[00:34] <benomatic> tricky question.  I have a backup (mysql db + original files) of my mythbuntu-9.04 (myth 0.21) db.  since then i have a clean mythbuntu-9.10 machine running 0.22, setup from scratch.  can i somehow merge all my old stuff from the 0.21 installation?
[00:34] <benomatic> i assume the hardest part is any sql schema changes, but i have just started looking.
[00:35] <benomatic> second question: mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to be auto-running in my new installation; where is this configured so that i can set it up properly?
[00:36] <superm1> benomatic, mythbuntu.org/upgrading explains how to load the new stuff in
[00:37] <superm1> benomatic, the schema updates happen automatically next time you start the backend
[00:38] <benomatic> superm1: i figured that the in-place schema changes "just work", but i wonder how to apply the schema update process to my backed-up db, so that i can merge it into existing one
[00:38] <superm1> benomatic, merging is asking for trouble
[00:38] <superm1> you are better off dropping the new db
[00:38] <superm1> and inserting your old onw
[00:39] <superm1> and letting schema updates happen on their own
[00:42] <benomatic> urg.  perhaps i will do a backup of current, try to upgrade old, then backup, so they're at least both in same schema.  then i could play the merge game :)
[00:42] <superm1> trust me, you really dont want to play the merge game
[00:43] <superm1> the schema update works on it's own from 0.21->0.22 schema updates
[00:43] <benomatic> why do you say that?  have you tried?
[00:44] <superm1> unless you have very particular tools for comparing the differences and feel like reading code, it's gonna be a waste of your time
[00:44] <benomatic> (perhaps foolishly i'm not too afraid of sql, having done lots of it elsewhere)
[00:44] <benomatic> hrm
[00:44] <superm1> it's not gonna buy you any benefit since the schema updates are otherwise automatic
[00:45] <benomatic> perhaps i was a bit unclear -- i have shows in both dbs that i'd like to keep.  i don't want to manually update the schema... just keep all my shows :)
[00:49] <superm1> ah that wasn't clear at all
[00:49] <superm1> then you should just backup the table containing all those shows you want to keep and write off the rest of the data from one of the installs
[00:49] <superm1> merging in one table is doable
[00:51] <benomatic> excellent.
[00:51] <benomatic> i will start the backup current, restore old, backup old process now and see how that goes :)
[01:44] <benomatic> superm1: so... is there anything to do other than merge in the 'recorded' table?
[01:44] <benomatic> i think i've got everything setup :)
[01:45] <superm1> that's all you should need, but you might want the oldrecorded too
[01:46] <benomatic> gracias :)
[02:05] <benomatic> superm1: i have them all!  thanks :)
[02:08] <superm1> great!
[02:50] <pteague> now i see what my problem is...  the upgrade process changed uid & gids in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, & /etc/shadow & now that they don't match across boxes mythtv (or perhaps the upgrade process while the nfs directories are mounted) sets permissions to the local boxes mythtv:mythtv which changes what's on the backend
[03:20] <bonelifer> Can anyone suggest a USB wireless G dongle that just works on a plain install of MythBuntu?
[05:29] <jst_> Anyone here using Comcast or FiOS?  I know they have some, uhm, idiosyncrasies.  I'm just curious as to what your solutions are... HD-PVR, Firewire capture, etc.
[06:17] <rhpot1991> jst_: I use comcast, whats up?
[06:18] <jst_> Do you use DTA converters or HDPVR or what?
[06:18] <rhpot1991> my hardware is listed here: http://mythbuntu.org/developer-hardware
[06:20] <jst_> Sweet... What do you mean by "Tuners 7-8: Daisy Chained Firewire Controlled Motorolla DCH3200?"
[06:21] <jst_> Is that what connects to your HD-PVR?
[06:21] <rhpot1991> well one of them is hooked up to the HD-PVR
[06:21] <rhpot1991> but they are both hooked up as firewire devices, so I can record off both of them
[06:22] <rhpot1991> daisy-chained is one wire into one, then another wire from stb 1 to stb 2
[06:22] <jst_> Ahh, so you're recording non-5C stuff with them?
[06:22] <jst_> STB -> 1394 -> MythBox?
[06:22] <rhpot1991> I used to, before I got my HDPVR
[06:23] <rhpot1991> now I don't really need to, but they are still there for conflicts and such
[06:23] <jst_> Wait, can you use one HDPVR with two STBs?
[06:23] <jst_> I'm confused.
[06:23] <rhpot1991> no
[06:23] <jst_> heh
[06:23] <rhpot1991> 2 stbs
[06:23] <rhpot1991> both connected by firewire
[06:23] <rhpot1991> one of them also connected to a hdpvr
[06:23] <rhpot1991> my main tuners are my HDHR and HDPVR
[06:23] <rhpot1991> the others don't get used so much anymore
[06:24] <jst_> Ahh, I see.
[06:24] <jst_> I was mistaken about how the HDPVR works, but that makes sense.
[06:24] <rhpot1991> I use the firewire connection to tune the stb for the hdpvr as well
[06:26] <jst_> http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/15-116-030-S04?$S640W$
[06:26] <Zinn> [images17.newegg.com]
[06:26] <jst_> I'm not seeing a Firewire port on there... Can you use USB to tune?
[06:26] <jst_> Oh wait, USB sends the stream to your 'puter.
[06:28] <rhpot1991> ya usb to your computer, firewire from your computer to the stb
[06:41] <rhpot1991> jst_: heading to bed, if you have any other questions feel free to ask, someone else may help, or you can ping me tomorrow
[06:41] <jst_> Ok, thanks for your help.
[08:22] <jst_> I accidentally marked something as "never record," and it's not showing up under Recording Rules... Is there any way to remove "never record" rules?
[20:52] <Geoff918> I'm getting an "Irrecoverable Player Error" on Mythbuntu. I can't find any information about this via Google, MythTV forums, or Mythbuntu forums. Anybody familiar?
[20:53] <rhpot1991> Geoff918: check your logs?
[20:54] <Geoff918> Yes, I can pastebin something if you'd like
[20:58] <Geoff918> http://pastebin.org/101352
[20:58] <Zinn> [pastebin.org] pastebin - collaborative debugging tool
[21:00] <Geoff918> uname -a Linux kittley-mythbuntu 2.6.31-20-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 09:05:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:55] <mrand> Geoff918: upstream has shifted most of their focus to 0.23.  If you aren't already on auto-builds for 0.22, you might try that.  Otherwise, I'm afraid you'll need to try 0.23 (which is also available via auto-builds, but back up your database first!) before filing a bug report.  capturing a -v playback might yield more info as well.  Looks like the error  in the log is:
[21:55] <mrand> 2010-03-04 15:11:52.947 NVP(1), Error: Unknown recorder error, exiting decoder
[21:55] <mrand> Just a fly by comment.  bbl
[21:56] <mrand> (btw, 0.23 hasn't been released yet... that's still a few weeks out probably)