[00:40] <duncanidaho1>  I have ubuntu 9.10 installed everything is up and running great.  So I thought I'd give KDE a try.  I installed it, everything seems to be great but getting a wireless connection.  I can see signals that are broadcast but I cannot get connected (in KDE, in Gnome it still works)
[03:51] <holstein> anybody running a lucid studio yet?
[07:48] <jussi01> holstein: ScottL is, iirc
[07:51] <holstein> thanks jussi01
[07:52] <holstein> i got lucid on my EEE today
[07:52] <jussi01> :D
[07:52] <holstein> im looking forward to putting it on my studio box though
[07:58] <jussi01> yeah, should be good
[12:07] <Zus> good morning, any one here use or now of ableton LIVE, and Reason? im looking for  linux versions or something as good or better
[12:09] <Andillusion> There are no "linux-versions" for those products...
[12:10] <Andillusion> what exactly do you need?
[12:10] <jussi01> heh, I was just going to ask that...
[12:11] <Andillusion> hi jussi!
[12:11] <Zus> its the only reason why i still use windows, i have yet found programmes on linux
[12:14] <Zus> with reason i have a lot of synthesizers and software studio, i can make music with, and saved songs can be imported to pro tools for mastering
[12:14] <Andillusion> take a look at www.ardour.org maybe that looks nice to you...
[12:14] <Andillusion> there is no _one software for all_ in linux.
[12:15] <Andillusion> But they all work together in JACK very well.
[12:15] <Zus> ableton is more of a "live" on the fly recording mix and loop  with all sorts of software instruments.
[12:15] <Andillusion> i know.
[12:15] <Andillusion> But linux is different.
[12:16] <Zus> yes it is, im new, been usiing  ubuntu since 9.10 release.
[12:16] <Zus> the ubuntu studio is this  geared for media?
[12:17] <Andillusion> sure it is...
[12:17] <Andillusion> is your audio interface running with jack already?
[12:18] <Zus> no
[12:18] <Andillusion> uhhh... that's a problem you should work at first.
[12:18] <Zus> i boot to my windows drive for my audio, and use rythmbox for my cd's when i use ubuntu
[12:18] <Andillusion> what interface do you use?
[12:19] <Zus> interface as in gnome or KDE? i am using  gnome,  (ubuntu 9.10 karnic)
[12:20] <Andillusion> no sorry... i was thinking audio-interface and writing just interface...
[12:20] <Andillusion> what audio-interface do you use?
[12:21] <Zus> hehe not rightly sure on this machine. on my other i have a soundblaster live card
[12:22] <Zus> if thats what you mean.
[12:23] <Zus> i downloaded live and reason onto the machine and they worked and did what i needed it to do so far, and never thought about much else.
[12:24] <Andillusion> well... if they do what you want and what you need... why do you want to change?
[12:26] <Zus> kinda dont use wiindows for anything else, and was wondering if there are any open source software as powerfull as live and reason...
[12:27] <Zus> and i dont have a midi keyboard or what not i use live's feature to use the "typing" keyboard.
[12:28] <Andillusion> it's perfectly fine to use windows for nothing but music...
[12:29] <Andillusion> ... that's the best way to keep it stable.  ;-)
[12:29] <jussi01> !info hydrogen
[12:30] <jussi01> for midi, theres rosegarden:
[12:30] <jussi01> !info rosegarden
[12:31] <Andillusion> ... this bot is cute !
[12:32] <Zus> nice,.. ill check them out.
[12:32] <jussi01> aww....
[12:32] <Andillusion> !info ardour
[12:32] <jussi01> !owner
[12:32] <jussi01> :D
[12:32] <Andillusion> That impresses me even more.
[12:33] <jussi01> !no, owner is <reply>This bot is owned by jussi01 and kindly hosted by mFabrik - http://mfabrik.com/ - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots
[12:33] <jussi01> company changed name...
[12:34] <Andillusion> ***grin***
[12:35] <Andillusion> Zus: Will that information help you, so far?
[12:35] <Zus> yeah im looking at the ardour link now.
[12:37] <Zus> im hoping i can master with it.... i think it should suit  just fine,...as long as i can import to pro tools, i should be fine,
[12:38] <Andillusion> well... there is no "export to ProTools"-Button...
[12:38] <Andillusion> But you can export your Tracks in Broadcast-Wave format...
[12:39] <Andillusion> ... wich should be importable mostly everywhere.
[12:40] <Zus> on live i was able to save the song file as a .wav and use that. with reason and rebirth i could just patch into it.
[12:48] <Zus> and this is different than, ubuntu,  like  mint is different?
[12:49] <Andillusion> the difference is not that big.
[12:51] <jussi01> !mint
[12:51] <jussi01> you can just install ubuntustudio on top of your standard gnome install
[12:52] <jussi01> !vanilla
[12:53] <Zus> i only know  ubuntu for the past 3 months or so, so many choices,
[12:54] <jussi01> yeah, some people find it all a bit much - they like to be told, use this....
[12:58] <Zus> lets hope my connection holds out while the torrent  does its thing
[13:02] <Andillusion> ...
[13:03] <Zus> thank you guys for the help.
[13:04] <Andillusion> you're welcome.
[13:04] <Andillusion> jussi's done the job.
[13:05] <Zus> i wanted to say thanks before   got  knocked offline... for some reason the wifi works well at night and as the day begins i get less and less of a signal...
[13:09] <Andillusion> here it is 14:05 now... bright sunlight but a little to cold outside.
[13:10] <jussi01> Zus: heh...
[13:12] <Zus>  lol ok...
[13:13] <Zus> did my question go through?
[13:15] <Andillusion> not at all...
[13:20] <Zus> what is all in ubuntu studio? file manager and browser?,  can i install it like  i would KDE with gnome? and  login as a different session?
[13:23] <Andillusion> If you do that
[13:23] <Andillusion> !vanilla
[13:23] <Andillusion> The special things of UbuntuStudio will be added to your existing Ubuntu installation
[13:24] <jussi01> no, its gnome.
[13:24] <jussi01> basically a set of packages with some tweaks
[13:25] <jussi01> so there isnt a different session, it just adds to your current gnome
[13:25] <Andillusion> what do you mean whith "its gnome" ?
[13:25] <jussi01> well it uses the gnome DE
[13:26] <Zus> thast why i asked i didnt see anything on karmic,....  best wait till lucid then... i dont ahve a vanilla install of  ubuntu .. less it dont matter
[13:27] <jussi01> hrm?
[13:27] <Andillusion> ?!?
[13:30] <Zus> if by vanilla install they mean with out installing other programs just yet..]
[13:32] <Zus> hehe, i guess ill wait till lucid, no telling whats been downloaded and deleted  on this, as i've been using  karmic to learn on.
[13:33] <Zus> i still havent gotten my video card and sound card to work  on here  yet
[13:56] <ScottL> Andillusion, you can find more expansive information on upgrading from vanilla to ubuntu studio here:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[13:57] <Andillusion> hmmm... i don't need further information on that, thanks Scott.
[13:58] <Andillusion> But i have another question...
[13:58] <Andillusion> it's about the snd_usb_audio driver...
[13:58] <Zus> i did hehe thanks )
[13:59] <Andillusion> does it support every Class Compliant device?
[13:59] <Andillusion> How can i tell if my USB-Soundcard is Class Compliant?
[14:00] <Andillusion> Or is there any change in any configuration i must make?
[14:01] <Andillusion> Searching the web for VendorID and DeviceID brought no results.  ;-)
[14:02] <Andillusion> hmmm...    silence again...
[14:04] <Zus> reading these links i got here to day, sorry i dont know the answer to your question
[14:04] <Andillusion> i am already browsing the source of ../alsa-driver-1.0.22.1/sound/usb/usbaudio.c
[14:14] <Andillusion> ...
[16:13] <Andillusion> bye...
[20:19] <AJH101> Evening! I installed all the Studio apps (only) in my version of Karmic Koala but I would like to uninstall them and set up an installation in its ouwn partition. Is there any easy way to uninstall the apps or do i need to do it all one by one?! Thanks
[20:19] <holstein> hey AJH101
[20:20] <AJH101> holstein hi
[20:20] <holstein> AFAIK if you install from the meta packages
[20:20] <AJH101> eh?
[20:20] <holstein> the apps are kinda stuck to gether
[20:20] <holstein> together*
[20:20] <holstein> LIKE
[20:20] <AJH101> i just followed a quick bit of terminal code to install them
[20:20] <AJH101> can i do the same to uninstall?
[20:20] <holstein> if you install ubuntustudio-audio
[20:21] <holstein> if you try to uninstall say ardour
[20:21] <holstein> everything else in the metapackage will want to be removed as well
[20:21] <holstein> that was the behavior i have seen in the past
[20:21] <holstein> not too long ago
[20:21] <AJH101> and that is a problem because? i would install everything again in its own partition
[20:22] <holstein> hmm
[20:22] <holstein> SO you had a vanilla karmic install
[20:22] <holstein> you added ubuntu studio packages
[20:22] <holstein> right?
[20:22] <holstein> and now you are?
[20:23] <holstein> the short answer is, if you do sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntustudio-whatever
[20:23] <holstein> you should not need to remove them one at a time
[20:23] <AJH101> wanting to remove them and reinstall studio on its own partition
[20:24] <holstein> hmm
[20:24] <holstein> i would just do whatever you plan on doing to move it
[20:24] <holstein> imaging or whatever
[20:24] <holstein> and just leave the packages there
[20:24] <holstein> unless your going to do a fresh install
[20:24] <holstein> then just do that
[20:25] <AJH101> i may do a fresh install when lucid arrives - that was part of the reason for wanting to get this straight - ok but i am guessing i do not use 'whatever'
[20:26] <holstein> yeah
[20:26] <holstein> whatever ubuntustudio metapackages you installed
[20:27] <holstein> ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics
[20:27] <AJH101> oops - i just cut and pasted some lines - not very helpful! :-(
[20:27] <holstein> if your planning a fresh install
[20:27] <holstein> just backup what you need, and abandon what you got
[20:28] <holstein> you can probably be using lucid
[20:28] <holstein> i put it on my EEE yesterday :)
[20:28] <holstein> i moved, and dont have my studio box here at the new place
[20:28] <holstein> but i plan on installing lucid ASAP
[20:29] <holstein> filing bugs and whatnot
[20:29] <AJH101> ok thanks
[22:55] <pilotbubbles> setting up a keystudio 49 for monitoring on ubuntu if anyone could pm with tips would really appreciate =D
[23:04] <pilotbubbles> pretty please