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Chaiwallahey01:33
ChaiwallaI got an OLD laptop.  500mhz, 64mb ram, Pentium 301:33
Chaiwallawhat distro will make it into a fast web browser01:33
Chaiwallasomebody installed Windows XP on it and its sloooooooooooow01:34
knomeChaiwalla, with 64MB RAM i doubt any distro will make it fast01:41
knomeChaiwalla, i mean, no distro will make it fast :P01:42
EndlessNamelessheh.. with 64 megs of ram id go for a nongraphical distro with lynx to browse. and even then expect it to lag at times01:52
Chaiwallawhat about crunchbang linux?01:54
Chaiwallaor AntiX?01:54
EndlessNamelessChaiwalla, i wouldnt know, i havent tried them. experiment and see what you like best02:21
geniiChaiwalla: delilinux runs X on an old 486-66 I have02:25
pdg1hey... I've been trying to find an app that downloads RSS feeds like Miro but is less hungry on resources02:53
WhopperDoes Xubuntu provide the xchat-gnome package?03:34
Presario2500why does XChat keep loading on startup?04:01
cobra-the-jokerHey there guys ....how can i add a keyboard  layout in xubuntu 8.04 ?05:48
cobra-the-joker!java05:49
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java products search for sun-java6 -packages from the !Multiverse repository05:49
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mikubuntuwhat could be the trouble that i can't seem to play .wmv files anymore?08:59
cobra-the-jokerHey there every one ...i have a little problem here in Xubuntu 8.0409:57
cobra-the-jokerwhen i mount any vfat filesystem ..... all the arabic folder's names are like ?????? ?? ....any one knows how to solve that ?09:59
cobra-the-jokerany body here to answer :(10:20
TheSheepcobra-the-joker: you need to check what encoding your vfat uses and pass it with the mount options10:21
Kangarooohello one of my friends acidenly removed xubuntu default menu. how to get i t bakc?10:21
TheSheepKangarooo: you mean removed from panel?10:21
Kangaroooin add aplications to panel theres only xfce menu but theres no xubuntu default menu10:21
Kangaroooyes removed from panel10:21
Kangaroooi tryd google searching and cant find right answer10:22
TheSheepKangarooo: right-click on the panel, select 'add new items', select 'xfce menu' from the list (it's at the bottom)10:22
Kangarooobut thats not the corect one.10:23
TheSheepwhat's wrong with it?10:23
Kangarooothats xfce menu but not xubuntu default menu10:24
TheSheepit's the same10:24
TheSheepyou can right-click on it and change the text and icon10:24
cobra-the-jokerTheSheep , its UTF-8 , how can i pass it to fstab ?10:27
TheSheepI hate those ask-and-run users10:29
Kangaroooim still here. i made another thing working. numlockx10:33
Kangaroooill post wishlist that numlockx on laptops is off but on pcs auto on10:34
TheSheep!bugs | Kangarooo10:35
ubottuKangarooo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots10:35
mr_pouitKangarooo: use /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu as menu file10:35
Kangarooomr_pouit: ok i put that but it looks like its the same default xfce menu10:37
Kangarooocouse choosing that didnt change anything10:38
mr_pouit/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu is the xfce one, and /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu is the xubuntu one ^^10:38
Kangarooodo u know some picbin? ill upload picture of screenshot that that xubuntu .menu is selected10:40
cobra-the-jokerTheSheep , it worked after adding utf8 in the options tab ....ty10:40
mr_pouitKangarooo: If you use xfce4-screenshooter, there's an option to upload to one directly10:41
mr_pouit(iirc)10:41
Kangaroooou cool. thats maybe from my wishlist :)10:42
Kangarooohttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/95862d9b9d1149ac88f7de97c92fdfc8.php10:47
Kangaroooit took time couse i was registering and tryd to translate french couse english page didint open10:47
mr_pouityeah, it's the default xubuntu menu10:47
mr_pouitah, you mean the menu icon/label?10:48
Kangaroooah now i understand. i just tryd that xfce and that changes menu icons and look.10:48
Kangarooothen only icon was last thing confusing me10:49
Kangarooomenu was showing like this when added xfce menu. so thouse are default settings anyway in xubuntu 9.1010:49
mr_pouityep, for the icon, put /usr/share/pixmaps/xubuntu-logo.png10:49
mr_pouitand for the label, translate "Applications" in your system locale :)10:50
Kangarooonice. thx. now i learned a little more. tomorow or maybe if ill have time ill make video tutorials for installing and putting most commonly used programms10:52
Kangarooomr_pouit: yeah i gave my friend to write it in russian. as you can see all was in russian. i installed xubuntu for him 2 days ago10:53
Kangarooook thx bye for now. im going to my computer now. later ill come back here10:53
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Kangarooowhats the name of programm witch asks for restart when updates are made? is it called restard?12:37
Kangaroooand whats the name of programm witch on shutdown asks for password?12:40
Kangaroooi mean restartd?12:40
cobra-the-joker_Hey guys ...can i change the colour of the GTK theme ?12:40
eXpl0i7cobra-the-joker: yes12:40
eXpl0i7you must edit gtkrc file12:41
cobra-the-joker_eXpl0i7 , tell me how please12:41
eXpl0i7in theme folder12:41
eXpl0i7go to theme folder12:41
cobra-the-joker_eXpl0i7 , where is that12:41
eXpl0i7/usr/share/themes12:42
cobra-the-joker_eXpl0i7 , and then ?12:43
eXpl0i7cobra-the-joker: go to http://xfce-look.org/12:43
eXpl0i7and download some themes12:43
eXpl0i7:)12:43
cobra-the-joker_eXpl0i7 , i just wanted to change the colour ...cant i ?12:44
eXpl0i7yes12:44
cobra-the-joker_aha , ok ...i think i got it12:46
eXpl0i7ex: /usr/share/stemes/Crux/gtk-2.0/12:46
eXpl0i7and fing12:46
eXpl0i7gtkrc file12:46
eXpl0i7you must be root to edit file12:47
eXpl0i7ex: sudo mousepad /usr/share/stemes/Crux/gtk-2.0/gtkrc12:47
cobra-the-joker_aha12:47
eXpl0i7cobra-the-joker: go to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GTK%2B_By_Example/Theming12:50
eXpl0i7:)12:50
cobra-the-joker_eXpl0i7 , ok12:51
Kangarooowhats the name of programm witch asks for restart when updates are made? is it called restartd?13:03
Kangaroooand whats the name of programm witch on shutdown asks for password?13:04
slow-motionhi13:04
TheSheepKangarooo: xfce4-session-logout13:07
TheSheepKangarooo: actually it's not exactly that, but you can run it with that command13:07
Kangaroooso heres is one bug report. bug witch was bug on 5 computers. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/restartd/+bug/530161 is then report for wrong programm then?13:08
Kangaroooone in #ubuntu says (03:07:01 PM) theadmin: Kangarooo: First one is just update-manager13:08
Kangarooo(03:07:17 PM) theadmin: Kangarooo: Second one is, uhm, gksu. It as well asks for all other passwords13:08
TheSheepKangarooo: ah, I thought you meant the one that starts when you click on the logout/shutdown icon/option in menu13:09
TheSheepKangarooo: I guess that's a bug for the update-manager13:10
Kangarooono no. the one witch after updates makes blue round arrow. and clicking it usually computer restarts.13:10
TheSheepthat's update-manager13:10
Kangaroooah. i was searching ubuntu restart and found restartd so i put bug report for wrong programm then. ok ill add the update-manager13:11
TheSheepKangarooo: I changed it to update-manager in that bug, if you don't mind13:12
Kangaroooaah. i also added  :D13:12
Kangaroooheres another bug witch afects sessions and startup . https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/530160 whats name of this process?13:33
TheSheepI think it's ok to leave it as xfce4-session13:41
KangaroooTheSheep: in that first bug. how did u changed to update-manager (Ubuntu) ? i added update-manager without ubuntu. how to add programms to be affected in ubuntu?13:48
mr_pouitthat's not really a bug, it's the file choose that uses gtk (which uses gio, and thus is able to see windows partitions)13:50
Kangaroooi wanted to add gksu (ubuntu) but dont know how to find gksu in ubuntu. i found only gksu and added that. but maybe then that doesnt change anything since i got messege that gksu is using other bugreporting13:50
mr_pouitwhile thunar and the rest of the desktop still uses thunar-vfs, that can only see partitions on removable drivers13:50
mr_pouit*drives13:50
Kangarooobut that is a bug couse from thunar i cant acces windows on clean instalation but from seesions adding startup and browsing i can add and see windows partition13:52
Kangaroooalso strange that gigolo is on clean install but i cant connect13:52
Kangarooousing gigolo to windows partition13:53
Kangarooonow ill write about that a bug report :)13:53
mr_pouitnot needed, that's a known issue13:54
mr_pouitit'll be fixed in xfce 4.8 (with thunar ported to gio as well)13:54
Kangarooowhen will that come out?13:58
mr_pouitscheduled for june 201013:58
Kangarooowouldnt be easyr to remove gigolo and put just ntfs-config intead? what gigolo has what ntfs config doesnt? ntfs config already now works13:59
mr_pouitnetwork support14:00
Kangarooolike network neighborhood i can see?14:00
Kangarooohmm i would like to get then gigolo work now and look at that. how then to get gigolo now work? when it works and i connect to windows partition does the partition all the time shows in thunar? automaticaly? and what about networks? automatically shown in thunar?14:01
Kangarooobut in gigolo to connect to networks i need to put them manually in bookmarks?14:04
Kangarooomr_pouit:  ?14:05
mr_pouitno, they won't show in thunar I think14:07
mr_pouit(http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6)14:09
Psilocybin_ElfQuick question guys: does Xubuntu 9.10 include PulseAudio or ALSA?14:58
Psilocybin_ElfI'm gonna install it on my brother's laptop, but heard about Pulse's problems14:59
ablomenPsilocybin_Elf, you can remove everything pulse, not sure if its in there by default too btw15:00
mr_pouitiirc, there's no pulseaudio by default in xubuntu 9.1015:01
Psilocybin_ElfOk, thanx :-)15:01
Psilocybin_ElfIs it still using ALSA by default then?15:01
TheSheepyes15:01
Psilocybin_ElfOk cool :-)15:02
Psilocybin_ElfCheers guys15:02
* genii sips and thinks about mushroom fairies15:04
* Psilocybin_Elf winks. ;-)15:04
Kangarooook i have interesting question. how to make xubuntu more faster? i could remove some starting aplications like print queue applet and xfce power manager.  but that will only make startup faster but will it also make started xubuntu use less resources? what else i could remove? maybe Xfce volume Daemon?15:15
TheSheepif you don't print, you can remove cups daemon15:18
ghoztlyI found the volume control applet (xfce4-mixer or something like that) on the panel to always appear high whenever I do a "top" operation.  Thus I removed it from the panel.15:18
TheSheepwell, if you have little memory, then removing applications will make things faster -- as they will free some memory. But if you have 0.5GB or more, you won't notice a difference15:19
mr_pouityou can also uncheck gnome compatibility in the last tab of settings > session and startup dialog15:19
TheSheepghoztly: powertop is pretty good for checking what is using lots of resources15:19
TheSheepKangarooo: using a lighter web browser, like chromium, makes it seem a lot faster too15:19
ghoztlyThere is a chipcardd4 process that is forever consuming 1% or more of CPU.  I don't HAVE a credit/bank card reader.  I think it appeared when I installed Gnu-Cash.15:21
ghoztlyOpera is MUCH faster than Firefox/Seamonkey.  Up to a point, because after extended use Opera becomes a hog!15:22
Sysi-midori <315:23
Kangaroooi think this could be worth a new wiki. or even writing a new programm witch sends reports of more consuming programms15:23
Kangaroooim not jet familiar how to corectly start a new ubuntu wiki page so maybe someone has idea where hould it be made. in witch subsection of what? xubuntu page or overall performance wiki page?15:24
ghoztlyI googled chipcardd4 once, and for more than one release of Ubuntu it is a bug on Launchpad. Convoluted process to disable, thus it is still on my system.15:24
ghoztlyI find that the file access dialogs of Xubuntu appears to be very slow - they appear, then seem to ponder for quite a few seconds before displaying the folder contents.  Is there a way of speeding that up?15:26
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Kangaroooi want to upload var/log/apt/term.log to bug report but launchpad says error canot upload empty file. i tryd sudo mousepad var/log/apt/term.log and it opened and its not empty. so i tryd to copy to home dir to upload from there but got error Failed to copy "/var/log/apt/term.log" to "/home/kng/term.log". Failed to open "/var/log/apt/term.log" for reading (Permission denied). Do you want to skip it?17:11
Kangarooohow to copy these root only files?17:13
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charlie-tcaOh17:20
charlie-tcaCopy them using sudo cp to your /home/Desktop, then sudo chown to you as the the owner. Then you can attach it17:21
charlie-tcaThanks for doing that. Hopefully, it will get this thing fixed, too.17:21
charlie-tcaI did not know  that was a root only file. I need to add that to my responses when I ask for the file.17:23
Kangarooono just maybe system could be made different. i dont know maybe for security reasons reading is also not awailable. but is that a security reason? thats only a log file. also i think any file should be able to read/upload but only sudo writes.17:33
charlie-tcaI don't know why the file is root owned. That is how Ubuntu made it. We just use it as they designed it.17:34
Kangarooowhere can i find wiki editing help? i need to comment some lines but i cant find any wiki ubuntu manual17:49
deathcannonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Formatting17:50
deathcannontry that17:50
rcscompCan anyone tell me how I can setup my F1-F4 keys to be used to switch workspaces?  I know how to map the function keys, but not sure what to map them to.18:24
Kangaroooctrl+f1/f218:27
rcscompKangarooo: are you saying I map f1 to point to ctrl+f1?18:27
Kangaroooit works for me on clean install18:27
rcscompKangarooo: ah, but I don't want to have to push ctrl.18:28
Kangarooommm ok that maybe in keyboard shortcuts can be changed18:28
rcscompKangarooo: I looked at the keyboard shortcuts, but there is not anything setup there.  The default mappings are setup "deeper" in the settings.  The problem is, I don't know what to map the keys to.18:29
Kangarooohmm but in keyboard shortcuts i dont even see ctrl+f1/f2 .. ok that i dont know18:29
rcscompIs there a command that I could type to switch workspaces?18:29
rcscompif so, then I can do the mappings.18:29
Kangaroooi think yes couse all works with commands but i dont know witch are in this situation correct ones18:30
rcscompKangarooo: thanks for your help, I am going to see if #xfce might be able to shed some light on this18:36
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rcscompKangarooo: FYI, the ctrl+f1/f2, etc. keybindings are in settings -> window manager -> keyboard.  I modified them to just be F1, F2, etc. and it works.18:51
Kangaroooaaaaah cool. but thats bad that in 2 places keyboard shortcuts can be modified. previusly i was looking in settings->keyboard18:52
slow-motionbye19:03
revmnsquestion: I have downloaded xubuntu iso twice and tried it on 2 diff systems. I continue to get corrupt package errors - any ideas20:29
Myrttihave you checked the md5sum after the download and after burning?20:29
revmnseverything chks out fine20:29
Myrttitorrents are the best method of downloading, bittorrent has error detection and correction built in20:29
revmnsi downloaded via xubuntu.com20:30
charlie-tcaWhat version?20:33
underHi21:41
underIs there a search box applet for xfce like spotlight in mac or desk-bar in gnome?21:41
charlie-tcaThere is an app called catfish in Applications -> Accessories. I don't know spotlight, myself.21:41
underOk, i asking for a applet wich can be integrated on the pannel21:47
TheSheepyou can use any gnome panel applet, with the xfce4-xfapplet-plugin21:49
TheSheepI think that tracker also has a search app that sitx in the systray21:50
TheSheepsits*21:50
underYES21:51
underops21:51
underHi22:31
underXubuntu can't see my usb drive22:31
underCan anyone help me?22:44

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