[01:33] <Chaiwalla> hey
[01:33] <Chaiwalla> I got an OLD laptop.  500mhz, 64mb ram, Pentium 3
[01:33] <Chaiwalla> what distro will make it into a fast web browser
[01:34] <Chaiwalla> somebody installed Windows XP on it and its sloooooooooooow
[01:41] <knome> Chaiwalla, with 64MB RAM i doubt any distro will make it fast
[01:42] <knome> Chaiwalla, i mean, no distro will make it fast :P
[01:52] <EndlessNameless> heh.. with 64 megs of ram id go for a nongraphical distro with lynx to browse. and even then expect it to lag at times
[01:54] <Chaiwalla> what about crunchbang linux?
[01:54] <Chaiwalla> or AntiX?
[02:21] <EndlessNameless> Chaiwalla, i wouldnt know, i havent tried them. experiment and see what you like best
[02:25] <genii> Chaiwalla: delilinux runs X on an old 486-66 I have
[02:53] <pdg1> hey... I've been trying to find an app that downloads RSS feeds like Miro but is less hungry on resources
[03:34] <Whopper> Does Xubuntu provide the xchat-gnome package?
[04:01] <Presario2500> why does XChat keep loading on startup?
[05:48] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys ....how can i add a keyboard  layout in xubuntu 8.04 ?
[05:49] <cobra-the-joker> !java
[08:59] <mikubuntu> what could be the trouble that i can't seem to play .wmv files anymore?
[09:57] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ...i have a little problem here in Xubuntu 8.04
[09:59] <cobra-the-joker> when i mount any vfat filesystem ..... all the arabic folder's names are like ?????? ?? ....any one knows how to solve that ?
[10:20] <cobra-the-joker> any body here to answer :(
[10:21] <TheSheep> cobra-the-joker: you need to check what encoding your vfat uses and pass it with the mount options
[10:21] <Kangarooo> hello one of my friends acidenly removed xubuntu default menu. how to get i t bakc?
[10:21] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: you mean removed from panel?
[10:21] <Kangarooo> in add aplications to panel theres only xfce menu but theres no xubuntu default menu
[10:21] <Kangarooo> yes removed from panel
[10:22] <Kangarooo> i tryd google searching and cant find right answer
[10:22] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: right-click on the panel, select 'add new items', select 'xfce menu' from the list (it's at the bottom)
[10:23] <Kangarooo> but thats not the corect one.
[10:23] <TheSheep> what's wrong with it?
[10:24] <Kangarooo> thats xfce menu but not xubuntu default menu
[10:24] <TheSheep> it's the same
[10:24] <TheSheep> you can right-click on it and change the text and icon
[10:27] <cobra-the-joker> TheSheep , its UTF-8 , how can i pass it to fstab ?
[10:29] <TheSheep> I hate those ask-and-run users
[10:33] <Kangarooo> im still here. i made another thing working. numlockx
[10:34] <Kangarooo> ill post wishlist that numlockx on laptops is off but on pcs auto on
[10:35] <TheSheep> !bugs | Kangarooo
[10:35] <mr_pouit> Kangarooo: use /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu as menu file
[10:37] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: ok i put that but it looks like its the same default xfce menu
[10:38] <Kangarooo> couse choosing that didnt change anything
[10:38] <mr_pouit> /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu is the xfce one, and /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu is the xubuntu one ^^
[10:40] <Kangarooo> do u know some picbin? ill upload picture of screenshot that that xubuntu .menu is selected
[10:40] <cobra-the-joker> TheSheep , it worked after adding utf8 in the options tab ....ty
[10:41] <mr_pouit> Kangarooo: If you use xfce4-screenshooter, there's an option to upload to one directly
[10:41] <mr_pouit> (iirc)
[10:42] <Kangarooo> ou cool. thats maybe from my wishlist :)
[10:47] <Kangarooo> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/95862d9b9d1149ac88f7de97c92fdfc8.php
[10:47] <Kangarooo> it took time couse i was registering and tryd to translate french couse english page didint open
[10:47] <mr_pouit> yeah, it's the default xubuntu menu
[10:48] <mr_pouit> ah, you mean the menu icon/label?
[10:48] <Kangarooo> ah now i understand. i just tryd that xfce and that changes menu icons and look.
[10:49] <Kangarooo> then only icon was last thing confusing me
[10:49] <Kangarooo> menu was showing like this when added xfce menu. so thouse are default settings anyway in xubuntu 9.10
[10:49] <mr_pouit> yep, for the icon, put /usr/share/pixmaps/xubuntu-logo.png
[10:50] <mr_pouit> and for the label, translate "Applications" in your system locale :)
[10:52] <Kangarooo> nice. thx. now i learned a little more. tomorow or maybe if ill have time ill make video tutorials for installing and putting most commonly used programms
[10:53] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit: yeah i gave my friend to write it in russian. as you can see all was in russian. i installed xubuntu for him 2 days ago
[10:53] <Kangarooo> ok thx bye for now. im going to my computer now. later ill come back here
[12:37] <Kangarooo> whats the name of programm witch asks for restart when updates are made? is it called restard?
[12:40] <Kangarooo> and whats the name of programm witch on shutdown asks for password?
[12:40] <Kangarooo> i mean restartd?
[12:40] <cobra-the-joker_> Hey guys ...can i change the colour of the GTK theme ?
[12:40] <eXpl0i7> cobra-the-joker: yes
[12:41] <eXpl0i7> you must edit gtkrc file
[12:41] <cobra-the-joker_> eXpl0i7 , tell me how please
[12:41] <eXpl0i7> in theme folder
[12:41] <eXpl0i7> go to theme folder
[12:41] <cobra-the-joker_> eXpl0i7 , where is that
[12:42] <eXpl0i7> /usr/share/themes
[12:43] <cobra-the-joker_> eXpl0i7 , and then ?
[12:43] <eXpl0i7> cobra-the-joker: go to http://xfce-look.org/
[12:43] <eXpl0i7> and download some themes
[12:43] <eXpl0i7> :)
[12:44] <cobra-the-joker_> eXpl0i7 , i just wanted to change the colour ...cant i ?
[12:44] <eXpl0i7> yes
[12:46] <cobra-the-joker_> aha , ok ...i think i got it
[12:46] <eXpl0i7> ex: /usr/share/stemes/Crux/gtk-2.0/
[12:46] <eXpl0i7> and fing
[12:46] <eXpl0i7> gtkrc file
[12:47] <eXpl0i7> you must be root to edit file
[12:47] <eXpl0i7> ex: sudo mousepad /usr/share/stemes/Crux/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[12:47] <cobra-the-joker_> aha
[12:50] <eXpl0i7> cobra-the-joker: go to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GTK%2B_By_Example/Theming
[12:50] <eXpl0i7> :)
[12:51] <cobra-the-joker_> eXpl0i7 , ok
[13:03] <Kangarooo> whats the name of programm witch asks for restart when updates are made? is it called restartd?
[13:04] <Kangarooo> and whats the name of programm witch on shutdown asks for password?
[13:04] <slow-motion> hi
[13:07] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: xfce4-session-logout
[13:07] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: actually it's not exactly that, but you can run it with that command
[13:08] <Kangarooo> so heres is one bug report. bug witch was bug on 5 computers. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/restartd/+bug/530161 is then report for wrong programm then?
[13:08] <Kangarooo> one in #ubuntu says (03:07:01 PM) theadmin: Kangarooo: First one is just update-manager
[13:08] <Kangarooo> (03:07:17 PM) theadmin: Kangarooo: Second one is, uhm, gksu. It as well asks for all other passwords
[13:09] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: ah, I thought you meant the one that starts when you click on the logout/shutdown icon/option in menu
[13:10] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: I guess that's a bug for the update-manager
[13:10] <Kangarooo> no no. the one witch after updates makes blue round arrow. and clicking it usually computer restarts.
[13:10] <TheSheep> that's update-manager
[13:11] <Kangarooo> ah. i was searching ubuntu restart and found restartd so i put bug report for wrong programm then. ok ill add the update-manager
[13:12] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: I changed it to update-manager in that bug, if you don't mind
[13:12] <Kangarooo> aah. i also added  :D
[13:33] <Kangarooo> heres another bug witch afects sessions and startup . https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/530160 whats name of this process?
[13:41] <TheSheep> I think it's ok to leave it as xfce4-session
[13:48] <Kangarooo> TheSheep: in that first bug. how did u changed to update-manager (Ubuntu) ? i added update-manager without ubuntu. how to add programms to be affected in ubuntu?
[13:50] <mr_pouit> that's not really a bug, it's the file choose that uses gtk (which uses gio, and thus is able to see windows partitions)
[13:50] <Kangarooo> i wanted to add gksu (ubuntu) but dont know how to find gksu in ubuntu. i found only gksu and added that. but maybe then that doesnt change anything since i got messege that gksu is using other bugreporting
[13:50] <mr_pouit> while thunar and the rest of the desktop still uses thunar-vfs, that can only see partitions on removable drivers
[13:50] <mr_pouit> *drives
[13:52] <Kangarooo> but that is a bug couse from thunar i cant acces windows on clean instalation but from seesions adding startup and browsing i can add and see windows partition
[13:52] <Kangarooo> also strange that gigolo is on clean install but i cant connect
[13:53] <Kangarooo> using gigolo to windows partition
[13:53] <Kangarooo> now ill write about that a bug report :)
[13:54] <mr_pouit> not needed, that's a known issue
[13:54] <mr_pouit> it'll be fixed in xfce 4.8 (with thunar ported to gio as well)
[13:58] <Kangarooo> when will that come out?
[13:58] <mr_pouit> scheduled for june 2010
[13:59] <Kangarooo> wouldnt be easyr to remove gigolo and put just ntfs-config intead? what gigolo has what ntfs config doesnt? ntfs config already now works
[14:00] <mr_pouit> network support
[14:00] <Kangarooo> like network neighborhood i can see?
[14:01] <Kangarooo> hmm i would like to get then gigolo work now and look at that. how then to get gigolo now work? when it works and i connect to windows partition does the partition all the time shows in thunar? automaticaly? and what about networks? automatically shown in thunar?
[14:04] <Kangarooo> but in gigolo to connect to networks i need to put them manually in bookmarks?
[14:05] <Kangarooo> mr_pouit:  ?
[14:07] <mr_pouit> no, they won't show in thunar I think
[14:09] <mr_pouit> (http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6)
[14:58] <Psilocybin_Elf> Quick question guys: does Xubuntu 9.10 include PulseAudio or ALSA?
[14:59] <Psilocybin_Elf> I'm gonna install it on my brother's laptop, but heard about Pulse's problems
[15:00] <ablomen> Psilocybin_Elf, you can remove everything pulse, not sure if its in there by default too btw
[15:01] <mr_pouit> iirc, there's no pulseaudio by default in xubuntu 9.10
[15:01] <Psilocybin_Elf> Ok, thanx :-)
[15:01] <Psilocybin_Elf> Is it still using ALSA by default then?
[15:01] <TheSheep> yes
[15:02] <Psilocybin_Elf> Ok cool :-)
[15:02] <Psilocybin_Elf> Cheers guys
[15:04]  * genii sips and thinks about mushroom fairies
[15:04]  * Psilocybin_Elf winks. ;-)
[15:15] <Kangarooo> ok i have interesting question. how to make xubuntu more faster? i could remove some starting aplications like print queue applet and xfce power manager.  but that will only make startup faster but will it also make started xubuntu use less resources? what else i could remove? maybe Xfce volume Daemon?
[15:18] <TheSheep> if you don't print, you can remove cups daemon
[15:18] <ghoztly> I found the volume control applet (xfce4-mixer or something like that) on the panel to always appear high whenever I do a "top" operation.  Thus I removed it from the panel.
[15:19] <TheSheep> well, if you have little memory, then removing applications will make things faster -- as they will free some memory. But if you have 0.5GB or more, you won't notice a difference
[15:19] <mr_pouit> you can also uncheck gnome compatibility in the last tab of settings > session and startup dialog
[15:19] <TheSheep> ghoztly: powertop is pretty good for checking what is using lots of resources
[15:19] <TheSheep> Kangarooo: using a lighter web browser, like chromium, makes it seem a lot faster too
[15:21] <ghoztly> There is a chipcardd4 process that is forever consuming 1% or more of CPU.  I don't HAVE a credit/bank card reader.  I think it appeared when I installed Gnu-Cash.
[15:22] <ghoztly> Opera is MUCH faster than Firefox/Seamonkey.  Up to a point, because after extended use Opera becomes a hog!
[15:23] <Sysi-> midori <3
[15:23] <Kangarooo> i think this could be worth a new wiki. or even writing a new programm witch sends reports of more consuming programms
[15:24] <Kangarooo> im not jet familiar how to corectly start a new ubuntu wiki page so maybe someone has idea where hould it be made. in witch subsection of what? xubuntu page or overall performance wiki page?
[15:24] <ghoztly> I googled chipcardd4 once, and for more than one release of Ubuntu it is a bug on Launchpad. Convoluted process to disable, thus it is still on my system.
[15:26] <ghoztly> I find that the file access dialogs of Xubuntu appears to be very slow - they appear, then seem to ponder for quite a few seconds before displaying the folder contents.  Is there a way of speeding that up?
[17:11] <Kangarooo> i want to upload var/log/apt/term.log to bug report but launchpad says error canot upload empty file. i tryd sudo mousepad var/log/apt/term.log and it opened and its not empty. so i tryd to copy to home dir to upload from there but got error Failed to copy "/var/log/apt/term.log" to "/home/kng/term.log". Failed to open "/var/log/apt/term.log" for reading (Permission denied). Do you want to skip it?
[17:13] <Kangarooo> how to copy these root only files?
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Oh
[17:21] <charlie-tca> Copy them using sudo cp to your /home/Desktop, then sudo chown to you as the the owner. Then you can attach it
[17:21] <charlie-tca> Thanks for doing that. Hopefully, it will get this thing fixed, too.
[17:23] <charlie-tca> I did not know  that was a root only file. I need to add that to my responses when I ask for the file.
[17:33] <Kangarooo> no just maybe system could be made different. i dont know maybe for security reasons reading is also not awailable. but is that a security reason? thats only a log file. also i think any file should be able to read/upload but only sudo writes.
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I don't know why the file is root owned. That is how Ubuntu made it. We just use it as they designed it.
[17:49] <Kangarooo> where can i find wiki editing help? i need to comment some lines but i cant find any wiki ubuntu manual
[17:50] <deathcannon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Formatting
[17:50] <deathcannon> try that
[18:24] <rcscomp> Can anyone tell me how I can setup my F1-F4 keys to be used to switch workspaces?  I know how to map the function keys, but not sure what to map them to.
[18:27] <Kangarooo> ctrl+f1/f2
[18:27] <rcscomp> Kangarooo: are you saying I map f1 to point to ctrl+f1?
[18:27] <Kangarooo> it works for me on clean install
[18:28] <rcscomp> Kangarooo: ah, but I don't want to have to push ctrl.
[18:28] <Kangarooo> mmm ok that maybe in keyboard shortcuts can be changed
[18:29] <rcscomp> Kangarooo: I looked at the keyboard shortcuts, but there is not anything setup there.  The default mappings are setup "deeper" in the settings.  The problem is, I don't know what to map the keys to.
[18:29] <Kangarooo> hmm but in keyboard shortcuts i dont even see ctrl+f1/f2 .. ok that i dont know
[18:29] <rcscomp> Is there a command that I could type to switch workspaces?
[18:29] <rcscomp> if so, then I can do the mappings.
[18:30] <Kangarooo> i think yes couse all works with commands but i dont know witch are in this situation correct ones
[18:36] <rcscomp> Kangarooo: thanks for your help, I am going to see if #xfce might be able to shed some light on this
[18:51] <rcscomp> Kangarooo: FYI, the ctrl+f1/f2, etc. keybindings are in settings -> window manager -> keyboard.  I modified them to just be F1, F2, etc. and it works.
[18:52] <Kangarooo> aaaaah cool. but thats bad that in 2 places keyboard shortcuts can be modified. previusly i was looking in settings->keyboard
[19:03] <slow-motion> bye
[20:29] <revmns> question: I have downloaded xubuntu iso twice and tried it on 2 diff systems. I continue to get corrupt package errors - any ideas
[20:29] <Myrtti> have you checked the md5sum after the download and after burning?
[20:29] <revmns> everything chks out fine
[20:29] <Myrtti> torrents are the best method of downloading, bittorrent has error detection and correction built in
[20:30] <revmns> i downloaded via xubuntu.com
[20:33] <charlie-tca> What version?
[21:41] <under> Hi
[21:41] <under> Is there a search box applet for xfce like spotlight in mac or desk-bar in gnome?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> There is an app called catfish in Applications -> Accessories. I don't know spotlight, myself.
[21:47] <under> Ok, i asking for a applet wich can be integrated on the pannel
[21:49] <TheSheep> you can use any gnome panel applet, with the xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[21:50] <TheSheep> I think that tracker also has a search app that sitx in the systray
[21:50] <TheSheep> sits*
[21:51] <under> YES
[21:51] <under> ops
[22:31] <under> Hi
[22:31] <under> Xubuntu can't see my usb drive
[22:44] <under> Can anyone help me?