[03:37] <Flannel> !uk
[03:40] <genii> !ca
[03:41] <genii> Isn't it #ubuntu-ca-qc ?
[03:43] <Flannel> Nope
[06:08] <Gryllida> hello, i found a bad line in ubottu's output... i typed "@lart ubottu for some reason"... and got some impolite thing.
[06:08] <Gryllida> I think this line should be removed from ubottu's database: "ubottu pours hot grits down the front of Gryllida's pants", since some members of channel may be say 7 years old, or just me doesn't like it
[06:10] <Gryllida> what do you think about it?
[06:12]  * persia ponders if ubottu benefits from @lart and @praise given it's increasingly specialised role
[06:15] <elky> Gryllida, @lart has a percentage chance of backfiring. It's a feature.
[06:16] <persia> I think the issue isn't with @lart backfiring, so much as interpretations of the language used in @larts
[06:17]  * persia may be overinterpreting
[06:17] <Gryllida> but.. channel guidelines, "members should respect each other", while that line is entirely offensive in my opinion... i don't mind having ubuntu "replaced" with vista, but this one is really odd
[06:18] <elky> Are you familiar with the LART concept, or just using a command that you've seen others use to make the bot do stuff?
[06:18] <Gryllida> I am familiar with the command, yes.
[06:19] <elky> So you're aware LART stands for "Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool".
[06:19] <Gryllida> I know, but Ubuntu is widely used in educational purposes in Africa, children might come to #ubuntu-bots , and see that bad thing
[06:20] <Myrtti> very unlikely
[06:21] <elky> Gryllida, then you'd best not utilise the LART plugin in #ubuntu-bots
[06:22] <Gryllida> it is very scientific. now I know what AOL, emacs are
[06:24] <Gryllida> I also learned about "reverse polish notation" and "Total Perspective Vortex"...
[06:24] <Gryllida> and so on, but this is off topic. just I wanted to say about that odd line?
[06:25] <elky> Well you've expressed your opinion on the matter. I'm sure the bot admins will note it when they wake or whatever. Thanks.
[06:26] <Gryllida> Thanks for attention. Good-bye.
[06:28] <elky> Now why is it I recall that nick...
[06:31] <persia> Was in either here or -irc recently about stuff.
[06:31] <elky> Oh. Right. BobGreenwill
[06:31] <persia> Oh right.
[06:32] <elky> The joker pretending to be a bot then blaming the pretending to be a bot on some random housemate installing viruses in his chatzilla. Or something like that.
[06:32] <indus> hi
[06:33] <indus> please someone keep an eye in #ubuntu, user trouble
[06:33] <elky> Hi?
[06:33] <elky> Ok.
[06:34] <elky> I can't quite grasp using something one knows as a "Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool" and expecting it to be "respectful" though...
[06:34] <Myrtti> I must be blind but I can't see any user trouble in #ubuntu
[06:35] <genii> Myrtti: Just some friction with indus and perscitus
[06:35] <elky> Myrtti, persicitus. Not giving info then telling people off for trying to help
[06:35] <Myrtti> perscitus must be the user but....
[06:35] <elky> someone needs to take indus aside for his daily cluebatting though
[06:36] <elky> perscitus does kinda need an attitude readjustment too.
[06:48] <Myrtti> how much is 254^2? *calculates*
[06:48] <persia> 64516 : bc is your friend
[06:48] <Myrtti> I'm tempted to do a ban on 95.66.*
[06:49] <Myrtti> it would affect only... 64516 possible users...
[06:49] <Myrtti> but so far I've seen only onjoin spambots from there
[06:50] <Myrtti> other opinions welcome
[06:52] <Myrtti> right, time to get crackin. Need to finish off my cleaning and packing.
[06:54] <persia> Myrtti: That includes bunches of different AS registrations.  I suspect there's something narrower you want.
[06:55] <persia> http://www.robtex.com/bnet/95.66.html
[06:55] <Myrtti> I know there is, but I've not yet found out how to do bans to such ip address spaces
[06:57] <persia> Hrm.  Seems to be a glob match against a string with no interpretation :(
[06:57] <Myrtti> indeed
[06:57] <persia> Which bugtracker tracks this stuff?
[06:58] <Myrtti> which stuff, bans or how to ban?
[06:58] <persia> The software that interprets our bans.
[06:59] <persia> (which would need to be taught about CIDR notation for IP ranges.
[06:59] <Myrtti> I guess http://dev.freenode.net/ircd-seven/report
[07:01]  * persia can't figure out how to file a bug :(
[07:02] <Myrtti> perhaps you can't...
[07:03] <Myrtti> anyway, I need to start or I'll board the plane in my pajamas holding a toothbrush
[07:03] <persia> Have a good flight.
[07:03] <Myrtti> it's not due for another 14 hours, but I've not packed yet :-D
[07:04] <MenZa> Where's Myrtti going?
[07:04] <Myrtti> UK and from there to Silicon Valley
[07:04] <MenZa> persia: Login first.
[07:04] <MenZa> Myrtti: Oooh. Have a good flight!
[07:04] <MenZa> I'll be waving as you go over Denmark!
[07:04] <Myrtti> MenZa: first ryanair and then next week virgin atlantic in coach :-/
[07:04] <MenZa> owowowowow
[07:05] <MenZa> I despise RyanAir.
[07:05]  * Myrtti has stashed up on painkillers
[07:05] <MenZa> I don't know Virgin well, but RyanAir are baaad
[07:05] <Myrtti> oh, but for me it's the best way of going to where I am going, both airports are close
[07:05]  * MenZa nods
[07:05] <MenZa> I'm just 194cm tall, and Ryanair don't really have that much leg room...
[07:05] <Myrtti> and with the amount of flying I do to UK...
[07:05] <Myrtti> hehe
[07:06] <Myrtti> I'm just a stump, 163
[07:06] <persia> MenZa: What are my authentication credentials?
[07:06] <MenZa> persia: Good ... question
[07:06] <Myrtti> anyway, in hopes that the flight isn't canceled due to lack of petrol or refueling staff, I need to start this days errands.
[07:06] <MenZa> persia: Ask in #freenode?
[07:07] <MenZa> Myrtti: Enjoy. If we speak before you go, see you then. If not, have a good flight. :)
[07:07]  * persia isn't sufficiently motivated and hasn't slept for too many hours to follow a long track right now
[07:08] <jussi01> grumble
[07:08] <jussi01> Im trying to work out what of oOo I have running... :(
[07:09] <MenZa> jussi01: ooffice --version?
[07:09] <MenZa> Or Help -> About!
[07:09] <jussi01> MenZa: no... no...
[07:09] <MenZa> whut
[07:09] <Myrtti> ps axu | grep oo
[07:09] <jussi01> ? OpenOffice.org running!                                                                                                                    ?
[07:09] <jussi01>        ?                                                                                                                                            ?
[07:09] <jussi01>        ? OpenOffice.org is running right now. A running OpenOffice.org makes extension (de-)registration not possible and it causes problems with   ?
[07:09] <jussi01>        ? (de-)registering components.
[07:09] <jussi01> ? Please close OpenOffice.org (including an eventually running Quickstarter).
[07:09] <MenZa> Oh, ow.
[07:10] <jussi01> Myrtti: did that already, I cant find anything
[07:10] <Myrtti> then you have a lockfile somewhere
[07:10] <MenZa> oo...lock files?!
[07:10] <jussi01> Configuring openoffice.org-emailmerge...
[07:11] <MenZa> jussi01: Any tentative IRC planning to be done for Lucid+1 UDS?
[07:11] <Myrtti> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/512194 good luck
[07:11] <jussi01> MenZa: yeah, some. however we need to get through this cycles stuff first
[07:12] <MenZa> jussi01: I might try and attend UDS for that and my GRUB boot plans.
[07:12] <MenZa> Belgium should be close enough for that.
[07:13] <Myrtti> I hate you people, you're giving me a reason to procrastinate
[07:13] <Myrtti> *ngh*
[07:29] <MenZa> :P
[07:29] <MenZa> <3 you too, Myrtti :)=
[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:21] <knome> morning dholbach
[08:23] <dholbach> hi knome
[08:30] <MenZa> Myrtti: Just let him rant; we've already exhausted our options with him. He's presented his case, and I should say it's now up to the LoCo to discuss it further.
[08:30] <MenZa> Morning dholbach
[08:30] <dholbach> hi MenZa
[08:31] <Myrtti> .........
[08:31] <Flannel> Myrtti: ...... indeed!
[08:32] <MenZa> dholbach: Sorry to bother you about this, but what on *earth* is so evil about the German LoCoteam?
[08:32]  * MenZa sighs.
[08:33] <dholbach> what are you talking about?
[08:33] <dholbach> you sound a bit frustrated
[08:33] <jussi01> dholbach: have a read back on the -irc logs
[08:33] <MenZa> dholbach: /w 22
[08:33] <MenZa> err.
[08:33] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/02/%23ubuntu-irc.html
[08:33] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/03/%23ubuntu-irc.html
[08:33] <jussi01> MenZa: has been doing an amazing job in there
[08:33] <dholbach> can you give me a brief summary?
[08:34] <bazhang> ^^
[08:35] <MenZa> dholbach: GPenguin is not happy with the "elitist" conduct he describes goes on in -de, rants in -irc for a while yesterday, eventually writes a great, down-to-earth summary to -de@lists (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-de/2010-March/019860.html), seems to have moments of clarity, and several moments of ranting
[08:35] <Myrtti> I think the situation calls for classical music, or I'll start breaking plates
[08:35] <MenZa> Myrtti: Classical music it is!
[08:36] <jussi01> I dont get the whole aspergers thing... ?
[08:36] <Myrtti> he thinks it's a good description of the people
[08:36] <jussi01> its sad that things like this come out: [10:29:12] <GPenguin> i think asperger syndrom is in fact an asshole syndrome
[08:37] <MenZa> He's already admitted to being a schizophreniac. *shrug*
[08:37] <dholbach> the mail that you quote is a bit weird because he talks about all kinds of stuff and not exclusively about the tone in german irc channels
[08:38] <MenZa> dholbach: I noticed
[08:38] <dholbach> but interests of ubuntu fans, how to get involved, and all the rest of it
[08:39] <dholbach> the best way forward to me looks like isolating the various issues and having a chat about what works and what doesn't work on IRC
[08:39] <dholbach> get the German LoCo team admins/contacts involved and if that doesn't work, maybe ask the LoCo Council and IRC Council for advice
[08:39] <MenZa> We had a rather long discussion in -irc yesterday, which seemed to yield some results. It was suggested he took it up with the mailing list, which he's done
[08:39] <dholbach> it doesn't make sense to have a long and convoluted debate about everything because you loose almost everybody along the way
[08:40] <dholbach> right, but the thread doesn't seem to go anywhere
[08:40] <MenZa> leche also agreed to add the attitude problem to the next -de-ops meeting
[08:40] <dholbach> and is about the "world and everything" right now :)
[08:40] <dholbach> MenZa: ah super
[08:40] <dholbach> that sounds good to me
[08:40] <MenZa> yeah
[08:40] <dholbach> and there's a clear line how to escalate further if that doesn't yield any results
[08:40] <dholbach> and we have lots of people with lots of experience around
[08:40] <dholbach> which is good
[08:40] <MenZa> All in all, I left the meeting yesterday with a very, very good feeling in my stomach that this would be resolved.
[08:41] <MenZa> I'm still positive it will! :)
[08:41] <dholbach> ROCK! That's how we like it! :)
[08:41]  * dholbach goes to the other part of the building to fetch a coffee - the kitchen in the part where my office is is not set up yet :)
[08:42] <MenZa> ouch
[08:42]  * MenZa slides dholbach a large thermos
[08:42] <dholbach> MenZa: to be fair it's a 1 minute walk if you're in a hurry, 2 minutes if you have an old dog you have to wait for :)
[08:42] <MenZa> still!
[08:42] <MenZa> I find walking downstairs is bad sometimes. ;)
[08:43] <dholbach> haha
[08:43] <dholbach> see you in a bit :-)
[08:43] <MenZa> \o
[10:46] <Myrtti> niko: laurelin hit #ubuntu
[10:46] <bazhang> whoa floodbot pre-emptively banned the spammer
[10:46] <Myrtti> not pre-emptively
[10:52] <Myrtti> niko: andeana too
[11:52] <maxo> hi, I'm trying to join #ubuntu but it says I'm banned? What can I do?
[11:54] <Myrtti> hi, let's see
[11:55] <bazhang> as rodger238?
[11:56] <bazhang> Ihatejennifer spam links
[11:57] <Myrtti> older bans include dcc attacks and notice spam with vulgar language
[11:58] <Myrtti> maxo: do you know anything of these issues?
[12:02] <maxo> Myrtti: no, I've never had problems joining #ubuntu
[12:05] <maxo> and I've never done any of these issues
[12:17] <bazhang> rodger238@76.73.16.26 maxo that's you correct?
[12:28] <Myrtti> cgi-irc?
[12:28] <Myrtti> ^_____o
[12:28] <Daviey> web based irc client
[12:29] <Myrtti> Daviey: orly
[12:32] <jussi01> Daviey: I repeat the call for kubuntu blue! :D
[12:32] <Daviey> jussi01: it's funny, pre Ubuntu my wardrobe was mainly blue :)
[12:33] <jussi01> hehe
[12:33] <jussi01> you went to the dark side.... :P
[12:34] <Daviey> i'll make my choice at the end of the day :)
[12:56] <jussi01> Daviey: although theres always suse green :P
[13:07] <Daviey> green i could go for, suse i couldn't :)
[13:44] <topyli> Daviey, foresight!
[13:50] <knome> hey Daviey!
[13:52] <Daviey> hey knome, i guess you got back ok?
[13:52] <Daviey> it was good seeing you.
[13:56] <knome> yeah, was back yesterday.
[13:56] <knome> great seeing you too.
[13:56] <knome> so how was your train?
[14:11] <Tm_T> I was reading "how was your brain?"
[14:12] <knome> Tm_T, well i'm watching monty python so that would make pretty much sense
[14:12] <bazhang> hah
[14:12] <Tm_T> ofourse that makes sense
[14:15] <Daviey> knome: uneventful, boring, etc :)
[14:17] <knome> hehe
[14:23] <popey> 13:07:32 <+Daviey> green i could go for, suse i couldn't :)
[14:23] <popey> I have a green Ubuntu T-shirt :)
[14:23] <Daviey> not _that_ green, thanks :)
[14:24] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/28092009305.jpg
[14:24] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/28092009306.jpg
[14:24] <popey> :)
[14:28] <ikonia> what's the t-shirt talk ?
[14:29] <knome> Daviey needs non-brown clothes
[14:29] <ikonia> wash them more often ?
[14:30] <knome> ikonia, as in http://blog.daviey.com/
[14:31] <knome> btw Daviey, the layout is borked
[14:31]  * Daviey knows this :)
[14:31] <knome> do you know how to fix it?
[14:31] <knome> :)
[14:31] <Daviey> fixed width fail :)
[14:32] <Myrtti> I have a SuSE shirt
[14:33] <Pici> I have a tux penguin with a drug company's name on it.
[15:07] <jussi01> ikonia: fantastic news... package arrived today!
[15:11] <ikonia> jussi01: today ?/???
[15:11] <ikonia> jussi01: that's errrrrrrr 11 days late ?
[15:11] <jussi01> ikonia: yeah, I think it was sitting in the post office for ages and they screwed up our letterbox...
[15:12] <ikonia> still poor show :(
[15:12] <ikonia> is it what you expected/acceptable ?
[15:12] <Myrtti> what are you dealing to him, Cathedral City cheddar?
[15:12] <Myrtti> :-D
[15:12] <Tm_T> Myrtti: pribes
[15:12] <ikonia> Myrtti: too good for him
[15:12] <jussi01> ikonia: not tasted it yet, Ill go round and taste it with him
[15:13] <ikonia> look "ok" though ?
[15:13] <ikonia> remember to tell him it's from a Private reserve of a respected Scottish family - it sweetens the taste ;)
[15:14] <jussi01> ikonia: yeah, I will. looks perfect
[15:14] <jussi01> Im off now for some whiskey tastin! :D
[15:14] <ikonia> good, that's what I was hoping for, half the taste is in the eye
[15:15]  * jussi01 is extremely excited
[15:16] <jussi01> ok, laters
[15:16] <ikonia> enjoy
[16:07] <kkathman> Good day folks
[17:34] <ikonia> can someone please keep an eye on aladb - he's cross-posting the same "tell me about linux" in tons of channels, he's been given the answers in offtopic but bascially wants someone to write this book for him
[17:46] <Pici> again?
[17:48] <Pici> !staff
[17:49] <Pici> well, looks like they left, nevermind.
[17:51] <knome> :P
[18:01] <jussi01> ikonia: whiskey was amazing.
[18:02] <jussi01> tangy, slightly metalic foretaste, with a smooth, clean aftertaste. rock on!
[18:02] <jussi01> ikonia: do you know specifically where it is from?
[18:02] <knome> heh
[18:03] <jussi01> knome: ?
[18:03] <knome> metallic foretaste is heh
[20:26] <jussi01> kkathman: standing meetings, usually reminded on the -irc ml. more info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda
[20:27] <kkathman> thank you jussi01
[20:28] <kkathman> jussi01:  Meetings take place on the second Saturday of each month at 20:00 UTC and on the last Sunday of each month at 18:00 UTC
[20:28] <Tm_T> good night all, hugs and cuddles
[20:28] <kkathman> but yet I think the meeting was today a few hours ago?
[20:29] <jussi01> kkathman: ?
[20:29] <jussi01> meeting today?
[20:29] <kkathman> Confused I suppose from the wiki.
[20:29] <jussi01> which meeting today?
[20:30] <jussi01> kkathman: please look at the date in the email subject if you are talking about the minutes I sent.
[20:30] <kkathman> jussi01:  I got the minutes today of a meeting yesterday, sorry
[20:30] <kkathman> I see.sorry nver mind...I should subscribe to the irc list I suppose
[20:31] <Tm_T> (:
[20:32] <jussi01> kkathman: if you got the minutes, you should be already subscribed, no?
[20:32] <kkathman> Can someone please provide the page to subscribe to the -irc ml.... Tm_T or jussi01 ?
[20:32] <kkathman> Ahh perhaps...I did several subscriptions LOL
[20:32] <jussi01> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-irc
[20:32] <kkathman> sorry - been a busy day today here....very busy - not thinking particularly straight
[20:33] <jussi01> :)
[20:58] <ikonia> jussi01: glad you enjoyed it, I'll get you details of the family reserve
[21:06] <topyli> can we please remove @lart?
[21:06] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[21:06] <ikonia> yes
[21:10] <ikonia> kaolbrec is trying to provoke $something
[21:10] <guntbert> hi, can someone with spanish knowledge try to talk to nahiara in #ubuntu - insists on talking spanish
[21:11] <ikonia> guntbert: lets see
[21:11] <guntbert> ikonia: thx
[22:35] <niko> i guess you should take a look at kosst_