[00:03]  * Obsidian1723 laterz all.
[00:06] <kermit> i think that /mg was an automated mass message, i saw it in another channel with the same timestamp.
[00:12] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: now I am
[00:13] <Takyoji> considering the new logo and themeing of Ubuntu, somewhat implies a theme change of our LoCo may be soon as well
[00:13] <Takyoji> of our LoCo website
[00:13] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I liked the old logo better, but I don't care that much.
[00:14] <Takyoji> at the same time; there isn't a public SVG that I can find yet of the new logo
[00:15] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I don't see a need to duplicate effort on that front - we can pull down a new theme from upstream when they revise it.
[03:05] <Takyoji> Are there any other federated communication/social networking protocols other than Jabber/XMPP?
[03:14] <kermit> Takyoji: IRC
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> IRC's not federated.
[03:17] <kermit> also bonjour
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> That would mean that I could do something like "/msg billybog ON oftc" and have it work while I'm only connected to Freenode.
[03:17] <kermit> i don't know what is meant by 'federated' in this context
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> Unconnected servers/users being able to communicate by the design of the protocol.
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> like e-mail - AOL users can send mail to GMail users.
[03:19] <kermit> federated means non propriatary?
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> And unlike AIM, where AIM users can not send messages to Yahoo users.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> No.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> federation is about design, not code availability/licensing.
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> It is frequently the case that proprietary things are non-federated and many open ones are, but that is a related result, not a necessary consequence.
[03:21] <kermit> is bonjour 'federated' ?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> I have no idea - I've never used it.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> nor read about it, or anything.
[03:22] <kermit> what's another example of 'federated' besides jabber?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> e-mail, I just said :)
[03:22] <Takyoji> In terms of being decentralized, and being able to communicate between different servers.
[03:22] <kermit> not that i really know how jabber works
[03:22] <Takyoji> Well, email, yes.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> also, StatusNet
[03:23] <kermit> usenet?
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> man, it's been so long since I actually used usenet...
[03:23] <kermit> gnutella?
[03:23] <kermit> it almost sounds like you're describing p2p
[03:23] <kermit> but, then you'd say p2p
[03:24] <Takyoji> I thought there was some specification that Google or some group specified in terms of a protocol that social networking services could communicate with each other.
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> Essentially, it uses the DNS system as the only interconnecting link between nodes rather than a top server of the service.
[03:25] <kermit> Takyoji: http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/ ?
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: OpenMicroblogging, what StatusNet uses.
[03:25] <Takyoji> Ahh yes
[03:26] <Takyoji> OpenSocial was what I was recalling, but slightly misunderstanding
[03:43] <Takyoji> What would be most sane? Squid or SSH tunnelling?
[03:44] <Takyoji> for bypassing filters; I've been using SSH tunnelling in the past, but have been continuing to wonder about using Squid instead.
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> how amused should I be that the most active TCLUG mailing list thread in memory is about the TCLUG mailing list?
[03:57] <Takyoji> :P
[03:59] <Takyoji> YES http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/03/05/027258/Ubisofts-New-DRM-Cracked-In-One-Day
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[20:21] <Obsidian1723> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/914191/Windows_Vista_Aero_vs_Ubuntu_Linux_Beryl.avi
[21:46] <Takyoji> http://www.flickr.com/photos/atendesigngroup/4408396318/sizes/l/in/set-72157623558035182/ :D
[23:27]  * Obsidian1723 for anyone going..see ya at the 2600 Meeting tonight at Java J's. Peace!!