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TakyojiWho would win in a pro-wrestling match against each other? RMS or Torvalds? :o00:16
kermitRMS00:16
TakyojiI don't think there's anything on the wiki or the website that implies that we have monthly meetings. :P00:18
kermittclug doesnt even hamev monthly meetings00:18
TakyojiI love how Empathy also lacks a handful of IRC functionality00:19
Takyojisuch as whois/whowas00:19
tonyyarussoTakyoji: this is true00:21
TakyojiBy the way, it isn't RJ4500:21
TakyojiIt's something like 8P8C or something..00:21
Takyojihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8P8C00:22
TakyojiRJ45 is the common misconception00:22
TakyojiCan't easily find the Google calendar for the group either on the website00:23
* tonyyarusso hides in shame00:24
tonyyarussoActually, the Google calendar was one of my talking points00:24
kermitthat thing is useful!  facebook should copy or integrate with it00:24
TakyojiShould also get a relatively technologically-inept individual and have them browse or try to find information00:25
TakyojiI think there's actually a way to sync events from Facebook00:25
tonyyarussothere is.  There are apps to convert your FB events to ical and such00:27
tonyyarussoAdd your points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/MeetingAgenda if you have any00:28
Takyojialso, is the underline in the navigation intentional?00:28
TakyojiBecause otherwise I can fix that00:28
Takyojiand I'm still too stupid to find the Google calendar on the website..00:29
Takyojiand as of using free fonts, the "Upcoming Events" navigation element seems to break to a new line on my system..00:30
tonyyarussoI'm not sure which underline you mean00:30
TakyojiAbout Us needs an icon00:30
Takyojitonyyarusso: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/Screenshot.png?t=126748994200:32
tonyyarussoTakyoji: you mean the line between divs?00:33
Takyojithe underlining of each navigation element00:33
tonyyarussoyeah, that's a border, not an underline.00:35
TakyojiErm00:35
TakyojiBorder, yes00:35
TakyojiI'm not thinking straight today00:35
kermityou're in luck, mondays is one of the saloon's biggest nights.00:36
tonyyarussoour web site has had visitors from the Philippines, Morocco, Indonesia, and Argentina00:39
TakyojiHeh, if only the Ubuntu Wiki had Etherpad-like functionality00:39
TakyojiIt would be very interesting00:39
tonyyarussoalong with Virginia, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kansas, and DC :)00:39
* Takyoji edits the wiki, saves, edits, saves, edits, saves.00:43
* Takyoji twitches with OCD00:43
tonyyarussookay, dinner's ready - I'll get back as soon as I can00:45
* tonyyarusso is back01:07
tonyyarussoAdremelech, exigraff, h00k, jenkinbr, kermit, mr_steve, sparklehistory, Takyoji, zomGreg: Meeting!01:08
TakyojiThen start already. :P01:10
tonyyarussoha, ok01:10
sparklehistoryyeah, that's what I was waiting for!01:10
tonyyarussoUbuntu Hours:  What have you done / where / how did it go / what do you want to try differently?01:10
tonyyarussosparklehistory and I have been meeting at Barnes & Nobles on Thursday afternoons.01:11
tonyyarussoThe wifi works, and it's quiet, so we can get homework done, but not a lot of traffic and nobody's talked to us so far.01:11
tonyyarussoMight need to consider a coffee shop type thing to get more attention perhaps...  I know the Mpls guys have been trying that - any success?01:12
tonyyarussoif they were here that is...01:13
tonyyarussoTakyoji: have you done any?01:13
TakyojiI don't have really money at hand, and no accomplice.01:15
tonyyarussoWe tried B&N since it was free.  An accomplice does help - surely you have at least one friend IRL, right?  ;)01:16
TakyojiI don't have anyone that's technologically-orientated, nor anyone that would seem interested.01:17
tonyyarussohmm01:19
tonyyarussoWell, work on that.01:19
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tonyyarussoI guess without the other people here that's about it for that.01:19
tonyyarussoTakyoji: update us on the status of that 5-a-dayish time idea?01:20
TakyojiHaven't really done much in regards of writing a Drupal module for such yet..01:21
tonyyarussookay, want to tell us about the two things you added the agenda then ?01:22
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h00kgreetings, sorry I'm late.01:25
TakyojiWas just a few ideas for what people could do, otherwise we could perhaps use another method for keeping record of the whole "5-a-day"-ish thing01:25
TakyojiSuch as the wiki perhaps, or just a really basic script, or something.01:25
Takyoji(Sidenote, there's also the Laptop Testing project; which anyone could participate in)01:25
h00kI had an Ubuntu Hour over in Wisconsin, It wasn't the best night for it, nobody came, but we had three people. At least we had the comradery.01:26
tonyyarussoh00k: where'd you go?01:26
h00ktonyyarusso: We went to a coffee shop in Superior - Red Mug01:27
tonyyarussoTakyoji: perhaps our web site should have a page of "stuff that's really easy to get started with"?01:27
h00khttp://www.redmugcoffee.com/01:27
h00kThey were very nice, except they happened to have the port xmpp uses blocked on their wireless, I wasn't too happy.01:27
* Takyoji pokes at the quietness with a stick01:30
tonyyarussoall right01:31
tonyyarussoweb site stuff01:31
tonyyarussoI think it would make sense to move the Google Calendar stuff over to Drupal, so things will integrate better.01:32
tonyyarussoOne of the things I could do with that is send out meeting reminders, so these would be less dead.01:32
tonyyarussothoughts?01:32
tonyyarusso(Yes, it would still output an ICS, so you could add it to your google calendar view or other PIM tool)01:32
TakyojiI have no objections01:32
h00kThat'd be a good idea, I think it worked well for Wisconsin to have a reminder01:33
h00kand good call to keep an ICS01:33
tonyyarussoWould it be weird for a non-human (the site) to send messages to the mailing list occasionally?01:33
h00kfor what purposes? meeting reminders?01:34
tonyyarussoat first at least - open to suggestions if you know of other use cases01:34
h00kI think would save some legwork for meeting reminders01:34
* exigraff is here, late01:35
h00kor any other date reminders of things01:35
* h00k shrugs01:35
h00kI can't think of anything else that it could be used for01:35
tonyyarussok01:36
tonyyarussoI could use more help poking around and adding stuff - remember that you can do that.01:36
sparklehistorysending messages seems ok to me, other sites do it01:36
h00kmaybe if the mailing list is dead it could throw a /usr/bin/fortune in there once a week ;)01:36
Takyojiheh01:36
tonyyarussohaha01:37
exigraffa mailing list bot would be awesome. seeing imposterbot contribute to the threads would make my day.01:38
tonyyarussoall right, so event enabling of web site good01:39
tonyyarussoTakyoji: you added "other tweaks" - did you have something in mind?01:39
* h00k gives thumbsup01:39
TakyojiJust where anyone lists any changes that should be made in terms of content, layout, design--anything of the website01:40
tonyyarussoWell, I'd say two things to that:01:40
tonyyarusso1)  Just do it if it's simple.  No need to write down "oh hey, 'somebody' should..."01:40
tonyyarusso2)  File bugs against the ubuntu-minnesota-projects LP project01:41
Takyojiotherwise what else does the website need to be in feature-parity with the wiki?01:42
TakyojiJust simply migrate other content as well?01:42
tonyyarussoSome cleanup to look nice, a way of recording minutes for events (there's a module), better linkage to launchpad for tracking progress on to-do items01:43
tonyyarussoafter that it will have parity, and we can work on making it better.01:45
Takyojialso, I have a minor critique, in regards of the navigation on the right01:45
* h00k can't find the plastic forks01:45
TakyojiConsidering we have pages that discuss the same information; and perhaps someone might follow one of the links, and become lost on the main Ubuntu website01:46
Takyoji(considering the same theme and everything as well)01:46
tonyyarussoa fair point01:46
tonyyarussoWe should make sure that the pages we have link to the external pages in a clear fashion, and then we can remove those.01:47
h00kThe left sidebar looks kinda silly, but that might just be my netbook01:48
tonyyarussofile a bug ;)01:48
tonyyarussoh00k: it is kind of silly.01:48
Takyojiin regards of the borders, correct?01:48
tonyyarussoOne perk of the right sidebar is it has better styling - we may want to try to steal some of that01:48
h00klemme screenshot01:48
TakyojiI'm just not sure01:48
Takyojih00k: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/Screenshot.png?t=1267489942 Correct?01:49
TakyojiI was just figuring nothing in the background would make it a "clean" theme. Otherwise do you want descriptions per primary navigational element, or?01:49
h00kTakyoji: http://anthonyrhook.com/dump/Screenshot-2.png01:50
h00kTakyoji: yeah, basically.01:50
tonyyarussoperhaps we should just make the font size a little smaller in those links01:50
TakyojiOr shorten the name(s)01:52
TakyojiEither "Events" or "Calendar"01:52
tonyyarussotrue01:52
tonyyarusso'k, that's simple enough.01:52
tonyyarussoLet's talk release parties a little.01:52
tonyyarussoh00k: any contact about that up there yet?01:52
h00ktonyyarusso: Nothing planned specifically, I talked to a guy who is maybe interested in seeing if we can get a room at the chamber or something01:53
tonyyarussoBrian was talking to me about repository mirrors, and I suspect he's planning to do TIES again.01:53
h00kA projector, show off some apps to people01:53
tonyyarussocool01:53
TakyojiI have a few people thinking of a potential location I could have one locally01:53
h00kThat's in Superior, anyway. We're getting some activity around LaCrosse too, it seems.01:54
tonyyarussonifty01:55
tonyyarussomr_steve: It'd be cool if we could have something west of the river as well, btw01:55
tonyyarussoalso, where the heck is Alpha_Cluster for the northwest?01:55
tonyyarussosemi-related note:  I will be in Finland, MN the weekend after release (May 7-9)01:56
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Faribault locally or some other town in the area?01:57
TakyojiEmailled nnonix (month ago or so), but he hasn't really thought of any yet. I also have another person who's doing a job in Texas for a few weeks or so, but will be back, and whom is also thinking of a location01:57
Takyoji(someone whom knows a lot of people in the community and so forth)01:57
TakyojiSomeone whom is also interested in having Ubuntu installed (although I may install 9.10 first; when she returns)01:58
TakyojiMost likely in Faribault by the way01:59
tonyyarussookay, cool01:59
TakyojiJust would have to figure out how to promote it accordingly; once a location is decided (if ever)02:00
tonyyarussoWe'll need to do a lot of legwork this month (MARCH!  crazy) to really be ready in time for those, so start talking about that stuff a lot, both in person and on the ML.02:00
tonyyarussoAs far as promotion, we have a list of Media contacts already put together, and if we have details ahead of time can get flyers from System76.02:00
tonyyarussoboth of those require that we know what's going on more than two days in advance though, so timing is key.02:00
Takyojiyea02:01
TakyojiStill about 2 months until the release of Lucid02:01
Takyoji(considering it's released at the end of April if I remember correctly)02:01
TakyojiApril 29th02:02
TakyojiThus 59 days remaining02:02
tonyyarussocorrect02:03
TakyojiIs there a counter yet for the Lucid release?02:03
tonyyarussobut it creeps up fast ;)02:03
tonyyarussoI haven't seen one yet - I'll ask02:03
TakyojiBecause it should be the Drupal plugin, although I don't think they've decided on a theme and image yet02:04
TakyojiYea, it's not updated yet: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown02:04
TakyojiSomeone should annoy people on #ubuntu-artwork, or?02:05
tonyyarussoI'm already annoying someone02:05
Takyojiwith a cattle prod and all..02:05
tonyyarussoI think that's it for our business for now then.02:06
Takyojiotherwise we could even simply have a stupid text-based one that works via Javascript. :P02:06
tonyyarussoeww02:06
TakyojiI think we should also have the Ubuntu logo trail the cursor, and have animated navigational elements, and images for horizontal dividers..02:07
Takyojiand random irrelevant GIFs02:07
Takyoji:P02:07
Takyojihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LucidCountdownBanners02:09
tonyyarussoanyone want to edit a 4000-line KML file by hand for me?  :P02:14
TakyojiSure! :D02:14
sparklehistoryI have no idea what that is, but I'm guessing no02:15
Takyojior perhaps have it scripted. :P02:15
Takyojihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KML02:15
tonyyarussothis job needs a human02:16
h00kBah, sorry, I'm working right now and I had a rush of people. Is why I haven't been saying much.02:20
* Obsidian1723 later all23:45

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