[00:31] <dashua> kwwii, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/45469/screenshot_002_2Gvg80.png
[00:31] <dashua> All drawn with murrine.
[00:32] <kwwii> dashua: wow, that is interesting
[00:33] <dashua> I can't get more handles like the pixmap.
[00:34] <kwwii> dashua: yeah, and the arrows are not exactly what we want...we are planning to add button looking bits to that
[00:34] <kwwii> but it is a good idea not to use the pixmap engine ;)
[00:34] <andreasn> kwwii, found it the other day when looking for the first monocrome icon set
[00:35] <kwwii> andreasn: hehe, cool
[00:36] <dashua> kwwii, Yeah, I can't seem to set the steppers outside.
[00:37] <kwwii> dashua: it looks promising though, I'd like to see the scrollbars a bit whiter though
[00:37] <dashua> Ok
[00:37] <kwwii> up until a couple of days ago we had differnt scrollbars ;)
[00:37] <dashua> Really?
[00:37] <dashua> Pixmaps?
[00:37] <kwwii> lol, yepp
[00:37] <kwwii> yes
[00:38] <kwwii> but very quite different from the current version
[00:38] <kwwii> lol, very/quite
[00:38] <dashua> They are nice, you just get stuck with the one color though.
[00:44] <kwwii> dashua: it should be easy to change the color of the progress bars with murrine
[00:44] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/45473/screenshot_004_ZqtCFv.png
[00:44] <dashua> This looks pretty good
[00:44] <kwwii> dashua: oooh, nice
[00:45] <kwwii> you have to send me the gtkrc ;)
[00:45] <dashua> Can I branch light-themes?
[00:45] <dashua> I don't see any option for it.
[00:45] <kwwii> yes, but it is not in it's final place in bzr
[00:45] <dashua> I keep junking it for now.
[00:45] <dashua> Ah ok
[00:45] <kwwii> so put in your lp and point me to it ;)
[00:46] <dashua> Sure
[00:46] <kwwii> zacbarton also fixed the win deco buttons just now ;)
[00:46] <dashua> I haven't done Radiance yet
[00:46] <dashua> Awesome
[00:46] <kwwii> what a good way to end the week ;)
[00:46] <dashua> Are you solid with no gradients in the toolbar?
[00:47] <kwwii> honestly, yes
[00:47] <dashua> Ok np
[00:47] <kwwii> good stuff though, I'll show it to my colleagues and see what they think
[00:48] <dashua> Ok cool, I'll get a branch up
[00:48] <dashua> junk
[00:48] <dashua> Thx
[00:48] <kwwii> it is a bit different from our original design but doing it with murrine is much nicer
[00:48] <kwwii> and for now at least, we have to live with what we have ;)
[00:48] <dashua> Yeah, I removed the pixmaps in Dust too
[00:49] <kwwii> now I know what Cimi meant yesterday
[00:49] <kwwii> :p
[00:49] <dashua> It's nice what you can control.
[00:49] <kwwii> indeed
[00:49] <dashua> I see mat_t filed a bug for the border_shade and colors
[00:49] <dashua> That's very easy to do with murrine, rather than making a new image
[00:50] <kwwii> hrm, I wonder what he didn't just tell me ;)
[00:50] <dashua> Hehe
[00:51] <kwwii> oh well, time for sleep
[00:51] <kwwii> gotta get up in 5 hours
[00:54] <dashua> Nite mate
[00:54] <dashua> I'll clean this up and branch it.
[00:56] <kwwii> dashua: cheers, g'night
[01:56] <mrmcq2u> kwii , dashua what do you guys think of the toolbars in this mockup : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/S5EIP0sxDaI/AAAAAAAAGRM/Mhjgn5A0gnE/s1600-h/Banshee_RythmBox_Re_Imagined_by_fibermarupok.jpg
[02:16] <zniavre> dashua, your theme is wonderfull
[09:54] <psyke83> hi, I submitted a page to the Incoming/Lucid wiki. The thumbnails are 800x600, is that ok? When you create a new page, the source tells you to use 600px, but the SubmissionGuidelins page says 300px (which I only noticed afterwards)
[09:58] <thorwil> psyke83: shouldn't be the case
[09:59] <thorwil> psyke83: where exactly does it say that?
[09:59] <psyke83> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/SubmissionGuidelines
[09:59] <psyke83> "Don't include large images in the page directly. Rather use small versions of maximal 300 pixels height and link to the full size image."
[10:01] <psyke83> hmm...
[10:01] <psyke83> I can't find the recommendation about 600px now, one sec
[10:02] <psyke83> ah I was mistaken, it says 300 pixels in both locations
[10:02] <psyke83> I should resize, then, or is it not so strict?
[10:03] <thorwil> psyke83: it said height in one case and width in the other, though. now it's both width
[10:04] <thorwil> psyke83: when i put the 300 px width in, i was mainly thinking about wallpaper pages, where we had a lot of thumbnails
[10:04] <psyke83> well the submission is a gtk theme, so seeing the widgets in the thumb is ideal
[10:05] <psyke83> should I change it? here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Dichotomy
[10:05] <thorwil> psyke83: no, it's alright
[10:05] <psyke83> ok
[10:09] <thorwil> psyke83: seeing how the 300px thing just sucks for themes, i changed it to 800 px in both places
[10:10] <psyke83> thorwil: that seems reasonable... most screens run at 1024x768 at minimum, with exception to the smaller netbooks and mobile devices
[10:10] <psyke83> (and really, why would you use a mobile to view the art wiki? heh)
[10:14] <thorwil> kwwii: moin! did you guys manage to decide on final orange and aubergine values yesterday?
[10:57] <thorwil> some hilarious motu shit: http://ihavethepowerart.blogspot.com/2010/01/under-influence-masters-of-universe.html
[10:58]  * thorwil vanishes in a dramatic gesture to get lunch
[11:15] <zacbarton> psyke83: Dichotomy looks very nice
[11:15] <psyke83> zacbarton: thanks
[11:16] <zacbarton> psyke83: i like the use of the purple in the scrollbars. i think it works well
[11:17] <psyke83> zacbarton: yes, I was surprised by that (though undoubtedly the wallpaper helps give this impression)
[11:18] <zacbarton> psyke83: do you have plans to continue working on it? if so what's next?
[11:18] <zacbarton> psyke83: ofcourse dont answer if your rather supprise us all
[11:19] <psyke83> zacbarton: well, the next step is to refine everything, and clean up the code (that's not something a user cares about)
[11:20] <zacbarton> psyke83: true but its worth doing id say. clean on the inside = clean on the outside
[11:22] <psyke83> yep
[11:23] <psyke83> gotta run, see you all later
[15:11] <dashua> Morning
[15:17] <ripps> I was thinking of making a modified version of those animated xml wallpapers, but it pulls it's transistion information by pulling the sunrise/sunset time from weather.com,etc.
[15:17] <ripps> Is that possible?
[17:49] <zniavre> http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6148/capture1p.png  this is openoffice theme ?
[18:24] <AnAnt> Hello, something I don't understand about plymouth. What's the password_field for ?
[18:27] <AnAnt> ah, I think I get it now
[20:01] <artir> :)
[20:57] <merbit> hello artwork-ians :) I am puzzled by a paragraph of the upcoming new font license, perhaps someone can make it clear for me: http://pastebin.com/LsLWMygt -- thanks in advance
[20:58] <merbit> oh.. if there's a different channel where I should ask this question, please mention it
[21:00] <thorwil> merbit: there's practically no presence of the designers working at canonical here
[21:00] <thorwil> merbit: as it is weekend and late (london time)
[21:00] <merbit> argh.. true, thanks!
[21:01] <thorwil> merbit: fonts really need special licenses
[21:01] <thorwil> merbit: there's GPL with font exception, for example
[21:02] <thorwil> or the sil open font license
[21:02] <thorwil> merbit: canonical has the lawyers to craft a custom license, though, i guess
[21:02] <thorwil> merbit: so wait and see ;)
[21:03] <merbit> well, personally I wouldn't mind, whatever the license, only to be free enough to allow its redistribution :)