[00:25] <pea[laptop]> can someone unban me
[00:25] <pea[laptop]> oh hang on
[00:26] <pea[laptop]> ok now
[00:28] <Pici> pea[laptop]: What channel do you think you're banned in?
[00:28] <pea[laptop]> #ubuntu
[00:28] <pea[laptop]> why do you think i ask here?
[00:28] <Pici> We manage a lot of channels, I'm just checking because I didn't see a ban at first glance.  Let me look again.
[00:33] <Pici> pea[laptop]: As far as I can tell you are not banned. You were at one point due to your ralname, but nolonger.
[00:33] <Pici> Plus you're in there now anyway.
[00:42] <Pici> pea[laptop]: Is there anything else we can help you with?
[00:44]  * Pici sighs
[05:14] <KB1JWQ> If I wanted to take a more active role in contributing to the ubuntu project, who would I talk to?  And yes, this may be off topic here; mea culpa.
[05:15] <bazhang> hehe
[05:15] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate KB1JWQ
[05:16] <bazhang> loads of links there :)
[05:16] <KB1JWQ> bazhang: Thanks.
[05:16] <KB1JWQ> The site's huge; hard to find information there.
[05:16]  * persia also likes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[05:16] <bazhang> KB1JWQ, you're welcome; contributing ie coding or something else
[05:17] <KB1JWQ> Something else.  I can't program for crap, but I can (semi-obviously) contribute IRC time, as well as support across a variety of topics.
[05:18] <bazhang> you already contribute a ton imo
[05:18] <KB1JWQ> By day I'm migrating 1.2 million email users from one system to another, so my enterprisey knowledge is up there, but as far as desktops go... I get my first Linux desktop in a week or so.
[05:20] <KB1JWQ> RedHat based in the past, but Fedora's a crapfest in a lot of ways.
[05:21] <KB1JWQ> bazhang: I appreciate tat.
[05:21] <KB1JWQ> that*
[05:21] <Flannel> KB1JWQ: What sort of contributions are you interested in?
[05:21] <KB1JWQ> Flannel: That's the problem.  I have no idea what the general needs are.
[05:21] <Flannel> KB1JWQ: The way it generally works best is you do something you enjoy ;)
[05:21] <KB1JWQ> "How do I tweak my email setup across 200 nodes" isn't exactly commonly asked on IRC...
[05:22] <Flannel> KB1JWQ: Maybe answers?  Or just documentation I guess?
[05:22] <persia> It's more likely to be asked in #ubuntu-server, where people get support for larger deployments.
[05:23] <Flannel> KB1JWQ: Write about it, make a wikipage about it, etc?
[05:23] <KB1JWQ> persia: I... never knew that existed.
[05:23] <persia> heh
[05:25] <KB1JWQ> Thanks for the advice.  Bedtime here, but I've got something to think about now. :-)
[06:08] <Surrador> I would liike to humbly apologize for being duped into a really bad troll
[06:08] <Surrador> i was offered ops in ##politics in exchange for outing racists on channels and getting them banned from freenode
[06:10] <elky> I'm not terribly keen on his part message either
[06:11] <Madpilot> somehow I don't believe a word of the "offered ops in ##pol" thing
[06:12] <Madpilot> although if true, it helps confirm ##politics rep as an absolute cesspit...
[06:20] <elky> I wouldn't put it past them, to be honest.
[07:14] <Semitones> yo hey, so this "Mirc" sent me a pm on join, :( "* Mirc  Visit us at network chat and get bots + hosting special and free,   /server IRC.ForChat.Net  "
[07:24] <Semitones> thanks Amaranth
[07:48] <dholbach> good morning
[07:49] <Madpilot> morning
[07:49] <Madpilot> well, not for ten minutes here yet
[07:57]  * persia wants the URL for the definition of "good morning" as seen on IRC as being timezone-agnostic
[07:59] <Madpilot> I rather like "good $appropriate-time-of-day" myself, but I like pseudo-code like that :)
[08:01] <persia> suihkulokki gave me a URL to a good half-page of rant on the subject, with a detailed analysis of why "Good morning" was always the appropriate greeting despite the time of day.  Unfortunately, I can't find it right now.
[08:01] <persia> I've generally used "Pleasant diurnal period" or similar to work around it.
[08:07] <Madpilot> !gnupg
[08:09] <MenZa> Morning, kkathman
[08:10] <MenZa> ahuhr. scrolled up.
[08:48] <topyli> i removed cyberbluntz from -ot, apparently he went to complain on #ubuntu
[08:48] <topyli> ah hello cyberbluntz
[08:48] <cyberbluntz> I want to make a complaint about being kicked out of the OT channel
[08:48] <cyberbluntz> A Formal complaint plz
[08:48] <persia> cyberbluntz: Rather than making a complaint, the procedure is usually to request to be permitted to join the channel again.
[08:48] <topyli> cyberbluntz, you came to the right place
[08:48] <cyberbluntz> I feel some people are abusing their privs and misconstruing what people say to meet their own means
[08:49] <cyberbluntz> I dont want to talk to you topylia
[08:49] <topyli> cyberbluntz, okay.
[08:49] <cyberbluntz> Is there someone who will review the log?
[08:50] <topyli> for the record, you're not banned and are free to rejoin -offtopic. if your conduct doesn't change, your stay might be short though
[08:50] <topyli> -offtopic is not logged
[08:50] <cyberbluntz> what about the log on my HD? and I would like to make a formal complaint
[08:51] <cyberbluntz> How do I do that?
[08:51] <topyli> !appeals
[08:51] <topyli> however, you're not banned so there's very little to complain about
[08:51] <cyberbluntz> Complain about people abusing their powers
[08:52] <persia> cyberbluntz: The Appeal Process is the correct form for that.
[08:52] <cyberbluntz> I'm sure kicking isnt meant for amusement or somebody whim
[08:52] <persia> cyberbluntz: You can complain here, and submit a pastebin of your copy of the logs if you want to be informal, but it sounds like you want a formal process.
[08:56] <topyli> cyberbluntz, infortunately idling is not allowed here. if we can't help you further, you should /part the channel
[08:56] <topyli> unfortunately, even
[09:00] <cyberbluntz> huh?
[09:00] <cyberbluntz> ok im out
[09:00] <topyli> thanks
[09:01] <Jordan_U> puky is trolling in #ubuntu
[09:02] <Madpilot> dealt with
[09:02] <Madpilot> idiot
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Thanks
[09:23] <Myrtti> moin
[09:26] <topyli> Myrtti! alive and well
[09:52]  * mneptok raises a dessicated arm in zombie greeting
[10:27] <rww> Hello. |604| in #ubuntu has a script that's responding to !ping with a CTCP PING request.
[10:29] <Myrtti> confirmed
[10:29] <Myrtti> hmmm.
[10:52] <MenZa> Why is #ubuntu-art +i?
[10:56] <elky> MenZa, because it redirects to -artwork?
[10:56] <MenZa> oh.
[10:57] <MenZa> <__<
[10:57] <MenZa> Thanks elky
[10:57]  * elky pats MenZa
[10:57] <MenZa> :P
[10:57] <MenZa> [2010-03-04 10:52:01 GMT] [freenode] *** Cannot join to channel #ubuntu-art (You must be invited)
[10:57] <MenZa> is what I got
[10:58] <elky> it didn't forward?
[10:58] <bazhang> MenZa, you have +Q on?
[10:58] <MenZa> I was already in the channel.
[10:58] <Myrtti> that's normal then
[10:58] <MenZa> I just have so many I tend to /join to make it bounce to the channel
[10:58] <MenZa> yep
[11:21]  * MenZa steals elky's pizza.
[11:44] <jpds> Hmm, pizza.
[11:45] <Mamarok> jep, pizza sounds good :)
[11:46] <Mamarok> but my bf bought one with mushrooms which I don't like on pizzas :(
[11:46]  * persia has an olives-only pizza tonight
[12:16] <elky> Crazymethjesus, oh hi there.
[12:16] <Crazymethjesus> hello
[12:17] <Crazymethjesus> are you a fag??
[12:17] <Crazymethjesus> why am i on this gay channel??
[12:17] <elky> Sure whatever. I see there's no point in trying to discuss if you're likely to behave better than yesterday.
[12:17] <elky> Goodbye.
[12:17]  * Myrtti feels ashamed for her compatriot
[12:18] <elky> I had several sentances typed out and everything, but he had to go ruin it.
[12:18] <Myrtti> was it a banforward?
[12:18] <elky> yes
[12:18] <elky> Please upgrade.
[12:18] <Myrtti> yours?
[12:18] <elky> Yep. nick based iirc
[12:23] <Myrtti> yw
[12:23] <Myrtti> -->
[12:47] <elky> thanks :)
[13:36] <mneptok> we're gay? i didn't get the memo, and am traveling. could someone break the news to my wife in a calm and understanding manner?
[13:40] <persia> mneptok: She's known for years.
[13:42] <mneptok> persia: unlikely, given my terrible wardrobe and her tolerance of it.
[13:44]  * persia is unable to continue the banter in accordance with the standing guidelines
[14:47] <AlienDK> eh
[14:47] <Pici> Let me take a look at our records, one moment.
[14:47] <AlienDK> ok
[14:50] <Pici> AlienDK: Do you remember why you were banned?
[14:50] <AlienDK> Not the exact reason. But I was pretty being an asshole or maybe I was offtopic or something.
[14:51] <AlienDK> ** pretty == probably
[14:51] <AlienDK> hehe
[14:51] <AlienDK> typo >.>
[14:57] <Pici> AlienDK: Are you aware of our channel guidelines and the purpose of #ubuntu?
[14:57] <AlienDK> Well, I guess the purpose of #ubuntu is support for Ubuntu
[14:59] <AlienDK> and I'll read the guidelines
[15:02] <AlienDK> done
[15:04] <Pici> I'd just like to remind you that everyone has their own opinions of what the *best* tool to use for things, and theres no need to force your own ideals on others.
[15:04] <AlienDK> I know :(
[15:05] <Pici> AlienDK: Please keep that in mind when you're in #ubuntu.  If there is a next time, we won't be as lenient.
[15:06] <AlienDK> Ok
[15:06] <AlienDK> Fair enough
[15:07] <Pici> The ban has been lifted.
[15:07] <AlienDK> thank you :)
[15:07] <persia> If only every ban lifting could be so simple.
[15:08] <knome> i'd rather just not have to ban people in the first place ;)
[15:08] <MenZa> We'd almost be obsolete.
[15:08] <MenZa> heh, yeah
[15:08] <MenZa> That would be better.
[15:09] <Pici> I have a feeling that we'll be seeing this guy again though :/
[15:14] <MenZa> :\
[15:20] <kkathman> Good day folks
[15:32] <cyberbluntz> Hey, why is ubuntu shipping a kismet version from 08?!
[15:34] <Mamarok> cyberbluntz: what can we help you with?
[15:34] <Pici> cyberbluntz: I think you have the wrong channel, this isn't a support channel.
[15:37] <cyberbluntz> umm you can help me with updating the packages?
[15:38] <cyberbluntz> how to file bug
[15:52]  * MenZa ideas.
[15:52] <MenZa> Meh, nevermind. It was silly anyway.
[16:37]  * Mamarok is off to work, bbl
[16:41] <jussi01> Now, that feels much better.
[16:42] <jussi01> Sauna is an amazing thing.. :D Especially a wood fired sauna with only candle/natural outside light.
[16:44] <genii> Hm "<xae8koo> Does ubuntu have a built in gui to encrypt porn?"
[16:45] <MenZa> o_O
[16:45] <jussi01> he could have just said videos...
[16:45] <genii> Hehe
[16:45] <Pici> or pictures
[16:47] <Pici> or.. meh. I'm giving up on the joke
[18:47]  * genii scrounges up a real coffee, sips it furtively in the corner where his doctor can't see
[18:49]  * genii slides jussi01 a coffee
[18:49]  * knome tickles genii from the armpit
[18:49] <genii> knome: Careful, i may spill hot coffee on you!
[18:50] <knome> oops, now the coffee is all over you and the floor
[18:50] <knome> ;)
[19:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hey, I was just wondering if we could get someone to watch a user named soa in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[19:08] <MenZa> SpaceGhostC2C: Don't worry, we've got our eyes on the channel.
[19:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> He keeps trolling and being really annoying. I think topyli is on it.
[19:08] <MenZa> He is. :)
[19:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> I guess I was wondering why it was cool for soa to troll me and others, and not be talked to.
[19:11] <topyli> it is not cool, don't worry about it
[19:11]  * MenZa snuggles topyli 
[19:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> topyli, thanks bro. I wasn't trying to attack you. I was trying to make light of it and ask for help without coming to #ubuntu-ops.
[19:13] <topyli> good, good. long as nobody attacks nobody, i'm happy enough
[19:14]  * MenZa nods sagely.
[19:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> Now mah record is hasing a tarnished.
[19:14]  * SpaceGhostC2C cries in corner.
[19:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> later though.
[22:27] <Younder> hi all
[22:27] <ikonia> hello
[22:28] <Younder> I seem to have a issue with rm -r /
[22:28] <Younder> the all erasor
[22:28] <ikonia> errr ? you do know this is #ubuntu-ops, not #ubuntu
[22:28] <Younder> yes, I am sendt here
[22:29] <ikonia> why ?
[22:29] <ikonia> this isn't a support channel
[22:29] <Younder> I am a expert Linux user. using warious Nixen for 20 + years
[22:30] <ikonia> so why are you telling us this ?
[22:30] <ikonia> eg: what do you need from the operators in this channel ?
[22:30] <Younder> disipline ?
[22:31] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I'm not following. Do you need anything from the operators ?
[22:31] <Younder> no, go on
[22:32] <ikonia> if you don't need anything from us, there is a no idle policy on the channel, however you're welcome to rejoin if you do need something from us
[22:32] <Younder> well I'm idle
[22:32] <ikonia> please don't, unless you need something from us
[22:33] <Younder> what do you do?
[22:33] <ikonia> in what respect
[22:33] <Younder> do you fix stuff?
[22:33] <topyli> Younder, were you redirected here from another channel? were you perhaps banned in #ubuntu?
[22:33] <Younder> topyli, yes
[22:34] <topyli> Younder, do you know why? would you like to fix it?
[22:34] <Younder> I made a lude remark on rm -r / and spring cleaning :)
[22:35] <ikonia> perhaps mentioning this when I asked if you needed anything would be helpful
[22:35] <topyli> that will easily get you removed, yes. also, it's not a very appropriate place for smileys
[22:35] <Younder> whatwever. it was ajoke
[22:36] <topyli> no
[22:37] <Younder> it was!
[22:37] <topyli> as you can see, it is not considered a joke on ubuntu channels
[22:37] <Younder> you take this all to seriosly.
[22:38] <Younder> well it is obvious. To me there is no great revelation.
[22:38] <topyli> if you say so. we try and keep the channels safe and nice
[22:38] <Younder> And you are aying I am not a safe member?
[22:38] <topyli> i'm saying harmful commands are harmful
[22:38] <Younder> I have helped over 200 peple so far..
[22:39] <topyli> good
[22:39] <Younder> This is my first and my last
[22:40] <topyli> that would be nice
[22:41] <Younder> look i genuinly appologise for my rm thing. It won't happen again.
[22:41] <topyli> i'm wondering why you couldn't join #ubuntu though, i can't find any ban
[22:41] <Younder> it's still there
[22:43] <ikonia> Younder: what message do you get when you try to join
[22:43] <Younder> Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[22:44] <ikonia> found it
[22:45] <ikonia> I've removed the ban
[22:45] <Younder> thx