[00:06] <SiNiESTrO> somebody?
[00:08] <Ursinha> SiNiESTrO: I don't know this answer by heart, but if you can't find this info in launchpad docs, I'd recommend you to ask that in http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:08] <Ursinha> SiNiESTrO: and I guess someone will complement our docs with that
[00:08] <SiNiESTrO> Ok, thanks anyway ;)
[00:08] <Ursinha> and answer you, of course :):
[00:10] <wgrant> SiNiESTrO: Members don't have any extra rights; they're just an informative field. The maintainer is pretty much the owner -- they have edit rights over lots of stuff. The driver is the release manager, and can milestone and perform other release actions. Mirror admins can administer a distribution's mirrors. Uploaders are a subset of those that can upload packages to a distribution.
[00:11] <SiNiESTrO> Oh thank you!
[00:11] <SiNiESTrO> I understand now ;)
[00:12] <crimsun> hmm.
[00:13] <crimsun> I'm looking to grab one specific (identically named via apport) attachment from all Ubuntu bugs that have it. Is there a feasible way to do this?
[00:14] <crimsun> (the driver is to automate the patching of volume dB discrepancies in the HDA intel driver, which can be done in a straightforward manner)
[00:14] <wgrant> Oh dear.
[00:16] <wgrant> crimsun: You would have to grab each bug, then iterate over each one's attachment collection until you found an attachment with the right name.
[00:16] <wgrant> So, no.
[00:16] <crimsun> drat.
[00:16] <crimsun> oh well, um, gmail to the rescue?
[00:16] <wgrant> Unless you can coerce somebody to run the SQL for you, which is not implausible.
[00:17] <lifeless> crimsun: are the bugs on a single package?
[00:18] <lifeless> or a constrainted set of packages?
[00:18] <lifeless> crimsun: liblaunchpad should do a decent job for you
[00:18] <crimsun> lifeless: for the most part, alsa-driver or linux
[00:40] <flacoste_ipod> Thumper around?
[00:41] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: yep
[00:41] <mwhudson> flacoste_ipod: hi
[00:41] <flacoste_ipod> Sorry rAn out of minutes
[00:41] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: it seems the read only was hitting some of the wrond dbs causing deadlocks in the slony replication
[00:41] <flacoste_ipod> I sent you an Email with a friend nimber
[00:42] <flacoste_ipod> Did you call stub?
[00:42] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: a rolling restart has got the replication unblocked AFAICS
[00:42] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: I tried
[00:42] <flacoste_ipod> Ok, is it moving on, nos?
[00:42] <flacoste_ipod> Nos
[00:43] <flacoste_ipod> Fucking iPod autocompletion
[00:43] <flacoste_ipod> Now
[00:44] <thumper> it seems to be
[00:46] <flacoste_ipod> Thumper did you get the Email?
[00:46] <thumper> yep
[00:46] <flacoste_ipod> Ok call me on the number if anything comes up again
[00:46] <flacoste_ipod> Food is served
[00:47] <thumper> ok
[01:11] <flacoste_ipod> thumper: what's the score?
[01:11] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: running the security.py script now
[01:11] <thumper> flacoste_ipod: slaves updated
[01:11] <flacoste_ipod> thumper: Cool that's good news!
[01:11] <thumper> :)
[01:12] <flacoste_ipod> Going backgammon to donner
[01:12] <thumper> heh
[01:13] <thumper> I'm sure that should get quoted
[01:24] <wgrant> Is LP still going to be back in half an hour?
[01:29] <elmo> wgrant: that or sooner
[01:30] <wgrant> elmo: Excellent. Thanks.
[02:26] <mkanat> gmb: You may be happy to hear that in the next release of Bugzilla (3.6), the WebServices API takes and returns all times in UTC.
[03:09] <jamalta> is the launchpad send report from ubuntu-bug working?
[03:10] <jamalta> i've been waiting with a "Please wait while bug data is processed" message for about 30 mins now
[03:10] <wgrant> LOSAs: Is the blob processing job running?
[03:10] <spm> not yet
[03:10] <wgrant> That's pretty important...
[03:11] <jamalta> lol
[03:11] <spm> so's all the other stuff I'm fixing :-)
[03:11] <wgrant> Well, it's now just about impossible to file bugs about Ubuntu.
[03:12] <mwhudson> should make the ubuntu devs life a lot easier!
[03:12] <wgrant> This is true.
[03:12] <jamalta> haha
[03:12] <wgrant> Hm, I just got a 502.
[03:15] <spm> edge? I'm cowboying in a fix and bouncing them atm; you may have just got unlucky?
[03:39] <spm> jamalta: are you still in waiting limbo? that should be sorting itself out atm
[03:41] <spm> woo. 2010-03-04 03:41:18 INFO    Ran 312 IProcessApportBlobJobSource jobs.
[03:56] <jamalta> spm: no it's done! thanks :)
[03:56] <spm> excellent. ta for getting back to me!
[03:57] <jamalta> spm: no problem, thanks for getting the issue solved!
[03:58] <spm> heh; more like finally getting around to the post rollout task that added that functionality. ;-D
[03:59] <jamalta> ;)
[04:00] <jamalta> so was parsing the uploads moved to a different process now? or has it always been like that
[05:41] <wgrant> jamalta: It was moved to a different process. Before 10.02 it was processed as part of the page rendering process. But since the old one was taking too long for big uploads and causing timeouts, it was moved to a background script that runs regularly.
[05:46] <jamalta> wgrant: ah cool, nice to know.. thanks :)
[10:43] <Lord-Readman> Any idea when the import que will go down? or is it broken
[10:43] <Lord-Readman> still waiting for imports from the 2nd
[10:48] <mrevell> Hey jtv, are you around to answer Lord-Readman
[10:49] <jtv> hi
[10:49] <Lord-Readman> hi
[10:49] <jtv> Lord-Readman: as a matter of fact I just figured out the missing piece of information:
[10:49] <jtv> your uploads are for Lucid
[10:49] <Lord-Readman> yup
[10:49] <jtv> and those 30K new imports that hit the queue just before yours were also for Lucid
[10:49] <jtv> ...and so you're simply at the back of the queue!
[10:49] <jtv> I thought they were for a project
[10:50] <Lord-Readman> ok, so how long will it take for 30,000 to go through?
[10:50] <Lord-Readman> so I know alot of people are trying to get translations in for beta1
[10:50] <jtv> If you look at https://translations.launchpad.net/+imports you'll see the current queue
[10:50] <Lord-Readman> in order?
[10:50] <jtv> A lot?  You can say that again!
[10:50] <jtv> Yes, within the queue of all Lucid uploads, imports are done in-order.
[10:51] <jtv> They're going through at a nice clip, but there's just a lot of them.
[10:53] <Lord-Readman> how has JR done so many translations so fast
[10:53] <Lord-Readman> either im missing something or its spam
[10:54] <jtv> Lord-Readman: nothing so dramatic, I think
[10:54] <Lord-Readman> No i dont think that either
[10:54] <jtv> Probably just a bunch of package uploads that were built in Soyuz, which produced a whole lot of translations uploads.
[10:55] <jtv> But whoo!  Some 20K obsolete entries did just drop off the needs-review queue, as planned.  At least that's one less thing to worry about.
[10:57] <Lord-Readman> hahaha
[10:57] <Lord-Readman> mine are either next
[10:57] <Lord-Readman> or last
[10:57] <Lord-Readman> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+imports/+index?start=25100&batch=50
[10:58] <Lord-Readman> oh wait
[10:58] <Lord-Readman> those were the ones i did today
[11:01] <mrevell> thekorn_, ping
[11:09] <thekorn_> mrevell: hey
[11:11] <mrevell> Oh hi thekorn_, I've just sent you an email.
[11:11] <jtv> Lord-Readman: yours were about 2010-03-02 20:00 UTC, right?
[11:11] <Lord-Readman> 23:00
[11:12] <jtv> UTC?
[11:13] <thekorn_> mrevell: very good idea, I can look into it over the weekend
[11:13] <mrevell> thekorn_, Thanks, that would be great.
[11:13] <jtv> Lord-Readman: that's 23:00 UTC right?
[11:15]  * thekorn_ is at the cebit today, running around wearing his launchpad shirt ;)
[11:20] <jtv> Lord-Readman: that places about 15,450 entries in front of you I'm afraid.  It'll take days to process that much.
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> oh, so the our goals on trying to complete translations for Lucid fly out the window due then
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> least we know
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> I will change all the targets to 10.10
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> to save disappointment
[11:21] <Lord-Readman> thanks
[11:22] <Lord-Readman> BTW what server / servers does launchpad run on
[11:22] <Lord-Readman> is it a cloud?
[11:25] <slytherin> I am trying to import the bugs from SF to LP. How to I verify that the xml files is valid as per schema?
[11:27] <doctormo> lfaraone: I finally got a response from upstream python-xdg, apparently upstream has dropped the development of it, I'm asking if I can take over.
[11:38] <danilos> Lord-Readman, it usually doesn't take more than a few days to go through ~20k files, so yours should be imported soon
[11:40] <slytherin> Lord-Readman: No it is not a cloud.
[11:40] <Lord-Readman> kk
[11:40] <Lord-Readman> just one box?
[11:43] <danilos> jtv, fyi, last time we had ~39k files to import, we did 32k in <2 days (as for the rest, by that time we probably started getting more uploads)
[11:44] <jtv> danilos: this time the graph seems to be a lot flatter than that though, perhaps because of server load
[11:44] <danilos> jtv, it's generally slower because of message sharing merge script runs, and it depends on the type of files
[11:47] <jtv> danilos: that's what I was thinking of...  I guess the Combined graph is hiding a lot of the speed
[11:47] <jtv> danilos: btw we finally got rid of those obsolete needs-review messages.  Instant 20% queue shrinkage.
[11:48] <danilos> jtv, nice :)
[11:48] <jtv> Well, I *hope* that's what that massive deletion was about  :-)
[12:08] <soren> jelmer: What's the problem with ASF repos?
[12:09] <jelmer> soren: They blocked our IP since we were hitting their servers pretty hard
[12:09] <soren> jelmer: Aha!
[12:10] <soren> jelmer: That explains why I couldn't for the life of me reproduce the error launchpad was giving :)
[12:10] <jelmer> soren: (-:
[12:11] <soren> jelmer: How about their git repos? Do they work?
[12:12]  * soren tries
[12:13] <jelmer> soren: I think they should but haven't tried.
[12:14] <soren> jelmer: Alright, no worries. Thanks.
[12:33] <mpt> Push branch to Launchpad
[12:33] <mpt> On Launchpad bug report page, link the branch
[12:34] <mpt> On Launchpad bug report page, assign bug to me and mark it as In Progress
[12:34] <mpt> On branch page, propose it for merging into trunk
[12:35] <mpt> Can any of those steps be combined?
[12:38] <beuno> mpt, you can commit --fixes=lp:BUG#
[12:38] <beuno> and when the branch gets scanned
[12:38] <beuno> it'll get linked
[12:38] <mpt> ah, brilliant
[12:39] <Daviey> doesn't debcommit automatically do this for bug numbers mentioned in debian/changelog ?
[12:39] <beuno> Daviey, for packages, yes
[12:39] <mpt> beuno, should I report a bug about doing the In-Progress thing as well?
[12:39] <mpt> beuno, oh, whoops, you're not on LP any more. :-)
[12:39] <Daviey> beuno: ahh, this is non-package stuff
[12:40] <beuno> mpt, you can try. I'm not super sure it will fly because of those use-cases where it's not what you want
[12:41] <beuno> it would match well with my workflow
[12:41] <mpt> beuno, I'm thinking assign it to you and mark as In Progress *unless* its already assigned to someone else
[12:43] <beuno> mpt, I like that
[12:45] <mpt> wow, that's interesting
[12:45] <mpt> "bugnumber.<newline>2." got auto-linked to (the non-existent) bug 2
[12:45]  * mpt pats ubottu on the head
[12:46] <wgrant> It ignores newlines so that line wrapping doesn't break links.
[12:46] <wgrant> But the . is odd.
[12:48] <mpt> and linking "bugnumber" anything is odd
[13:32] <Breaking_Pitt> when you are running the launchpad rocketsetup script it ask for a launchpad username
[13:32] <Breaking_Pitt> what is the username?
[13:32] <Breaking_Pitt> the mail account that you use in the launchpad.net site?
[13:36] <salgado> Breaking_Pitt, your Launchpad ID.  the name that appears in the URL when you're at your profile page
[13:37] <Breaking_Pitt> ~pedgarrod without the ~
[13:37] <Breaking_Pitt> it says that no ssh keys have found?
[13:37] <Breaking_Pitt> what means this?
[13:38] <Breaking_Pitt> it's necesary to install it on my machine?
[13:38] <salgado> Breaking_Pitt, you need to upload your ssh key to Launchpad
[13:38] <Breaking_Pitt> in order to download launchpad from bazaar repository?
[13:42] <salgado> Breaking_Pitt, looks like it; what's the error message you get?
[13:43] <Breaking_Pitt> seems that my vm has died
[13:43] <Breaking_Pitt> so i will start again
[13:43] <Breaking_Pitt> now that I seem to know all that i nedd
[13:43] <Breaking_Pitt> need
[14:02] <slytherin> need a bit help with bug history import.
[14:03] <slytherin> How can I verify that the XML is valid and contains all info? The XML schema url given on help page does not look valid.
[14:09] <Breaking_Pitt> salgado, I'm getting this error
[14:09] <Breaking_Pitt> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[14:12] <salgado> Breaking_Pitt, maybe just try again?
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> Logging bzr into Launchpad (it's okay if this errors)...
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> Making local branch of Launchpad trunk, this may take a while...
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.90.11)' can't be established.
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> RSA key fingerprint is 9d:38:3a:63:b1:d5:6f:c4:44:67:53:49:2e:ee:fc:89.
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> Warning: Permanently added 'bazaar.launchpad.net,91.189.90.11' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> Permission denied (publickey).
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[14:13] <Breaking_Pitt> ERROR: Unable to create local copy of Rocketfuel trunk
[14:14] <Breaking_Pitt> sorry for the copy/paste
[14:14] <Breaking_Pitt> sorry
[14:30] <slytherin> is anyone available to answer some doubts about bug import feature?
[14:30] <intellectronica> slytherin: sure, what's the question?
[14:31] <Breaking_Pitt> I have found the problem, salgado
[14:31] <Breaking_Pitt> the ssh keys
[14:31] <slytherin> intellectronica: I am trying to create the import file in XML format as specified on launchpad help pages. There are some attachments from previous bug tracker. How to provide them for import?
[14:32] <intellectronica> hmmm ... i don't even know if that's possible
[14:32] <intellectronica> gmb: do you know if there's a way to attach files in a bug import? ^^^^^
[14:33] <gmb> slytherin, intellectronica: It *should* be possible, IIRC. However, I don't know for certain right now.
[14:33] <gmb> slytherin: Can you file a question about it at http://answers.launchapd.net/malone
[14:33] <gmb> And I'll try to find out for you.
[14:33] <intellectronica> slytherin: we can check for you, but probably not immediately. would you mind filing a question?
[14:34] <intellectronica> oh, i'm redundant
[14:34] <slytherin> gmb: intellectronica: The format specified here has tag 'attachment' but it expects the attachment contents to be part of the XML. https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/ImportFormat
[14:34] <slytherin> I don't mind uploading attachment manually after bug import.
[14:36] <gmb> slytherin: Is there a problem with including the attachment in the XML?
[14:36] <slytherin> gmb: a bit tidious, I will have to convert the content to base64.
[14:37] <gmb> slytherin: Well you have the option of that or manually performing every upload.
[14:37] <gmb> slytherin: Forget filing the question, btw, you've just answered it yourself :)
[14:37] <slytherin> gmb: I will go with manual upload. There aren't many attachments.
[14:37] <slytherin> gmb: By the way, where can I download the schema for validation of XML with xmllint?
[14:39] <gmb> slytherin: There isn't an XML version of the schema. You should validate it against the RNG schema at https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/ImportFormat. (Though I'm afraid I can't remember what tool you use to do that; I know there is one, however).
[14:39] <slytherin> gmb: I believe xmllint can use RNG schema.
[14:40] <gmb> Fair enough.
[14:41] <slytherin> gmb: Isn't this schema anywhere in downloadable format?
[14:41] <gmb> slytherin: It's available as part of the LP tree; I'll paste it to the ubuntu pastebin for you, hang on...
[14:41] <slytherin> great
[14:42] <ahasenack> are you guys experiencing some weirdness with launchpad's openid login? Among other things, I just got this when filing a bug: "Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication."
[14:42] <gmb> slytherin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/388294/
[14:43] <ahasenack> and that's a blank page with just that text, no styles, no oops
[14:47] <ahasenack> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/45191/screenshot_001_cQA5eu.png the "reload" text I added is +/- accurate, after a third reload the info bits went away
[14:47] <ahasenack> and I lost the bug text, bummer
[15:05] <barry> bac: ping
[15:05] <slytherin> gmb: xmllint does not support validation against schema in compact format. :-(
[15:08] <RobOakes> Is anyone aware of an official help forum for launchpad?  I am getting a very bizarre error when I try and create a copy of my project.
[15:08] <gmb> slytherin: Oh, I thought that passing --relaxng to xmllit would do the trick.
[15:08] <bac> hi barry
[15:08] <slytherin> gmb: It expects schema in XML format.
[15:09] <bac> hi RobOakes -- what error are you getting?
[15:10] <RobOakes> Hi bac.  ERROR: bzrlib.errors.ErrorFromSmartServer: Error received from smart server: ('error', "Absent factory for ('pkginfo-20090929022204-g27e9iizsfujbxzt-1',  ...
[15:10] <bac> wow, RobOakes, you weren't kidding
[15:10] <bac> RobOakes: what were you doing to get that error?
[15:10] <researcher1> Friends I want to create PPA here https://launchpad.net/~bhagat-taran. Just want Engineering software  for students. Any advice on how to proceed?
[15:11] <RobOakes> I'm not even sure where to start.  I'm just trying to download a copy of my project from launchpad.  Here's the command bzr branch lp:timedrive/0.3
[15:11] <bigjools> researcher1: have you seen the guide here: https://help.launchpad.net/PPA
[15:12] <bigjools> mrevell: talking of which, we need to clarify about LPIA for lucid and later
[15:12] <bac> RobOakes: there is no timedrive project
[15:12] <RobOakes> Sorry, my bad.  lp:time-drive/0.3
[15:12] <persia> bigjools: What do you seek to clarify about lpia?
[15:12] <barry> bac: hi.  i did an 'upgrade branch' from the web ui and it killed a branch of mine.  any ideas about that?  it's lp:mailman-administrivia
[15:12] <mrevell> bigjools, How about a call?
[15:13] <bigjools> persia: we don't build lpia for anything after karmic
[15:13] <bigjools> mrevell: that's it ^^ :)
[15:13] <persia> OK.  Just wanted to confirm that wasn't going to change.
[15:13] <bac> RobOakes: i can reproduce your error
[15:14] <mrevell> bigjools, Heh, I thought I'd removed lpia from our docs long ago but I'
[15:14] <bac> abentley: ping
[15:14] <mrevell> I'll make sure we say support ends after karmic
[15:14] <bigjools> mrevell: it still builds for other active series, just not lucid and older
[15:14] <abentley> bac, pong
[15:14] <bac> barry: give me a moment
[15:14] <mrevell> ah, cool, thanks for the clarification bigjools
[15:14] <RobOakes> Any ideas on how I can resolve it?  Unfortunately, that branch is the only copy of 0.3 (stable) code of my project.
[15:14] <bigjools> mrevell: any time mate
[15:15] <bac> abentley: do you recognize the error that RobOakes posted above?
[15:15] <bigjools> mrevell: I meant lucid and *newer* of course
[15:15] <bac> abentley: bzrlib.errors.ErrorFromSmartServer...
[15:15] <barry> bac: cool, thanks
[15:15] <mrevell> bigjools, got ya
[15:16] <abentley> bac, RobOakes, yes I've seen that error before.  Months ago.
[15:16] <abentley> RobOakes, which version of bzr are you using?
[15:17] <RobOakes> Bzr version 2.0.2
[15:17] <RobOakes> It's just the stock version that ships with Ubuntu 9.10
[15:18] <RobOakes> I haven't done any work on this branch since about November of last year.
[15:18] <RobOakes> It's the stable version of my project.  An upgrade to a dependency broke something this morning, so I was trying to create a copy to work on it.
[15:18] <abentley> RobOakes, this is probably due to a problem we had with earlier bzrs.
[15:19] <RobOakes> The devel version downloads fine.
[15:19] <gmb> slytherin: I believe trang should be able to convert from rnc -> xsd.
[15:19] <bac> barry: where on the UI did you do the upgrade?
[15:19] <gmb> Or indeed -> rn
[15:19] <gmb> *rng
[15:19] <bac> barry: i've never done that.  is it new?
[15:20] <gmb> slytherin: Although when I try to run it I get NullPointerExceptions. Might have a wacky Java RE installed.
[15:20] <RobOakes> Okay, is there any way to download a copy?  I'm happy to reimport the project, if need be.
[15:20] <abentley> RobOakes, let me see what I can do.
[15:20] <bac> thanks abentley
[15:20] <RobOakes> Thanks.  I really appreciate that.
[15:20] <barry> bac: yes, i think it is.  i was excited about it until it whacked my branch
[15:20] <barry> bac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mailman-administrivia/mailman-administrivia/admin
[15:21] <barry> scroll down
[15:21] <barry> bac: now my question is: how can i get the branch back? ;)
[15:21] <slytherin> gmb: jing can validate against compact rng schema - http://code.google.com/p/jing-trang/downloads/list
[15:21] <abentley> RobOakes, curiously, the error is as though it was a stacked branch, but AFAICT, it's not a stacked branch.
[15:23] <RobOakes> I didn't think that it was.  But to be honest, I can't remember.  This is the first time in six months I've even looked at the project.
[15:23] <researcher1> bigjools. I have read the help page
[15:23] <researcher1> I can try
[15:23] <bigjools> researcher1: great, if there's anything you think can be improved let me know
[15:23] <bac> barry: as i've never seen this feature i've got no idea.  sounds like a question for the code team.  is rockstar around yet?
[15:24] <researcher1> no.thanks
[15:24] <gmb> slytherin: Ah cool.
[15:24] <rockstar> bac, barry, yes?
[15:24] <abentley> RobOakes, when you branch it, are you branching into a shared repository?
[15:24] <RobOakes> No, I'm just trying to download a copy to my local machine.
[15:24] <barry> rockstar: hi.  i tried the "upgrade this branch" feature and it killed my branch
[15:25] <rockstar> barry, :(
[15:25] <RobOakes> I haven't yet tried the "upgrade this branch" feature, because I've heard of others having problems with it.
[15:26] <rockstar> RobOakes, next time you hear people "having problems" please tell them to file a bug, since I haven't been hearing that.
[15:26] <rockstar> barry, luckily, we made a backup.
[15:26] <barry> rockstar: indeed.  the branch is lp:mailman-administrivia and i'm hoping there's some ability to recover it
[15:26] <barry> rockstar: yay!
[15:27] <RobOakes> Thanks rockstar.  I will.  The "hearing problems" has largely come from posts I've seen in the bugtracker and on mailing lists.
[15:27] <rockstar> RobOakes, which bugtracker?
[15:28] <RobOakes> To be perfectly honest.  I don't remember.  They came up when looking for bzrlib.errors.ErrorFromSmartServer
[15:28] <RobOakes> I just ran a Google Search.
[15:28] <abentley> RobOakes, how big is this thing?
[15:28] <barry> rockstar: what do i need to do to get the branch restored?
[15:28] <rockstar> barry, give me a second while I investigate.
[15:29] <barry> rockstar: thanks
[15:29] <RobOakes> abentley: Overall size or number of files?  It's about 1 MB with 100 or so files.
[15:29] <Breaking_Pitt> wich is the address of the launchpad site that i have installed https://launchpad.dev?
[15:29] <rockstar> Breaking_Pitt, -> #launchpad-dev
[15:29] <Breaking_Pitt> ok thanks
[15:32] <RobOakes> okay, maybe that's just the source package.  The actual project appears to be much larger.  Maybe 30 MB or so?  (I removed a ton of image files from the source version that made it much larger)
[15:34] <rockstar> barry, so you had two backup dirs in there, and no .bzr.  I'm not sure how that happened.  Can you check to make sure the branch is okay again?
[15:34] <rockstar> barry, I _may_ have restored an old backup, so please check to see if the latest revision is indeed the latest.
[15:35] <barry> rockstar: thanks, checking
[15:35] <abentley> RobOakes, I'm trying out an idea, but it will take a while due to the 22MB...
[15:36] <RobOakes> Thank you for checking on it.  That's fine, I've got some time.
[15:40] <slytherin> gmb: There is a problem with schema. It expects every bug tag to have at least one comment child tag.
[15:42] <gmb> slytherin: That's deliberate, and accurately represents how the bugs are stored in LP. The 0th comment is the original description for the bug (so if the bug description gets changed we link back to comment 0 so that you can see what the description was originally).
[15:43] <barry> rockstar: i'll have to get back to you on that.  i want to check with one of my devs and he's not responding to pings.
[15:43] <slytherin> gmb: Does that mean if that I need to copy description in first comment and then add remaining comments?
[15:44] <rockstar> barry, okay.
[15:44] <gmb> slytherin: Yes, that's the way to do it.
[15:44] <slytherin> gmb: Ok. I will modify my XSL accordingly.
[15:46] <abentley> RobOakes, I was able to fix this by branching trunk into a shared repo, then branching 3.0 into the same shared repo.
[15:46] <abentley> RobOakes, shall I just replace your existing 3.0?
[15:46] <RobOakes> Oh, nice!  Yes, please.
[15:47] <gmb> slytherin: Cool.
[15:50] <abentley> RobOakes, done.  Please verify it works for you.
[15:50] <RobOakes> Trying to branch right now.
[15:53] <RobOakes> It looks like it worked.  Thank you very much for fixing that.
[15:54] <abentley> RobOakes, you're welcome.  Have you checked your 0.2?
[15:54] <RobOakes> Actually, no.  Let me check it now :(
[15:56] <RobOakes> abentley: I was able to download 0.2 without issues.
[15:58] <abentley> RobOakes, great.  I notice you're not using the 2a format on these branches.  I recommend switching at some point, as it's smaller, faster, and generally more awesome.
[15:58] <RobOakes> That's good to know.  How can I upgrade to the 2a format?
[15:58] <RobOakes> (I'm not really a software engineer, these are just side projects to scratch an itch.)
[16:01] <abentley> RobOakes, there's a button on the web page to upgrade it.
[16:01] <RobOakes> Cool.  I'll do that.  Again, thank you for your help.
[16:02] <abentley> RobOakes, no problem.
[16:21] <slytherin> gmb: Can you please take a quick look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~onkarshinde/gnusim8085_bugs.xml It validates against schema.
[16:22] <gmb> slytherin: I'm quite busy at the moment. Please file a question about it (http://answers.launchpad.net/malone) and I or another member of the bugs team will take care of it for you.
[16:23] <slytherin> gmb: Fine. no issue.
[16:23] <bac> rockstar: could you have a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/103090
[16:26] <rockstar> bac, done
[16:28] <bac> thanks rockstar
[16:29] <jcastro> deryck: woo on +patches!
[16:29] <deryck> jcastro, glad you like it! :-)
[16:29] <jcastro> I am about to blog it
[16:29] <deryck> jcastro, are ubuntu devs and upstreams (who know about it) happy with it?
[16:29] <jcastro> deryck: I think the announcement got lost in the new branding launch so I am going to reannounce it today basically
[16:30] <jcastro> deryck: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+patches
[16:30] <jcastro> deryck: I thought we were only going to show open bugs and not fixed ones?
[16:31] <deryck> jcastro, I had asked about this, too, thinking it was weird.  But I thought I was told this was what you guys wanted after a conversation with you all.
[16:32] <jcastro> did we have a bug for this?
[16:32] <deryck> jcastro, no, because we didn't think it was a bug.  well, I did. :-)  But was told this was a feature.
[16:32] <jcastro> Hmmm, I am having spotty memory as to why we would want the fixed bugs to show up
[16:33] <deryck> jcastro, I think the reasoning was upstreams might not have those patches and want them.  and leaving them visible helps discovery.
[16:33] <jcastro> ok
[16:33] <deryck> adeuring, am I recalling this right?  ^^
[16:33] <deryck> karl isn't around rightnow.
[16:33] <jcastro> I guess user feedback will determine how useful it is
[16:34] <deryck> jcastro, yeah, and it's simple to change if we don't like it.  one bug filed and a couple hours work and it's done.
[16:34]  * jcastro nods
[16:34] <jcastro> I'm sure karl remembers *hopes*
[16:34] <jcastro> heh
[16:34] <deryck> heh
[16:35] <deryck> jcastro, I'll make a note to follow up with him.  He's having computer issues at the moment.
[16:35] <jcastro> no worries
[16:36] <deryck> jcastro, it was a pleasure working together on this.
[16:36] <jcastro> this has been awesome
[16:36] <jcastro> I hope you're coming to UDS so we can do it again for another cycle!
[16:38] <james_w> if the upstream task is closed then upstream probably has the patch?
[16:39] <deryck> jcastro, allenap will represent us at the coming UDS.  But same plans, to be there and work this stuff out there.
[16:40] <mars> I wonder what would happen if you mixed pending branches into the +patches list :)
[16:40] <deryck> mars, go away
[16:40] <deryck> :-)
[16:40] <mars> :D
[16:40] <deryck> mars, phase 2 :-)
[16:41] <deryck> james_w, yeah, true if upstream task is closed.  and for gwibber, they are the upstream even.  so maybe some logic like that.
[16:41] <mars> deryck, yep.  BTW, this is awesome by itself.
[16:41] <deryck> thanks!
[16:41] <jcastro> mars: don't worry I have larger dreams!
[16:44] <mars> deryck, have you shown this to @segphault?
[16:45] <jcastro> mars: http://castrojo.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/keeping-track-of-patches-and-getting-them-visibility/
[16:45] <jcastro> under "My Big Dream"
[16:47] <jcastro> deryck: now that it's live and I can play with it, I am willing to bet that orderby=status and then by age is what people will want.
[16:47] <jcastro> as a default sort I mean
[16:48] <mars> jcastro, that is quite a big vision
[16:48] <deryck> jcastro, yeah, I could see that, too.
[16:48] <deryck> mars, and no, I haven't showed it to him.  I don't know if jcastro has or not.
[16:48] <jcastro> I'll show it to him today
[16:49] <jcastro> he's got a bunch of them in there.
[16:50] <deryck> indeed. and nice blog post.
[16:52] <mars> darn, looks like a bug in the tooltip code.  The popups spill of the right-hand edge of the screen.
[16:53] <mars> The tooltip should be smart enough to render itself on-screen.
[18:11] <bdmurray> should bug 505433 really have 4 heat flames? it only has a heat of 16
[18:18] <james_w> bdmurray: it's logarithmic now
[18:18] <james_w> that does seem a little off though
[18:19] <bdmurray> james_w: and based off the distro's max right? not the package
[18:19] <james_w> hmm
[18:19] <james_w> I know it depends on the context, but I don't know what it would be for a single bug view
[18:20] <james_w> deryck: do you know? ^
[18:21]  * deryck looks back
[18:21] <deryck> oh, right.
[18:22] <deryck> james_w, bdmurray -- a little slip in the way we calculate the flames.  intellectronica has fixed it, and we're putting this out in the re-roll.
[18:22] <bdmurray> great
[18:23] <deryck> hmmm, looking closer at the specific bug, though.  to make sure...
[18:23] <deryck> heh
[18:23] <deryck> bdmurray, so it's the only bug for the package.  it is the package's hottest bug.
[18:24] <deryck> on the bug, we use the package as the context for heat.  This isn't preferred?
[18:25] <bdmurray> How would you see the bug's heat for the distribution then?  I'd imagine you'd only see it in a bug list so if you were initially looking the the bug it's heat would be 0 then you click on the bug and it becomes 4?  That's weird.
[18:25] <deryck> bdmurray, yeah, agreed.
[18:26] <james_w> deryck: could there be some scaling based on the package's max_heat compared to the distribution's max_heat?
[18:26] <james_w> so you get some differentiation within each package
[18:26] <james_w> but they don't all hit 4 flames?
[18:26] <deryck> james_w, that's an interesting idea.
[18:26] <james_w> or, don't bother with flames, just print the number :-)
[18:26] <deryck> I also think that low heat bugs, for some value of low, should not have heat flames no matter the context.
[18:27] <deryck> bdmurray, james_w -- you guys agree with my last statement? ^^
[18:27] <james_w> deryck: hmm, most of my /projects/ have very low heat for all their bugs
[18:27] <deryck> james_w, low as in less than 50?
[18:28] <james_w> if you do that with a threshold across the board, then heat is only available to those projects with lots of users
[18:28] <james_w> deryck: what's the number based on?
[18:28] <james_w> is it subscribers or affected people?
[18:30] <deryck> james_w, it's several factors.  subscribers, affected users, dupes, security or privacy.
[18:30] <james_w> ok
[18:30] <james_w> so, I'm going to guess that all my bugs on projects are < 10
[18:31] <bdmurray> deryck: I'd disagree with low heat bugs have no flames too
[18:31] <james_w> at that level there's not a lot of point in differentiating them, but it would take quite a large project to push a significant number of bugs > 50
[18:31] <deryck> bdmurray, james_w -- ok, interesting.  kill that idea then. :)
[18:32] <deryck> bdmurray, james_w, so the question then is what do we base the bug page flame against for a package, the package or the distro?  Or some scaling between them.  Is that right?
[18:33] <bdmurray> deryck: yes, that's the question.
[18:34] <deryck> bdmurray, I'll open a bug.
[18:35] <james_w> deryck: what happens for multi-task bugs, it's based on the context?
[18:35] <deryck> james_w, yes.
[18:36] <james_w> deryck: I would lean towards distribution rather than package, but would be interested to try scaled-package
[18:37] <james_w> perhaps scaled-package could even be used everywhere for distribution bugs, to avoid the dissonance in flames between different contexts
[18:38]  * james_w goes to cook dinner
[18:39] <deryck> scaling is interesting.  it doesn't solve the problem of seeing no flames on a distro bug page and flames on the bug itself.
[19:20] <Kangarooo> how to make apport post files to specific bug? ubuntu-bug python-dogtail 530064 doesnt work
[19:28] <mpt> deryck, since you're discussing bug flames, here's a weird example: in <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=metadata> the last four bug reports are practically identical in summary, time reported, reporter, and activity (none), but the very last one has four flames while the others have zero.
[19:33] <deryck> mpt, will look in just a moment... thanks!  on call.
[19:37] <deryck> mpt, yeah, that is weird.  maybe the same problem as above.
[19:39] <deryck> hmmm, yeah, same issue.  only bug in package.
[19:50] <komputes> How can I modify an existing bug to have it show "Also affect Launchpad itself"?
[19:54] <bac> komputes: use 'also affects' and just enter launchpad as the project name
[19:55] <bac> komputes: you can't search for it but you can simply enter it
[19:55] <komputes> bac: ok, will try that thanks
[19:55] <bac> np
[19:57] <komputes> bac: worked, thanks
[19:57] <bac> great
[20:34] <ajmitch> is login.ubuntu.com still the launchpad openid provider? I just had it spit out an internal server error
[20:37] <mwhudson> ajmitch: i think so...
[20:38] <ajmitch> ok, I guess the appropriate person needs poked about it, if you know who
[20:59] <Guest74124> exit
[21:00] <forrest> I have a problem getting to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/150579
[21:01] <forrest> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[21:01] <bac> hi forrest
[21:01] <bac> forrest: i just loaded that page.  it was pretty slow but did load
[21:02] <forrest> hi! just reporting the error like a good citizen -- i actually have another problem with oo.o on ubuntu i was trying to find if there was already a bug for
[21:03] <bac> forrest: thanks for bringing it up!
[21:03]  * forrest tries again -- yes, it loaded this time
[21:09] <forrest> ok I found a bug that's sounds very close to what i'm experiencing #496596 -- How do I add a "me too" to it?
[21:10] <SQuIDers> hey guys
[21:10] <SQuIDers> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+specs  <-- not working
[21:10] <marius42> seems entire https://launchpad.net is not responding
[21:10] <SQuIDers> we are all doomed
[21:10] <SQuIDers> all right, later
[21:10] <marius42> oh noes
[21:36] <n8_1234> anyone know what is going on with launchpad? I was trying to download Bazaar Explorer 1.0, and it delays for a long time and the gives me an error saying to report the problem here.
[21:37] <bachya> Same here - browsing bugs and the site just hangs.
[21:42] <lifeless> sysadmins are looking at it right now
[21:43] <n8_1234> thanks for the statys
[21:46] <mbarnett> launchpad should be back to normal.  We had an issue with one of the load balancers not behaving properly.
[21:46] <mbarnett> apparently we need to load balance our load balancers better!
[21:52] <bdrung> why am i not allowed to show https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[21:52] <bdrung> "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. "
[21:52] <bac> bdrung: let me look
[21:52] <wgrant> bdrung: Bug 514824
[21:52] <wgrant> bdrung: As a workaround you can log out.
[21:53] <bac> thanks wgrant
[21:53] <bdrung> thanks
[22:01] <n8_1234> thaks, works great now
[23:21] <derks> did the update maintenance yester introduce a new version of bzr? I'm getting "bzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar repository format 2a (needs bzr 1.16 or later)\n'"
[23:22] <derks> baazar version 1.3.1 from EPEL
[23:23] <thumper> derks: for which branch?
[23:23] <derks> thumper, you mean which branch am i trying to 'bzr branch'?
[23:23] <thumper> yes
[23:24] <derks> lp:~derks/pkg-drizzle/rpm
[23:24] <derks> you know what... i just realized....  the branch format is based on what I pushed to it with, yeah?
[23:24] <derks> not what version launchpad is running
[23:41] <wgrant> derks: That's right.
[23:41] <wgrant> derks: The server version doesn't matter.
[23:42] <derks> wgrant, thanks.  I recreate it starting with the el5 box and older version... the fedora box newer version can branch/use that fine
[23:48] <donri> https://launchpad.net/~kuliniew/+archive/ppa ← tried to install for months, now by looking in the Packages.bz2 i find the package is not actually called "panflute". bug in launchpad?
[23:52] <robert_ancell> My bazaar repository is locked (I aborted a push). lp:~robert-ancell/simple-scan/trunk
[23:53] <spiv> robert_ancell: bzr break-lock lp:~robert-ancell/simple-scan/trunk
[23:53] <robert_ancell> spiv, I think it is the remote lock. I tried that and it doesn't work
[23:53] <robert_ancell> bzr: ERROR: Could not acquire lock "(remote lock)":
[23:53] <spiv> robert_ancell: pastebin the transcript?
[23:54] <robert_ancell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/388602/
[23:54] <wgrant> donri: No -- the packages listed by Launchpad's web UI are source packages.
[23:54] <donri> ok
[23:55] <wgrant> donri: You can see the binary packages if you expand the source package item.
[23:55] <spiv> robert_ancell: I meant of the break-lock invocation
[23:55] <robert_ancell> spiv, doesn't return any output
[23:55] <spiv> robert_ancell: and you ran exactly the command I gave you?
[23:56] <robert_ancell> spiv, ah, sorry, didn't see you passed it an argument
[23:56] <spiv> (sorry for the basic questions, but something basic seems to be going wrong)
[23:56] <spiv> Ah :)
[23:56] <robert_ancell> spiv, yeah, I think I'm the basic thing going wrong :)
[23:57] <spiv> :)
[23:57] <robert_ancell> spiv, thanks, that worked!