[00:01] <m4v> ubuntu also got a lot more user friendly these few years, problems like compiling nvdia drivers or getting compiz to work aren't frequent anymore :P
[00:04] <persia> I guess I shouldn't have said "difficult" problems, but perhaps just uncommon ones.
[00:04] <persia> The idea being to demonstrate that someone knows the system really well, rather than just repeating advice seen elsewhere.
[00:04] <persia> It's not critical, but I grant extra weight to people providing support who seem to have that (and assume others do as well)
[00:08] <leche> persia: i updated my page but support is in german, i dont know if the council can see what we talk about
[00:09] <persia> EMEA council has at least some folk who read German
[00:11] <leche> good, so, now i need to get some people tell some stuff about me and then i will apply :)
[01:22] <GPenguin> for those who care to read my german mail: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-de/2010-March/019860.html
[03:37] <IdleOne> Can I request that everybody check the factoid for your respective languages and please include the " /join #ubuntu-** " so that new users have an easier time joining the channels. Thank you :-)
[03:38] <IdleOne> I think it will make it much easier for new users to Ubuntu and irc to find the help they need quicker
[03:41] <IdleOne> Oh and feel free to submit any edits for other languages also.
[07:17] <leche> this post on the mailinglist seems to be well done
[07:19] <MenZa> leche: Which one?
[07:19] <leche> MenZa: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-de/2010-March/019860.html
[07:20] <leche> (from GPenguin)
[07:20] <GPenguin> leche: you are not ironic?
[07:22] <leche> GPenguin: no, im not
[07:22] <leche> GPenguin: its written in a respectful language.
[07:22] <leche> why should i? seems to be a good start for a conversation
[07:23] <leche> waaaaaaaaaaay better than your last 2 attempts
[07:24] <leche> ( i say seems cause im in a hurry and and just overflew it)
[07:24] <leche> will read it completly later.
[07:24] <leche> bb
[07:27] <Myrtti> meh, google translate refuses that page
[07:27] <leche> :/
[07:28] <GPenguin> Myrtti: maybe its not properly formatted in html, it was all a quick hack
[07:29] <Myrtti> no, it just refuses
[07:29] <Myrtti> lessee if babelfish succeeds
[07:30] <GPenguin> when enough people care within the german community, then i can try to put an english version together as soon as i ran some errands
[07:31] <Myrtti> oh, but you seem to be building your own community. How disappointing. If you had presented your issue with the same eloquence here as you did in that email, perhaps the mediation last night would have actually succeeded better
[07:33] <Myrtti> building the community from the inside and fixing the problems usually works better than cutting the community in pieces.
[07:33] <Myrtti> oh well.
[07:35] <GPenguin> well, no. i am not forking the community
[07:36] <GPenguin> look at it as some kind of development team that is still launchpad'ing
[07:37] <GPenguin> i did that to avoid, that people on #ubuntu-de are afraid of my ideas. so i can tell them "nothing changes if you dont like"
[07:43] <MenZa> GPenguin: Definitely a step-up from your behaviour yesterday. I'm glad you took the time to sit down and think everything over before applying; things like this mean a *lot* to the development of the community.
[07:43] <MenZa> GPenguin: And now you have something for the rest of the German LoCoTeam to work with! :)
[07:52] <GPenguin> yep!
[08:13] <leche> *sigh*
[08:24] <GPenguin> MenZa: do you remember what leche said earlier? he already forgot about it completely
[08:25] <GPenguin> Myrtti: and thats why the community fork might be the only solution
[08:25] <Myrtti> it's never a solution
[08:26] <GPenguin> Myrtti: i joined a log bot to #ubuntu-de and the first thing leche does (instead of answering my mail') is:  you are off-topic and you are ban evading
[08:26] <GPenguin> how retarded is that, please?
[08:26] <Myrtti> surely there already *is* a log bot
[08:26] <GPenguin> these people are too immature and too much asperger to discuss my ideas
[08:27] <Myrtti> there goes that discussion then
[08:27] <Myrtti> have a nice day
[08:27] <GPenguin> you too
[08:27] <GPenguin> btw
[08:28] <GPenguin> the first thing i saw in the morning was a kick from the #ubuntu-de-op channel "you are idle, that is not allowed here" when i was waiting there for feedback
[08:28] <GPenguin> i think asperger syndrom is in fact an asshole syndrome
[08:28] <GPenguin> and yes, i know that i am angry right now
[08:29] <GPenguin> i was writing texts for the last 10 hours and the reward is still the same: people punch your face
[08:29] <GPenguin> they like to punch faces
[08:29] <GPenguin> but they signed the code of conduct
[08:29] <GPenguin> and that is supposed to make many more people angry
[08:29] <Myrtti> so you decide it's ok to you too. How mature.
[08:30] <GPenguin> Myrtti: you are not even a native speaker to judge my mail properly
[08:30] <Myrtti> I see you call people asperger and assholes.
[08:30] <GPenguin> and the first reply was a kick from the op channel and second reply was about ban evasion
[08:30] <Myrtti> I don't judge you by the mail, I judge you by what I see here.
[08:30] <GPenguin> and you seriously wonder why people are angry on the internet?
[08:30] <GPenguin> then you have a much bigger problem than asperger
[08:30] <Myrtti> no, I don't, because you are making me angry too.
[08:31] <GPenguin> then fuck off maybe, kick yourself offline :D
[08:31] <MenZa> Enough.
[08:31] <MenZa> GPenguin: We can't help you, nor can anyone else with that attitude. This discussion is over.
[08:32] <GPenguin> indeed, when people join teams for the sake of power and the ability to kick asses, then nobody can help but a community fork
[08:33] <MenZa> I already outlined yesterday that that is not the case. I've seen no wrongful conduct, and I suggest waiting for replies on the mailing list.
[08:33] <GPenguin> forget it MenZa
[08:33] <GPenguin> the reply was a kick and a comment that i am ban evading
[08:34] <GPenguin> and you cry now because i am slowly getting out of control with these idiots
[08:34] <GPenguin> the reward for a whole night of work
[08:35] <leche> GPenguin: you have not been kicked yet, please dont tell lies :P
[08:35] <leche> anyway, you show me that you have no interest to follow our rules, so gl with your project, i wont wast anymore time on you
[08:36] <bazhang> leche, he quit
[08:36] <leche> ah good
[08:36] <Myrtti> left rather
[08:36] <Myrtti> I started developing a stomach ulcer
[08:37] <MenZa> Myrtti: Run off, grab some tea and a bite to eat and relax before packing :)
[08:37] <Myrtti> my fridge is almost empty :-/
[08:38]  * Myrtti goes to see what in it
[08:40] <leche> hehe
[08:40] <leche> this guy..
[09:31] <Myrtti> thai curry it is then
[09:58] <leche> hum, tasty :)
[14:36] <Tm_T> Lovely day today! <3
[14:36]  * Tm_T huggles everyone
[14:39] <vish> hi folks , I'v been cloaked[ubuntu/member/] for a while now >  https://launchpad.net/~vish.../  but i havent been added to the cloaked members team?  there wouldnt be a problem later or anything right?
[14:39] <vish> the wiki says "All cloaked people should be added to the ubuntu-irc-cloaks Launchpad team."
[14:40] <Tm_T> jussi01: ^
[14:41] <Pici> vish: odd.  I'll throw you in the team then.
[14:42] <vish> Pici: ty :)
[14:42] <Pici> vish: All set.
[14:42] <vish> thanks all..
[14:43] <Pici> Thank you.
[18:35] <leche> hmm, some people say they dont get a message from locobot (that the channel is logged)
[18:35] <leche> any ideas?
[18:38] <Pici> leche: Are the locobots supposed to pm people?  For the regular channels we use an entrymsg to let people know that the channel is logged.
[18:39] <leche> i meant entrymsg, yes
[18:39] <Pici> in #ubuntu-de?
[18:39] <leche> yes
[18:39] <leche> i get the message
[18:41] <Pici> I got the message from the locobot, but the channel's entrymsg only has information about pasting and offtopic.
[18:42] <Pici> I wonder if people are not seeing the message because its a notice rather than a privmsg though,.
[18:43] <leche> yes, im asking myself the same, they say theyve looked at all those things
[18:44] <ninnnu> Do they get the entrymsgs?
[18:45] <ninnnu> Because they're notices, too..
[18:45] <Pici> Or you could try sending them a /notice with your own client to see if they get it
[18:47] <leche> he sees my /notice
[18:47] <leche> and the chanserv notice
[18:47] <leche> but not the locobot /notice :D
[18:48] <jussi01> heh
[18:48] <leche> well, we will put a hin into the topic
[18:48] <leche> hint though
[18:49] <leche> or to the entrymsg of chanserv