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m4vubuntu also got a lot more user friendly these few years, problems like compiling nvdia drivers or getting compiz to work aren't frequent anymore :P00:01
persiaI guess I shouldn't have said "difficult" problems, but perhaps just uncommon ones.00:04
persiaThe idea being to demonstrate that someone knows the system really well, rather than just repeating advice seen elsewhere.00:04
persiaIt's not critical, but I grant extra weight to people providing support who seem to have that (and assume others do as well)00:04
lechepersia: i updated my page but support is in german, i dont know if the council can see what we talk about00:08
persiaEMEA council has at least some folk who read German00:09
lechegood, so, now i need to get some people tell some stuff about me and then i will apply :)00:11
GPenguinfor those who care to read my german mail: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-de/2010-March/019860.html01:22
IdleOneCan I request that everybody check the factoid for your respective languages and please include the " /join #ubuntu-** " so that new users have an easier time joining the channels. Thank you :-)03:37
IdleOneI think it will make it much easier for new users to Ubuntu and irc to find the help they need quicker03:38
IdleOneOh and feel free to submit any edits for other languages also.03:41
lechethis post on the mailinglist seems to be well done07:17
MenZaleche: Which one?07:19
lecheMenZa: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-de/2010-March/019860.html07:19
leche(from GPenguin)07:20
GPenguinleche: you are not ironic?07:20
lecheGPenguin: no, im not07:22
lecheGPenguin: its written in a respectful language.07:22
lechewhy should i? seems to be a good start for a conversation07:22
lechewaaaaaaaaaaay better than your last 2 attempts07:23
leche( i say seems cause im in a hurry and and just overflew it)07:24
lechewill read it completly later.07:24
lechebb07:24
Myrttimeh, google translate refuses that page07:27
leche:/07:27
GPenguinMyrtti: maybe its not properly formatted in html, it was all a quick hack07:28
Myrttino, it just refuses07:29
Myrttilessee if babelfish succeeds07:29
GPenguinwhen enough people care within the german community, then i can try to put an english version together as soon as i ran some errands07:30
Myrttioh, but you seem to be building your own community. How disappointing. If you had presented your issue with the same eloquence here as you did in that email, perhaps the mediation last night would have actually succeeded better07:31
Myrttibuilding the community from the inside and fixing the problems usually works better than cutting the community in pieces.07:33
Myrttioh well.07:33
GPenguinwell, no. i am not forking the community07:35
GPenguinlook at it as some kind of development team that is still launchpad'ing07:36
GPenguini did that to avoid, that people on #ubuntu-de are afraid of my ideas. so i can tell them "nothing changes if you dont like"07:37
MenZaGPenguin: Definitely a step-up from your behaviour yesterday. I'm glad you took the time to sit down and think everything over before applying; things like this mean a *lot* to the development of the community.07:43
MenZaGPenguin: And now you have something for the rest of the German LoCoTeam to work with! :)07:43
GPenguinyep!07:52
leche*sigh*08:13
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GPenguinMenZa: do you remember what leche said earlier? he already forgot about it completely08:24
GPenguinMyrtti: and thats why the community fork might be the only solution08:25
Myrttiit's never a solution08:25
GPenguinMyrtti: i joined a log bot to #ubuntu-de and the first thing leche does (instead of answering my mail') is:  you are off-topic and you are ban evading08:26
GPenguinhow retarded is that, please?08:26
Myrttisurely there already *is* a log bot08:26
GPenguinthese people are too immature and too much asperger to discuss my ideas08:26
Myrttithere goes that discussion then08:27
Myrttihave a nice day08:27
GPenguinyou too08:27
GPenguinbtw08:27
GPenguinthe first thing i saw in the morning was a kick from the #ubuntu-de-op channel "you are idle, that is not allowed here" when i was waiting there for feedback08:28
GPenguini think asperger syndrom is in fact an asshole syndrome08:28
GPenguinand yes, i know that i am angry right now08:28
GPenguini was writing texts for the last 10 hours and the reward is still the same: people punch your face08:29
GPenguinthey like to punch faces08:29
GPenguinbut they signed the code of conduct08:29
GPenguinand that is supposed to make many more people angry08:29
Myrttiso you decide it's ok to you too. How mature.08:29
GPenguinMyrtti: you are not even a native speaker to judge my mail properly08:30
MyrttiI see you call people asperger and assholes.08:30
GPenguinand the first reply was a kick from the op channel and second reply was about ban evasion08:30
MyrttiI don't judge you by the mail, I judge you by what I see here.08:30
GPenguinand you seriously wonder why people are angry on the internet?08:30
GPenguinthen you have a much bigger problem than asperger08:30
Myrttino, I don't, because you are making me angry too.08:30
GPenguinthen fuck off maybe, kick yourself offline :D08:31
MenZaEnough.08:31
MenZaGPenguin: We can't help you, nor can anyone else with that attitude. This discussion is over.08:31
GPenguinindeed, when people join teams for the sake of power and the ability to kick asses, then nobody can help but a community fork08:32
MenZaI already outlined yesterday that that is not the case. I've seen no wrongful conduct, and I suggest waiting for replies on the mailing list.08:33
GPenguinforget it MenZa08:33
GPenguinthe reply was a kick and a comment that i am ban evading08:33
GPenguinand you cry now because i am slowly getting out of control with these idiots08:34
GPenguinthe reward for a whole night of work08:34
lecheGPenguin: you have not been kicked yet, please dont tell lies :P08:35
lecheanyway, you show me that you have no interest to follow our rules, so gl with your project, i wont wast anymore time on you08:35
bazhangleche, he quit08:36
lecheah good08:36
Myrttileft rather08:36
MyrttiI started developing a stomach ulcer08:36
MenZaMyrtti: Run off, grab some tea and a bite to eat and relax before packing :)08:37
Myrttimy fridge is almost empty :-/08:37
* Myrtti goes to see what in it08:38
lechehehe08:40
lechethis guy..08:40
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Myrttithai curry it is then09:31
lechehum, tasty :)09:58
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Tm_TLovely day today! <314:36
* Tm_T huggles everyone14:36
vishhi folks , I'v been cloaked[ubuntu/member/] for a while now >  https://launchpad.net/~vish.../  but i havent been added to the cloaked members team?  there wouldnt be a problem later or anything right?14:39
vishthe wiki says "All cloaked people should be added to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks Launchpad team."14:39
Tm_Tjussi01: ^14:40
Picivish: odd.  I'll throw you in the team then.14:41
vishPici: ty :)14:42
Picivish: All set.14:42
vishthanks all..14:42
PiciThank you.14:43
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lechehmm, some people say they dont get a message from locobot (that the channel is logged)18:35
lecheany ideas?18:35
Picileche: Are the locobots supposed to pm people?  For the regular channels we use an entrymsg to let people know that the channel is logged.18:38
lechei meant entrymsg, yes18:39
Piciin #ubuntu-de?18:39
lecheyes18:39
lechei get the message18:39
PiciI got the message from the locobot, but the channel's entrymsg only has information about pasting and offtopic.18:41
PiciI wonder if people are not seeing the message because its a notice rather than a privmsg though,.18:42
lecheyes, im asking myself the same, they say theyve looked at all those things18:43
ninnnuDo they get the entrymsgs?18:44
ninnnuBecause they're notices, too..18:45
PiciOr you could try sending them a /notice with your own client to see if they get it18:45
lechehe sees my /notice18:47
lecheand the chanserv notice18:47
lechebut not the locobot /notice :D18:47
jussi01heh18:48
lechewell, we will put a hin into the topic18:48
lechehint though18:48
lecheor to the entrymsg of chanserv18:49
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