[00:26] for UDS-M.. what is a "member of the crew" [00:27] bcurtiswx: It usually means someone willing to help out in various ways (changing signs, giving 5-minute warnings to sessions, helping move stuff around for room setup/teardown, etc.) [00:28] persia: ah, neat. I've done that at another annual conference.. its actually kinda fun [01:39] bug 526453 is ready to be [low, triaged]. i was thinking medium at first, but low seems more appropriate since the user can simply leave the search bar in the toolbar and it will function properly [01:39] Launchpad bug 526453 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Firefox does not allow users to change the default search engine, unless the search bar is present (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526453 [01:48] ddecator: bug 526453: 6. 6. Go to View -> Toolbars -> Customize and drag the search box out of the toolbar doesn't have a search box to remove for me [01:48] Launchpad bug 526453 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Firefox does not allow users to change the default search engine, unless the search bar is present (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526453 [01:50] kermiac, you should be able to drag the search bar out of the top toolbar, removing it and placing it in the customization window, so then there will only be the address bar [01:50] ok, that wasn't clear in the reproduction steps (I don't mess with FF settings that much though) [01:51] hm, i could reword it if you think it's too unclear [01:53] might be a good idea.... devs would probably know what you mean though - as I said, I don't mess with FF settings that much [01:53] one related question though... [01:53] alright, i'll work on that. and yes? [01:53] is there any way to make the search bar go back to the original size after placing it back? [01:53] right now it's VERY big, lol [01:53] haha, try restarting FF [01:54] nope, that was the first thing i tried ;) [01:54] did you place it back in the same place to the right of the address bar? [01:55] * kermiac is embarrassed [01:55] user error, lol [01:55] ;) [01:55] ok, well I can reproduce easily (minus my user error) [01:56] I'll set to low/triaged.... you may wish to reword step 6 just to be clear on exactly how to produce [01:57] kermiac, thanks, i'm updating the description right now... [01:57] ok, let me know when you're done & I'll check it & set for you :) [02:00] kermiac, alright, is that more clear? [02:01] * kermiac looks [02:05] excellent work ddecator :) [02:05] much clearer now (for FF noobs, like me) [02:05] kermiac, thanks =) it definitely helps that i'm specializing in FF bugs now, haha, easier to know what to do [02:05] true :) [02:06] now if i can just get one more +1, i won't need to bug you to do this -cough cough- haha [02:07] hahaha... There are a lot more experience -control members than me that should +1 you mate. I've only been in control for a very short time mate ;) [02:07] haha, i know i wasn't implying you should, just saying it'll be nice when it happens ;) [02:07] :) [02:07] alright, on that note, thanks for setting that for me, now i need to go test a bug with lucid une... [02:08] ok mate... keep up the good work :) [02:09] thanks, you too [04:48] question... bug 530256 is a gtg bug.. Since gtg uses LP for bug tracking should the bug be moved from gtg (ubuntu) to just the gtg project? [04:48] Launchpad bug 530256 in gtg (Ubuntu) "gtg crashed with GError in loadDialog() (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530256 [05:05] cjohnston: it's not about the package? [05:05] * micahg is looking [05:06] cjohnston: just open a task for GTG as well === scream is now known as QDA4 [05:56] Why Why do I have to get so busy. === QDA4 is now known as scream [07:06] I saw that Brian un-set the security vulnerability flag on bug 530805 - any idea why I don't have permission to access it? This is the first time I have seen this so it got me curious :) [07:06] kermiac: Bug 530805 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/530805 is private [07:06] ah nvm - bot answered my question, lol [07:11] heh [07:11] Look the bot is answering questions now. [07:21] bug 80399 needs to be sent to fix released right? [07:21] Launchpad bug 80399 in sendmail (Ubuntu) "sendmail configuration makefile fails" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80399 [07:28] good morning! [07:33] morning [07:46] I am outa it is night for me [08:27] hey guys... I experienced a bug with my nVidia card that I think might be a little serious [08:29] I booted it up with the VESA driver - when I installed the nVidia proprietary drivers, the GPU fan spun up to 100%, and I discovered that the card had been very warm. [08:30] toresbe: I don't know where to go further, but first of all, get a good bug report down. [08:30] I assume the card shuts or slows down before damage could be done, but if this and other nVidia cards do this, then it might be a serious problem. [08:34] toresbe: agreed, might want to hop into #ubuntu+1 as well and see if others have similar problems, but do get the bug report done, that way if many sees the same thing and notes it there, it's importance will be obvious. [09:05] morning [11:39] program hangs on [11:39] select(39, [38], [], NULL, NULL [11:40] how to get more information about, I guess, file descriptors number 39, 38 [11:50] bug #531287 [11:50] Launchpad bug 531287 in trickle (Ubuntu) "Trickle does not work with kmail - hangs it (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531287 [12:20] LimCore: the file descriptors are kept in /proc/$APP_PID/fd, ls -l will show if it's a file/device/socket/pipe/... === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:24] number of users fail to use programs like: kgpg, cryptkeeper, because they do not open a window - just a popup. This should be fixed. [12:45] wow 2 sigsegv bugs in encrfs. [12:45] mine is bug #531313 [12:45] Launchpad bug 531313 in cryptkeeper (Ubuntu) "[karmic] cryptkeeper crashes on creating new encfs (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531313 [12:45] if someone have 2 minutes please confirm it [13:03] pedro_, hey! nice to see you around again, I hope you, your family and friends are all fine [13:04] thekorn, hello!! thank you, i'm happy to be here too :-). I'm ok and my family too [13:05] thekorn, a couple of friends lost their home though, but the material things are not the important right now, they are still alive [13:10] pedro_, ok, good. take care ;) [13:10] that's the spirit pedro_ [13:11] how can I set the source package for a bug once I found out what it is? bug in question is bug 525700 and should be against plymouth [13:11] Launchpad bug 525700 in ubuntu "Removing quiet and splash will have gdm start on tty1 (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525700 [13:13] I try: 'also affects distribution', then select ubuntu and plymouth, but I get an error that this bug is already filed against ubuntu [13:14] nevermind, found it [13:27] I wish one day I would try to use something in Ubuntu, and there would be not a 50% chance it will fail totally [13:27] can I do something more to help to fix the encfs bug? Because usesrs are left with no easy encryption it seems (that do not require partition, root, etc) [13:32] LimCore: I use encfs daily [13:32] no prob there [13:37] my netbook won't resume from hibernation/suspend any more, only since one of the updates to alpha 3 [13:40] where should I report a bug? [13:41] ikt: ask in #ubuntu+1 [13:41] but you want to file it against the kernel [13:41] aka linux package [13:41] ikt: though BUGabundo_remote must know about it ;) [13:42] $ ubuntu-bug linux [13:42] nigelb: you are slow :S [13:42] * nigelb thinks BUGabundo_remote knows all the lucid bugs plus bug numbers ;) [13:42] not for the last two cicles :( [13:42] I'm off shape [13:42] bah.. [13:42] time to get back fit ;) [13:43] can't! [13:43] work takes precedence [13:43] ah, reasonable then [13:43] * BUGabundo_remote is afraid to look into MLs folders [13:49] BUGabundo_remote: on karmic? then please comment by bug [14:05] I want to report a postgresql wishlist bug. Upon looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-8.4 I see that not a single postgresql bug is triaged. Am I mistaken, or is postgresql unsupported? It's in main. (A lot of these bugs look like duplicates. I'm willing to triage a few, but not today.) [14:17] OK. The BugSquad membership roster has just been reduced in half ;-) [14:17] thank you hggdh :) [14:17] (just meaning earlier today) [14:18] wish we could have something on the join team itself [14:18] something like a page to write something to admins [14:18] later on, after this adjustment phase [14:19] hm:) [14:19] Heads up bug squad: LP will be read only for a few hours today. [14:20] nigelb: huh? [14:20] i mean time? ;) [14:21] nigelb, all aspects of LP? [14:21] yup [14:21] 2300 UTC [14:21] 23.00 UTC Wed 3 March - 00:30 UTC Thu 4 Marc [14:21] heh , i'll be fast asleep ;p [14:21] Zus: I believe so [14:21] vish: I know, me too [14:22] but US will be awake, just posting a warning :) [14:22] thanks i was actually working on my profile... [14:28] Launchpad just told me that my membership in the Bug Control team is about to expire. [14:30] Should I do anything besides pinging the admins? [14:30] aburch: you can poke brian when he comes on. [14:30] is this bug squad or bug control? [14:30] Bug control. [14:31] yep, poke brian, b d m u r r a y [14:31] "Please pretty please STOP changing the status of this bug!" some one made pitty mad ! [14:31] yay , pedro_ is safe and back :) [14:32] vish: was he unsafe? [14:32] nigelb: earthquake [14:32] * pedro_ hugs vish [14:32] ah :) [14:33] pedro_: welcome back :) [14:33] vish, i'm ok! thanks for worrying about me ;-) [14:33] the internet connection is working pretty slow though, but at least i'm able to IRC a bit [14:33] bdmurray: Could you please renew my bugcontrol membership (~ansgar-43-1)? If there are any questins, I will probably need some time to reply (I'm travelling in the next days). [14:33] phone lines are still going up and down [14:33] but we're safe ;-) [14:33] pedro_: lot of us here were worried :) and seb_128 put our minds to rest :) [14:35] s/to rest/at ease [14:36] pedro_: I must have spammed you quite a bit with bug mails :) [14:37] nigelb, no worries about that ;-) [14:38] pedro_: Welcome!! [14:38] hehe [14:39] * pedro_ hugs hggdh [14:40] * hggdh higs pedro_ -- really. Glad to know all is well with you & yours [14:40] s/higs/hugs/ # oh dyslexia [14:40] lol [15:05] * LimCore writes letter to god why the noobs didn't still fixed earthquakes with attached strace [15:09] hola pedro_ [15:09] hello there ddecator! [15:10] pedro_, do you have some time to work with me this morning? [15:10] ddecator, tomorrow would be better, but if you have any question just drop those here in the channel [15:11] I'm sure our rocking bugsquad will help with any [15:11] pedro_, fair enough, i have a ton of bugmail to respond to anyway. i'll plan on tomorrow then =). did you have a good vacation? (sorry to go off topic for a second) [15:12] ddecator, had a good beginning of the holidays but a terrible end due to the earthquake [15:12] pedro_, i didn't realize you were near the earthquake, sorry to hear about that. [15:13] pedro_, You was near the earthquake? [15:13] BUGabundo_remote: so creating a new encfs from cryptkeeper does not crash for you? on lucid? karmic? [15:13] BUGabundo_remote: 32 or 64? [15:14] Hellow, I was near the city of the epicenter, nothing bad happened to me or to my family though [15:14] pedro_, That's good that nothing happened to you guys. [15:15] * vish thinks we can add pedro_'s safe return to the channel topic ;) [15:16] * ddecator agrees [15:22] LimCore: ? cryptkeeper? [15:22] never used that! [15:22] currently lucid 64 [15:23] volume created long ago in 8.x [15:26] if a person doesn't give apport proper permission (when running apport-collect), how can they change the permission so they can use it? [15:27] BUGabundo_remote: yes, I was saying about using encfs via cryptkeeper. Perhaps you can try it? [15:27] if it has not been changed, delete the current auth, and create a new one with the correct permissions [15:27] ddecator: ^ [15:27] hggdh, thanks. how would they delete the current auth? [15:30] ddecator: heh. Now I have to remember that also... it will be in a hidden directory off home [15:30] let me look for it [15:31] haha, great, thanks hggdh [15:33] hggdh, ddecator ~/.cache/apport/launchpad.credentials [15:33] thekorn, tyvm [15:34] hah! Thank you, thekorn . We should try to standardise the launchpadlib credentials directory [15:34] i need to change my custom stock response so it reminds them to give permission... [15:34] I found a bug that silently (nothing in logs) crahes apache. How to debug? [15:34] * thekorn files a bug to change this location, launchpadlib is now smart enough to use a central place [15:34] hggdh, exactly [15:38] thekorn: can you give me the bug #? I would like to subscribe [15:39] hggdh, upps, sorry, have to create the bug in 1.5 hours, have to get a bus now [15:39] thekorn: np [15:39] but sure, will post the id here [15:42] are people having an issue with this mercedes character? [15:43] micahg, yup [15:45] micahg: re: the foul language in a firefox bug, already taken care of [15:45] nigelb: really...I haven't gotten to that yet [15:45] nigelb, there was foul language in one? i just had to reset the status of a few... [15:46] you'll get there ;) [15:46] bug 497117 [15:46] Launchpad bug 497117 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i915gm] Firefox appears to crash Ubuntu (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497117 [15:47] nigelb, that's someone else, but thanks for taking care of that haha [15:47] no problem :) [15:47] nigelb: ah, yeah..thanks [15:47] should we have the LP downtime on /topic? wise to have it? [15:48] micahg, yah i got a few emails about mercedes this morning just for firefox, idk if anything got changed for -3.0 or -3.5 [15:50] nigelb: well, not the focus of this channel...should be in #launchpad topic though [15:50] its there [15:50] but if we get excessive, I can't file a bug [15:50] it would be nice to have it here too [15:51] what do you mean if we get excessive... [15:51] well, lots of people popping in to ask why they are not able to file bugs [15:51] nigelb: IIRC, that doesn't usually happen [15:51] but if LP directs them to #launchpad or shows a sane error message, no worries [15:51] ah, then fine :) [15:52] micahg, mind taking a look at bug 524065 ? i'm not sure if you know what the cause would be or not [15:52] Launchpad bug 524065 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Download Manager does not display an icon to download (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524065 [15:52] hggdh: do you think we should file a block request for this user changing all the statuses or try email first? [15:52] (title isn't the clearist...) [15:54] ddecator: I think that's an upstream issue that's been filed already...I forgot the bug number [15:54] although, I'm not sure if it's firefox or not [15:55] ddecator: BTW, good job on finding that upstream bug for the deleted search box [15:55] let me see it [15:56] hggdh: the user? [15:56] micahg, thanks, i'm getting better at figuring bugzilla out haha. i wasn't sure if this was upstream since windows uses the default icons. i can look for an upstream report though [15:56] yes. Have a link? I am not sure I know who you are talking about [15:58] hggdh: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~preciousa1237 [15:58] hggdh, bug 501393 is one example [15:58] Launchpad bug 501393 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Integrate Firefox notifications with notify-osd bling (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501393 [15:59] apache crashing bug is security? [16:00] hggdh: we probably need status changes made by a user to show in their LP history, (it does not right now) [16:00] LimCore: probably not [16:00] nigelb: indeed [16:01] I'll file it when I get time. Busy days. New timings at work [16:01] I can see only one bug the user changed [16:01] ddecator: ^ [16:02] hggdh: I have gotten at least 3 [16:02] hggdh, yah that's why i provided one example, i can provide another...one sec [16:04] what the...i know i had en email for another one that someone else reset the status on, but it's not in my trash [16:05] oh, the same the micahg just had to take him off of assigned... [16:05] hggdh, bug 432876 [16:05] ddecator: Bug 432876 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/432876 is private [16:06] hggdh: crashing apache is not DoS security problem? [16:06] huh, still got an email for it... [16:06] bug #531441 [16:06] Launchpad bug 531441 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "[karmic] Apache crashes (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531441 [16:06] pretty sure it's not private, but ok [16:06] LimCore: not necessarily, and probably not [16:07] ddecator: indeed it is not private [16:07] hggdh, thought so haha, i'm looking at it now [16:08] let's try first by sending him/her an email asking not to do it, and linking the HelpingWithBugs [16:08] hggdh, good deal, thanks =) [16:08] new user, may just be lost/experimenting [16:08] it does make the karma requirement appealing... [16:09] ddecator: please copy the text of the email with a comment of why to the -control ML (so that we all know this was done) [16:09] hggdh, which email? you mean about the karma requirement that a bug was filed for? [16:10] no the one (via +contactuser) to mercedes [16:10] hggdh, oh, you want me to send the email to mercedes? [16:11] I had understood you would... [16:11] but I can do it [16:11] hggdh, haha i was thanking you for doing it, but i can if you want. just let me know [16:13] I will do it [16:13] :-) [16:13] thanks, your the pro at this ;) [16:13] (so to stop the "wait for me to wait for you" :-) [16:17] micahg, mozilla 410094 looks good to me [16:17] Mozilla bug 410094 in Download Manager "Missing file type icons in download manager" [Minor,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410094 [16:22] micahg, i linked it downstream. if you can put it on the upstream report and mark the downstream [low, triaged], i think we're set for that one [16:26] hggdh, micahg: http://shermann.name/content/thank-you-micah-and-zend-framework-1-10-2 [16:27] :) [16:27] heh. Way to go, micahg :-) [16:29] * nigelb hugs micahg :) [16:31] heh..cool [16:32] thanks hggdh, nigelb [16:40] seb128: is CSD in Lucid an upstream GNOME thing or an Ubuntu thing? [16:40] micahg, ubuntu for now it was too late for GNOME schedule this cycle [16:41] ie after their feature freeze [16:41] it will be GNOME upstream probably next cycle though [16:41] micahg, why? [16:42] seb128: well, I saw the bugs cody opened for firefox and thunderbird and was wondering if this is something that needs to be upstreamed for a more permanent fix [16:43] micahg, better to talk to bratsche about that maybe, not sure if that's a gtk issue or a firefox one [16:43] or in which one it should be worked [16:45] seb128: k === radoe_ is now known as radoe [17:06] bdmurray: who is scheduling bug days while pedro is gone? [17:06] jcastro: we hadn't anticipated his absence on Thursday... [17:06] jcastro: Do you want to set one up? ;-) [17:07] I was hoping to request one and then have you guys go off and do the actual work. :D [17:07] I bet! [17:08] jcastro: for next week? its a bit short notice for tomorrow [17:08] for whenever [17:09] Gwibber bugs need love [17:09] bdmurray: this guy om26er has adopted it and he's doing a good job there, so I was thinking one day to help get them under control would help out ken and ryan a ton [17:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning - you could put it there ;-) [17:11] ok! [17:44] aburch: you are all set now [17:58] I reported a bug on launchpad that apport retracing said was a duplicate of another bug. That bug didn't have a way to reproduce it and it was forwarded to the gnome bug tracker, where it was marked as RESOLVED INCOMPLETE because the person didn't know how to reproduce it. I logged in and added instructions to reproduce it, but I can't figure out how to mark it as REOPENED. [17:59] (I guess I should actually ask a question) So, how can I set the bug to reopened? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:14] heh. Gone [18:16] well, after all it's IRC - you should response faster! [18:16] * kklimonda cracks his whip! [18:16] work, work, work! === LimCore is now known as bender_pharaoh [18:18] * bender_pharaoh ports Ubuntu to GNU/Hurd [18:18] * bender_pharaoh *whip* now fix all the bugs. and REMEMBER ME === bender_pharaoh is now known as limcore [18:25] yes, master, right away, master [18:26] * hggdh goes back to reading the book, confident master cannot see it [18:32] bdmurray, hey, can you please (one last time) extend my membership im bughelper-devs, before we decide how to go on with this team/project [18:32] s/im7in [18:32] em, fail [18:33] I mainly would like to be member of this team because of lp:~bughelper-dev/bughelper/bughelper-ng [18:35] thekorn: you are an admin of the team - can you not change your own membership? [18:36] bdmurray, I can change everything except my own expiry date [18:36] which is kind of strange [18:37] heh that's neat [18:37] maybe it is even a bug that an admin can expire from a team at all [18:37] not sure what would happen if the only admin expires [18:54] one way to find out, thekorn [18:54] >-) [18:55] oi :) [18:55] staging might help herte [18:55] -t [18:56] oh, thanks for the reminder, /me goes creating the apporrt bug [18:56] * genii ponders Hurdbuntu [19:05] hggdh, bug 531535 [19:05] Launchpad bug 531535 in apport "use generic ~/.launchpadlib folder to store credentials and cache (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531535 [19:06] thekorn: thank you [19:29] who deals with libc/locales? [19:41] KJMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [19:41] * limcore removes cat [21:07] seb128: to get - git update to revert the tab at the bottom change (lp: #509079) done after upgrades [21:07] all I need to do is kill nautilus ? [21:07] yes, nautilus --quit [21:08] humm [21:08] still on bottom [21:09] nautilus: [21:09] Installed: 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu1 [21:09] humm [21:09] not updated yet [21:09] *** 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu1 0 [21:09] 500 http://mirrors.fe.up.pt lucid/main Packages [21:09] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Packages [21:09] wasn't it fix released? [21:09] nautilus (1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2) lucid; urgency=low [21:13] seb128: ^^^^^ [21:13] BUGabundo, change mirror? [21:13] using main [21:14] what arch? [21:14] 64 [21:14] use a better arch? ;-) [21:14] ahaha [21:14] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2/+build/1541482 [21:14] I am [21:14] it built one hour ago [21:14] wait for publishing or get the debs there [21:17] Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main nautilus 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2 [1,259kB] [21:17] there we go [21:20] seb128: I can confirm its fixed! [21:20] *but* still no keyb shortcuts to change tabs [21:29] BUGabundo, did you see that bug getting closed? ;-) [21:30] nope [21:30] I'm tracking it too [21:30] glad desktop team or uptream reverted this code [21:30] hope to get the other too [21:30] ;-) [21:43] Hi [21:44] I'd like to learn how to fix bug 531629 [21:44] Launchpad bug 531629 in xdebug (Ubuntu) "xdebug can't be installed : wrong virtual package (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531629 [21:44] strycore: try #ubuntu-motu [21:45] I wasn't sure if I should ask bugsquad or MOTUs , thanks ;) [21:45] well if you want to help triage it [21:45] its in here [21:45] if you actually want to provide patchs to it, its there :D [21:46] what ever it is, thanks for helping [22:08] during bootup my screen will freeze and I have to hit enter for it to continue booting, do I file a bug directly under plymouth? [22:12] * ikt pokes channel [22:13] file it under your video card [22:13] or "xorg" in general [22:13] cheers [22:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/531650 [22:46] Launchpad bug 531650 in xorg (Ubuntu) "freeze during bootup (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]