[00:34] tricky question. I have a backup (mysql db + original files) of my mythbuntu-9.04 (myth 0.21) db. since then i have a clean mythbuntu-9.10 machine running 0.22, setup from scratch. can i somehow merge all my old stuff from the 0.21 installation? [00:34] i assume the hardest part is any sql schema changes, but i have just started looking. [00:35] second question: mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to be auto-running in my new installation; where is this configured so that i can set it up properly? [00:36] benomatic, mythbuntu.org/upgrading explains how to load the new stuff in [00:37] benomatic, the schema updates happen automatically next time you start the backend [00:38] superm1: i figured that the in-place schema changes "just work", but i wonder how to apply the schema update process to my backed-up db, so that i can merge it into existing one [00:38] benomatic, merging is asking for trouble [00:38] you are better off dropping the new db [00:38] and inserting your old onw [00:39] and letting schema updates happen on their own [00:42] urg. perhaps i will do a backup of current, try to upgrade old, then backup, so they're at least both in same schema. then i could play the merge game :) [00:42] trust me, you really dont want to play the merge game [00:43] the schema update works on it's own from 0.21->0.22 schema updates [00:43] why do you say that? have you tried? [00:44] unless you have very particular tools for comparing the differences and feel like reading code, it's gonna be a waste of your time [00:44] (perhaps foolishly i'm not too afraid of sql, having done lots of it elsewhere) [00:44] hrm [00:44] it's not gonna buy you any benefit since the schema updates are otherwise automatic [00:45] perhaps i was a bit unclear -- i have shows in both dbs that i'd like to keep. i don't want to manually update the schema... just keep all my shows :) [00:49] ah that wasn't clear at all [00:49] then you should just backup the table containing all those shows you want to keep and write off the rest of the data from one of the installs [00:49] merging in one table is doable [00:51] excellent. [00:51] i will start the backup current, restore old, backup old process now and see how that goes :) [01:44] superm1: so... is there anything to do other than merge in the 'recorded' table? [01:44] i think i've got everything setup :) [01:45] that's all you should need, but you might want the oldrecorded too [01:46] gracias :) [02:05] superm1: i have them all! thanks :) [02:08] great! [02:50] now i see what my problem is... the upgrade process changed uid & gids in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, & /etc/shadow & now that they don't match across boxes mythtv (or perhaps the upgrade process while the nfs directories are mounted) sets permissions to the local boxes mythtv:mythtv which changes what's on the backend [03:20] Can anyone suggest a USB wireless G dongle that just works on a plain install of MythBuntu? === jst is now known as jst_ [05:29] Anyone here using Comcast or FiOS? I know they have some, uhm, idiosyncrasies. I'm just curious as to what your solutions are... HD-PVR, Firewire capture, etc. [06:17] jst_: I use comcast, whats up? [06:18] Do you use DTA converters or HDPVR or what? [06:18] my hardware is listed here: http://mythbuntu.org/developer-hardware [06:20] Sweet... What do you mean by "Tuners 7-8: Daisy Chained Firewire Controlled Motorolla DCH3200?" [06:21] Is that what connects to your HD-PVR? [06:21] well one of them is hooked up to the HD-PVR [06:21] but they are both hooked up as firewire devices, so I can record off both of them [06:22] daisy-chained is one wire into one, then another wire from stb 1 to stb 2 [06:22] Ahh, so you're recording non-5C stuff with them? [06:22] STB -> 1394 -> MythBox? [06:22] I used to, before I got my HDPVR [06:23] now I don't really need to, but they are still there for conflicts and such [06:23] Wait, can you use one HDPVR with two STBs? [06:23] I'm confused. [06:23] no [06:23] heh [06:23] 2 stbs [06:23] both connected by firewire [06:23] one of them also connected to a hdpvr [06:23] my main tuners are my HDHR and HDPVR [06:23] the others don't get used so much anymore [06:24] Ahh, I see. [06:24] I was mistaken about how the HDPVR works, but that makes sense. [06:24] I use the firewire connection to tune the stb for the hdpvr as well [06:26] http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/15-116-030-S04?$S640W$ [06:26] [images17.newegg.com] [06:26] I'm not seeing a Firewire port on there... Can you use USB to tune? [06:26] Oh wait, USB sends the stream to your 'puter. [06:28] ya usb to your computer, firewire from your computer to the stb [06:41] jst_: heading to bed, if you have any other questions feel free to ask, someone else may help, or you can ping me tomorrow [06:41] Ok, thanks for your help. [08:22] I accidentally marked something as "never record," and it's not showing up under Recording Rules... Is there any way to remove "never record" rules? [20:52] I'm getting an "Irrecoverable Player Error" on Mythbuntu. I can't find any information about this via Google, MythTV forums, or Mythbuntu forums. Anybody familiar? [20:53] Geoff918: check your logs? [20:54] Yes, I can pastebin something if you'd like [20:58] http://pastebin.org/101352 [20:58] [pastebin.org] pastebin - collaborative debugging tool [21:00] uname -a Linux kittley-mythbuntu 2.6.31-20-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 09:05:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [21:55] Geoff918: upstream has shifted most of their focus to 0.23. If you aren't already on auto-builds for 0.22, you might try that. Otherwise, I'm afraid you'll need to try 0.23 (which is also available via auto-builds, but back up your database first!) before filing a bug report. capturing a -v playback might yield more info as well. Looks like the error in the log is: [21:55] 2010-03-04 15:11:52.947 NVP(1), Error: Unknown recorder error, exiting decoder [21:55] Just a fly by comment. bbl [21:56] (btw, 0.23 hasn't been released yet... that's still a few weeks out probably)