[00:02] <Koltor> I am running the x64 version of Ubuntu 9.10. For the past 2 days(haven't installed any new programs within the same time frame). I've started to encounter problems after I lock my computer, (ctrl+alt+l), then come back and unlock it. After unlocking, I am unable to open any programs.
[00:02] <Koltor> Attempts to open programs include: panel icon buttons, application menu buttons(including opening nautilus through the places menu), alt+F2, and using gnome-do. I also can't use any of the buttons in the user menu to the far right to log off or shut down the computer and am forced to hold the power button to restart my laptop. I am able to use programs that are already open with no problems.
[00:02] <Koltor> Also, If i lock the laptop again, the screen darkens as expected, except, when i move the mouse to bring up the login dialog all i see is short flickers of my mouse as it moves around a black screen.
[00:02] <Koltor> Any ideas on how i might troubleshoot this?
[00:07] <stlsaint> maybe give more swap space to help
[00:11] <Koltor> my swap partition is 4.3G right now, should I up it from that?
[00:26] <pedro3005> Koltor, no
[00:26] <pedro3005> 4.3gigs is more than enough
[00:27] <pedro3005> Koltor, laptop, pc, or what?
[00:27] <Koltor> laptop
[00:27] <Koltor> HP dv4t, half a year old
[00:30] <pedro3005> Koltor, hm, even though it's a bit old, try reading this post http://lindajane.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/installation-tips-for-hp-dv4t-laptop-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/
[00:35] <Koltor> hmm, good reference for the hardware, but can't find anything in there that seems related
[00:36] <Koltor> ah well, guess i can probably just deal with it for a month or so and then do a fresh install for lucid
[00:41] <Phrea> [Radiohead - The Tourist]
[00:41] <pedro3005> phillw, what?
[00:41] <pedro3005> Phrea, *
[00:41] <Phrea> yea, sorry, wrong chan :)
[00:42] <mathay> Phrea: fantastic song though.
[00:42] <Phrea> it was meant for offtopic
[00:42] <Phrea> mathay: it really is...
[00:42] <Phrea> amazingly good
[00:44] <mathay> Big fan of The Bends?
[00:44] <Phrea> I dont care about the lyrics, it's the music itself which makes it great, so much going on, on such a mellowed pace...
[00:44] <Phrea> never heard of The Bends
[00:44] <mathay> Er, Ok Computer.
[00:44] <Phrea> oh ah, yes :)
[00:44] <Phrea> conform the pop culture :)
[00:45] <Phrea> it's a great album
[00:45] <mathay> Oh, definitely. Lyrics aside, Thom Yorke's voice becomes an instrument of sorts. It really synthesizes with all of the actual instruments.
[00:45] <Phrea> indeed, well put :)
[00:46] <Phrea> it does take a toll on him and the band though, so it seems
[00:47] <Phrea> they manage to make new albums, but only just
[00:47] <Phrea> too many conflicts, too intence
[00:47] <Phrea> maybe that's why I like 'em
[00:48] <Phrea> I dont think I could stand even a week with them
[00:49] <mathay> Yeah, I knew it was pretty bad during the recording of OK Computer and subsequent recordings. In Rainbows may have been the first where they were all a little more cohesive.
[00:49] <mathay> Eh, I don't think I could either, to be honest..
[00:49] <Phrea> aside from In Rainbows, they made some brilliant music...
[00:50] <Phrea> and NEVER asked for some kind of leading role in the music business
[00:51] <Phrea> [mind you, I still live In Rainbows]
[00:51] <serverduck> :)Music!!!
[00:51] <Phrea> sorry, sometimes, we tend to get offtopic in here :D
[00:51] <serverduck> That's not a bad thing:P
[00:52] <Phrea> as long as everyone get's their share of attention and help, no
[00:52] <Phrea> :)
[00:52] <mathay> I definitely agree with you about it though. It's good but it doesn't hold as much weight as the others.
[00:52] <pedro3005> Phrea, agreed
[00:52] <serverduck> :)
[00:52] <pedro3005> Let's just hope the bureaucratic gods don't unleash their fury upon us
[00:53] <Phrea> gheh
[00:53] <serverduck> By the way what are you listening to usually?
[00:53]  * Phrea 's now listening to Queen
[00:53] <serverduck> :)
[00:54] <Phrea> [one of the greatest and most innovative bands ever]
[00:54] <serverduck> Led zeppelin-hearthbreaker
[00:54] <pedro3005> serverduck, usually sounds. I don't have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
[00:54] <Phrea> I like Led Zeppelin, but not a great fan like some
[00:55] <pedro3005> They're cool
[00:55] <serverduck> :)
[00:55] <pedro3005> Although I hate Bonham for being such a pain to play (I'm a drummer)
[00:55] <Phrea> some songs are spectacular, but mostly not
[00:55] <serverduck> I'm not a big fan of led but they are good.
[00:56] <Phrea> they are, they just arent brilliant
[00:56] <serverduck> They don't make music like they did:P
[00:56] <Phrea> ...on the other hand, I like a lot of other music too
[00:56] <Phrea> even plain music :P
[00:56] <pedro3005> speaking of music, mathay, ever got the chance to check out those artists I recommended?
[00:56] <serverduck> I listen to a lot of genres...
[00:56] <Phrea> I LOVE Madness [grew up on them]
[00:56] <Phrea> gheh
[00:56] <Phrea> well, etc
[00:57] <mathay> Yes! I got Blind Blake and was trying to decide on what I should check out next.
[00:57] <pedro3005> mathay, liked Blind Blake?
[00:58] <Phrea> see, pedro3005 know's I'm too old for new music ;)
[00:58] <pedro3005> Phrea, what do you mean?
[00:58] <Phrea> I meant it as a joke
[00:58] <pedro3005> Phrea, yeah, I didn't get it though
[00:58] <Phrea> I'm an old geezer
[00:59] <serverduck> Isaac Guillory, check this guy too...
[00:59] <Phrea> too old to learn to appreciate new bands
[00:59] <pedro3005> Phrea, hm... are you talking about Blind Blake?
[00:59] <serverduck> Hahahahaha
[00:59] <Phrea> pedro3005: for instance
[00:59] <Phrea> never heard of them
[00:59] <pedro3005> Phrea, oh you know him?
[00:59] <pedro3005> oph
[00:59] <pedro3005> oh
[01:00] <Phrea> and dont intend to learn about him
[01:00] <pedro3005> Phrea, it's not them, it's him.
[01:00] <Phrea> I learned :)
[01:00] <mathay> pedro3005: definitely. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It really takes you to a different place.
[01:00] <Phrea> you said so
[01:00] <pedro3005> Phrea, Blind Blake recorded in the 1920's, so it isn't exactly new music
[01:01] <Phrea> gheh, ok :D
[01:01] <pedro3005> mathay, doesn't it? I think it sounds very joyful. His songs are happy, exciting. And the playing is amazing. Very melodic and rhythmic
[01:02] <Phrea> did you learn from him via a movie or so?
[01:02] <pedro3005> Phrea, nah. < blues fan. learnt about him just researching and reading
[01:02] <Phrea> s/from/of
[01:02] <Phrea> ah
[01:02] <Phrea> ok :)
[01:02] <pedro3005> mathay, well, let me see, where should you go next...
[01:03] <pedro3005> mathay, I'd say give a look on Lonnie Johnson. He's one of the first city bluesmen, his music is a bit inspired by Jazz and I like to say he's a precursor to guitar solos.
[01:04] <Phrea> you seem to know your stuff :)
[01:04] <pedro3005> His cd made after his rediscovery around the 1970's, called Me And My Crazy Self, is just beautiful
[01:04] <pedro3005> Very slow, amazing guitar solos. Emotions pour throughout his voice
[01:04] <mathay> All right, I'll be sure to check him out. I feel like anything with a jazz vibe I'll be interested in. I've really gotten into jazz (bebop and hard-bebop) over the past few months. Would love to listen to something that was a precursor.
[01:05] <pedro3005> mathay, so I recommend both his early 1920s recordings and his latter ones, already with an electric guitar
[01:05] <pedro3005> I think his first record was Mr. Johnson's Blues. He got to record since he went into a Jazz contest and won the 1st place
[01:06] <serverduck> mathay, Do you like jazz fusion?
[01:06] <pedro3005> It was made on 1925
[01:06] <Phrea> [Queen - We Will Rock You]
[01:06] <Phrea> they werent kidding either ! :D
[01:06] <serverduck> mathay, I would recommend listening to Scott Henderson.
[01:07] <pedro3005> And on the whole song, he says two or three lines, combined with his amazing melodic solos. All he says, introducing the song, is "I want all you people to listen to my song; remember me after the days I'm gone"
[01:08] <pedro3005> Very nice. Lonnie is a ++. Everyone I show him to enjoys it throughly. He was actually a very happy person
[01:11] <mathay> pedro3005: I will be sure to--that sounds extremely good. Anything that deviates really interests me.
[01:12] <pedro3005> mathay, my mistake. it was actually a blues contest that got him the record.
[01:12] <mathay> serverduck: I haven't gotten into jazz fusion but if you have any recommendations.. this is my problem with life though. Too much interests me and I can't focus. Not all that conducive.
[01:13] <serverduck> Ahh I've came across another problem with conky,created my config it works if i sudo conky -c path but can't seem to make it start each time my computer starts.Why?
[01:13] <pedro3005> mathay, I have the cd Me And My Crazy Self here and i'll pass you it, if you want
[01:14] <pedro3005> serverduck, well, what did you do to make it start each time the computer starts?
[01:14] <serverduck> added it at startup aplications....with path to the onfig
[01:15] <pedro3005> serverduck, you sure the command is right?
[01:15] <serverduck> mathay, Hehehehe, I know...does anyone feels like their having to much time? don't think so...well check out:Scott Henderson, Allan Holdsworth, Greg Howe, Shawn Lane
[01:16] <serverduck> sudo conky -c path..starts my conky
[01:16] <serverduck> in the terminal...
[01:17] <mathay> I have to log this entire conversation or else I'll forgot all of this info.
[01:17] <mathay> It was nice talking with you pedro3005 and serverduck. Have to head into Cleveland.
[01:17] <mathay> Take it easy.
[01:17] <pedro3005> mathay, k, bye
[01:18] <pedro3005> serverduck, hm, try marking the Run on the terminal box
[01:18] <pedro3005> on startup applications
[01:18] <serverduck> did, it works....
[01:19] <serverduck> From the terminal works fine.
[01:19] <pedro3005> good
[01:19] <pedro3005> so everything works now?
[01:19] <serverduck> works only from terminal
[01:20] <serverduck> if i restart again it doesn't start...
[01:20] <serverduck> ever if it's in sturtup applications
[01:20] <serverduck> could be that i've not set the correct path
[01:21] <serverduck> Nope...
[01:24] <pedro3005> serverduck, but on the startup thing, is Run On The Terminal checked?
[01:26] <serverduck> Ohhh were can i set that?
[01:26] <serverduck> I see only name, command and comment.
[01:26] <pedro3005> oh well my mistake
[01:27] <pedro3005> no such option
[01:27] <pedro3005> serverduck, try adding it to the rc.local
[01:28] <serverduck> Aaa I don't know how to do that..
[01:28] <serverduck> You are talking about conky's config?
[01:29] <pedro3005> serverduck, no, let me explain
[01:30] <mohi1> serverduck, gksu gedit /etc/rc.local will lead you to go and edit it
[01:30] <pedro3005> mohi1, i was going to say that!
[01:30] <mohi1> =]
[01:31] <mohi1> serverduck, open terminal and type gksu gedit /etc/rc.local
[01:31] <serverduck> ok
[01:32] <serverduck> Good...a gedit window appears
[01:32] <pedro3005> serverduck, in there, put the command you run for conky
[01:32] <pedro3005> save
[01:32] <pedro3005> exit
[01:32] <pedro3005> on a terminal, type "sudo chmod +x /etc/rc.local"
[01:32] <pedro3005> restart & check
[01:32] <mohi1> pedro3005, will that be write protected??
[01:32] <pedro3005> mohi1, what?
[01:33] <mohi1> rc.local..
[01:33] <pedro3005> mohi1, ah, i don't understand you. it'll work
[01:34] <serverduck> :)do i need also to change the permisions of that file too?
[01:34] <mohi1> serverduck, type sudo chmod +w /etc/rc.local
[01:34] <mohi1> firstly
[01:34] <serverduck> ok
[01:34] <mohi1> pedro3005, i was talking about that ^
[01:34] <pedro3005> mohi1, I have edited the rc.local file sometimes and never needed that
[01:35] <pedro3005> all you have to do is set the +x
[01:35] <pedro3005> serverduck, did it save ok?
[01:35] <pedro3005> type "cat /etc/rc.local" and see if it's there
[01:35] <serverduck> good, yes
[01:35] <mohi1> hmmm but i enable edit options by doing +w
[01:36] <pedro3005> mohi1, well, your intelligence is questionable
[01:36] <serverduck> It'a there, thanks.
[01:36] <pedro3005> serverduck, great, now just restard and see if it runs good
[01:36] <pedro3005> restart*
[01:36] <mohi1> pedro3005, ;)
[01:37] <serverduck> I will restart later, I need to finish things here...
[01:37] <serverduck> Thanks!
[01:37] <pedro3005> np
[01:38] <Kevinswenson> anyone here?
[01:38] <mohi1> hey Kevinswenson
[01:38] <Kevinswenson> hey hows it going?
[01:39] <pedro3005> hi Kevinswenson
[01:39] <mohi1> Kevinswenson, all is well =]
[01:40] <mohi1> so Kevinswenson you need us now?
[01:40] <Kevinswenson> so u guys know much about Ubuntu?
[01:40] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, a bit. any questions?
[01:41] <mohi1> same here
[01:42] <Kevinswenson> well im taking a class(linux) and i have a bunch of labs to do and i dont know how to do them that well
[01:43] <pedro3005> shoot
[01:44] <Kevinswenson> one of the questions is provide evidence of successfully pining IPv4
[01:44] <Kevinswenson> I dont know anything about Linux really
[01:45] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, "ping ip" ?
[01:46] <Kevinswenson> shoot forget that one lol
[01:46] <Kevinswenson> next one
[01:46] <Kevinswenson> i can do that one i think
[01:47] <pedro3005> if the ping is successful it'll return something among the lines of
[01:47] <pedro3005> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.035 ms
[01:47] <Kevinswenson> Using the command line, log a demonstration of creating a group called presidents
[01:47] <Kevinswenson> how do u create a group from the command line?
[01:48] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, see "man groupadd"
[01:48] <pedro3005> if you're on a linux machine, of course
[01:48] <Kevinswenson> yeah im on Ubuntu operating system
[01:49] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, so, check the manual page of groupadd, that's the command
[01:49] <Kevinswenson> wheres the manual page at?
[01:50] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, you can reach it by typing on a terminal "man entry". in this case the entry is groupadd
[01:50] <pedro3005> generally any command will have it's man page
[01:50] <pedro3005> so whenever you see a command and doesn't know what it does / how to use it, check the man page on it
[01:52] <Kevinswenson> im dumb when it comes to linux..dont know anything
[01:53] <Kevinswenson> so once in the terminal what do i write to create a group? Groupadd?
[01:54] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, groupadd is the command you're going to use. to know exactly how to use it, see the manual entry (man groupadd).
[01:56] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, I don't really know how you use 'groupadd' and hey, it's your homework after all :P can't expect me to do it all for you
[01:56] <pedro3005> I'm giving you pointers
[01:57] <paultag> Me too
[01:57] <paultag> 0xFA8372FA2
[01:57] <paultag> 0x0002FA92
[01:57] <pedro3005> ><
[01:57] <Kevinswenson> haha i know. Im just trying to get help cuz ive been stuck doing thing homework..hate it ha
[01:57] <paultag> 0xFFAC2159687
[01:58] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, and notice it asks you to log it, not sure how you'd do that
[01:59] <Kevinswenson> do u know where the group accounts are? i found the command its groupadd - preidents
[02:00] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, you wanna see all the existing groups?
[02:00] <pedro3005> cat /etc/group |cut -d: -f1
[02:01] <pedro3005> Kevinswenson, this is highly recommended for ubuntu beginners: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[02:04] <Kevinswenson> alright
[02:10] <Kevinswenson> do u know what a graphical environment is?
[02:11] <Kevinswenson> the question is provide evidence of successfully login to a Graphical environment using your non-administration account(Created already)
[02:15] <phillw> Kevinswenson: if you are not used to CLI (the terminal) for adding / editing users, then I'd strongly suggest " System --> Administration --> Users and Groups"  That will give you options to set up a 'user' or an 'admin' person
[02:17] <phillw> Kevinswenson: within there you can also alter a login name to admin, or demote it from (if you have authority to do so)
[02:44] <pedro3005> phillw, but he had to do it via commands
[02:45] <phillw> .. ##devil
[02:48] <Jesse1984> Hi, i have a HP 8530p notebook (Core2 9600, 4GB DDR2, ATI HD 3650), just installed ubuntu karmic, went to hardware drivers, it said ATI proprietry not installed, so i installed and re-booted, now just black screen, have been trying to follow peoples note from here http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp+elitebook+8530p but when i try to goto recovery mode, once the screen to choose root shell comes up i cant use the keyboard to arrow d
[02:48] <Jesse1984> own, its like there is no keyboard support (oh BTW, reason for Proprietary ATI is the laptop was getting VERY hot and i read a post that said the proprietary fixed it for them)... any suggestion ? (also im a total Liux n00b)
[02:49] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, on this black screen you reach after booting, try pressing CTRL + ALT + F1
[02:50] <Jesse1984> ok will do, anything else ? what will that do ?
[02:52] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, that will hopefully open a terminal
[02:52] <pedro3005> and you can see if you get your keyboard going there
[02:52] <pedro3005> to perform the instructions
[02:53] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, so, write this down
[02:53] <Jesse1984> pedro3005, great ill try it now, got to reboot since im dual booting with windows 7, thanks
[02:53] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, wait
[02:53] <Jesse1984> ok...
[02:53] <pedro3005> If you reach the terminal
[02:53] <Jesse1984> yes...
[02:53] <pedro3005> log in, and run the command:
[02:54] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:54] <pedro3005> after getting it installed, run irssi (simply run "irssi")
[02:54] <pedro3005> and come back here (irssi is an irc client for the terminal)
[02:55] <Jesse1984> pedro, ok great will do thanks
[03:03] <Jesse1984> pedro3005, no good -cant get terminal up with CTRL + ALT + F1, keyboard still wont work in recovery mode, ill have to come back to the issue later, Alice in Wonderland Calls
[03:04] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, k, good luck
[03:36] <Blackcamaro8> I installed the NVidia proprietary drivers in Jaunty, and it refuses to enable effects. It's  GeForce 5200FX that has worked fine on earlier versions. The Ubuntu install is a fresh one.
[03:37] <stlsaint> Blackcamaro8: did you make the driver active?
[03:38] <Blackcamaro8> I don't know exactly what you mean by that, but I am using the nvidia-settings command with root priveleges to change my graphical options.
[03:38] <Blackcamaro8> So I do believe they're active.
[03:38] <stlsaint> Blackcamaro8: go to system>admin>Hardware Drivers
[03:39] <Blackcamaro8> Oh, then in that case, yes. They are active. Version 173.
[03:39] <Blackcamaro8> I just activated them less than 10 minutes ago.
[03:39] <stlsaint> Blackcamaro8: have you restarted system?
[03:39] <Blackcamaro8> Yes. Twice.
[03:39] <Blackcamaro8> I've run apt-get update as well.
[03:39] <stlsaint> and under system>preferences>Apperance you cant enable effects?
[03:40] <Blackcamaro8> Precisely. I know the card can do it, for they were working fine in my last install. Same release, Jaunty Jackalope, 9.04.
[03:40] <Blackcamaro8> I get the error "Effects could not be enabled."
[03:41] <stlsaint> you trying to do normal effects?
[03:41] <Blackcamaro8> I've tried both Normal and Extra.
[03:41] <stlsaint> is 173 the recommended driver?
[03:41] <Blackcamaro8> Perhaps I'll try an older driver version.
[03:41] <Blackcamaro8> Yes.
[03:42] <Blackcamaro8> I'm going to try version 96, and see if there is any improvement.
[03:42] <Blackcamaro8> If not, I'll re-install 173 again.
[03:43] <Blackcamaro8> Also, when trying to enable the effects, Ubuntu brings up a dialogue box claiming it's looking for available drivers.
[03:44] <Blackcamaro8> Restarting the system.
[03:44] <Blackcamaro8> After installation of older drivers.
[03:45] <Blackcamaro8> Splash screen... Login window... Desktop is appearing after login.
[03:45] <Blackcamaro8> Attempting effects.
[04:08] <phillw> Blackcamaro8: have you any chance of trying 10.04 ?  There is a lot of work going on for vis syching ?
[04:49] <CatchItBaby> How to find a string without it's upper and lower case in bash script
[04:52] <Adrian> hi
[04:52] <Adrian> i installed UNR 9.10 on my vaio TR5
[04:53] <Adrian> but the menu on the desktop (launcher?) doesnt work - it doesnt respond to mouse clicks and has very sluggish response to mouse over the buttons
[04:53] <Adrian> keyboard works though
[04:53] <Adrian> any ideas on how to fix the menus so they work with mouse input?
[05:04] <NewToUbuntu> Does anyone have any knowledge of displays in ubuntu? My laptop display has cracked and I have hooked up an external monitor and pressed FN+F7 to change to the LCD, but nothing happens.
[07:53] <CatchItBaby> Any One Online ?
[07:55] <tenach> I'm sure there are millions of people online ;D
[08:03] <Akos> hi CatchItBaby, tenach (:
[08:04] <tenach> Hello CatchItBaby , Akos
[08:05] <josh_> i'm a noob on ubuntu, trying to install tweetdeck and can't seem to get it to work. any help?
[08:06] <josh_> I'm an IT director, thinking about making the switch country wide to Linux over Windows, any  help would be greatly appreciated
[08:06] <tenach> Perhaps this would help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=956824
[08:07] <Akos> hi josh_
[08:07] <josh_> thank you, i will check that out, and thank you?
[08:07] <josh_> hi Akos
[08:10] <josh_> i hope to lean on you guys for the next little bit :) i'm running ubuntu 64 (latest patches) on a ThinkPad e100x. I appreciate any help in advance, pointers, etc...
[08:57] <romaer> hi i have a beagle board which i installed ubuntu on however i can't get ssh working can someone help me please?
[08:58] <romaer> basicly i just need some help on setting up a ssh server
[08:58] <romaer> on ubuntu
[13:52] <wrvuedgk7360> what do i do if i get error nvidia SystemError: installArchives() failed
[14:13]  * wrvuedgk7360 ?
[14:13]  * wrvuedgk7360 is fun
[14:19] <ikt> wrvuedgk7360: where is that error appearing?
[14:21] <wrvuedgk7360> when i go to hardware drivers and try to install 185 nvidia drivers
[14:45] <AJH101> hello does anyone have experience of back ups via Quick Start?
[14:47] <ikt> wrvuedgk7360: that in lucid or karmic?
[14:49] <AJH101> hello does anyone have experience of back ups via Quick Start please - in Karmic actually but i am not sure it affects the answer. When i start a back up i am asked if i want any of 3 different back ups - i wondered what is the difference btwn them?
[14:49] <pedro3005> AJH101, what are their names?
[14:49] <ikt> wrvuedgk7360: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406152
[14:50] <AJH101> i want to run a back up before restoring emails and account info etc after an upgrade to Lucid
[14:51] <AJH101> from mempry home system and er...
[14:51] <AJH101> memory
[14:51] <ikt> AJH101: what are the different types of back up options?
[14:53] <AJH101> / , /home and config files - what do i need?
[14:53] <AJH101> what is the difference please?
[14:53] <pedro3005> AJH101, / will back up everything, your entire system
[14:54] <AJH101> ok that is for emergencies eh! ;-)
[14:54] <pedro3005> AJH101, /home will back up all your files, like your music, videos etcetera, everything in the /home folder where user files are stored
[14:54] <wrvuedgk7360> ubuntu 9.10
[14:54] <pedro3005> AJH101, config files will just back up all the configurations for the programs you have, so you don't lose them.
[14:56] <AJH101> will //home capture all emails and account info etc, or do i need config too to restore after a clean 'upgrade' to Lucid next month?
[14:57] <pedro3005> AJH101, your emails and account info are very likely inside /home
[14:59] <AJH101> pedro3005: ok i will check thanks - i am backing up to Ubuntu One and then plan to restore /home from there - should that work after a clean install of Lucid do you think?
[14:59] <pedro3005> AJH101, yes
[15:00] <AJH101> pedro3005: Thanks
[15:01] <pedro3005> AJH101, no problem :D
[16:49] <paultag> pleia2, poke
[17:19] <CatchItBaby> any one know bash script ?
[17:25] <leoquant> CatchItBaby no, only with too many errors in it. sorry
[17:27] <leoquant> maybe someone else
[18:06] <CatchItBaby> [ .-_][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]
[20:42] <geirha> Anyone know of an easy DVD-ripping software? By easy I mean a program that doesn't have a window with tons of options.
[20:46] <pedro3005> geirha, hm, I used one once
[20:46] <pedro3005> can't remember the name
[20:47] <geirha> I'm trying to find one that doesn't require the user to know what bitrates and codecs and such are.
[20:47] <pedro3005> geirha, hm, well, mine did
[20:47] <pedro3005> but it's easy
[20:47] <pedro3005> leave stuff as default
[20:48] <geirha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[20:48] <geirha> Any of those?
[20:50] <pedro3005> geirha, yeah, AcidRip i think
[20:53] <geirha> Hm, yeah, I tried that one and DVD::Rip. DVD::rip was way too complex. AcidRip was much easier, but will still put off less computer-literate people imo.
[20:53] <pedro3005> geirha, AcidRip is easy. what is your question?
[20:54] <geirha> I'm trying to find one I can recommend to less computerliterate people
[20:55] <geirha> Would be nice if DVD-ripping was as easy as CD-ripping; just insert an audio cd and click a button.
[20:55] <geirha> I'm gonna give thoggen a go
[20:56] <geirha> For me, AcidRip is easy of course. I know what all the cryptic words mean ;)
[20:58] <pedro3005> geirha, just provide a step-by-step
[20:58] <geirha> thoggen is the best candidate so far
[20:59] <geirha> A drop-down of dvd-drives, a checklist of titles and a button. Nice.
[21:13] <pleia2> paultag: repoke
[21:58] <Varidian> Is anybody familiar with GRUB here? Trying to restore my MBR, I can't seem to figure it out
[21:59] <shredder12> hi Varidian .. which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:59] <Varidian> 9.10
[22:00] <Varidian> Is it possible to restore GRUB boot loader in Backtrack 4?
[22:01] <shredder12> you mean from the backtrack live CD?
[22:02] <Varidian> yeah, or I have it on a VM right now
[22:02] <Varidian> Would that work?
[22:03] <paultag> pleia2, heyya
[22:03] <shredder12> hey paultag is it possible restore grub2 from backtrack4 live CD?
[22:04] <paultag> shredder12, GRUB2 is not being used yet :)
[22:04] <Varidian> Or a VM Backtrack?
[22:04] <paultag> shredder12, It's grub 1.98 beta 2
[22:04] <paultag> shredder12, and I think you should be able to. Just make sure you are using it :)
[22:04] <paultag> shredder12, I don't use backtrack
[22:05] <shredder12> paultag, so I need to have the same version of grub running in backtrack too to restore MBR...
[22:05] <paultag> shredder12, sorry, grub 1.97 beta 2
[22:05] <paultag> shredder12, all you have to do is grub-install
[22:05] <paultag> shredder12, just make sure you have the version of grub-install that matches the grub you want
[22:05] <shredder12> well the ubuntu community documentation refers to it as grub2 so I started using it too..
[22:05] <Varidian> There is a restore grub gui app that I tried in backtrack
[22:06] <Varidian> I tried using that and it worked to an extent
[22:06] <shredder12> Varidian, to an extent?
[22:06] <Varidian> It restored grub, but when it loaded grub at boot it only showed my windows, and my recovery, no ubuntu?
[22:07] <paultag> shredder12, it's pre-grub2, it's the same file structure etc, but it's still grub 1.9, the grub "1" was grub 0.9
[22:07] <shredder12> paultag, oh.. alright..
[22:08] <Varidian> And the restore feature in backtrack said it would restore my sda5 where my ubuntu is located
[22:09] <shredder12> Varidian, I haven't really used backtrack.. but since its linux.. I think we should make sure what version of "grub-install" is installed in it, or even installed or not?
[22:09] <Varidian> That's cool, I'll try that command in my VM right now
[22:11] <shredder12> Varidian, you might to take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 and also check out the whole documentation.. you will find a lot of useful stuff about grub 1.97 here..
[22:12] <Varidian> install_device not specified.
[22:12] <Varidian> Ok, Thank you
[22:12] <shredder12> Varidian, good.. it means grub-install is there..
[22:12] <Varidian> Yes, so it would work right
[22:15] <shredder12> yeah.. the documentation should solve the issue.
[22:17] <Varidian> Ok, the only thing I'm not sure is if Backtrack has Grub files to copy and paste, since I'm not using ubuntu Live CD, not sure if its going to work
[22:19] <shredder12> Varidian, No, i don't think its that complicated.. I think all you are supposed to do is first of all mount your ubuntu partition in /mnt and then run the grub-install pointing to the ubuntu partition as your root directory..
[22:22] <lstdio_> is anyone else using the xorg-edgers ppa for Lucid?