=== nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [02:28] In #ubuntu, brjann said: !ops ^^aoham is advertising, contact RainbowEyes for details [02:31] * genii scrounges for more caffeine [06:15] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:15] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:15] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:15] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:19] knock knock? [06:20] If you've a query ask. If someone is able to address it, they shall. [06:21] when trying to connect to #ubuntu, I get diverted to a room whee a bot is telling me my router is all *cough unpoliteness*uncough*'d up and has a DCC Exploit or something [06:21] DaemonFC: yes [06:21] this has never happened before and nothing in my configuration has changed [06:21] DaemonFC: you haven't been around when exploit attack happened, then? (: [06:22] Tm_T, So what's with the sudden nature of the unpleasantness of the firmware that Linksys will probably never update again? [06:22] DaemonFC: have you read the link in the topic of that channel? [06:23] I just want to know exactly what's wrong on my end before I go around poking with things and make it look like it's OK again but have really left a problem unfixed [06:24] DaemonFC: the link will explain what's the deal (: [06:24] so it's nothing more than changing a port? [06:24] is there some kind of worm banging on people's clients? [06:25] DaemonFC: yeah, all you need it to change the port [06:25] alrighty then, it was just unexpected [06:25] thanks and have a good one [06:25] arand called the ops in #ubuntu () [06:32] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [06:42] * elky pokes the bot [06:43] !ping [06:43] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [06:43] then log me in, you inane pile of bytes [06:44] @btlogin [06:44] !btlogin [06:44] :( [06:44] mean bot. [06:44] it's slow, the ban database is getting slow [06:44] ... 3 minutes of slow [06:44] yup [06:44] Sorry, I don't know anything about btlogin [06:45] from the /msg ubottu btlogin 3 minutes ago [06:45] it's monday already? [06:45] you did @login and then @btlogin? [06:45] @whoami [06:46] @whoami [06:46] myrtti [06:46] :( [06:46] o___0 [06:46] it hates me [06:46] Well, that's clear. [06:46] someone gimme a bt session link plzkthx [06:51] heh my previous session for it still works [06:53] I'm watching out for igawoem in -ot. [06:56] !pm > aaron_liuj [07:01] elky: you have done @login ? [07:01] to no avail [07:02] can you please do it again, in channel? [07:03] elky: ^^ [07:03] @login [07:03] The operation succeeded. [07:03] wtf, now you listen? [07:04] s/f/.../ [07:04] every thing else work now? ;) [07:04] @btlogin [07:04] apparently yes [07:04] @whoami [07:04] elky [07:05] i did pm the login before, maybe that was the prob? [07:05] perhaps [07:07] tonyyarusso: ping [07:34] hi all [07:35] is it possible to use ubottu in #ubuntu-id ? thanks [07:41] good morning [07:41] morning daniel [07:41] moin :-) [07:42] hey :) [07:42] * Myrtti goes to run errands before buses and mail traffic grinds to a halt [07:48] jpds: could you drop a clone in there? [07:49] (see the request from petsounds) [07:52] morning jussi01 [07:52] huomenta knome [07:52] yes, the Finnish mafia grows [07:53] heh [07:55] gonna go grab some breakfast now, see you guys later [08:22] jussi01: pong [08:22] tonyyarusso: PM [08:22] ? [08:22] sure [08:25] Just a reminder for all that the memberships for the ops teams expire tomorrow, so if you havent renewed yet and want to.... [08:27] jussi01: and how I can make sure I haven't forgot any? (: [08:28] Tm_T: look at your memberships on lp and the dates they expire? [08:39] !voivr [08:39] !voice me [08:40] p1oooop: request denied. anything else we can help you with? [08:42] I'd like to know why I was banned from ubuntu [08:42] *#ubuntu [08:42] @login [08:42] The operation succeeded. [08:43] please stand by. [08:44] it appears that the router you use is susceptible to a know exploit [08:44] *known [08:44] oh my [08:44] did you get redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic, and if so, did you read the topic? [08:45] I guess IRC isn't safe anymore :P [08:45] I didn't follow the link though, should I do that [08:45] yeah, I'll do that [08:46] attemtping to follow instructions before asking for help with the instructions is usually a good idea. ;) [08:48] So, how does the voicing in this channel work? Ops can see everything, but non-ops can't see each other? [08:50] persia: no, voicing is done that ops are voiced and anyone can talk. the +v is for identification only. [08:50] persia: same as #freenode [08:51] * persia has never been to #freenode [08:51] so mneptok I was wondering what the exploit is [08:51] jussi01: But that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I thought it was a strange hack. [08:51] persia: yw [08:51] * p1oooop thought voicing was necessary for talking before today :P [08:52] p1oooop: Depends on the channel. Does the link not give you enough infomation? [08:53] huh, again people ruin services for other people :P [08:53] anyone know who the "abusive users" are? [08:53] any channel that is -m does not need +v or +o to speak [08:57] p1oooop: there are many of them and they are usually removed from the network as soon as an attack happens [08:58] I would be surprised if they were not [08:58] !modes| persia, this is a really good reference [08:58] persia, this is a really good reference: There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [08:58] well, time for me to go... don't wanna clog up the channel [09:02] jussi01: Thanks. I should delve ubottu's brain more often. [09:03] persia: theres a lot there, but !search is really useful if you are looking for something. [09:03] !search modes [09:03] Found: framebuffer, umode, modes [09:03] !umode [09:03] There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [14:44] Pici: the realname looks like the turkish onjoin spammers [14:44] Myrtti: I didn't see where it was reported who was spamming [14:44] just do a lastlog on phaedra [14:44] nevermind, I see it now [14:47] I kicked Guest02344 [~Laki_On_c@95.66.47.246] earlier === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [16:23] how does one go about changing a channel topic now that ops is required? [16:25] bjf: which channel ? [16:25] #ubuntu-kernel [16:25] bjf: contact one of the ops team for that channel [16:26] how do I know who the ops team is for any channel? [16:26] /cs access #channel list [16:26] /msg chanserv acccess #ubuntu-kerel list [16:26] persia: wow - quick [16:26] thanks [16:32] "/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-kernel list" didn't tell me anything [16:33] bjf: Tells me lamont zul mdz jdub [16:34] bjf: Check a response from (notices) or similar. [16:34] persia, all I got in the channel was: ">chanserv< access #ubuntu-kernel list" [16:35] * persia takes to /query [17:09] heya bjf, you all sorted out now? did persia get everything sorted for you? [17:10] No actually, for some reason bjf was never able to get the access list directly. [17:10] I passed the relevant information, so the need is gone, but I don't understand why chanserv was being uncooperative [17:11] bjf: What jussi01 is hinting at with the question is that those not ops are discouraged from idling in the channel. [17:17] kkathman: Id go and get yourself a cloak also if I was you ;) [17:17] a cloak? does it need to be black? [17:18] Just for those who dont know him, kkathman is an op from #kubuntu-offtopic [17:18] hi kkathman :) [17:18] kkathman: Given your role, I'd suggest a blue one. [17:18] * Mamarok was going to suggest so, too [17:18] Hey Mamarok [17:19] Hmm not sure I understand the blue vs. black but ok :) [17:19] * Myrtti adds oil on the axis of the rotating door [17:25] heh [17:26] kkathman: "blue" being the colour most frequently associated with "Kubuntu". [17:26] persia: ahhh IC [17:26] Kubuntu cloaks are usually something like "kubuntu/member/kkathman" [17:27] really? hm.... [17:28] Myrtti: ? [17:33] kkathman: or, more prcisely, with KDE :) [17:33] Mamarok: procedure to get one? Or am I taking this too seriously:) [17:33] hm, I guess I need to pull out some cat hair again from my keyboard... [17:34] kkathman: well, are you a Kubuntu member? [17:34] It's been a long time ago...I think so...my name appears in the K documenation that I helped write [17:35] i've not heard of kubuntu cloaks before [17:35] kkathman: What's your LP ID? [17:35] but I couldn't swear to it....i have the launchpage stuff [17:35] kkathman: then ask Riddell or some other Kubuntu person to get you a cloak [17:35] Myrtti: I believe there to also be edubuntu cloaks, but similarly rare. [17:36] kubuntu members are ubuntu members and get ubuntu cloak afaik, but ymmv [17:36] Myrtti: no, there are Kubuntu cloaks, since like ever [17:37] persia https://launchpad.net/~kkathman [17:37] right... [17:37] Ah, you aren't a Kubuntu Member [17:38] I don't remember the last time I granted a Kubuntu member cloak [17:41] I am a kubuntu member... points to cloak [17:41] jussi01: Perhaps you should be using your own account too. [17:41] Hmm... [17:41] jussi01: your cloak says ubuntu [17:41] ok Pici :) [17:42] Pici: hrm? :D [17:42] so am I understanding that the cloak isn't being offered and I should just forget it then? [17:42] kkathman: You can request an unaffiliated cloak from #freenode [17:42] kkathman: member cloaks are for members, and there is a clear process on how to become a member: [17:43] !member | kkathman [17:43] kkathman: Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [17:43] kkathman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Membership [17:43] * persia has a blue-shaded link :p [17:43] persia: you beat me on that one :) [17:43] * persia had the advantage of having been digging on the wiki for 5 minutes [17:43] seems like I went through that once before but I didn't meet qualifications for being a member [17:44] kkathman: Perhaps that was a while ago? [17:44] 2005 [17:45] there was something IIRC that had to do with you had to be involved in the development or doing packaging.. [17:45] pft [17:45] kkathman: That's not what the wiki page says. "Contributions in all areas are welcome ..." [17:45] I wroked on the K-documentation wtih robotgeek but apparently that didn't qualify as whatever "contribution" criteria they were using at the time [17:46] Try again. I bet that's changed. [17:46] i've not packaged anything in my life, so the rules have changed [17:46] The contribution needs to bee sustained though. [17:46] Pici I see [17:47] I remember that I just couldn't meet the requirements....I traveled a lot back then and was not home for a while [17:48] kkathman: nah, I am a member since quite some time, there never was need of being a packager [17:49] Might have been different for Kubuntu way-back-when, but that was a bug that was fixed. [18:02] In ubottu, livy said: no no, wine is helpful [18:08] hi kkathman [18:08] Hi Tm_T :) [18:12] jussi01: oh and yeah, I haven't seen kubuntu cloaks (: [18:15] folks [18:15] can you voice kenvandine in #ubuntu-classroom [18:15] sure [18:16] It seems a rather involved process...to be a "member". But I understand the need I suppose. [18:16] kkathman: use kubuntu-path, more familiar faces [18:17] Tm_T: huh? [18:18] kkathman: to be ubuntu-member, you get yourself through one of regional boards or some team board, like kubuntu [18:18] or ubuntu motu [18:18] ye [18:18] those are pretty much the options though [18:19] Mamarok: back when I joined, there was no "stated" requirement to be a packager, but I was told by the powers that be at the time, that it was almost a requirement that you be in development. For instance, promoting and teaching in a company wasn't enough. [18:19] kkathman: times have changed (: [18:19] yeah, even I'm a member [18:20] being a packager is prolly easiest way to show your contributions though [18:20] Tm_T: I understand. The wiki says you have to basically petition, get on the agenda of some meeting, basically prepare a statement, etc. [18:21] kkathman: it's the same for everyone :) [18:21] kkathman: yeah, like "I've been around in $channels helping people, advocating in local business and so on" (: [18:21] I couldn't show continual contribution other than being in $k-o all the time, basically. I did work on the doc at one time [18:21] kkathman: prepare a wiki, make yourself known, the work you do, etc. [18:22] so perhaps I should just resign the ops. Nalioth was the one that opped me way back when because he wanted a little more grey hair in there... now perhaps not necessary [18:22] pft [18:22] you can be an op without being a member [18:22] Mamarok: its in my launchpad wiki [18:23] it makes things easier, but it's not necessary [18:23] Although I should update that content a bit [18:23] Myrtti: at one point you couldn't though....k-o was the exception I think [18:24] kkathman: no need to resign, you can get an uaffiliated cloak quite easily [18:24] kkathman: There are a number of ops who are not members and many of us got our membership because we were operators, not the other way around. [18:24] Mamarok: I'd like an affiliated one...with Megan Fox if that's possible [18:25] Pici lol - I've been one basically since I guess. Warty [18:25] thats a long time :) [18:26] Nalioth, Robotgeek and I actually had a lunch togehter...pretty fun [18:26] that was when robotgeek was still in the DFW area [18:29] kkathman: neat :) If you still want a cloak, you're going to need to ask in #freenode [18:29] Ok... I'll ask in there then. That would be the unaffiliated one? [18:30] Yes. [18:31] I don't mind pursuing the membership in kubuntu, but I feel I'd be pretty light on contirbution...ops for 5 years, worked on the K-documentation a few years ago...That about it...so probably too light to be considered [18:32] kkathman: being a helper in channels is contribution [18:32] I appreciate that Tm_T :) We go back a ways too eh? [18:32] Megan Fox, eh... right... [18:33] kkathman: only some, err, 5 years or so (: [18:33] heh [18:33] to me that's a while :) [18:34] kkathman: Do apply rather than giving up. I sit on a couple of the various boards and councils that grant membership, and I promise that if you've been doing steady work since way back when, and folk vouch for you, you can become a memeber. [18:35] persia okie dokie === KB1JWQ is now known as Sorthum === Sorthum is now known as KB1JWQ [18:48] kkathman: that was not even remotely funny... [18:48] ? [18:49] Megan Fox, you should know better as an op :( [18:50] Was there something wrong? Was just a funny. Apologize if anyone was offended... [19:04] oh the drama in -irc [19:05] * Pici is watching, quietly [19:05] I don't know -de channels enough to be able to comment in useful way [19:12] * MenZa either [19:15] * MenZa tries to refresh his German [19:15] * Pici uses gtrans.pl [19:16] heckler action [19:16] remind me again why it's a good idea to allow idling in here? [19:17] no, don't answer [19:17] Myrtti: because we don't hug others enough? [19:17] heh [19:20] Should I check out the logs from the channel? [19:26] MenZa: it should be logged by the eubot [19:26] good point [19:46] MenZa: Thanks for trying to mediate in there [19:47] Happy to help. [19:55] The -de IRC guidelines page is phenomenal. [19:57] it looks nice [19:57] the little I understand of it [20:00] I love their appeals section [20:00] "Take a deeeeeep breath, stay calm, and don't get emotional" [20:02] can someone ping me in 35 mins, just so I remember? :D (cakes in the oven and no cake timer... :D ) [20:02] .P [20:03] jussi01: man at [20:08] MenZa: really well done in there, thanks from me also :) [20:08] :) [20:10] Right, I'm off to nurse my sick girlfriend. The poor girl's sick. [20:10] Aherm. [20:10] * MenZa tautologises. [20:10] ehm. [20:25] * genii slides MenZa a thermos of coffee for the journey [20:30] !ping [20:30] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [20:39] staff, ty. [20:40] ♥ [20:43] genii: Thankies [21:16] did anyone post minutes from sundays meeting? [21:18] Isn't that why we have logs? [21:26] i thought minutes were shorter than a log of the whole channel [21:26] sorry was on phone [21:29] Oh yeah, can be :) [21:49] yeah, I havent yet posted them, sorry [21:49] they are on mootbots logging still [21:50] jussi01: no problem [21:50] * gnomefreak can wait as long as need be [21:53] could only wait for 3 minutes :)