| Havok88 | Hey guys | 01:46 |
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| Havok88 | Does anyone know about the tomboy notes sync issue with U1? Wondering if there are any workarounds; nothing I've tried works | 01:47 |
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| patchmonster | Is there anywhere I could offer a suggestion (without patch >_>)? | 06:29 |
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| duanedesign | throwing together a script that writes my computers package selections to a couchdb. | 20:48 |
| duanedesign | also reads the selections, after Ubuntu One replicates them, to make sure i have all my favorite apps on alll my computers :) | 20:49 |
| aquarius | cool :) | 20:50 |
| aquarius | when you've done that, write about it on your website :) | 20:51 |
| duanedesign | good idea | 20:51 |
| artir | duanedesign: I had the same idea :D | 20:58 |
| artir | you'll need polkit :) | 20:59 |
| artir | because I guess that if you run something as sudo, it uses another couchdb | 20:59 |
| aquarius | you shouldn't be talking to couch as root | 21:00 |
| aquarius | talk to couch as not root and then be root to install the packages | 21:00 |
| artir | that's why polkit is needed | 21:00 |
| artir | at first I thought of creating an "orbiter" sudo application to install the packages sent from the user-space app | 21:01 |
| artir | but then I said, hey, why am i overcomplicating it :D? | 21:01 |
| artir | I may code the actual app in a month | 21:02 |
| artir | for fun! | 21:02 |
| artir | (and evil) | 21:02 |
| duanedesign | artir: yeah i have been coming up with a lot of ideas to practice/entertain myself with couch/U1 | 21:04 |
| duanedesign | artir: thanks for sharing your thoughts on that. I m still on the 'def makeDB():' | 21:04 |
| artir | for the app mention, you could store the package list as a string or separate, and you'll want to separate the packages the system has by default and the ones you installed | 21:05 |
| artir | or just limit the app detection to certain apps and have lists with checkboxes to sync and install that | 21:05 |
| jcastro | anyone know what would be up with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/389200/ | 21:07 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: this is Lucid? | 21:11 |
| jcastro | duanedesign: yep | 21:13 |
| jcastro | I wonder if it's my metadata (again) | 21:13 |
| jcastro | that happened to me last week | 21:13 |
| duanedesign | rye: poke | 21:14 |
| aquarius | that doesn't look like a metadata problem. that looks like a code problem. you might have out-of-sync packages? maybe dist-upgrade again? | 21:14 |
| Voytech | Hey guys, Do You know something about removing databases from desktopcouch ? Will it be implemented in next releases ? | 21:16 |
| aquarius | Voytech, which DBs do you want to remove? YOu can already do so | 21:17 |
| Voytech | auarius,Yes ? I thought that if I remove database it will be replicated back to my desktopcouch if it was replicated previously | 21:18 |
| aquarius | Voytech, it will, but you can remove it on the server too :) | 21:18 |
| Voytech | aquarius, ok but if for example server replicate the database to another computer :) | 21:19 |
| aquarius | Voytech, what do you want to do? completely delete a database from everywhere? | 21:19 |
| aquarius | to do that, delete it on all the clients and delete it on the server at roughly the same time :) | 21:19 |
| Voytech | aquarius, yes | 21:19 |
| Voytech | aquarius, hmmmm but for example I maight have no access to one of my computers which can have a database that should be deleted | 21:21 |
| aquarius | in that case it's a little more awkward, at the moment. | 21:22 |
| Voytech | aquarius, but do You know anything if it will be improved ? | 21:24 |
| aquarius | we don't have anything planned for improving it, but if you've got some ideas, I'd like to hear them | 21:25 |
| Voytech | aquarius, in my opinion there is very simple solution for that situation | 21:25 |
| aquarius | another good way of making sure that this sort of thing doesn' get forgotten is to file a bug about it agaisnt desktopcouch | 21:25 |
| Voytech | aquarius, a replicatable database that for example replicatable_management that will keep a names of databases to be removed | 21:26 |
| Voytech | aquarius, that should be removed | 21:26 |
| aquarius | and then when replication happens, desktopcouch-service looks in that database to see if anything has changed, and then deletes any databases in the list? | 21:27 |
| Voytech | aquarius, If a database is present on desktopcouch it is removed | 21:27 |
| aquarius | hm. | 21:27 |
| Voytech | aquarius, Yes | 21:27 |
| Voytech | aquarius, Isn't it simple ? In my opinion It should work | 21:28 |
| aquarius | the problem with that is that if you create a DB called "voytech", delete it, and then six months later create a new db called "voytech", it'll get deleted even though you didn't want it to | 21:28 |
| Voytech | aquarius, but if You create a database And in record containg removed databases is that name, the name could be removed to not remove it anymore ? :) | 21:29 |
| aquarius | good idea, but it breaks. I'm just writing down why :) | 21:30 |
| aquarius | Imagine you have three computers, A, B, and C, all paired with Ubuntu One. C is not connected to the network. | 21:33 |
| aquarius | A {databases: voytech, deletes: - }, B {databases: voytech, deletes: - }, C {databases: voytech, deletes: - } | 21:33 |
| aquarius | Delete voytech on A. This removes the database and adds it to the deletes list | 21:33 |
| aquarius | A {databases: -, deletes: voytech }, B {databases: voytech, deletes: - }, C {databases: voytech, deletes: - } | 21:33 |
| aquarius | replicate A with Ubuntu One, then replicate B with Ubuntu One. | 21:33 |
| aquarius | A {databases: -, deletes: voytech }, B {databases: voytech, deletes: voytech }, C {databases: voytech, deletes: - } | 21:34 |
| aquarius | B sees the voytech entry in deletes, deletes the voytech DB, and removes voytech from the deletes list | 21:34 |
| aquarius | A {databases: -, deletes: voytech }, B {databases: -, deletes: - }, C {databases: voytech, deletes: - } | 21:34 |
| aquarius | replicate B with Ubuntu One, then replicate C with Ubuntu One (by plugging it into the network) | 21:34 |
| aquarius | A {databases: -, deletes: voytech }, B {databases: -, deletes: - }, C {databases: voytech, deletes: - } | 21:34 |
| aquarius | C doesn't see the "voytech" entry in the deletes list, because you've already removed it. | 21:34 |
| aquarius | Worse, C will then send the voytech database *back* to Ubuntu One, and then it'll appear on all the computers again! | 21:34 |
| Voytech | aquarius, wait a moment I have to look at You have written, I knew that it cannot be so simple to do it, in other case the problem would be solved, but must be solution for that | 21:38 |
| rye | duanedesign, don't know whether that is still valid, but pong | 21:38 |
| Voytech | B sees the voytech entry in deletes, deletes the voytech DB, and removes voytech from the deletes list - why after removing voytech B - deletes it from list ? | 21:41 |
| Voytech | It should be removed only if we create a database which name is in deletes list | 21:42 |
| Voytech | That means we delete it only when current machine on which we are working wants to create such database again ? in other case it may still be in deletes database | 21:43 |
| aquarius | OK, I understand that approach | 21:43 |
| Voytech | <aquarius> Currently I am about to create my own release of desktobcouch that will be compatible with that on ubuntuone - deletion on ubuntuone will be performed by that script -the rest will be as I described above ... I dunno if it will work.. But I'l try. But it may take some time.. I have been never writing in python, so I have to get used to it :) | 21:47 |
| aquarius | if you build it and it works, then submit it as a merge request to desktopcouch and we'll probably include it :) | 21:48 |
| aquarius | I don't really like having a whole database just for this, though :( | 21:48 |
| Voytech | aquarius, Hmmm | 21:49 |
| rye | ok, I am now really going offline. | 21:51 |
| Voytech | aquarius, In fact such aproach makes desktopcouch more hmm ... junky (I do not know if You know what I mean) | 21:51 |
| aquarius | I do know what you mean | 21:52 |
| aquarius | I'd like there to be a better way of doing this, I think :( | 21:52 |
| rye | Re: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/389200/ - that's definitely the code problem | 21:53 |
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| duanedesign | getting some bug reporrts about the Beta/PPA | 23:16 |
| duanedesign | Sorry, the package "ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~" failed to install or upgrade. | 23:16 |
| duanedesign | /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntuone-client-gnome_1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~jaunty_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-login', which is also in package ubuntuone-client | 23:17 |
| duanedesign | this is one of them bug 532934 | 23:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 532934 in ubuntuone-client "package ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~jaunty failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-login', which is also in package ubuntuone-client ..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532934 | 23:23 |
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