tb3 PPA is back
[14:54] <gnomefreak> has anyone looked at seamonkey2  yet?
[15:29] <Trouble> Where's the TB3 PPA gnomefreak?
[15:29] <gnomefreak> Trouble: its the daily PPA but tb3 is in Lucid already
[15:30] <gnomefreak> Trouble: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main  << sources entry
[15:31] <gnomefreak> or karmicjaunty ect...
[15:31] <gnomefreak> s/karmicjaunty/karmic jaunty
[15:32] <gnomefreak> Trouble: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa for an overview
[15:32] <gnomefreak> micahg: hi
[15:32] <micahg> hi gnomefreak
[15:33] <gnomefreak> micahg: i hought we were no longer using tb3 daily PPA
[15:34] <Trouble> gnomefreak: I thought you meant a "stable" PPA (like for Firefox), but I see the dailies for TB 3.0.3 have stopped now we're up to 3.1, so that gives me an opportunity to update my TB to a stable version on Karmic, so thanks anyway :)
[15:34] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, it's there
[15:34] <micahg> brb
[15:34] <gnomefreak> Trouble: we are not using 3.1 for a while
[15:35] <gnomefreak> sorry we are not using ff-3.1 any longer now the package will be just "firefox"
[15:36] <gnomefreak> same with thunderbird IIRC
[15:36]  * gnomefreak not sure if the trasnition has been pushed to <lucid
[15:36] <Trouble> I'm using 3.6 from the firefox-stable PPA :-p
[15:37] <gnomefreak> Trouble: for karmic?
[15:37] <Trouble> yea
[15:37] <gnomefreak> Trouble: once its updated it will no longer carry a version #
[15:37] <Trouble> That sounds good to me
[15:37] <gnomefreak> that is why the firefox-stable PPA
[15:38] <micahg> Trouble: dailies haven't stopped...amd64 is broke...I'll fix tonight
[15:39] <micahg> tb3.1 is broke as well
[15:39] <gnomefreak> micahg: transitioning firefox to <lucid?
[15:40] <micahg> gnomefreak: later
[15:40] <Trouble> Hehe it's all good. I'm not interested in 3.1 yet, and my amd64 machine is currently down leaving me with this i386 laptop :-p
[15:40] <micahg> mozilla might actually release a 3.0.19...
[15:41] <Trouble> Initially I was just referring to the fact that there is a firefox-stable PPA for 3.6, but not a thunderbird-stable PPA for stable releases of 3.0.x. I thought gnomefreak was saying there was a thunderbird-stable PPA ;-)
[15:41] <gnomefreak> Trouble: nope sorry
[15:42] <Trouble> Never had any real problems using the 3.0.x nightlies tho :)
[15:42] <micahg> Trouble: 3.0.x wasn't so stable yet :) 3.0.3 is though...I also have to check the backlog of bugs to make sure we don't have any issues yet
[15:43] <Trouble> I'm gunna update from 3.0.2pre (20100131) to the 3.0.3 in the PPA
[15:53] <micahg> hmm
[15:53] <micahg> when did the daily switch..I must have missed that
[15:54] <micahg> fta: you switched the thunderbird daily to the unversioned package?
[16:01] <micahg> asac: around?
[16:14] <gnomefreak> i havent seen him yet
[16:43] <gnomefreak> micahg: have you heard anything on SM2/sunbird-lightning 1 ?
[16:44] <fta> micahg, asac: if you want a stable ppa for moz stuff, drobotik can maintain it automatically. you can add something similar to what i've done for the chromium channels, i.e. I pass CHANNEL={beta,dev,stable} to get-orig-source via the pocket conf file
[16:45] <fta> (i lack both time and motivation to do it myself) :P
[16:46] <micahg> gnomefreak: heard?
[16:46] <micahg> fta: that's ok, although I might use the bot to update a stable ppa
[16:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: are either ready for Lucid
[16:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: no
[16:47] <micahg> fta: so is tb3.head abandoned now?
[16:47] <fta> micahg, 3.0, yes
[16:48] <micahg> fta: k, I'll update the branches so tb.head is lp:thunderbird/3.0
[16:48] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[16:57] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: you made chromium too good
[16:57] <BUGabundo_remote> it won't die
[16:57] <BUGabundo_remote> not even with pkill chromium-b
[16:58] <BUGabundo_remote> not even with pkill *-9* chromium-b
[16:58] <BUGabundo_remote> I got a window stuck, and can't get rid of it :\
[16:59] <fta> lol
[16:59] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, what is the pid state? Z? D?
[17:01] <fta> micahg, the desktop file of 3.6 in the ppa still mention beta
[17:01] <fta> +s
[17:01] <micahg> fta: k, I'll update
[17:02] <micahg> fta, you think changing it to Firefox 3.6 is sufficient?
[17:03] <fta> micahg, iirc, asac wants the ppa to remain namoroka, not firefox (i don't really like it but i won't fight for it)
[17:03] <micahg> fta: just the comment where it said beta, not the title
[17:04] <fta> yep
[17:05] <micahg> hmm, maybe it should say Firefox Daily Buily?
[17:05] <fta> micahg, change it to "Firefox pre-release" or something
[17:05] <fta> as the release notes point to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/prerelease.html
[17:05] <fta> i meant, the comment, not the title
[17:05] <micahg> right
[17:07]  * gnomefreak gone for a while
[17:07] <fta> wooww.. 3.6 is really slow for <canvas>
[17:07] <micahg> fta: fixed
[17:07] <fta> or js in general
[17:16] <micahg> fta: was the original fennec code all in mobile-browser?
[17:20] <fta> i don't remember
[17:21] <fta> hm.. i no longer have the branch locally :p
[17:21] <micahg> fta: k, I'll try it like it is first
[17:23] <mahfouz> I filed a bug today about 3.7 concerning crashes: is it normal that 3.7 freezes
[17:23] <mahfouz> or is it just me?
[17:23] <mahfouz> I'm not sure what the problem is, could be flash
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> mahfouz: prob process separation stuff
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> if you turn that off, it will work maravelous
[17:30] <mahfouz> how can i turn it off?
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> I'm stump we can't get mozilla to branch alpha2
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> so I can't use my addons :(
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> mahfouz: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2010-01-27/multi-process-plugins-on-by-default/
[17:31] <BUGabundo_remote> [reed]: http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly#comment-41247  ?
[17:31] <BUGabundo_remote> what is there missing ?
[17:32] <mahfouz> i thought the point of separation is that firefox does not crash :)
[17:37] <BUGabundo_remote> ahahah
[17:37] <BUGabundo_remote> irony isn't it mahfouz
[17:37] <mahfouz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535612
[17:37] <mahfouz> this is reportedly fixed
[17:38] <mahfouz> but I still have a flash issue
[17:41] <mahfouz> http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2010-01-27/multi-process-plugins-on-by-default/#comment-430177
[17:41] <mahfouz> I guess this is my issue, comment 430177
[19:02] <micahg> mahfouz: anyhone answer your question?
[19:18] <mahfouz> micahg, well I guess it's an issue with the new dom.ipc
[19:18] <mahfouz> maybe I shld file on mozilla but I don't have an account there yet
[19:18] <mahfouz> micahg, can you run 3.7 with dom.ipc.plugins.enabled?
[19:23] <micahg> mahfouz: don't have time to test now....if this the flash issue with clicks?
[19:23] <micahg> *is
[19:23] <mahfouz> well, it just freezes during loading the page
[19:23] <mahfouz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/530604
[19:24] <mahfouz> ** (firefox-3.7:14282): WARNING **: Serious fd usage error 14
[19:24] <micahg> ah, yeah, that was already filed I thought
[19:24] <micahg> mahfouz: does it work with the upstream build?
[19:25] <mahfouz> hmm, have to download
[19:26] <mahfouz> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[19:26] <mahfouz> I try this one
[19:26] <micahg> k
[19:37] <mahfouz> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /home/bkoenig/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [/home/bkoenig/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64]
[19:38] <mahfouz> I don't have flash in upstream build, so I get no freezes
[19:39] <gnomefreak> every time i read all my lucid changes list email i get mostly kde libs :( when i go through fast (normal) i never see any  :(
[19:40] <mahfouz> gnomefreak, then don't read at all
[19:40] <micahg> mahfouz: try this one: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.7a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
[19:40]  * gnomefreak still not sure why they dont upload as 1
[19:41] <gnomefreak> micahg: 3.7 is still extreamly slow here with/without flash
[19:41] <gnomefreak> but its been like that a while
[19:41] <mahfouz> was it the bits, I have 64bit atm, but x86_64 didn't run
[19:41] <micahg> gnomefreak: I have a feeling that we're not installing something
[19:42] <mahfouz> ok, this download runs for me
[19:42] <gnomefreak> micahg: what could we be missing? wouldnt it FTBFS if we were not installing something?
[19:43] <micahg> gnomefreak: idk, not necessarily
[19:43]  * gnomefreak thought it would be noticable or failure during dh_* at the end of build
[19:44] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, we just found something missing in ff3.6
[19:44] <gnomefreak> ah
[19:44] <mahfouz> wow, the upstream build of 3.7 rocks
[19:44] <micahg> I just haven't had time to look into 3.7 yet
[19:44] <mahfouz> flash and everything is fine
[19:44] <micahg> mahfouz: w/flash?  64 bit?
[19:45] <gnomefreak> how do i find all bugs ive commented on in mozilla bug tracker
[19:45] <micahg> gnomefreak: advanced search maybe
[19:45] <mahfouz> flash 64 bit and with ipc.plugins.enabled "true"
[19:45] <mahfouz> everything fine
[19:45] <micahg> mahfouz: k, so we need to investigate here more
[19:45] <mahfouz> did you see the errors, I posted on the bug report?
[19:46] <micahg> mahfouz: not yet, unfortunately, not a priority as we still need to get a few things in lucid
[19:46] <gnomefreak> ill look after email but im looking for the tb3 customize tool bar.
[19:46] <mahfouz> np, just wanted to let you know
[19:46] <mahfouz> ** (firefox-3.7:14282): WARNING **: Serious fd usage error 14
[19:46] <mahfouz> ** (firefox-3.7:14282): WARNING **: Serious fd usage error 12
[19:46] <micahg> mahfouz: thanks, feel free to poke me after beta 1
[19:46] <mahfouz> just those two errors, do you know what they mean?
[19:46] <gnomefreak> we still didnt package 64bit flash or did we
[19:47] <micahg> mahfouz: no, but it's been reported already I think
[19:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, it's not released yet
[19:47] <mahfouz> ah, ok
[19:47] <gnomefreak> i didnt think adobe ever released stable builds
[19:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: yes, they do
[19:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: it's supposed to be in a release after 10.1
[19:49] <gnomefreak> everyone is going to want it for <=Lucid and backporting flash has been a problem as far as i tried.
[19:49] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you have time to do seamonkey 2?
[19:49] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, the main problem was that it wasn't ready IIRC
[19:50] <gnomefreak> micahg: its too much of a mess for me to touch it. we have to add all packages that was removed and not sure if script for source is still there or if he added it to debian/rules
[19:50] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/03/firefox-may-never-hit-25-percent-market-share.ars
[19:50] <micahg> gnomefreak: ok, I'll have to try to squeeze it in the next 2 weeks then
[19:50] <gnomefreak> files were also removed and same with nobinonly
[19:50] <micahg> I'm working on prism and fennec now
[19:51] <gnomefreak> if i can figure out how to fix sunbird to grab 1.0b1 since as of now it will only grab stable release
[19:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: don't we need thunderbird-dev first?
[19:52] <gnomefreak> i had tried using tb3 stuff but it didnt work. this was for 0.9 pre release
[19:52] <mahfouz> micahg, btw, it's definitely the ipc.plugins stuff, daily build ppa version works fine also if I disable ipc
[19:52] <micahg> mahfouz: ok, we're probably not installing something
[19:52] <gnomefreak> we dont have t*-dev package?
[19:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: not for TB3 yet
[19:54] <gnomefreak> oh ok than it can wait for that. its not really a priority for Lucid. it can always get to a PPA. I should have more time for lucid+1
[19:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: well, enigmail is broke in lucid, so it's kinda a priority...
[19:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes it is, however enigmail is still a mess of crap. im not sure why it is the way it is.
[19:55] <micahg> gnomefreak: 1.0 was released and it should be fine
[19:55]  * gnomefreak has been using upstream dev. enigmail
[19:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok i will try it in a bit
[19:59] <micahg> gnomefreak: it should probably be similar to xul-191-dev
[19:59] <gnomefreak> micahg: you mean engimail?
[19:59] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, tb-dev
[19:59] <micahg> gnomefreak: you need tb-dev for enigmail
[20:00] <gnomefreak> micahg: we need it for xul-192-dev no?
[20:01] <micahg> gnomefreak: no
[20:02] <gnomefreak> i thought 192 was for tb3
[20:02] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, 191
[20:02] <micahg> 3.1 is 192
[20:02] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: do you recall what the problem was for 3.1?
[20:03] <micahg> gnomefreak: after the branding landed, the build broke
[20:04] <micahg> I never had time to fix
[20:04] <micahg> and beta 1 is next week
[20:04] <gnomefreak> IIRC we have a branding patch, shouldnt that be the only change except maybe the *.desktop
[20:05] <micahg> no, that wasn't it
[20:05] <gnomefreak> oh
[20:05] <gnomefreak> that would have been too easy ;)
[20:05] <micahg> well, actually, it might have had something to do w/the branding patch..
[20:06] <micahg> yeah, something was missing
[20:07] <micahg> and right now comm-central has tb31 and tb32
[20:08] <gnomefreak> there is a tb32 already. although they should be same base code ATM
[20:08] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, I think sm21 and tb32 are the same
[20:09] <gnomefreak> sm2.1 is pretty much sm2.0 AFAIR
[20:09] <gnomefreak> was may not be now
[20:09] <micahg> well, only 2 bugs targeted for 3.2 ATM
[20:10] <micahg> well, idk, but sm21 and tb32 should be on 193
[20:11] <micahg> sm21 already has 107 bugs targetted with about half fixed
[20:11] <gnomefreak> they always start next release with stable code to start with. i had asked in IRC mozilla.org servers dont recall who i spoke to but he is main dev for sm
[20:13] <gnomefreak> at least that was when devscripts was grabbing 2.1 source rather than 2.0
[20:28] <micahg> gnomefreak: my guess is by now they've diverged...sm20 has had 4 releases
[20:30] <gnomefreak> micahg: yeah by now they have have
[20:30] <gnomefreak> - one have
[20:30] <gnomefreak> !info firefox hardy
[20:39] <gnomefreak> just my luck gwibber doesnt start
[20:46] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: if you are around do you have a sec about gwibber not starting. more so a way to debug daily version
[20:47] <gnomefreak> i guess i just did :)
[20:47] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, not a gwibber bug :)
[20:47] <kenvandine> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktopcouch/+bug/530716
[20:47] <kenvandine> they are working on a fix asap
[20:47] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: thanks i didnt see that one
[20:48] <gnomefreak> missed it since i was looking for gwibber bug
[20:48] <kenvandine> :)
[20:50] <gnomefreak> maybe its just me but it seems like desktopcouch is broken more than not
[21:24] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: got the id for that couch bug ?
[21:25] <BUGabundo> gwibber service is stuck at 100% when ever it starts
[21:25] <kenvandine> bug 530716
[21:25] <kenvandine> we might have a fix
[21:25] <kenvandine> i need to reboot to test it for sure
[21:26] <BUGabundo> thanks
[21:39] <BUGabundo> asac: I know of a NM bug that can't remember hidden SSIDs?
[21:39] <BUGabundo> I'm getting bashed on twitter
[21:39] <asac> BUGabundo: for what?
[21:39] <BUGabundo> and Ubuntu may loose an entire faculty,
[21:39] <BUGabundo> cause they can't get it to work with 9.10
[21:39] <BUGabundo> asac: wifi, of course
[21:41] <BUGabundo> trying to get him on IRC or a bug report
[21:41] <BUGabundo> we are talking about one of the biggest faculties in portugal
[21:41] <BUGabundo> and they have all PCs with dualboot
[21:41] <BUGabundo> and provide users with their own remake of Ubuntu
[21:42] <BUGabundo> the guy incharge his making the new semester version
[21:42] <BUGabundo> and has several nasty bugs, some of them with keychain and one with NM
[21:42] <BUGabundo> they use wpa2 enterprise, with hidden SSIDs
[21:43] <BUGabundo> a limitation of cisco equipement they have their , to serve eduroam/E-U network
[21:44] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/473139
[22:00] <BUGabundo> asac: can you take a quick look at that ^^^
[22:01] <BUGabundo> and see if there's anything you can do?
[22:01] <BUGabundo> I would hate to loose this much users!