=== jonathan__ is now known as jjesse === QDA4 is now known as scream [00:36] eeeBotu will be offline for 1 hour while in transit to a new home [00:39] * genii wonders what kind of cage you transport a creature like that in [00:40] genii: faraday [00:40] Hehe, nice === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [01:26] sorry for the bug spam; I'm attempting to triage all existing pulseaudio bugs this evening === jonathan_ is now known as jjesse [01:34] crimsun: That's an admirable goal. Best of luck! [01:35] it's actually pretty incredible how many bugs we've squashed during this cycle [01:35] the remaining bugs are largely linux or gnome-media [01:36] e.g., the one that sitsofe mentioned in -devel is actually gnome-media [01:38] How many of those transition to indicator-sound ? [01:41] none so far [01:42] I'll go back through with a finer comb after the first 500 or so [01:43] does anybody here know how to redefine the auto-mounting procedures in nautilus. #ubuntu doesnt seem to have a clue [01:49] mtx_init: I saw a hint about that on #ubuntu-devel within the past 48 hours, between pitti and ogra. Check the logs. [01:49] I dont keep logs, um are there public ones? [01:49] Might not be precisely what you seek, but it's always better to pull stuff from talk between devs than try to distract them at arbitrary times of day. [01:49] irclogs.ubuntu.com [01:50] cool thanks [01:59] persia: he claims gnome will respect fstab, so il give it a shot. [02:00] mtx_init: Good luck. [02:19] Can somebody check out Bug #391054 and confirm for me? It's been "new" for a very long time, and I've just verified the problem still exists for me. [02:19] Launchpad bug 391054 in libquicktime (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "unable to view inline quicktime video on Firefox (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391054 [02:21] Bother. Needs firefox. [02:22] persia: actually, exists on Opera and Chrome as well I've just discovered [02:23] so possibly/likely also Konqueror. Haven't tried there yet [02:25] I can try in epiphany, but most embedded videos fail for me generally, so I'm really unsure it's a good test. [02:25] If I had firefox, I'd happily confirm it, just on general principles, but I'm less sure when its a different brower, different DE, etc. [02:26] Understood. [02:27] There's got to be at least one other person with firefox here. [03:33] wolfger: still need that tested out? [03:37] bug status is still New, Undecided, making the answer almost certainly "Yes". [03:42] just unsuccessfully tried to play http://gallery.me.com/jhschettler#100436 on opera, SRWare Iron, opera & google chrome. are we sure it's not a site related issue? [03:42] oops, 2nd opera shoiuld be firefox [03:44] nigelb: welcome to hell... or as I like to call it Bug Control :D [03:44] still trying to understand the reasonling behind Bug #531493 change [03:44] Launchpad bug 531493 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Switch "Shut Down" to "Switch Off" and "Suspend" to "Sleep" (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531493 [03:46] anyone here know the issue networkmanager in lucid alpha3 ? which is its keep connecting ... either wired @ wireless ? [03:49] ejat: no problems with n-m on lucid here [03:49] maybe check in #ubuntu+1 [03:50] kermiac: u r using lucid alpha3? [03:50] yeah [03:50] both @ work & home n-m has been rock solid for me (so far) [03:50] !ohmy | bcurtiswx [03:50] bcurtiswx: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [03:50] persia: ahh, you're right i did use that word [03:51] wondering y .. [03:51] kermiac: any idea how should i trace it ? [03:51] well its only appropriate i apologize to everyone. I can't delete it, and I'm sorry about that [03:51] bcurtiswx: No worries. Happens to us all sometimes. [03:52] i understand it happens, still worth an apology :D [03:52] ejat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager [03:52] Certainly, for the same reasons it gets an ohmy :) [03:53] kermiac: how about your gwibber? [03:53] i haven't used gwibber in lucid yet [03:55] ejat: people in #ubuntu+1 would probably be using it [03:55] kermiac: owh ok thanks a lot [03:55] np ejat :) [03:55] i don't have my lucid box at hand atm - I'm at work [03:56] kermiac: ic .. so u r on karmic now is it .. [03:56] actually jaunty, lol [03:57] at work our SOE is still jaunty... hanging out for for Lucid to update our SOE [03:59] kermiac: You'll want to get some serious testing in on the jaunty->lucid upgrade path. There's a good chance it works, but most testing will be focused on hardy->lucid and karmic->lucid. [03:59] persia: we just backup & do a fresh install. that way we avoid a lot of not so fun issues [04:00] got a pxe server that does most of the grunt work for us :) [04:00] * kermiac hasn't had much luck with upgrades [04:00] You'll still want to test user data compatibility :) [04:01] true - I'm currently setting up a lucid box to try our "wierd stuff" atm. But I don't forsee any major dramas [04:02] mostly it's simply emails, FF profiles, virtualbox & other "basic" stuff [04:03] FF is sure to break. [04:04] micahg: Do you have a profile upgrade tool for karmic->lucid, or are you sticking with the traditional "migrate the bookmarks and cookies and warn the user" model? [04:04] my current work-around is exporting their bookmarks to html & then re-importing on the fresh install. The majority of the addons our users have installed were installed in our SOE [04:05] kermiac: The trick is to work with other folks to get those scripts into the upgrade process so that *everyone* benefits :) [04:07] persia: yeah .. agreed with that [04:11] persia: i do agree.... but I really have never had any luck doing upgrades. It always causes too many issues. I know I *should* do that, but I just can't seem to get upgrades to work [04:12] so doing a fresh install through our pxe server saves me a lot of headaches further down the track [04:12] kermiac: Test the upgrades. Sort the bugs, and then it works smoothly for you :) [04:14] persia: for which program?> [04:14] firefox? [04:14] persia: I know... that's really what I *should* be doing [04:14] micahg: Yeah. [04:14] persia: the profile directory is the same [04:14] kermiac: Excellent. Knowing is half the battle :) [04:14] shouldn't be any issue [04:14] micahg: Oh cool! THat didn't used to be true. [04:15] persia: I had no issue going from 3.5 to 3.6 [04:15] it's a compromise between keeping management & users happy & getting bugs fixed :) [04:15] but some people do [04:15] if you have an issue, please file a bug :) [04:15] but if all your extensions are current, there should be no issue [04:16] micahg: My issues were *old* (2.0 or so). That it's fixed is an excellent thing. [04:16] from 3.0 up, I think the profiles are compatible I think [04:18] I'll believe you, as I'm sure you tested [04:39] folks, when you come across "sound skipping" issues in Lucid, they're *linux* bugs, not *pulseaudio* ones [04:40] please triage correctly, thanks! [04:41] This is true even when someone selects an absurd resampler on a 200MHz ARM box? [04:41] yes [04:41] Cool. That makes it easy. [04:41] skipping at this point is a driver issue and not a buffering issue in PA [04:44] ok, thanks for the info :) [06:39] how to fix this ? http://pastebin.com/zHjaQWzT ? libgd2-noxpm and libg2 also are removed [07:30] anyone know of existing bug # for maximise/minimise buttons being swapped around in new lucid themes? (i.e. maximise/minimise/close instead of minimise/maximise/close) [08:36] how to fix this error ? http://pastebin.com/2cSMkQNN ActionParsnip [08:42] hggdh: do you know what's happening with eeebotu for bugs-announce? just wondering as I noticed your comment about changing homes & he hasn't come back [08:53] murangetto! [08:57] finally http://www.mangler.org/download/ [10:41] when login page comes up , mouse and keyboard does not work , how to fix it ? [10:59] I'm thinking #189517 should be marked as importance wishlist, can a controller please take a look and change if he/she agrees? [10:59] based on the last comment.. === xeros_ is now known as xeros [11:50] hello can anyone tell me how to make terminal show latest errors? like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dogtail/+bug/530064/comments/11 like how charlie got this file? [11:50] Launchpad bug 530064 in dogtail (Ubuntu) "In clean Xubuntu 9.10 installed Dogtail not opening. (affects: 1)" [Medium,Triaged] === Kangarooo1 is now known as Kangarooo [11:55] Kangarooo: as the attachment description says, he cut that out of '~/.xsession-errors' (thats where the terminal stderr messages from gui apps get logged to) [11:56] ah i thought that was a comand . ok thx [12:00] having bug with hibernation [12:25] :) [12:29] morning kamusin! [12:30] good moving pedro_ [12:30] another one [12:34] kamusin, yup, my glass of water showed me that :-P and i'm looking at http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/S_America_eqs.php , because i'm feeling the ground move a bit every 5 minutes or so [13:38] pedro_!! glad to see you [13:39] hello greg-g! thanks ! :-) [13:44] pedro_: hiho [13:44] hello there BlackZ [13:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/522928 <- anyone able to set to public? [13:51] ikt: Error: Bug #522928 is private. [14:06] hggdh: ping :) [14:19] announce bot is dead? [14:19] kamusin: what do you mean? [14:19] bot of bugs-announce channel is not working though [14:22] oh [14:24] er [14:24] kamusin: just noticed it [14:24] I've poked jussi [14:24] which means someone (which means myself) connected a network cable wrong yesterday evening [14:25] nigelb: the bot is under my control [14:25] :O [14:25] hggdh: ah, you should say that in the topic ;) [14:25] I should if I could :-) [14:26] mornin [14:26] hehe [14:26] I will get there this afternoon, and will check it/resolve it [14:27] that person should be fired [14:27] :-P [14:28] haha [14:29] hggdh: should I attempt to update the topic in -announce? [14:29] micahg: if you have access, yes, please do so [14:29] hggdh: what should it say? [14:29] hum [14:30] that eeeBotu suffered from an inexperienced cabler, but should be back in the next 6 hours [14:30] lol [14:30] ugh, I guess I don't have access, it's running in +t [14:31] most channels are :( [14:31] micahg: want me to poke an op? [14:32] nigelb: that's up to hggdh [14:33] im kinda liking purple [14:33] micahg: well, only brian or irccouncil can do that [14:33] hum [14:33] I will run it from my laptop, give me five [14:34] oh, btw, I got into bug control :) [14:34] nigelb: congrats! [14:34] nigelb: welcome aboard [14:34] thanks qense, bcurtiswx :) [14:35] we need some kind of initiation.... ok maybe not [14:35] blanket party? [14:35] :-P [14:36] congrats nigelb [14:36] OK, eeeBotu is back [14:37] I will beat the network into submission as soon as I get back there [14:37] kamusin: ^ [14:38] network violence is not the answer hggdh [14:38] lol [14:39] it is not network violence, it is just a 10-pound mallet gently applied [14:39] everytime you gently apply 10 pound mallet a baby loses its blanket.. please.. hggdh.. think of the babies! [14:40] yay! [14:40] thanks hggdh [14:42] hggdh: I'm actually doing some triaging.. :-x [14:42] ok, ok, ok, I get it. It is probably just a bad crimping connection. The mallet would help a bit [14:43] cjohnston: GOOD! ;-) [14:43] lol [14:43] I actually have a little spare time... [14:43] lol [14:43] i wish I had spare time [14:43] Ok.. Maybe I should be packing.... But still [14:43] heh [14:43] I wish I had a spare network cable [14:43] going on a big trip there cjohnston? [14:43] bcurtiswx_: a cruise [14:43] for a week [14:43] <---jealous [14:43] most are [14:44] [14:48] whats the package for panel icons? [14:48] or if it is a visual problem, would it go under the theme? [14:55] thank you micahg [14:55] nigelb: what did I do now? [14:55] bcurtiswx: initiation? [14:55] micahg: lol, you congratulated me. (I'm just back from dinner ) [14:56] ah, k [14:57] the rhythmbox graphs looks neat, for now ;) [14:57] http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/rhythmbox [14:59] Can someone look at bug 532691 and see if they agree with me [14:59] Launchpad bug 532691 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Seperator in panel hard to see when using new themes (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532691 [15:04] cjohnston: shouldn't they go under 2 different packages? [15:06] nigelb: what packages? [15:06] Arent they both under light-themes? [15:06] not sure [15:08] cjohnston: sorry, my mistake, same :) [15:08] I just filed 3 bug reports on the new theme [15:09] I could maybe see seperating them because one is dark and one is light.. but still same package.. thought? [15:12] cjohnston: yes. It was me not being up to date on rss feeds [15:13] yes seperate? [15:13] cjohnston: its same pacakge [15:16] bug 532699 [15:16] Launchpad bug 532699 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Network icon in panel is too dark using Ambiance (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532699 [15:16] bug 532696 [15:16] Launchpad bug 532696 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Search for files icon in panel is too dark using Ambiance (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532696 [15:16] nigelb: [15:16] lookin [15:19] about to file another one as well [15:21] maybe not [15:21] the last one has already been filed [15:21] cjohnston: that is a bug in nm applet , it is an old bug where the icon does not refresh , re-login and check [15:21] vish: which one? [15:22] vish: about colors? [15:22] cjohnston: icon too dark [15:22] k [15:22] looking [15:23] two are still happening [15:23] cjohnston: hmm , then also mention what icon theme is in use , in the bug report [15:24] bug 532699 is fixed.. [15:24] Launchpad bug 532699 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Network icon in panel is too dark using Ambiance (affects: 1)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532699 [15:25] vish: I assume its whatever the default is.. i dont even know how to change it [15:25] ahh [15:25] mono dark [15:25] cjohnston: k.. the icon bug is fixed? [15:25] nm icon [15:25] just the network icon is light enough. [15:26] is there a bug i should mark 532699 as a dup against since its the nm applet? or change it to nm applet? [15:27] vish: how is icon brightness in theme related to the actual applet though? I'm confused [15:28] nigelb: he is saying its a bug that it doesnt refresh to reflect the new icon i believe [15:28] cjohnston: but thats not our issue here. Its just something related to the theme [15:29] the network icon seems to not be the theme.. seems to be that it didnt refresh. the other two seem to be the theme [15:31] cjohnston: oh you mean to say that the icon from the theme is not being used by the nm applet? ah! [15:36] Is bug 532508 a light-theme bug? [15:36] Launchpad bug 532508 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Low contrast in pidgin message inbox status bar with Radiance (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532508 [15:36] I know its a theme issue, but I don't know if its light-theme or pidgin [15:42] can a bug control person please mark bug 532687 atleast medium.. but probably high... the buttons arent even visible until you mouse over them [15:42] Launchpad bug 532687 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "in the log-in screen the controls are barely visible (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532687 [15:48] cjohnston: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance - that bug is low [15:50] it fits: A bug that has a moderate impact on a core application. [15:50] and id say it fits: Has a moderate impact on a large portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) [15:51] is there bug of people complaining they liked the bright green filler the indicator applet had before the light-theme changes? [15:52] probably vish would know [15:52] bcurtiswx_: you mean for the wireless network? [15:52] no.. the indicator applet would fill in bright green when I got a new IM [15:52] now it doesn't anymore.. and i liked it [15:53] oh [15:53] ya... [15:53] there is [15:53] hold on [15:53] bug 532364 [15:53] Launchpad bug 532364 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Messaging inicator isnt obvious when a message is recieved (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532364 [15:53] ? [15:55] yes, i attached a screenshot too [15:56] how do I update my git to have the most recent stuff? [15:56] is it just git update? [15:56] git me a beer? [15:57] if my computer could actually do that.. i'd never leave it [15:57] * cjohnston wonders if i can teach my 4 year old to do that [15:58] is the humanity icon theme changing? [16:01] cjohnston: would you say that bug is a regression-potential since the indicator applet was green and they changed it? [16:02] possible [16:14] hggdh: with bug 532575, should it be against OO or against light-theme? [16:14] Launchpad bug 532575 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "OpenOffice.org main menu can't be seen in new Lucid 'Light' theme (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532575 [16:15] cjohnston: I would say against the light-theme. A screenshot would be good also [16:16] ok [16:16] thanks [16:16] cjohnston: if you can take it even better (no need to ask the OP) [16:16] yup [16:16] wow, went to bed last nigth with 0 unread bug mails from LP, woke this morning with 50. [16:16] how many were from me? [16:17] :-) the fire is burning strong... [16:17] greg-g: I woke up to 150 new mails [16:17] I still haven't gotten around to finishing them all [16:19] cjohnston: i think maybe a couple, actually [16:19] nigelb: wow [16:23] can someone look at bug 532491.. im thinking it should be wishlist [16:23] Launchpad bug 532491 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "could be more consistent (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532491 [16:23] but maybe wontfix/invalid [17:14] bah... new theme fails [17:14] i can't see my bookmarks in firefox :) [17:51] ivoks: is there a bug report about that? [17:51] yep [17:51] ivoks: that seems like something that shouldn't be overlooked [17:51] oh, good [17:51] bug number? [17:51] * greg-g is curious [17:51] i just reported it [17:51] :) [17:52] bug 532798 [17:52] Launchpad bug 532798 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[ambience] bookmarks in firefox navigation toolbar are invisible (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532798 [17:53] wow [17:53] heh [17:53] text color is the same as background [17:53] so, they are invisible :) [17:55] but, bug 532259 is much worse [17:55] Launchpad bug 532259 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Dark text on Dark backround dropdown list firefox (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532259 [17:56] this one might even cause epileptic seizures :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:58] ivoks: yeah, all dark themes have had that particular problem with Fx's OmniBar [17:59] ivoks: I don't have either one of those problems [17:59] really? [17:59] hrmmm [18:00] i guess im not using omnibar.. but no [18:01] ok.. this is driving me nuts.. [18:01] heh [18:01] can i change my spellcheck dictionary from en_GB to en_US [18:02] cjohnston: well, this is lucid, up to date, ambience theme [18:03] ivoks: thats what im running [18:03] darkroom doesn't have that problem [18:03] text is white [18:03] dust has the same problem [18:03] naptime is coming soon.... [18:03] yay [18:03] cjohnston: are you sure your bookmarks are in navigation toolbar, not bookmark toolbar? [18:05] i guess i have the opposite issue.. file edit view etc are all a regular color and not dark [18:05] that's correct [18:05] and those are fine for me too [18:05] but bookmarks in that toolbar are invisible [18:06] bookmarks = dark, file edit view = white/grey === radoe_ is now known as radoe [18:06] hmm [18:07] right click on navigation toolbar -> customize [18:07] drag your bookmarks into navigation toolbar [18:09] ivoks: i just uplaoded a screeny of what im seeing [18:11] cjohnston: commented on that gwibber bug that doesn't want to die. It works for me now (after restarting my computer, probably could have just restarted destktopcouch, but, whatever, had a kernel upgrade too) [18:11] ya [18:11] i think i may have had to restart the system too [18:11] dont remember [18:12] but afterwards, lernid and gwibber both worked [18:12] but, we had a commenter say that he is still experiencing it, I'm waiting to see his traceback [18:13] greg-g: are you using the mac background? [18:13] i mean, the new ubuntu background.. the purple one [18:13] heh :) [18:13] yeah [18:13] do you have a white outline around it? [18:14] yes, I've had that for a while in Lucid now [18:14] hmm [18:14] thought it was "by design" for some reason, though I haven't looked [18:14] is there a bug against it? [18:14] my lappy doesnt have it [18:14] but desktop does [18:14] compiz running on both? [18:15] ya [18:15] one is normal one is extra [18:15] it is a bug , but i nevr got around to filing it or searching for it :( [18:15] hmm [18:16] ok.. off to look i go [18:16] i suck at searching for bugs tho :-x [18:16] it wont be present when you login [18:16] but if you rename anything on the desktop the line appears [18:16] it's not only with new background [18:16] it's with all [18:16] border rather [18:17] yeah , not related to background , its been there for a while [18:17] good call vish [18:17] confirmed everyhting you just said [18:17] hello everyone. does anybody want to volunteer to do a gnome-power-manager bug day? [18:17] why not ;) [18:18] heh [18:18] you don't know what you're letting yourself in for ;) [18:18] oops /me hides , just in case ;) [18:18] lol [18:19] vish - i'm looking at your display blanking issue again now [18:19] maybe i'll finish it just in time to upload for the weekend [18:19] \o/ [18:19] I'm not seeing anything related to that bug.. anyone else want to take a stab at a quick search before a file one? [18:20] cjohnston: chrisccoulson might know [18:20] hmmm [18:20] might know? [18:20] have you heard of the bug , where the border is drawn [18:20] on the desktop? [18:20] yes [18:20] yeah , when the renaming anything on desktop [18:21] it's already reported somewhere [18:21] is it a nautilus bug? or gtk? [18:21] bug 507263 for example [18:21] Launchpad bug 507263 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Light 1px border around desktop (affects: 42) (dups: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507263 [18:21] bug 507263 [18:21] fine [18:21] be that way [18:21] ty chrisccoulson [18:22] ty! [18:22] * cjohnston is still trying to figure out how the heat thing works.. this has 43 people it says it effects, but no heat [18:23] i've no idea either [18:33] * cjohnston is happy that he feels like he did a little bit of productive work with the bugsquad today.. something that i normally dont get to do [18:33] ivoks: did you see the screenshot i uploaded? [18:35] cjohnston: nope [18:35] the ff bug [18:35] bug 532259 [18:36] Launchpad bug 532259 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Dark text on Dark backround dropdown list firefox (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532259 [18:36] cjohnston: err [18:36] cjohnston: you missed a bug [18:37] ? [18:37] cjohnston: and a location for bookmarks :D [18:37] well, i guess that was my fault, cause i said that bookmarks are in navigation toolbar :) [18:38] cjohnston: the bug where you pasted your screenshot is about blue and dark [18:38] nm [18:38] i understand now [18:38]