[00:16] Who would win in a pro-wrestling match against each other? RMS or Torvalds? :o [00:16] RMS [00:18] I don't think there's anything on the wiki or the website that implies that we have monthly meetings. :P [00:18] tclug doesnt even hamev monthly meetings [00:19] I love how Empathy also lacks a handful of IRC functionality [00:19] such as whois/whowas [00:21] Takyoji: this is true [00:21] By the way, it isn't RJ45 [00:21] It's something like 8P8C or something.. [00:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8P8C [00:22] RJ45 is the common misconception [00:23] Can't easily find the Google calendar for the group either on the website [00:24] * tonyyarusso hides in shame [00:24] Actually, the Google calendar was one of my talking points [00:24] that thing is useful! facebook should copy or integrate with it [00:25] Should also get a relatively technologically-inept individual and have them browse or try to find information [00:25] I think there's actually a way to sync events from Facebook [00:27] there is. There are apps to convert your FB events to ical and such [00:28] Add your points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/MeetingAgenda if you have any [00:28] also, is the underline in the navigation intentional? [00:28] Because otherwise I can fix that [00:29] and I'm still too stupid to find the Google calendar on the website.. [00:30] and as of using free fonts, the "Upcoming Events" navigation element seems to break to a new line on my system.. [00:30] I'm not sure which underline you mean [00:30] About Us needs an icon [00:32] tonyyarusso: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/Screenshot.png?t=1267489942 [00:33] Takyoji: you mean the line between divs? [00:33] the underlining of each navigation element [00:35] yeah, that's a border, not an underline. [00:35] Erm [00:35] Border, yes [00:35] I'm not thinking straight today [00:36] you're in luck, mondays is one of the saloon's biggest nights. [00:39] our web site has had visitors from the Philippines, Morocco, Indonesia, and Argentina [00:39] Heh, if only the Ubuntu Wiki had Etherpad-like functionality [00:39] It would be very interesting [00:39] along with Virginia, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kansas, and DC :) [00:43] * Takyoji edits the wiki, saves, edits, saves, edits, saves. [00:43] * Takyoji twitches with OCD [00:45] okay, dinner's ready - I'll get back as soon as I can [01:07] * tonyyarusso is back [01:08] Adremelech, exigraff, h00k, jenkinbr, kermit, mr_steve, sparklehistory, Takyoji, zomGreg: Meeting! [01:10] Then start already. :P [01:10] ha, ok [01:10] yeah, that's what I was waiting for! [01:10] Ubuntu Hours: What have you done / where / how did it go / what do you want to try differently? [01:11] sparklehistory and I have been meeting at Barnes & Nobles on Thursday afternoons. [01:11] The wifi works, and it's quiet, so we can get homework done, but not a lot of traffic and nobody's talked to us so far. [01:12] Might need to consider a coffee shop type thing to get more attention perhaps... I know the Mpls guys have been trying that - any success? [01:13] if they were here that is... [01:13] Takyoji: have you done any? [01:15] I don't have really money at hand, and no accomplice. [01:16] We tried B&N since it was free. An accomplice does help - surely you have at least one friend IRL, right? ;) [01:17] I don't have anyone that's technologically-orientated, nor anyone that would seem interested. [01:19] hmm [01:19] Well, work on that. === kermit is now known as psycholometric === psycholometric is now known as kermit [01:19] I guess without the other people here that's about it for that. [01:20] Takyoji: update us on the status of that 5-a-dayish time idea? [01:21] Haven't really done much in regards of writing a Drupal module for such yet.. [01:22] okay, want to tell us about the two things you added the agenda then ? === kermit is now known as psycholometrics === psycholometrics is now known as kermit === kermit is now known as psychometric === psychometric is now known as kermit [01:25] greetings, sorry I'm late. [01:25] Was just a few ideas for what people could do, otherwise we could perhaps use another method for keeping record of the whole "5-a-day"-ish thing [01:25] Such as the wiki perhaps, or just a really basic script, or something. [01:25] (Sidenote, there's also the Laptop Testing project; which anyone could participate in) [01:26] I had an Ubuntu Hour over in Wisconsin, It wasn't the best night for it, nobody came, but we had three people. At least we had the comradery. [01:26] h00k: where'd you go? [01:27] tonyyarusso: We went to a coffee shop in Superior - Red Mug [01:27] Takyoji: perhaps our web site should have a page of "stuff that's really easy to get started with"? [01:27] http://www.redmugcoffee.com/ [01:27] They were very nice, except they happened to have the port xmpp uses blocked on their wireless, I wasn't too happy. [01:30] * Takyoji pokes at the quietness with a stick [01:31] all right [01:31] web site stuff [01:32] I think it would make sense to move the Google Calendar stuff over to Drupal, so things will integrate better. [01:32] One of the things I could do with that is send out meeting reminders, so these would be less dead. [01:32] thoughts? [01:32] (Yes, it would still output an ICS, so you could add it to your google calendar view or other PIM tool) [01:32] I have no objections [01:33] That'd be a good idea, I think it worked well for Wisconsin to have a reminder [01:33] and good call to keep an ICS [01:33] Would it be weird for a non-human (the site) to send messages to the mailing list occasionally? [01:34] for what purposes? meeting reminders? [01:34] at first at least - open to suggestions if you know of other use cases [01:34] I think would save some legwork for meeting reminders [01:35] * exigraff is here, late [01:35] or any other date reminders of things [01:35] * h00k shrugs [01:35] I can't think of anything else that it could be used for [01:36] k [01:36] I could use more help poking around and adding stuff - remember that you can do that. [01:36] sending messages seems ok to me, other sites do it [01:36] maybe if the mailing list is dead it could throw a /usr/bin/fortune in there once a week ;) [01:36] heh [01:37] haha [01:38] a mailing list bot would be awesome. seeing imposterbot contribute to the threads would make my day. [01:39] all right, so event enabling of web site good [01:39] Takyoji: you added "other tweaks" - did you have something in mind? [01:39] * h00k gives thumbsup [01:40] Just where anyone lists any changes that should be made in terms of content, layout, design--anything of the website [01:40] Well, I'd say two things to that: [01:40] 1) Just do it if it's simple. No need to write down "oh hey, 'somebody' should..." [01:41] 2) File bugs against the ubuntu-minnesota-projects LP project [01:42] otherwise what else does the website need to be in feature-parity with the wiki? [01:42] Just simply migrate other content as well? [01:43] Some cleanup to look nice, a way of recording minutes for events (there's a module), better linkage to launchpad for tracking progress on to-do items [01:45] after that it will have parity, and we can work on making it better. [01:45] also, I have a minor critique, in regards of the navigation on the right [01:45] * h00k can't find the plastic forks [01:46] Considering we have pages that discuss the same information; and perhaps someone might follow one of the links, and become lost on the main Ubuntu website [01:46] (considering the same theme and everything as well) [01:46] a fair point [01:47] We should make sure that the pages we have link to the external pages in a clear fashion, and then we can remove those. [01:48] The left sidebar looks kinda silly, but that might just be my netbook [01:48] file a bug ;) [01:48] h00k: it is kind of silly. [01:48] in regards of the borders, correct? [01:48] One perk of the right sidebar is it has better styling - we may want to try to steal some of that [01:48] lemme screenshot [01:48] I'm just not sure [01:49] h00k: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/Screenshot.png?t=1267489942 Correct? [01:49] I was just figuring nothing in the background would make it a "clean" theme. Otherwise do you want descriptions per primary navigational element, or? [01:50] Takyoji: http://anthonyrhook.com/dump/Screenshot-2.png [01:50] Takyoji: yeah, basically. [01:50] perhaps we should just make the font size a little smaller in those links [01:52] Or shorten the name(s) [01:52] Either "Events" or "Calendar" [01:52] true [01:52] 'k, that's simple enough. [01:52] Let's talk release parties a little. [01:52] h00k: any contact about that up there yet? [01:53] tonyyarusso: Nothing planned specifically, I talked to a guy who is maybe interested in seeing if we can get a room at the chamber or something [01:53] Brian was talking to me about repository mirrors, and I suspect he's planning to do TIES again. [01:53] A projector, show off some apps to people [01:53] cool [01:53] I have a few people thinking of a potential location I could have one locally [01:54] That's in Superior, anyway. We're getting some activity around LaCrosse too, it seems. [01:55] nifty [01:55] mr_steve: It'd be cool if we could have something west of the river as well, btw [01:55] also, where the heck is Alpha_Cluster for the northwest? [01:56] semi-related note: I will be in Finland, MN the weekend after release (May 7-9) [01:57] Takyoji: Faribault locally or some other town in the area? [01:57] Emailled nnonix (month ago or so), but he hasn't really thought of any yet. I also have another person who's doing a job in Texas for a few weeks or so, but will be back, and whom is also thinking of a location [01:57] (someone whom knows a lot of people in the community and so forth) [01:58] Someone whom is also interested in having Ubuntu installed (although I may install 9.10 first; when she returns) [01:59] Most likely in Faribault by the way [01:59] okay, cool [02:00] Just would have to figure out how to promote it accordingly; once a location is decided (if ever) [02:00] We'll need to do a lot of legwork this month (MARCH! crazy) to really be ready in time for those, so start talking about that stuff a lot, both in person and on the ML. [02:00] As far as promotion, we have a list of Media contacts already put together, and if we have details ahead of time can get flyers from System76. [02:00] both of those require that we know what's going on more than two days in advance though, so timing is key. [02:01] yea [02:01] Still about 2 months until the release of Lucid [02:01] (considering it's released at the end of April if I remember correctly) [02:02] April 29th [02:02] Thus 59 days remaining [02:03] correct [02:03] Is there a counter yet for the Lucid release? [02:03] but it creeps up fast ;) [02:03] I haven't seen one yet - I'll ask [02:04] Because it should be the Drupal plugin, although I don't think they've decided on a theme and image yet [02:04] Yea, it's not updated yet: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown [02:05] Someone should annoy people on #ubuntu-artwork, or? [02:05] I'm already annoying someone [02:05] with a cattle prod and all.. [02:06] I think that's it for our business for now then. [02:06] otherwise we could even simply have a stupid text-based one that works via Javascript. :P [02:06] eww [02:07] I think we should also have the Ubuntu logo trail the cursor, and have animated navigational elements, and images for horizontal dividers.. [02:07] and random irrelevant GIFs [02:07] :P [02:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LucidCountdownBanners [02:14] anyone want to edit a 4000-line KML file by hand for me? :P [02:14] Sure! :D [02:15] I have no idea what that is, but I'm guessing no [02:15] or perhaps have it scripted. :P [02:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KML [02:16] this job needs a human [02:20] Bah, sorry, I'm working right now and I had a rush of people. Is why I haven't been saying much. [23:45] * Obsidian1723 later all