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Typos_Kingheard of midori?00:00
ultraputzyup :-)00:00
ultraputztestran that for a while00:00
ultraputznice rendering... i like my draggable bookmarks. :-)00:00
Typos_Kingnot sure on the js part, but uses webkit00:00
Typos_Kingdraggable bookmarks...hehhe, I can do that on any browser pretty much00:01
Typos_Kingthere's nothing exotic about that00:01
ultraputzkind of curious to hear a curmudgeonly old kde guerilla school me on the whole webkit relationship to khtml, and what that has to do with where konq vs. safari is at...00:01
ultraputzi mean, being able to drag, organize my toolbar menus, etc.00:02
ultraputza sort of "web desktop" -ish feature that is separate from the rest of the desktop.00:02
Typos_Kingmeh, I can all that in opera00:02
ultraputzi'm gonna give o10 a try on your suggestion00:03
Typos_Kingdetach tabs, retach, swap tabs between windows, move/drag buttons anywhere, add/remove sidepanels00:03
ultraputzhave you ever used omniweb on the mac ?00:03
Typos_Kingno macOSX here :|00:03
ultraputz_that_ is what a browser is supposed to be.00:03
NoeveTypos_King, it's clashing with the default network manager. I get "Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken." Could you give me a hand ?00:04
ultraputzit's still on the desk at work, but this is a pure penguin house now.00:04
Typos_KingNoeve:    are you running 'nm-panel'?00:04
NoeveNope. Let me try that.00:04
NoeveNot installed. What's the package name ?00:05
Typos_Kingultraputz:   not sure on omniweb, but one thing that's different in opera, is that all tabs in the same window use the window as the workspace, so you can minimize/restore/move/drag/resize all within the confiines of the window they're00:05
Typos_KingNoeve:     network-manager-gnome00:06
NoeveI've installed that, yes. nm-panel returns "command not found" though.00:06
ultraputzomniweb had tabs before anyone else -- and it's tabs are either tabs, or previews, depending on a draggable setting, and it's in a tray that is only open when the browser is focused, etc.00:06
Typos_KingNoeve   hehhe, you installed that but 'command not found'? hehe00:06
ultraputzthat can be drag-reordered, popped out to windows, and back into tabs, etc.00:06
Typos_KingNoeve:   ack... is 'nm-applet'   my bad :{00:07
NoeveTypos_King, nm-applet returns the error I gave you - could not acquire the service.00:07
NoeveIf I understand correctly, KDE's default network manager is hogging the service, but I'm not sure how to fix that.00:07
ultraputzthat should depend on which environment you bring up...00:08
Typos_Kingultraputz:   yep, same in opera, you can move them between windows or detach/retach them, when you hover a tab, you also have a choice of 'quick preview' too on a thumbnail, though I have that off00:08
Noeveultraputz, if that was directed at me, this is a fresh install of Kubuntu.00:09
ultraputzthis stuff was introduced in omniweb around 2000 -- it's since not quite as far ahead or as impressive in comparison -- but it's taken browsers generally about 7 years to catch up to it.00:09
ultraputzNoeve -- did you install gnome after the fact?00:09
raj GUYS i HAVE finally completed my AUDIO FIX post on the forums. if any of you are having problems with the sound. follow the steps in this link: you can thank me later :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8789064   3 STEPS are provided try them and see if any works for you:)00:09
Typos_KingNoeve.... try killing    knetworkmanager  ->  sudo killall `pidof knetworkmanager`; and retry00:09
ultraputzTypos_King: ( has pictures: http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/ )00:10
Noeveultraputz, no, I don't want Gnome, or I would have installed Ubuntu :P I just want the Gnome network manager because the default one doesn't work, and a few forum entries suggest Gnome's is better.00:10
ultraputzare you on a laptop using wireless?00:10
NoeveYes.00:10
ultraputzusing kernal .19 ?00:10
NoeveI downloaded Kubuntu an hour ago. I didn't check the kernel. :P00:11
BluesKaj-LaptopNoeve, have you considered wicd ?00:11
ultraputzthere's a bug...00:11
NoeveTypos_King, no processes found.00:11
NoeveBluesKaj-Laptop, I came across it as a possible backend in the settings somewhere. You recommend I try that ?00:11
ultraputzit's hit my laptop,  and searching on it -- others too...00:11
ultraputzhave to boot using kernal .1400:11
ultraputzsomething in .19 borks wifi for some people.00:11
ultraputzcan't remember the specifics00:11
Typos_Kingheh00:12
Typos_KingNoeve    latest I think is 2.6.34 anyhow :P00:12
Noeveultraputz, aaaaah, reasons why I dropped Linux :P00:12
ultraputzwhat's the change?00:12
Typos_KingNoeve:  it doesn't show an icon on the tray?00:12
NoeveTypos_King, there's an icon, the default KDE one, I think it's called KNetworkManager.00:12
BluesKaj-LaptopNoeve, depends on your wifi card , but I'm on karmic atm, network manager only  worked for 24 hrs on this laptop so I switched00:13
ultraputzNoeve: i want to run opensolaris, but the project looks to be in trouble.00:13
rajhey guys what do you use instead of gedit in kubuntu?00:13
Typos_KingNoeve:   can you right-click it and close it?00:13
NoeveBut it just doesn't connect correctly. It doesn't get past "Activating"00:13
ultraputzwhat are you rocking?00:13
NoeveBluesKaj-Laptop, bah :(00:13
BluesKaj-Laptop!info wicd  | Noeve00:13
ubottuNoeve: wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2464 kB00:13
Typos_Kingraj:    Geany is pretty good, and small enough, for quickies00:13
NoeveTypos_King, no, I can't just close it with a right-click :P00:13
ultraputzraj: second Typos_King on that. :-)00:14
Typos_Kingraj:    depends what you need the editor for of course, if it's for programming, there are others :)00:14
rajtypos_king i mean by default i cant remember what kubuntu uses instead of gedit?00:14
ultraputzKate00:14
rajthx00:14
Typos_Kingraj:  kate00:14
Typos_Kingbut geany has a lighter overhead00:14
NoeveCurrently "Configuring interface" on mouseover, and "Activating" on click, but it gets no further.00:14
raji am editing a post for kubuntu / xubuntu and ubuntu .. so every1 can use it :)00:14
* ultraputz still uses emacs.00:14
ultraputznoeve -- are you able to bring up the wireless interface through shell ?00:15
Typos_KingNoeve:     how about ... open Konsole... and type ->sudo killall `pidof knetworkmanager`00:15
ultraputziwconfig ?00:15
NoeveBluesKaj-Laptop, switched to wicd backend, no avail. Same problem.00:15
ultraputzNoeve: try to bring it up manually?00:15
ultraputzsee if something lower down is pissing it off?00:16
Noeveultraputz, it's found the adaptor on wlan000:16
ultraputzcan you bring up a connection?00:16
NoeveI'm not sure how.00:16
Typos_Kinghehe00:16
ultraputzwhat os ?00:16
NoeveKoala.00:16
ultraputzdebian / gnu --00:16
ultraputzok00:17
Typos_Kingkoala meaning,  9.100:17
ultraputztry iwconfig00:17
NoeveYep.00:17
Typos_Kinghehe, karmic koala :P00:17
NoeveAwesome name :P00:17
ultraputzand then do something like: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up00:17
ultraputzyou might wanna double check the syntax with "man ifconfig" first :-)00:17
Typos_Kingtis correct00:17
Typos_Kingor   sudo ip link set wlan0 up;00:17
ultraputzyou and your fancy ip.00:17
ultraputzdamn kids, get off my lawn.00:18
NoeveIt's up, but it's almost like the password is incorrect.00:18
ultraputzok, now do: dmesg | tail -100 | less00:18
ultraputzand see why :-)00:18
ultraputz('q' to drop out of less.)00:18
Typos_KingNoeve   I've heard of issues with knetworkmanager before.... usually in 9.1..... which nm-applet doesn't have, so.... I use nm-applet :)00:18
NoeveTypos_King, that's what I've been asking about ! :P00:19
Typos_KingNoeve.... sooooo nm-applet running?00:19
NoeveI want to get nm-applet but it won't let me run it because the service is taken by the default network thing.00:19
* ultraputz , through brute force and force of will... subdued his problem... by using an older kernal.00:19
Typos_King...00:19
ultraputzok, so to figure out where it's hiding00:19
Typos_KingNoeve......  can you install something... I guess you can... try installing -> sudo apt-get install qps00:20
ultraputzprobably start with settings > advanced > autostarted-ish whatever00:20
Typos_KingNoeve:     qps is a visual process manager, will shows if knetworkmanager is running and you can kill it fromt here, also will show if nm-applet is too00:20
ultraputzand Typos_King and I will try to confuse you as much as possible by following two disparate lines of analysis ... :-)00:20
Typos_Kingheheh00:21
NoeveI'll head downstairs and install qps then. ultraputz, I'd already checked there, there's nothing suspicious :P00:21
ultraputzTypos_King: it may be set to auto-restart...00:21
ultraputzwhich could make this fun00:21
NoeveThere's only a script file running gtk200:21
Typos_Kingultraputz:   it's, if you boot to kde wm, yes,  doesn't mean you can't kill it00:21
ultraputzit doesn't bounce back?00:21
Typos_Kingnope00:21
Typos_Kingis not a daemon00:22
ultraputzaha. excellent.00:22
ultraputzso does anyone here know what the plus and minus toggle icon that appears above icons in widget folder view are about?00:22
Poyntzey. is there a way to backup annotations stored for okular in PDF files?00:22
keonhola como estan?00:23
ultraputzdo the anotations stay if you duplicate the file ?00:23
Typos_KingPoyntz:   ...dunno.... I'd think not, I'd think okular...... has them stashed for its own use00:23
BluesKaj-LaptopNoeve, try this in the cli , sudo dhclient wlan0 ...pastebin the output if it's more than 2 lines00:23
PoyntzTypos_King: gah. see the thing is I wanna dual boot with win7 but I fun wanna risk losin the annotations in kde wen I partition the drives. there's months o stuff in there00:25
ultraputzPoyntz: start by searching out where it keeps that00:25
ultraputzif its' metadata, it's a file or a database file...00:25
Poyntzultraputz: I'm a guy that can't even get openvpn workin :/00:26
ultraputzPoyntz: http://okular.kde.org/faq.php#HowcanIannotateadocumentandsendittoafriendcollegueetc00:26
Poyntzultraputz: thanks man. heaps appreciated!00:27
NoeveTypos_King, qps found knetworkmanager, I killed it, ran nm-applet, and am connected to the internet via wireless.00:27
NoeveWould you mind giving me a hand in making this the default network manager ?00:28
Typos_King... ahe.... well.....00:28
BluesKaj-LaptopNoeve, I wish you luck , hope mn works for you tomorrow00:29
NoeveBluesKaj-Laptop, thanks :P00:29
BluesKaj-Laptop:)00:29
BluesKaj-Laptopor is it nm00:30
ultraputzNoeve: http://forums.opensuse.org/network-internet/wireless/427611-dummy-guide-replacing-knetworkmanager.html00:30
Noeveultraputz, thanks !00:30
Typos_Kingheh nm :)00:31
Poyntzultraputz: just tried on a file but it didn't save the annotations. I exported as "document archive" for okular but yaa when I opened the new .okular file it just contained the original PDF00:31
Typos_KingNoeve:      I think.... kde uses.... you'd need to check in systemsettings...... I think it might be under Advanced > service manager00:31
Typos_KingNoeve:    and I think kde wm uses  ~/.kde/Autostart    folder for any apps to load at startup00:32
ultraputzPoyntz: hrm. did you try looking at the document itself in kate or something to see if you recognized annotations in it?00:32
ultraputzmaybe you have to set something to "include annotations" ?00:32
Typos_KingPoyntz   are you trying to 'keep' the annotations 'in the pdf' file or just to have them available from okular only?00:34
Poyntzthe latter00:34
Typos_KingPoyntz:    I assume you're not saving okular configurations.....   I think kde apps use 2 sections to keep configurations     ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps00:36
Noeveultraputz, that guide is a little... incomplete, but also ineffective. :P00:36
Typos_KingPoyntz:      in ~/.kde/share/config you'd find an rc file .....like okularrc   or so, in ~/.kde/share/apps they usually use a folder, and there's where the 'user's settings are00:37
NoeveTrying another.00:37
Poyntzultraputz: i think it mighta saved the most recent annotations but the ones i made the other day dont seem t b there. I checked thr original file as well tho n try dont seem to be in that either.. Strange00:37
PoyntzNonetheless i think annotations are effectively saving in the .okular file so thanks!00:37
Typos_Kinghehe00:38
Poyntz*try = they00:38
ultraputzPoyntz: no idea ... it may be broken..00:38
Typos_KingPoyntz:    there's an editor for pdf's you know, tis in the repositories, pdfedit00:39
Poyntzyaa I don't need to edit tho :p. just annotate. ty tho00:40
Poyntzalso dragon player doesn't work n power management shuts my laptop off afta 30seconds without AC connected00:41
Poyntzpower management also won't let me change brightness levels like it claims (but I can do that wit the keys so it isn't a significant issue)00:42
Poyntzthe fact that it shuts off my comp afta 30secs on battery is annoying tho00:42
Poyntzsorry I mean 'hibernates my comp', not 'shuts it down'00:43
Typos_KingPoyntz:    dunn on dragon player.... didn't work for me, but I think is due to libraries, it seem to need some for playback, I use Xine-ui, after I installed xine-ui, dragonplayer now plays hehe00:44
ultraputzman. one major strike against KDE is -- it really makes the sound subsystem mad.00:44
Typos_Kingthough I prefer xine-ui, much less overhead and comes with a heap of codecs00:44
ultraputzthis was an ubuntu installation with kde added later...00:44
Typos_Kingmad?00:45
ultraputz"this device is offline"00:45
ultraputztwo instances of vlc cannot play at the same time. or sometimes they can.00:45
PoyntzTypos_King: I tried both backends with it to no avail :/. When I use one of them it still plays the audio but it shows no vid00:45
ultraputzflash video play randomly cannot play audio. then it can.00:45
Typos_KingPoyntz      a dvd?   you mean, you installed xine-ui?00:46
ultraputzthat sentence did not parse well: flash videos play, but the audio randomly might, or might not.00:46
Poyntzultraputz: and yes. I originally had ubuntu n installed kubuntu-desktop on top o it. thing is I've don't a fair few updates since doing it n I'd b surprised if the majority of my OS isn't kde n not gnome now00:46
ultraputzit behaves really well after it's restarted, but after about 2-3 hours, something flips out.00:46
ultraputzit updates all installed packages, runs their installation scripts...00:47
Typos_Kingultraputz:   ... not sure if it's kde.... may just be a libflashplayer.so  plugin issue, I can play .flv files in xine-ui just fine, and also in opera embedded00:47
ultraputzit's not whether or not it plays...00:47
ultraputznotifications about the sound card becoming unavailable...00:47
ultraputzi could go into the  system audio settings, re-assert the card, and things would be fine.00:48
PoyntzTypos_King: I installed everything that seemed relevant relating to xine in kpackagekit including the package you mentioned. as for DVDs , it's the rare thing that dragonplayer actually does play lol00:48
ultraputzand by card, i mean the boring audio hardware in a 7 year old well supported compaq laptop :-)00:48
Typos_Kingheheh00:48
ultraputzwhich, additionally, i should add -- works flawlessly under gnome and xfce.00:48
Typos_KingPoyntz:    so... what is not playing?00:48
PerfGot a ?00:49
PoyntzTypos_King: any movie media files, anything I click on won't play. Only audio but no vid00:49
PoyntzDVDs only work when dragon player opens them up on launch00:50
PerfHow do do file association for downloaded file...like pdf"s or word docs00:50
PoyntzI can't open dragon player n attempt to direct it to the DVD bc it won't play it00:50
Typos_KingPoyntz:   check for plugins... under ....  /usr/lib/xine/plugins00:51
PoyntzPerf: right click the file, select 'open with' and choose the appropriate file from the list00:52
Poyntz*appropriate program from the list00:53
Typos_KingPerf:    usually... .depends on the browser, each have their own options for that, but usually is better, for pdf and docs, just dl :)00:53
Typos_KingPoyntz:   I thought you said dragonplayer played dvd hehe00:53
PoyntzTypos_King: two folders- 1.25 n 1.2600:54
PoyntzTypos_King: in that directory that is00:54
NoeveHow do I view daemons so I can disable one on boot ?00:54
Typos_KingPoyntz:   2 folders.... hehe... why..2?   seems to have been a double-install.... any .so files in them?00:54
Perfbeen running ubuntu for a year and always had problems getting to the programs directory for file association00:55
Perfwhere do you find the programs directory00:55
PoyntzTypos_King: it does lol. It plays as the default player for DVDs00:55
Typos_KingNoeve:    systemsettings > advanced > services;   usually00:55
Perfyes i am a windows user....boooo00:55
NoeveTypos_King, it's not appearing there. I'll ask in #ubuntu.00:55
PoyntzPerf: System Settings -> Default Applications00:56
Perfthankyou very much all00:56
PoyntzTypos_King: yaaa. both are full of .so files00:57
Poyntzactually wrong00:57
Typos_KingPoyntz:    and .. you said that xine-ui doesn't play dvd? or doesn't play which media?00:57
Poyntz1.26 only has one .so ole00:57
Poyntz*file00:57
Typos_KingPoyntz:  and 1.25?00:58
PoyntzPerf: soz man. the apps directory will b /usr/bin00:59
Poyntzbut if ya wanna configure default apps use the program I said00:59
Poyntzelse go to the extension n select open with from the menu then choose a defaul program n check the box that says set as default01:00
Perfthat's it thankyou01:01
PoyntzTypos_King: dragon only plays DVDs but it doesn't play .avi .mp4a .mov .fv etc...01:04
Poyntzas in it won't play any media file type that isn't audio01:05
Poyntzexcept it will play the audio for any media file type01:05
Poyntzjust not the video01:05
Poyntzexcluding DVDs where it plays both audio n video :p01:05
Typos_Kingand xine-ui?01:05
genii!codecs01:06
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:06
Typos_Kingcan it play .flv or m4v?01:06
PoyntzTypos_King: also 1.25 is full of .so files that start with xineplug_01:06
Typos_KingPoyntz:   right, those ARE the codecs, or decompressors01:07
Typos_Kingso, that means it'll play in xine-ui01:07
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Typos_KingPoyntz:   as far as dragonplayer... you can try the urls genii just pasted, to get the codecs for it, system wide01:08
Typos_Kingas I said.... I usually just use xine-ui hehe, I have since.... way back, nicer skin and overhead01:08
PoyntzTypos_King: hmm it's hard t say where the issue comes from. VLC and mplayer (the only other video players I have) dot use the kde system backends01:10
Poyntzn vids play fine on mplayer (with a few freeze bugs but yaa- offtopic cause it ain't kde related)01:11
Typos_Kingand xine? ehehhe01:11
Typos_Kingdo they play?01:11
kubiandragon plays .flv01:11
Typos_KingPoyntz:   as far as dragonplayer... you can try the urls genii just pasted, to get the codecs for it, system wide01:11
Poyntzkubian: it might fo you, not for me ;)01:13
Typos_KingPoyntz:   what you have, as genii pointed out, is just missing codecs either system wide what dragonplayer can use, or specific for it, as you can see, those xineplug_...so...ared the codecs that xine uses, for me it plays a heapload of formats01:13
PoyntzTypos_King: just tried xine, it plays videos :)01:14
kubiandragon also plays MPEG file01:14
PoyntzTypos_King: sorry about bein slow to reply to ya messages. I'm on my iPhone IRC lol cause my proxy blocks me off from using IRC01:15
Poyntzn it's hard to type on the iPhone lol01:15
Typos_Kinghehe01:16
Poyntzalso it does push n pull communication. So it takes a while for me t see ya messages01:17
kubian4.4.1 on karmic looks great..thanks a lot guys for the efforts..01:19
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ubuntujk;01:44
kemgjust loaded this on Piii new user01:45
kemgwhere can i get rpn calculator app01:46
kemgbye01:48
geniirpn calculator?01:49
Ezros_Does anyone know what is happening when my computer screen turns blank from idling01:49
Ezros_and just prompts a flashing underscore.01:49
Ezros_It says that it suspends to ram01:53
Ezros_But Idk how to get it back from ram01:53
Ezros_lol01:53
v1ttuwhy does kpackagekit tell me i no longer have the priviledge to install software after upgrading to 4.4.1?03:01
geniiv1ttu: Perhaps you haven't rebooted yet to the new kernel03:10
v1ttui have03:12
v1ttui rebooted to try to see if it went away03:12
v1ttuit doesnt =/03:12
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davepjust tried to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10. failed because of some dependencies. im in the recovery menu atm03:52
davepwhat does the dpkg (repair broken packages) option actually run?03:52
davepi need to get a console first so i can get the wireless working03:53
davephmm. its not letting me uninstall nvidia glx packages (im not using nvidia anymore) because the install script attempts to overwrite libGL with old backed up versions03:59
v1ttujust do a fresh install04:03
v1ttuupgrading breaks the system about 30% of the time =/04:03
davepi hate linux error messages :( they dont make any sense04:13
davepunable to create './usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2' no such file or directory04:13
davepthat file is definitely there.04:13
davepremoving it...make no difference04:13
davepand why should a file not being there make it impossible to create a new file04:14
davepthis is BACKWARDS >:|04:14
KDeskHas someone installed KDE 4.4.1 from PPA, are the packages working fine?04:15
davepi removed the offending package04:16
davepand it launches straight into the upgrade again04:16
davepwtf.04:16
davepwhy cant it just do what i tell it to do?04:16
v1ttui wouldnt kdesk04:20
v1ttuit has nuked kpackagekit04:20
KDeskthanks for the info v1ttu!04:21
KDeskv1ttu: you did only see that issue?04:22
v1ttuso far yeah04:24
albertolempirahey guys when i'm starting kubuntu plasma takes too long to start up, anyone know what could be happening? thanks04:38
KDeskalbertolempira: myabe your plasma config files are broken. you can move them, or remove them.  rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*04:41
KDeskalbertolempira: then you have to restart palasma, or log out and login again04:42
albertolempiraKDesk ok, i'm gonna try that because is really annoying... thanks... brb04:45
KDeskalbertolempira: I hope it works04:45
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albertolempiraKDesk: ok, i did it, so now i'm rebooting to check its fine, thanks again, brb.04:48
KDeskalbertolempira: no need to reboot04:48
KDeskalbertolempira: only logout and re login again, or  kquitapp plasma-desktop04:48
KDeskalbertolempira: and start it by: plasma-desktop04:49
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alberto_KDesk: it worked! thank you!04:52
KDeskalberto_ :-)04:52
v1ttudoes anyone know how well wow works with wine on intel?04:56
genii!appdb | v1ttu04:59
ubottuv1ttu: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:59
v1ttuis the wine channel on freenode?04:59
v1ttunvm lol05:00
v1ttunvm thanks lol***05:00
davepsomehow i have an upgraded system thats working05:14
jayq330coould someone help i just installed kubuntu 64 and ati driver wont activate05:21
v1ttuwhat hardware do you have?05:22
jayq330780 g05:22
jayq330hd 4200 radeon05:22
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v1ttushould work05:23
v1ttuwhat version of kubuntu are you using?05:23
jayq330i downloaded an ati driver 10-205:23
v1ttuohhh05:23
v1ttudownloaded driver05:23
v1ttudo you know how to install it?05:23
jayq330no i downloaded it but i didnt install it05:23
jayq330i dont know how05:24
v1ttuhave you installed anything through jockey?05:24
jayq330im brand new to linux05:24
v1ttui see05:24
v1ttuok05:24
v1ttuhold on05:24
jayq330k05:24
geniijayq330: I recommend reading closely instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu05:24
jayq330ill read this and itll show me what to do right?05:25
jayq330no sound either05:25
v1ttujayq330 check your irc channels:P05:26
geniijayq330: If you want to install the ati driver you downloaded from their site, use the instructions on the page I gave, they are fairly comprehensive05:26
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Guest51544Hola06:16
v1ttuhola Guest51544 o/06:17
Guest51544que tal06:17
genii!es06:17
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.06:17
Guest51544Hola a todos06:18
Guest51544soy nuevo en este medio de Quassel,06:18
Guest51544en este chat06:18
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v1ttumuy bien ggarsa06:19
ggarsaSaludos a todos desde la ciudad de México06:19
ggarsaque tal v1ttu06:20
geniiEsta área está para el inglés exclusivamente. Viaje por favor al #ubuntu-es06:20
ggarsaHi genni06:21
geniiggarsa: Hello06:21
v1ttukerrata hiljaa ggarsa06:22
ggarsawhat  did you said v1ttu?06:22
ggarsawath means kerrata hijaa06:23
ggarsa?06:23
ggarsajejejejejeje06:23
v1ttukerrata hiljaa** :P06:23
geniiggarsa and v1ttu - Please stay to english in this channel, or instead travel to the channel which is correct for your language06:24
ggarsaWay genni06:25
ggarsagenni, ¿Do you need to practice your english?06:25
v1ttuno niin genii... :P06:25
v1ttuokkkkk06:25
v1ttui will obey master :306:26
geniiggarsa: This channel is not to practise using english, it is for help with Kubuntu, given in english06:26
ggarsaah06:27
ggarsaok06:27
ggarsaI am sorry06:27
ggarsathank you for your explanation06:27
ggarsait's ok06:27
* genii hands out mugs of coffee06:28
ggarsaok, see you06:29
CartoonCatthis is not fun: Radio Mobile Deluxe + Wine 1.1.39 = random X crash back to login. logs show nothing that would sugest whats going on06:34
CartoonCatany ideas about logging options to spot the issue06:35
v1ttuwhat the fudge is radio mobile deluxe?06:35
CartoonCatv1ttu: terrain and mapping software06:36
smokenblessany1 want to introduce me to the terminal cmd..... <------- very newb here, tx u06:36
CartoonCatrf link anylizer and propigation prediction, etc06:37
v1ttu3d?06:37
v1ttuwhat kinda command smoken?06:37
geniiCartoonCat: Sounds more like a WINE issue... did you ask in their channel yet?06:38
CartoonCatyea but doesnt use opengl, pure cpu cycles06:38
v1ttuit may be something else06:38
v1ttudid you upgrade xorg through xorg edgers anytime recently?06:38
CartoonCatgenii: im not having the issue on any of a dozen other boxes, only the single kubuntu box06:38
CartoonCatits deff something kubuntu related, just not sure if its in how wine was compile, xorg, etc (all are stock kubuntu repo)06:39
genii!cli | smokenbless - maybe check out the link here to get started06:39
ubottusmokenbless - maybe check out the link here to get started: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro06:39
smokenblessvlttu: hmm.. lets see.... the basic n user stuff with the root thing.......06:39
v1ttuyou havent updated xorg?06:40
CartoonCatim thinking ill manual compile in latest wine to test, but the same vers on others dont do it06:40
CartoonCatits the latest that the repos have06:40
geniiCartoonCat: Is nvidia card?06:40
CartoonCatati06:40
geniiHm06:40
smokenblessok i was already reading.... guess ill read some more06:40
smokenblesstx06:40
v1ttuati06:41
v1ttuthats probably the problem06:41
v1ttuwhat card is it?06:41
CartoonCatATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]06:41
v1ttuyup06:41
v1ttuthats the problem im guessing06:42
CartoonCatits not crashing any other apps06:42
v1ttuyou're using 9.10 right?06:42
CartoonCatya06:42
v1ttuthis radio thing06:42
v1ttuit relies totally on cpu for rendering?06:42
CartoonCatyes06:43
CartoonCatit does not use 3d api's at all06:43
v1ttuhmmm06:43
v1ttuwhat hardware do the other machines have?06:44
CartoonCatvaries from trident to intel to ati to nvidia06:44
v1ttuactual hardware?06:44
CartoonCatthere might even be a sis in there but i will deny that till i die06:44
CartoonCatid have to go crack them open to get exact hardware06:45
v1ttulolol fair enough06:45
v1ttuit may not be an ati problem then06:45
CartoonCatit could be, but i dont see how06:46
CartoonCatanything is possible with linux!!06:46
CartoonCat(for better or worse lol)06:46
v1ttumhm, i havent used anything like that under wine before so i dunno06:46
geniiCartoonCat: Have you tried running it yet with the wine debug on?06:46
CartoonCatwell its easy to obtain and use ;-)06:46
CartoonCatgenii: doh!  nope06:46
v1ttuthe radio thing?06:47
CartoonCatv1ttu: ya, its a bit more then rocket science (easy) but way easier then brain surgery06:48
v1ttuok 1) not my kinda thing, 2) im dumb. thanx anyway :P06:49
CartoonCatlol06:49
CartoonCatok how aobut even blind monkies can run it? jajaja06:49
CartoonCatbut, ill give winedbg a go and see what it says06:50
genii!info wine1.2-dbg06:50
ubottuwine1.2-dbg (source: wine1.2): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (debugging symbols). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.31-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 17804 kB, installed size 77028 kB06:51
CartoonCatyea done isntalled it and running the app06:51
CartoonCatthe main problem is, i never know when it will go, could take weeks06:51
CartoonCatwell, i can force it, but i think that is a bitness issue with wine so i dunno if it would be valid =\06:53
CartoonCat(using datasets over 4000 x 4000 cause it to lock and exit, but does NOT take out xorg with it)06:53
geniiCartoonCat: If you think it's an X issue you can always also login to console only from kdm, kill kdm from there, then startx manually maybe with -v or -vv or so (I can't recall what options startx/X takes offhand)06:53
geniiIt will at least probably give you some kind of crash info06:54
CartoonCatgenii: ah good idea, ill try that if winedbg doesnt give something06:54
geniiAnyhoo... bedtime for me it's almost 2AM here06:54
CartoonCatgenii: and im not sure if it IS a xorg issue, only that when it strikes it is ONLY with this app/wine and it just goes to a black screen then pops to the login06:55
CartoonCatty genii, ttl06:55
cvd?06:56
cvdhow to clear the recently used?06:58
cvdfrom the menu?06:58
hanswindows manager?06:59
cvdkbuntu default06:59
hansright click on kmenu > application manager07:01
cvdhow to clear the recently used?ger07:01
cvdon kickoff07:01
hansright click on kmenu > application manager07:01
cvdlike  i said no application manager appear07:01
r00t_how do i restart my audio system? I keep having a problem with my audio where my coputer will stop playing audio files unles i adjust the volume formthe keyboard,but this only fixes it for a min. restartingthe computer fixes the problems for a few hours so i figure if ir estart teh audio server? Deamon? im not sure what its called but i think i can just restart that to fix my problem07:01
cvdright click kickoff = menueditor,switch to clasic,application launcher settings07:03
hanson right click on the K you should ge ... yes07:03
cvdriht -click on thgee K = no application mana07:04
r00t_hans/cvd are you talking abuot my problem?07:04
hansdidn't even know you had one :)07:04
cvdriht -click on the K = no application manager07:04
r00t_how do i restart my audio system? I keep having a problem with my audio where my coputer will stop playing audio files unles i adjust the volume formthe keyboard,but this only fixes it for a min. restartingthe computer fixes the problems for a few hours so i figure if ir estart teh audio server? Deamon? im not sure what its called but i think i can just restart that to fix my problem07:05
hansi get menu edito, application laucher settings, and unlock widgets07:05
cvdhow to clear the recently-used from KIckOff Application launcher?07:07
cvdanoying07:07
v1tturight click07:08
hans:)07:08
v1ttuit and select remove07:08
r00t_how can nobody know how to restart the audio server/deamon?07:09
cvdi don't thought of that :-S07:10
cvdthanks07:10
cvdv1ttu:07:10
v1ttunp bro o/07:11
r00t_Nevermind it was quite simple,im surpired nobody here knew the answer:   sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart07:11
cvdthey pretent to know07:12
hansyes mr. idonotrightclick07:13
v1ttuwtf?07:13
hans!language07:14
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.07:14
v1ttuis that @ me?07:14
hansyou do right click07:14
r00t_lsof | grep pcm or grep snd works as well.07:15
r00t_for teh next time some poor lost soul has to experiance the same crap i just went through07:15
cvdsorry easy offended = pretender07:16
cvdwhat the im writing, i think its time to sleep07:16
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Guest37417hey guys i have a problem... my media sound doesn't work!!... the system sounds seem to work but media doesn't... i have installed the codecs in kubuntu 9.10 for audio and visual.... any help?07:43
Guest37417hey guys i have a problem... my media sound doesn't work!!... the system sounds seem to work but media doesn't... i have installed the codecs in kubuntu 9.10 for audio and visual.... any help?07:45
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[THC]AcidRainall girls who wish to send me a pic of "ACidRain" on their titties, please send to xxacidrainxx@hotmail.com07:49
[THC]AcidRain:P07:50
noaXessgood morning08:26
noaXessis there a special ubuntu kernel channel?08:26
noaXessgrr.. found ir right now..08:27
BiggFREEHi08:37
BiggFREEAre you all sleeping ?08:43
vHandaHi. Is there some way to install libavcodec-dev of lucid in karmic?08:49
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monkeykjuhello every body!08:59
monkeykjuI'm a new user Kubuntu!09:00
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monkeykjuCan you help me?09:00
vandenoevermy dbus-daemon is using 100% cpu and blocking some kde4 apps, what could be the cause of this?09:07
apersonmonkeykju, we're all here to help.  Why not start off with your question?09:18
monkeykjusorry i has found answer.09:21
monkeykjuthanks !09:21
Guest49333whats the easiest way to get chm support in okular?09:30
BiggFREE_bbl09:42
BiggFREE_tc09:42
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darrenare there cd formats that linux cant read? having trouble reading some cd's that i burned using nero on windows...10:10
ahmtblblherkese selam10:39
ahmtblblhi all10:39
ahmtblbltürk arkadaş varmı acaba yardımcı olabilicek10:39
Mamarok!tr | ahmtblbl10:42
ubottuahmtblbl: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:42
ahmtblblteşekkürler ubottu10:43
n8w_hey11:48
x0lubihi11:48
franshi11:49
fransbye11:50
lisa_hi, i have a problem with printing pdfs. everything else is working. when i print a pdf the prinout is half size and in landscape mode and some of the printout is over the boarder of the paper12:13
lisa_the same problem ocours with ps (postscript)12:14
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barbarahello13:53
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ToraToraToraAnyone using vlc in kubuntu? I need to find it's configuration file. It won't start anymore after I changed some settings!14:02
goodtimeToraToraTora: i would just uninstall vlc,then i would reinstall it again14:06
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ToraToraToraI will try that14:07
BluesKajHiyas14:09
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ToraToraTorareinstalling vlc did nothing. unistallation propably didn't remove the settings file.14:17
goodtimeperhaps14:17
goodtimehttp://torrentfreak.com/hacker-takes-over-torrentz-sort-of-081116/14:18
amichairis it possible in kate to show whitespace markers (space/tab/cr/lf)?14:19
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gilleshello everyone14:24
gillesi'm happily using konqueror but i'm having troubles with sites like jiwa, deezer14:25
gillesothers flash sites like youtube works fine14:25
EliripsHello. I just installed kubuntu 9.10, everything working fine. excepct, knetworkmanager asks for the password for kwallet each time after login (to connect to wireless), can I change this somehow, so the pw is not needed?15:02
beyondcrwhen i do lshw -C multimedia i get *-multimedia UNCLAIMED any ideas????????15:02
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gunkhello15:06
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beyondcrwhen i do lshw -C multimedia i get *-multimedia UNCLAIMED  any ideas ?15:09
rethuswhich programm can i use to maximize my partition ?15:17
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otswimhello, does anyone know why i can't use enter to send message? it creates a newline; if i change the shortcut to ctrl+enter it works;    but i also have another problem: why does kopete open links with konqueror even though i put firefox in default applications (and xdg-open http://whatever.com open with firefox); and one last thing, why does kopete enable auto spell check every time i restart it, even though spell check is globally disabled in '15:18
Vgerethus: gparted15:18
otswimRegional & Language'?15:18
rethusVge: for kubuntu a gnom appplication?15:18
rethusdoes it need many gnome enviroment to install?15:18
Vge!help15:19
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:19
vbgunzother than grouping windows automatically. is there a way to group windows without assigning middle click to do it through the title bar alone?15:19
Vge!gparted15:19
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php15:19
Vgerethus: i might wanna go with the livecd, it's usefull to have at hand in anycase15:20
rethusso better to startfrom live cd as start from new system themself?15:20
rethusk, i do so15:21
m_tadeuhi all...how can I password protect a folder? and make sure the password is asked then trying to enter that folder15:41
vetvickahi, pls, how can i update and upgrade system without upgrade KDE (I dont like KDE 4 and I want to stay in 3.)?15:48
mharmantyo15:54
geniivetvicka: KDE3 is only remaining in Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and is not in any later versions. Hardy will still be supported until April 201116:04
vbgunzI no longer get any updates from korganizer automatically?16:06
vbgunzwhat happened?16:06
vetvickaBut How I can update all applications without upgrade KDE?16:06
vetvickaMy PC have problem swith kde4 :(16:07
geniivetvicka: If you are on Hardy, just uninstall kde4 and it will never get updated, only your kde3 will. Then any system updates you do will be for the right kde version16:08
vetvickathanks, genii16:11
geniivetvicka: You're welcome16:11
geekityhiya16:19
geekityi've installed kubuntu 9.10 on a vayo vpceb1s0e, but the sound isn't working at all16:20
geekity*vaio16:20
geekityhas anyone had the same problem by any chance?16:20
clustermagnetgents, this is pathetic... i need to find a good place to rtfm about kubuntu/ubuntu networking16:24
clustermagnetits not aparent to me how to specify a socks proxy anywhere116:24
marek_hi, do you know any reliable symfony shop plugin that is under development and usable?16:29
cerriehello, please help, i just installed kubuntu 2 mins ago. now my wirless wont work. when i ran the LIVE CD it said i had to enable a driver then it worked. it didnt ask me this time. can someone please tell me how to get it running?16:31
cerrieplease..16:34
geekitycerrie: what wifi card do you have?16:36
cerriebcm somthing.. when the live cd was runnig it said click to enable propiaratary drive16:37
cerrieand it worked great16:37
alakoocerrie: is that a laptop? what model?16:37
cerrieyes, its a HP dv5t-110016:38
cerrieis there not a way to add hardware like in a control pannel?16:38
alakoowhat does "applications - system - hardware drivers" give you16:39
geekitythink you have firmware problems, broadcom wifi cards usually do16:40
cerrieahhh this is what poped up whilst on live cd. and it said BCM Wirless driver.16:40
cerriebut its empty now16:40
cerriewhy would it work on the live cd and not now i installed it?16:40
alakoocerrie:  try : system settings - network settings - wireless- add"16:40
alakoothen you'll see "scan"16:40
cerriekk16:40
alakooand try to connect to your network16:40
cerriewirless is greayed out16:42
cerriethis didnt work before either, thats when the driver thing poped up16:42
cerrieclick BCM the all was gravey16:42
geekitycerrie: could you open up a terminal, run lspci -vv and find the full name of the wifi card in it to post here please?16:43
cerriekk16:44
cerriethanks btw16:44
geekityno probs, dunno if i'll be any help as yet :)16:44
cerrielol16:45
cerrie00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)16:45
cerrie        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360216:45
cerrie        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-16:45
cerrie        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-16:45
cerrie        Latency: 016:45
FloodBotK1cerrie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:45
alakooI found comments that knetworkmanage might not work in intel mobile series, wicd might do the trick16:47
alakoocerrie: hardware drivers didn't suggest anything?16:47
rosco_yDoes anyone know of a desktop widgit for following feeds?16:48
geekitycerrie: just the bit giving the bcm driver name16:48
rosco_ydoes uBlog do that?16:49
geniirosco_y: The widget called "News" works pretty good16:50
rosco_ygenii--Thanks!16:50
geniiTheres also the RSSNOW widget16:50
cerriewhat do u mean ? sorry16:55
RussellAlanwhat is the apt-get for kubuntu ?16:55
RussellAlanfrom 8.1016:55
cerriei dont wanna have to use the live cd everytime, it slooow16:55
cerriethink i was blocked from typing16:55
cerrieis there a way to add hardware? i have the driver its on the kubuntu CD..?16:56
apparlecerrie: what do you mean add hardware?16:56
apparlecerrie: what hardware16:57
cerriei mean where do i go to install drivers?16:57
cerriesystem setting?16:57
alakooapplications - system - hardware drivers16:58
cerriebut there's no add button?16:58
cerriethats where the driver was listed before i installed off the cd16:59
apparlecerrie: be specific .... what hardware are you talking about17:00
apparlecerrie: do this in console "sudo apt-get update" and then see if it comes in hardware drivers17:00
cerriemy wirless card. when i run Kubuntu from the CD hardware driver pops up and says i have to enable this BCM driver for my wirless card. Now that i have installed kubuntu and not using the cd, the hardware driver window does not popup17:01
cerriewill do17:01
alakoocerrie:  I still don't know what your wlan car exactly is but perhaps http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads might help you17:02
cerriegonan reboot brb, thanks all17:03
geekityalakoo: cerrie's card was bcm4312 by the look of her lspci output17:05
cerriethis is weird17:05
cerriei can boot on the livecd and all works fine?17:06
geekitycerrie: is the card working?17:06
cerrienope :O( just updated the system'17:06
cerriehwo can i change from networkmanager to the other one wlic?17:07
genii!bcm43xx17:08
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:08
cerriethanks17:08
geniiThose cards are very problemmatic :(17:09
cerrieso it seems lol17:09
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cerrieterminals going crazy lol.. this may work :O) thanks for that link17:11
cerrieshould i reboot afteter installing drivers?17:12
cerriekernel-source17:12
[THC]AcidRaini need someone to help me install a shoutcast server in ubuntu, but when i get back. thx ahead of time17:13
[THC]AcidRain:)17:13
penguin_txtesting new chat client17:24
cerriehey guys :O) im wirless ! thank you so much!17:26
cerrieif anyone else needs help : ~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source17:26
geniipenguin_tx: Apparently it works17:27
penguin_txthanks genii :)17:27
softmanhello all17:28
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rosco_yDoes anyone know how to change the default browser to Firefox?17:35
raj_GUYS i need help please i think google is spying on me.. I HAVE google sources in the GUI that i can not get rid off at ALL it keeps coming back.  but under /etc/apt/sources.list its not LISTED. its weird. its making it hell to update my packages it freezes up my updates here is a screenshot HELP anyone: http://imagebin.org/8737217:35
rosco_yraj_:  I'm a newb, but do you see google in your sources list?17:37
Tophanyone know the best place to get info om using Cinelerra?   even some good online tutorials?17:38
rorkrosco_y: System Settings > default applications > web browser17:39
raj_resco_y no i dont only in the GUI application take a look at my screenshot17:39
jhutchins_ltWhy would google be spying on someone?17:48
bottigerI'm trying to connect to a wireless network on kde 4.4.1. clicking the network manager I get two options. "Auto eth0" or "connect to other network". choosing "other network" gives me a list of some wireless options, but I can't see the signal strength before I connect17:52
bottigeris there a better way to do this?17:52
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SerraphynAnyone know how to reset kwallet password, for some reason its not taking the password it has for last few days..17:56
amichairanyone try they new nvidia 195 drivers yet?17:58
geniiSerraphyn: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.old                 should reset it, then next it runs put a new password18:06
SerraphynThanks18:06
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geniiamichair: The 195 drivers screwed my X and i had to go back to the 185 ones18:07
geekitydoes anyone know how to get the network manager app for gnome rather than knetwork manager on kde?18:07
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amichairgenii: ouch. I'm with the 190's for a couple months with no problems, just saw the 195 is out18:08
SerraphynI have 190 drivers running18:08
BluesKajlucid here , 195 seems to be ok so far18:09
amichairBluesKaj: hey BluesKaj :-)18:09
BluesKajhi amichair18:09
amichairI'm still on karmic, with 190 and no problems. maybe I should wait a bit before moving to 195...18:09
BluesKajyeah, no reason to if it's working well18:10
Serraphynmy wine is running runs like crap18:10
SerraphynThough i do have to saw it runs WAY better then cedega18:11
amichairI'll wait for the next time my plasma process reaches 1G RAM forcing me to restart. should be a couple of weeks.18:11
amichairbtw the 195 changelog does mention fixed specifically in KDE18:12
amichairfixes18:13
cerriesorry everyone. i have no screensaver. i installed kscreensaver.. any advice?18:13
geniicerrie: System Settings...Desktop...Screensaver18:15
amichairdoes anyone here use ktorrent with preallocating disk space?18:16
harolddongis anybody of issue with yahoo accounts causing kopete to crash when they connect?  I've had this issue off and on since upgrading to 4.4 and I can't figure out what's wrong18:40
AegNuddelIs a ppa needed for the new version of kdenlive?  I had already added some in but I am trying to get my sister updated18:56
lovrehi all. I need to capture screen with python on kubuntu. How can i do this?18:59
slow-motionhi19:02
geniilovre: Maybe ask in #python19:02
lovregenii: i was, but noone was answering, and since its quiet here i thought ill give it a try. Sorry for OT19:03
geniilovre: I don't use python but info here suggests they have an image grabbing function you could use in some program you wrote: http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/imagegrab.htm19:04
geniiAh, sorry, has "Windows only" which i just noticed19:04
lovregenii: ye19:04
lovregenii: thats why i ask. Sux19:05
geniilovre: Why not use ksnapshot if you are alreay in kubuntu? Is it some exercise?19:05
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lovregenii: the thing is i want to automatically take snapshots at a certain rate, it cant be by hand19:05
geniilovre: Why not use something like recordmydesktop  and then later ffmpeg to reduce the footage to whatever frames per sec you want?19:07
lovregenii: not a bad idea.... But the thing is its about real-time processing, so i cant process it at a later time...19:08
lovregenii: i really just need capture on demand kind of utility19:08
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lovredoesnt seem to be easy way in linux to do so19:08
geniilovre: VLC can apparently be set up to do screen capture if you set the source to something like screen://19:11
lovre:o19:11
lovrewhat does it do with output?19:12
geniilovre: Dumps it to a file, normally19:12
lord_algum brasileiro?19:16
lovregenii: thank you, i have to go. bye19:17
genii!br19:19
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.19:19
jessihello  alll19:32
jessiin dragon, I do not see the images, but only the voice arranges operating kubuntu.19:34
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mitchbazhi im wondering if some one can help me,, iv installed kubuntu and updated. and i used to get some surgestion about  installing codecs but i now dont get that and i would like to have mp3 and avi files to work. please can some one help me .... thanks :)19:43
BluesKajmitchbaz, copy and paste in the terminal, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras libdvdcss2 flashplugin-nonfree19:45
mitchbazthanks, ill try that now :)19:46
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jessihello all20:13
jessiin dragon, I do not see the images, but only the voice arranges operating kubuntu.20:13
dribble_knghtHello acronica20:18
dribble_knghtups wrong tab20:19
dribble_knghthello everyone.  I have a pb in Kubuntu. Firefox only loads google, any other sites won't load20:19
jessiI have installed KUBUNTU, but I do not succeed to see a film dvd, black screen and is felt the voice, what must make?20:21
rorkjessi: did you read install kubuntu-restricted-extras and read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs20:24
jessisudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras   ?????????????20:24
rorkyes20:24
jessirork,   it does not go20:26
jessirork,   the voice is felt but the screen is black20:26
rorkjessi: did the package install?20:27
jessiyes20:27
rorkjessi: have you installed libdvdread4?20:28
jessisudo apt-get install libdvdread4 ???????????20:28
rorkyes20:28
jessi it does not go20:29
rorkand then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh20:29
jessiit does not go20:31
rorkhm, should've done the job20:32
rorkyou may want to try the medibuntu packages then: http://www.medibuntu.org/20:33
MrMazdaapt-get install kubuntu-desktop killed nfs. How can I fix it?20:38
MrMazdaWhere is runlevel editor hiding in Kubuntu 9.10 menus?20:39
MrMazdano manual entry for initng20:41
SatManUKwhy does kubuntu crash when i try to open a console session on ctrl alt f1?20:43
SatManUKif i swtich to console session 1, login and start to type any commands, my screen goes black and the laptop freezes up20:43
MrMazdaintel video?20:44
SatManUKnope ATi20:44
SatManUKi had this problem years ago in 7.x (which was the last time i used kubuntu before this laptop)20:45
SatManUKI prefer to do system updates via aptitude in console login.. i can do it through console within gui - but why can't i use console without the laptop locking up?20:45
MrMazdawhich kubuntu?20:46
MrMazdawhich kernel?20:47
SatManUK9.10 is it?20:47
SatManUK2.6.3120:48
SatManUKpae20:48
SatManUKLinux stuart-laptop 2.6.31-20-generic-pae #57-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 10:23:59 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux20:48
MrMazdanewer might be blamed on kms20:49
SatManUKwhat do you mean?20:50
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X-TREME-ASHey all20:53
MrMazdakernel exclusive modesetting in 2.6.33+ kernels20:53
SatManUKbut im not using 2.6.33..20:53
SatManUKshould i upgrade?20:54
Goliath23hi. just upgraded to 4.4.1 packages on an eeepc (netbook edition). after login i get a blank screen. if i start plasma-netbook manually, everything works fine.20:55
Goliath23known issue?20:55
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slow-motionbye21:08
mitchbazhai, wondering if there is a simpler package mansger like they have in ubuntu? as this one is a little confusing :S21:10
mitchbazkubuntu user21:10
acronicaHi21:10
acronicaCan anyone help me with Amarok?21:10
mitchbazi can try21:10
acronicaI'm trying to use my mp3 player with Amarok21:11
mitchbazso it can play .mp3 files you mean?21:11
acronicaIt's recognized and all,   but I can't figure out how to remove a set of files from the device21:11
acronicaI can 'delete' them, but then they're also removed from my local collection21:11
mitchbazsorry i dont know :S im new to all this as well21:12
acronicaahh well,  I hope somebody else can help me with this21:13
acronica'cause it's really anoying21:13
mitchbazare you trying to remove files from the device?  if so id use dolphin file manager to access the device,21:14
mitchbazhai, thar,, dose any one know if you can get a simpler package manager? somthing like the one in ubuntu21:20
n8w_hey21:22
n8w_where in kmail do i set that i wanna download only 1 week old messages?21:22
n8w_i cant find the option for this anywhere21:23
SatManUKmitchbaz: what do you need? just aptitide install program21:24
SatManUKaptitude install program21:24
SatManUKsimple :)21:24
mitchbazyeah i could do that, but i used to look down the list and see what looks cool, on ubuntu21:25
acronicamitchbaz: you can use synaptic (it's gtk, but it works for me) or kpackagekit21:25
mona_ukraineis there any difference in apt-get install stuff and aptitude install stuff21:25
mona_ukraine?21:25
acronicamitchbaz: Although I probably could use dolphin to remove stuff from my mp3 player, I would like to do that with Amarok21:26
mitchbazok thanks :) ill check them out if not i dont mind21:26
[THC]AcidRainwhat type of sql database management tools are there for mysql?21:26
mitchbazacronica: well to the left of the program you can look in other directories, have you tryed that ?21:27
acronicaI used Banshee with gnome, since the early 0.1 releases. It didn't have any eye-candy or fancy schmancy user interface, but it "Just Worked"21:27
mitchbazacronica: i think amarock is more to be just like a music player :S thats all i ever use it for21:29
acronicaWell, it gives me the idea that it does a lot more21:30
acronicafor instance, it recognizes the mp3 player, it shows all the files that are on it, etc. etc.21:31
acronicait also says "device support' on the feature list on http://amarok.kde.org21:31
mitchbazsorry guys i got to go now hope you fix things,, cya21:31
SatManUKany idea what kubuntu crashes when i switch to console sessions and start to type?21:36
[THC]AcidRainwhat is a good radio broadcasting application for ubuntu. to a shoutcast server21:44
[THC]AcidRain?21:47
ajhansenhi there22:00
ajhansenim having a problem with the network-manager22:00
ajhansenit looks like the knetworkmanager thats in use but i wanna use plasmoid-widget-network-manager since its supposed to actually work with mobile broadband22:01
ajhansenbut even though i can create a mobile broadband connection i can never connect to it..22:01
ajhansenhelp!!22:01
ajhansen;)22:01
ajhansenanyone?22:03
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kpenroseCan someone explain the semantic desktop to me that's in KDE 4.4?22:12
[THC]AcidRainhow do i get xmms to send audio to shoutcast serveR?22:14
princesscc22:24
princessjoin #ubuntu22:24
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sykehi23:24
sykeI'm trying to use kbluetooth to add a headset23:25
sykewhen it tried to pair with the device, it errors out and says it not an input device23:25
sykethis is with the KDE SC 4.4 latest from PPA on KUbuntu 9.10 amd6423:25
sykethis process works fine on Ubuntu 9.10 on amd6423:25
sykeusing the gnome bluetooth admin23:26
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zegenie_syke: I'm pretty sure the kbluetooth application doesn't support this yet23:29
sykezegenie_: ah, that would explain it23:41
zegenie_indeed23:42
syketoo bad; KDE used to be ahead of gnome on bluetooth support just a few years ago :/23:42
zegenie_bluetooth for kde4 is still a bit young23:42
rapaalgun español que me diga un canal español de kubuntu?23:42
sykeis there anyone actively working on this? I will really need this in my day to day work23:42
sykehopefully I won't have to switch to gnome to make it go23:43
zegenie_syke: yes, very much so23:43
sykebeen using KDE since 1999 or so23:43
zegenie_http://www.afiestas.org/23:43
sykezegenie_: should I try 10.04? or can I check out from trunk and try that?23:43
zegenie_that guy blogs a lot about his work on kbluetooth23:43
zegenie_unless you know what you're doing I wouldn't recommend using alphas (10.04) or trunk (kde 4.5 current)23:44
sykeoh cool, thanks for the link!23:45
sykelooks like 0.4.2 might be safe to try23:45
sykeah23:46
zegenie_cool, good luck :)23:46
sykehe says in the comments it will be in 0.5 release23:46
sykeso I'll test that23:46
sykehopefully it won't be too late to get it into 10.0423:46
zegenie_you can always try gnome bluetooth anyway23:46
sykenot being able to pair with a headset is pretty common these days23:46
sykezegenie_: yea, but I don't like having all the libs and whatever installed and taking up memory, if I can help it23:47
sykeanyways, thanks for the pointer!23:47
zegenie_sure23:47
zegenie_I do it with network manager gnome, because the kde4 version simply isn't good enough23:47
sykezegenie_: my desktop @ work just uses ethernet, so kneworkmanager works pretty well for me in that scenario23:50
zegenie_syke: hehe, yeah for that scenario, knetworkmanager / plasma-widget-networkmanager or whatever it's called nowadays does the trick ;)23:51
sykeon my laptop, KDE3's kentworkmanager had just gotten usable and then the next version took a giant leap backward23:52
sykebtw, this article looks like it will work for me: http://www.funkynerd.com/?p=1323:52
rapaplz i can say me when i know the name of tar.bz2 archiv for put in a | sudo aptitude install * ?¿23:53
zegenie_that's kool23:53
zegenie_rapa: you can't23:53
rapathen i can install that?23:53
rapasry me english23:54
zegenie_rapa: "aptitude" is for installing programs from the repositories23:55
zegenie_if you downloaded a .tar.bz2 file it is most likely the sourcecode of a program that you must compile and install manually23:55
zegenie_which is usually a much more tedious process23:56
zegenie_but you can often find ".deb" files to download instead of .tar.bz223:56
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rapafor example ati drivers i getout archive succesfully but the next. what archive must i choose? how know that ?23:58
rapai need read the instruccion i think..23:59
zegenie_ati drivers are a bit more complicated23:59
zegenie_you should definately read the instructions on the kubuntu/ubuntu wiki23:59

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