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| cjohnston | newz2000: pre-meeting meeting question.. you can answer during the meeting though.. are teams going to be required to stick to the template provided? | 16:12 |
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| newz2000 | I may be one or two min late, will be close though | 16:23 |
| cjohnston | ok.. my dad is over.. so ping me when your ready | 16:23 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: I'm here but I can delay for a bit if needed | 16:31 |
| cjohnston | newz2000: is 1200 est ok? sorry | 16:41 |
| cjohnston | if not, i can start now | 16:41 |
| newz2000 | yep, that's fine | 16:41 |
| newz2000 | so in about 20m? | 16:41 |
| cjohnston | ok.. yes | 16:41 |
| cjohnston | thanks | 16:41 |
| cjohnston | newz2000: he just left.. so im ready whenever | 16:45 |
| newz2000 | ok, lets go | 16:45 |
| newz2000 | To answer your question, I think that yes, they need to use it unless we give them permission to change that | 16:46 |
| cjohnston | ok | 16:46 |
| newz2000 | and I can discuss this with the community council to make it a policy | 16:46 |
| cjohnston | ok | 16:46 |
| * newz2000 adds that to his todo list | 16:46 | |
| * newz2000 will check to see if the community council even needs to be involved | 16:47 | |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 16:47 |
| cjohnston | So you were wanting to talk about the tecnical side of this? | 16:49 |
| newz2000 | yes | 16:49 |
| newz2000 | You'll have to forgive me, I'm a bit sick and my head is not working at normal speed | 16:50 |
| cjohnston | no problem.. | 16:50 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: Do you know what I mean when I refer to the "critical path" in project management? | 16:50 |
| cjohnston | nope | 16:50 |
| newz2000 | it is the parts of the project, and their order, that must be completed for the project to be a success | 16:51 |
| newz2000 | (and cannot be cut out) | 16:51 |
| cjohnston | sounds logical enough | 16:51 |
| newz2000 | So we need to define the critical parts and decide the order and dates that they will be done | 16:51 |
| cjohnston | ok... | 16:52 |
| newz2000 | You start. :-) | 16:52 |
| cjohnston | so things like url structure, template, gather resources.. stuff like that? | 16:53 |
| cjohnston | and then obvoiusly code | 16:53 |
| newz2000 | yeah | 16:53 |
| cjohnston | uggh.. wiki | 16:54 |
| newz2000 | yeah, we're still getting slashdotted | 16:54 |
| cjohnston | Well.. URL structure needs to be near the top... | 16:54 |
| cjohnston | but that should be pretty easy | 16:54 |
| newz2000 | I think that the URL structure can make the life of the js devs easier or harder depending on if it's well planned or not | 16:55 |
| cjohnston | there are two main parts of the project, that can be done at the same time or seperate are the coding and the gathering of resources/actual localizing.. | 16:55 |
| cjohnston | since we determined last week that we dont really need the translations to code | 16:56 |
| cjohnston | I understand what your saying, but I don't know how... ;-) | 16:56 |
| newz2000 | It may be appropriate to set up a meeting for people interested in the technical side. | 16:57 |
| cjohnston | Agreed... | 16:57 |
| newz2000 | Some of the outcomes of that meeting should be: | 16:58 |
| newz2000 | a. Agree on a URL structure | 16:58 |
| newz2000 | b. Find out who will actually do the code | 16:58 |
| newz2000 | c. ??? | 16:58 |
| newz2000 | d. Profit | 16:58 |
| newz2000 | scratch that last one. ;-) | 16:59 |
| cjohnston | lol | 16:59 |
| cjohnston | by url structure, are you meaning something like w.u.c/Local/en_US? | 17:00 |
| newz2000 | yeah | 17:01 |
| cjohnston | ok | 17:01 |
| newz2000 | I think coming to that point implies some actual technical discussions about how the code will actually work | 17:01 |
| newz2000 | So it might be good to start it on the mailing list | 17:02 |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 17:02 |
| newz2000 | the next part of the critical path will be... | 17:03 |
| cjohnston | So basically if the browser choice is es_MX then it would look for Local/es_MX, and if es_MX doesnt exist it would look for /Local/es? | 17:03 |
| newz2000 | That seems to make sense to me | 17:03 |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 17:03 |
| newz2000 | Is the next step to create the Template to be localized? | 17:04 |
| cjohnston | Prior to that there needs to be a template.. | 17:04 |
| cjohnston | But the template shouldnt be required prior to code.. nor code prior to template | 17:04 |
| newz2000 | right | 17:04 |
| cjohnston | Since I cant work on the wiki.. http://etherpad.com/SoCfQHOdCn | 17:06 |
| cjohnston | my notes | 17:06 |
| cjohnston | Is it possible to have two critical path's.. one translation side and one code side? | 17:07 |
| cjohnston | possible is probably the wrong word.. valid I guess may be a better one | 17:08 |
| newz2000 | we can do it however we want | 17:08 |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 17:08 |
| cjohnston | On the technical side, I will definatly need help.. I'm sure that more needs to be added than just write code, test, implement | 17:10 |
| newz2000 | well, what is needed from you is leadership | 17:10 |
| newz2000 | so set dates, write emails, do follow up | 17:10 |
| cjohnston | right... | 17:10 |
| newz2000 | I am at your disposal, so think of me as a resource | 17:12 |
| cjohnston | Should I leave the technical path until the meeting with the people interested and let them help determine what it should be? | 17:13 |
| newz2000 | I would start like this... | 17:14 |
| newz2000 | let's focus on the technical path first, getting it started | 17:14 |
| newz2000 | then once it's rolling start the template and then the localization | 17:14 |
| cjohnston | Ok.. | 17:14 |
| newz2000 | we'll need cooperation between teams for that | 17:14 |
| newz2000 | A good way to start would be to have a kick-off email to start discussions | 17:15 |
| newz2000 | give an overview of the project, ask for specific help, and then start the planning for a meeting | 17:15 |
| cjohnston | is there a preferred language for this? js... anything else? | 17:18 |
| newz2000 | js, definitely | 17:18 |
| cjohnston | completely in js? | 17:19 |
| newz2000 | probably | 17:20 |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 17:20 |
| cjohnston | I'll start writing the email now.. but not going to send out until I get back from vacation. | 17:20 |
| newz2000 | ok | 17:20 |
| cjohnston | were you going to still send an email announcing the project and me as the leader? i think you had mentioned that at one point | 17:21 |
| newz2000 | oh yeah, I can do that | 17:23 |
| newz2000 | I will do that | 17:24 |
| newz2000 | when do you come back from vacation? | 17:24 |
| cjohnston | Next Saturday.. the 13th is when I actually come back | 17:24 |
| * newz2000 checks his cal | 17:25 | |
| newz2000 | I will probably announce a week from tomorrow then | 17:26 |
| cjohnston | okie | 17:26 |
| cjohnston | and I'll shoot for the day after I get abck for my email | 17:26 |
| newz2000 | ok | 17:26 |
| newz2000 | Should we adjourn our meeting? | 17:27 |
| cjohnston | sure. :-) | 17:27 |
| newz2000 | ok | 17:27 |
| * newz2000 goes to take a nap | 17:31 | |
| cjohnston | ooo | 17:32 |
| cjohnston | that sounds fun | 17:32 |
| cjohnston | enjoy | 17:32 |
| cjohnston | the wiki is driving me nut | 18:29 |
| cjohnston | nuts | 18:29 |
| jamalta | hi there! | 19:13 |
| cjohnston | hey jamalta | 19:14 |
| cjohnston | newz2000: i forwarded you an email from jamalta... :-) | 19:14 |
| jamalta | just to confirm, ubuntu.com is on drupal, right? | 19:15 |
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