[00:12] <persia> Linux000: Welcome!
[00:13] <persia> Everyone: Linux000 wants to help get involved in improving Ubuntu, but doesn't have a lot of familiarity with our tools and processes.  If anyone has time to help get started, that'd be great.
[00:14] <persia> Linux000 seeks to become a developer, but I suggested that working with bugs would be a good way to understand how things are broken into packages, how stuff works together, etc.
[00:15] <cjohnston> Should bug 532789 be split into two bugs, one for pidgin and one for liferea?
[00:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532789 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "ambiance: pidgin icon in status area has light background (liferea too) (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532789
[00:15] <persia> cjohnston: Yes.
[00:15] <cjohnston> ty persia
[00:17] <nigelb> Linux000: welcome.  I'm just on the way out, but to get you started, I'll just give you a few links :)
[00:17] <Linux000> nigelb that would help a lot
[00:17] <nigelb> okay, so here the main bug squad wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[00:18] <nigelb> you can fulfill the requirements given there about reading the triage guide and signing the Coc, etc
[00:18] <Linux000> Thanks
[00:19] <nigelb> Once that is done, you can just apply for membership to the LP team, it helps us know that you are part of a group of people who helps with triaging bugs
[00:19] <nigelb> This is the Launchpad team https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[00:20] <Linux000> that helps a lot
[00:20] <nigelb> Once you do that you can drop a mail to the mailing list that you have read the triage guide and signed CoC and to accept your membership
[00:20] <nigelb> And this is the last link, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[00:21] <Linux000> great
[00:21] <nigelb> on the last link at the bottom you can see a link to the new bugs, once you are ready you can start there
[00:21] <nigelb> for any help, ask here, plenty of people will help you out
[00:21] <nigelb> thanks for your time in helping Ubuntu Linux000 :)
[00:21] <nigelb> persia: all set :)
[00:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a way to identify all processes listening to input events?
[01:02] <Linux000> IntuitiveNipple: If you know the device in /dev, you could run "fuser /dev/(device)" and it should list pid numbers using that device, the system monitor can list the PID numbers and names of processes
[01:03] <IntuitiveNipple> oooo that sounds promising, thanks!
[01:03] <Linux000> Happy to help
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> *sigh* works but doesn't show the answer I was hoping for
[01:07] <Linux000> What were you looking for?
[01:07] <IntuitiveNipple> I need to figure out what processes are listening for keyboard events... as hald-addon-input is on the event, I wonder if the processes use dbus messaging?
[01:08] <IntuitiveNipple> It's the weirdest bug I've ever seen: bug #532047
[01:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532047 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed at first login attempt (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532047
[01:10] <Linux000> Don't know how to listen to the keyboard, sorry
[01:12] <IntuitiveNipple> I'll play about with dbus-monitor, that may throw something up
[01:56] <cjohnston> what is the bar with file edit .... called? menu bar?
[01:56] <Pici> panel
[01:57] <cjohnston> so there is the panel for the desktop and a panel for the app? bug 532798 for reference
[01:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532798 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "[ambience] bookmarks in firefox navigation toolbar are invisible (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532798
[01:57] <Pici> Er, I assume you mean't the gnome panels.. Its just the 'menu bar' in application Windows
[01:57] <cjohnston> ok
[01:57] <cjohnston> thanks
[02:00] <Iyunkateus> ?q coi rodo .i do cabna pei
[02:00] <Iyunkateus> meh, wrong channel, sorry
[02:02] <forrest> hello, i'm also experiencing bug #496596 and i'm wondering if there's a way for me to attach my system info, the type that's automatically generated by the bug reporting tool
[02:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 496596 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "The format of the "styles" does not stay consistent. (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496596
[02:02] <forrest> for instance, i'm on a 32-bit system, the report is from a 64-bit system
[02:03] <Linux000> forrest: If you can get the files, you could comment on the bug
[02:05] <forrest> yeah, like Dependencies.txt ... how do i get those files without filing a seperate (duplicate) bug?
[02:05] <mrand> forrest: apport-collect <bug number>    Even if you don't collect up files, it would be helpful for you to comment in the bug about your system and that you can reproduce it.
[02:06] <forrest> right, i'm planning to do that, i was hoping to be able to give more info about my system
[02:07] <mrand> forrest: even more helpful if you could find someone (yourself, or perhaps on #ubuntu+1) to confirm the problem on 10.04/Lucid.
[02:07] <mrand> I've gotta run.  Have fun!
[02:07] <forrest> thanks mrand
[02:13] <Linux000> What is the average wait for approval to the BugSquad Team? Any ideas?
[03:10] <wolfger> Anzenketh: don't need it tested so much as we need to figure out the actually package.
[03:13] <kermiac> wolfger: re bug 391054 I unsuccessfully tried to play http://gallery.me.com/jhschettler#100436 on opera, SRWare Iron, opera & google chrome. are we sure it's not a site related issue? Do you have the same issue with other sites?
[03:13] <kermiac> and firefox
[03:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 391054 in libquicktime (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "unable to view inline quicktime video on Firefox (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391054
[03:20] <wolfger> kermiac: Works fine on FF under WinXP and as stated in the ticket, plays fine if downloaded as well.
[03:21] <wolfger> so I don't think it's a site problem, though I guess it could be
[03:21] <wolfger> haven't looked at the source, at least not recently.
[03:21] <wolfger> off to bed now, will look at that possibility in the morning if nobody beats me to it ;-)
[03:26] <kermiac> ok wolfger :)
[04:16] <Linux000> How would one report a bug when there is no way to use aporrt/no way to get info on the bug itself?
[04:21] <kermiac> hey Linux000 :) I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean.... can you please explain a little more
[04:30] <Linux000> kermiac: I installed 10.04 alpha on a Virtual Machine,(virtual box), installed VBox Guest Additions(which may be the problem) rebooted, and now the mouse is gone, so I cant do anything in gnome, and I can't acsess a terminal screen with ctrl-alt-f1 either
[04:30] <kermiac> hmm... is it a usb mouse?
[04:31] <kermiac> there's a quick with wirtualbox & usb, but there's an easy workaround
[04:31] <kermiac> s/quick/quirk
[04:31] <Linux000> Trackpad, I don't know how it shows up in Virtual Box, the Host has no problem
[04:32] <kermiac> I don't know - haven't had issues with vb & tackpad. def not the usb issue I was thinking of though
[04:33] <Linux000> Okay, I'll try to work with it.
[04:33] <kermiac> maybe just use a usb mouse as a workaround whilst you're looking into it?
[04:35] <Linux000> Well, the hosts(my laptop) has no trobule, with it, however the OS inside Virtual Box(10.04)  is acting up, the mouse is there when I  am at the login screen, I login then the mouse disappears, I think I'm going to put this up on the main IRC, see if any knows anything about it
[05:09] <kermiac> I'm looking at gnome bug 609902  - I have been asked to check if the issue still occurs in a more recent version (past 95ae539e8). The current lucid package is nautilus  (1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2). Is there any way to check with a later version?
[05:09] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[05:12] <kermiac> bug 520685
[05:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520685 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode") (affects: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520685
[05:13] <Linux000> bug 609902
[05:13] <ubot4> Linux000: Error: Bug #609902 not found.
[05:13] <Linux000> bug 520685
[05:13] <kermiac> Linux000: gnome bug 609902
[05:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520685 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode") (affects: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520685
[05:13] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[05:14] <Linux000> I just realized they're dupes
[05:15] <kermiac> it's still happening in up-to-date lucid. gnome dev confused me when referecing "past 95ae539e8"
[05:15] <kermiac> 520685 was reported on LP, 609902 is upstream bug
[05:16] <Linux000> Okay, got it.
[05:16] <kermiac> :)
[05:16] <kermiac> any ideas what the gnome dev was referring to/
[05:17] <Linux000> where?
[05:17] <kermiac> last comment on gnome bug 609902
[05:17] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[05:17] <kermiac> it's still happening in up-to-date lucid. gnome dev confused me when referecing "past 95ae539e8"
[05:18] <ddecator> i have no idea what that means either...
[05:19] <mrand> kermiac: that probably refers to a revision number in their source tree (which I believe uses git)
[05:19] <Linux000> I don't know, but he can't open the other nautilus pane, so it might be his configuration
[05:20] <kermiac> ok ty mrand, I'll fire up a vm & try to update to latest git :)
[05:20] <Damascene> usermod -Gftpuser ftpuser
[05:20] <Damascene> sorry, wrong channel
[05:21] <mrand> hrm.  or maybe that is too short for a commit id...  man, those things are long!  Example: http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus-python/commit/?id=03c54f1c6971115d573ed7fb6727ed83107a41d0
[05:21] <Damascene> I just wanted to know what does it do. but I posted in the wrong channel
[05:21] <mrand> bedtime!
[05:22] <kermiac> Linux000: it's not a config issue. I verified it only happens when opening "Computer" from the Places menu OR run "nautilus computer:///" from a terminal window after first login
[05:22] <Linux000> Yeah, I missread the comment, and just found the bug on my VM
[05:22] <kermiac> :)
[05:25] <Linux000> The version on my VM is the lastest from http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/ (12 days ago) and it still has the bug...
[05:30] <kermiac> ok, ty Linux000 :)
[05:35] <kermiac> I *think* I found what was being referrenced. http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=95ae539e8d042b04ee9c6817bcc41f551ab207fc
[05:35] <kermiac> from 3 days ago
[05:35] <kermiac> just updating my VM with latest lucid updates then I'll try that
[05:36] <ddecator> i just upgraded to lucid if you need something tested =)
[05:36] <kermiac> hey ddecator :)
[05:36] <ddecator> hey kermiac
[05:36] <kermiac> it might foobar your system... probably be safer in vm
[05:37] <kermiac> it's one of the latest gnome nautilus git commits
[05:37] <ddecator> what's the behavior?
[05:37] <kermiac> bug 520685 & upstream gnome bug 609902
[05:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 520685 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode") (affects: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520685
[05:37] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[05:38] <kermiac> only happens first time "computer" is opened after session started & only if splitview is enabled
[05:38] <zetheroo> why is it that some bug fixes take forever to be implemented into the Ubuntu kernel?
[05:38] <zetheroo> it's been almost a year since this bug was fixed in launchpad and still it has not been implemented in the official kernel
[05:39] <ddecator> worked for me...but i can't remember if i've opened it yet. i'll logout in a sec and try again
[05:39] <zetheroo> this is the bug I am talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/278648
[05:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 278648 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[regression]snd-hda-intel sound input does not work at all with Conexant CX20549 (Venice) chips (affects: 8) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[05:40] <kermiac> it's still there in latest lucid updates. looking through the changelogs, it seems the git commit being referenced has made it into lucid already
[05:40] <Linux000> the latest commit from gnome was 12 days ago, right?
[05:40] <zetheroo> which is the same as this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/278648
[05:41] <ddecator> kermiac, after logging out and logging back in, computer opens fine for me with the extra pane
[05:41] <Linux000> ?
[05:41] <kermiac> Linux000: in the "main" branch the latest commit was 16hrs ago  -  http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/log/
[05:42] <Linux000> Didn't see that one
[05:42] <kermiac> ddecator: did you do *exactly* as stated in the test case? It's a *very* specific bug
[05:42] <kermiac> I still experience it
[05:43] <ddecator> i have extra pane set, logged out, logged in, then went to "computer" in places and it opened fine
[05:44] <ddecator> wait...
[05:44]  * kermiac waits :)
[05:44] <Linux000> Still here to
[05:44] <ddecator> i did have the elementary nautilus installed before, but i think i'm using the standard nautilus now...
[05:45] <kermiac> ddecator: what is the output of "sudo apt-cache policy nautilus"?
[05:45] <kermiac> should be nautilus  (1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2) in lucid
[05:45] <ddecator>   Installed: 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2
[05:45] <ddecator>   Candidate: 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2
[05:45] <ddecator>   Version table:
[05:45] <ddecator>  *** 1:2.29.91-0ubuntu2 0
[05:45] <ddecator>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Packages
[05:45] <ddecator>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:46] <ddecator> want me to try a full restart?
[05:46] <kermiac> hmm... interesting. I don't know why you aren't experiencing it then
[05:46] <kermiac> shouldn't need to restart... just restart session & it appears
[05:47] <ddecator> any logs that you know of that could help?
[05:48] <kermiac> not off the top of my head
[05:49] <ddecator> hm, well i followed the directions specifically...
[05:50]  * kermiac shrugs
[05:51] <ddecator> hold on, i need to do a restart anyway to check a metacity problem
[05:54] <ddecator> kermiac, still worked fine =p
[05:54] <kermiac> i dunno... you're the first person I've talked to who isn't effected by the bug
[05:55] <ddecator> i just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and everything is up-to-date
[05:55] <kermiac> still happening in my vm as well... very strange
[05:56] <ddecator> has it been confirmed by people not using a vm?
[05:56] <kermiac> yeah, & also by me using a fully-up-to-date install as well as in a vm
[05:57] <ddecator> well now that is very odd...
[05:58] <Linux000> it might be the elementary nautilus that affected it
[05:58] <ddecator> that's what i'm wondering
[05:59] <Linux000> hmm, what did you do to install it, just sudo apt-get install elementray-nautilus? or somthing differnet?
[05:59] <Linux000> different
[05:59] <ddecator> let me find the site i used...
[06:02] <ddecator> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/nautilus-simple-install-ppa-streamlined.html
[06:03] <ddecator> i don't have the ppa anymore though
[06:06] <Linux000> It's on the site
[06:06] <Linux000> Hmm, the install doesn't work for me
[06:06] <ddecator> Linux000, right, i just mean i'm not using that ppa anymore, i checked my software sources
[06:07] <Linux000> Okay
[06:07] <Linux000> well, I was going to try and install that, then remove it and see if the bug went away, but seeing as it won't install, that won't work
[06:10] <Linux000> Oh well, I am off
[06:10] <kermiac> ddecator: that ppa seems to only have themes atm - no replacement nautilus
[06:11] <ddecator> kermiac, interesting...
[06:11] <ddecator> well, i have no idea...if you ever want me to test anything else or give a log, just let me know =)
[06:12] <kermiac> ok mate ty :)
[06:12]  * kermiac keeps fighting with newer git version of nautilus
[06:13]  * ddecator keeps fighting with plymouth and metacity
[06:13] <kermiac> have fun with that :)
[06:14] <kermiac> hey ddecator you running an ati video card in your lucid box?
[06:14] <ddecator> yah, nothing i can do about plymouth, it hates nvidia
[06:14] <kermiac> oh, nvm
[06:14] <ddecator> kermiac, nope
[06:14] <ddecator> haha
[06:22] <kermiac> ddecator: looking through the +1 backscroll... were you hit by bug 532068?
[06:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 532068 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "Upgrading from karmic2lucid is giving error of open office dependency issue (affects: 1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532068
[06:23] <ddecator> maybe...let me take a look
[06:23] <ddecator> i assumed my issue was the fact that i technically had 3.1 and 3.2 installed at the same time, haha
[06:23] <kermiac> haha  :)
[06:25] <ddecator> yup, that's what i had
[06:26] <kermiac> ok :)
[09:30] <zetheroo> how do bug fixes get implemented into the official kernel? What strings have to be pulled?
[09:57] <yofel> zetheroo: best ask the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel
[10:05] <zetheroo> yofel: thanks
[11:41] <SwedeMike> hi. I have a bug registered that now seems to have been properly triaged etc (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516524), but this is also a problem for 9.10 (I just verified it on boot with 9.10), should I do anything special to make someone try to fix it for 9.10 as well?
[11:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 516524 in plymouth (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "mountall status clobbers passphrase prompt with plymouth text plugin (affects: 2)" [Medium,Triaged]
[11:44] <elleuca> could someone test if patch to bug #436887 is fine?
[11:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 436887 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Log out, shutdown and reboot confirmation alerts don't follow GNOME HIG (affects: 3)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436887
[12:52] <kermiac> anyone around who can check gnome bug 609902 with me? I think the git version that is being referenced has already been updated into lucid, but just want to make sure before I comment
[12:52] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[12:54] <arand> kermiac: If it's possible though a vm, I'm up for it.
[12:54] <kermiac> hey arand :) it should be (although I'm not 100% sure)
[12:55] <kermiac> the changelog for the latest nautilus in lucid says that patch was added into lucid http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/nautilus/nautilus_2.29.91-0ubuntu2/changelog
[12:55] <kermiac> & everyone (except 1 person who had elementary nautilus installed previously) I have discussed this with is still experiencing the issue
[12:58] <kermiac> I'm just not 100% sure of what I should do... seems like http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=c8ded383147e0f860f9a206e9f45606bf16effe9 & http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=4d742c83498df29d6f4b853dca946c0b4c4b13a3 & http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=95ae539e8d042b04ee9c6817bcc41f551ab207fc were added to lucid nautilus when looking at the most recent changelog
[12:58] <arand> Just gotta pull in all the latest updates..
[12:58] <kermiac> ok, np thanks arand :)
[13:00] <kermiac> just before you bother too much, might be a good idea to check 609902 effects you - it's a pretty specific bug. need to follow the test case I put in the bug description
[13:02] <arand> Well, that's just enabling extra pane, and relogin right?
[13:03] <kermiac> yep
[13:06] <arand> kermiac: yep, happens on 91-0ubuntu2
[13:08] <kermiac> yeah, it happens for me using that version of nautilus too & going from the changelogs, the 3 git commits I mentioned above were already applied to that nautlius version in lucid, right?
[13:10] <arand> I don't know about the git commits..
[13:13] <kermiac> well... I'm slowly starting to learn... the looking at the latest changelog for nautilus, it references (for example) "git update to revert the tab at the bottom change". That appears to be http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=4d742c83498df29d6f4b853dca946c0b4c4b13a3
[13:14] <kermiac> or the 5th last commit here http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/log/
[13:30] <arand> kermiac: I'm giessing at least 95ae539e8d042b04ee9c6817bcc41f551ab207fc isn't in current, since the changes there aren't present in current ubuntu source package, and the changelog stops at 2010-02-22
[13:31] <feralert> hi all archers
[13:43] <arand> kermiac: Nope none of the patches in ubuntu2 has anything to do with 95ae539e8, So I would assume it could use some patch-backporting
[13:44] <kermiac> thanks arand... for future reference, how did you find out that?
[13:49] <arand> kermiac: for example, we use 91 which is from 02-22 http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/tag/?id=2.29.91 So everything after that commit would have to have been pulled in explicitly, also I checked out the changes of 95ae539e8: http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=95ae539e8d042b04ee9c6817bcc41f551ab207fc and just a quick check showed that for example the extra line "/* make us the focused widget */" is not present in the relevant fi
[13:51] <kermiac> arand: so you checked (for example) the extra line "/* make us the focused widget */" is not in the current lucid nautilus source package?
[13:51] <kermiac> arand: sorry for the extra questions - it's a bit late here so it's not sinking in as well as it normally would ;)
[13:52] <arand> kermiac: yep, but that is probably not a good indocator as it could have been changed back in a later commit..
[13:54] <arand> kermiac: But the fact that 91 was the last resync with upstream and that the 89 92 93 patches are the only things that have changed past that.
[13:54] <kermiac> arand: ok, thanks :) I'll try to catch seb_128 when he's on next & check with him... thanks for looking into it for me :)
[14:11] <arand> Are there any guidelines when it comes to patch numbering? I there's already a 99_ ?
[14:14] <arand> kermiac_: hmm, Ignore what I said earlier about the line not being in the source, it is in fact, but in a patch...
[14:16] <arand> kermiac_: patch  92_* is in fact exactly commit 95ae539e8
[14:16] <kermiac_> arand: ahhh... that makes sense now :) that's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure. It's "debian patch 92"
[14:16] <kermiac_> yeah :)
[14:17] <arand> I was just looking at the this reverts ### which is obviously not the name of the commit itself...
[14:19] <arand> kermiac_: However c8ded383147e0f860f9a206e9f45606bf16effe9 seems not to be in there, which seems relevant, if the 95### commit indeed was...
[14:19] <kermiac_> the last comment in gnome bug 609902 has still got me a bit lost though. They say "new Nautilus windows now never show the extra
[14:19] <kermiac_> pane when they are created, which might be related" but for me, nautilus remembers the extra pane in a new window
[14:19] <ubot4> Gnome bug 609902 in general "Opening "Computer" with nautilus fails 1st time after login when using Extra Pane view (A.K.A "split view mode")" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609902
[14:21] <kermiac_> so it might be related to bug 515057
[14:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 515057 in nautilus (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "does not remember the adjustments of extra pane (affects: 3)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/515057
[14:23] <arand> kermiac_: I think that is actually by desgin http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=c8ded383147e0f860f9a206e9f45606bf16effe9
[14:24] <arand> Hrm, I'm being similarly confued now soory, the above commit is not in current nautilus afaik..
[14:24] <kermiac_> yeah, it seems that way. maybe once that is pushed into lucid my bug might dissapear
[14:25] <kermiac_> yup, that's why I've been going round in circles today too, lol
[14:26] <kermiac_> anyway, I've g2g get some sleep. thanks for the help arand... I'll ping seb_128 tomorrow & get his take on the issue. He should know if/ when that git commit is getting pushed to lucid
[14:26] <arand> Hrm, I'll just try to pull in that change and see what happens..
[14:26] <kermiac_> ok arand can you let me know what happens please... I've gotta get some sleep but I'll stay connected
[14:27] <arand> kermiac_: sure
[14:27] <kermiac_> arand: thanks :)
[15:21] <arand> kermiac_: Well, the issue doesn't appear, but what the change does is simply remove the possibility to start with a paned interface, so I'm assuming the core bug isn't gone..
[15:24] <arand> Assuming the core bug has nothing to do with the paned interface..
[21:31] <kermiac> thanks arand :)
[21:32] <alex_mayorga> just submitted Bug #533489 I think it might not be private, thanks
[21:32] <ubot4> alex_mayorga: Bug 533489 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/533489 is private
[21:32] <arand> kermiac: no problem, dunno about what to think about the bug itself though..
[21:33] <alex_mayorga> can someone help?
[21:34] <kermiac> sorry alex_mayorga, I can't see that bug as it's private :(
[21:34] <crimsun> I got an LP system error
[21:35] <kermiac> arand: yeah, I believe the bug is still there... but the git commit that makes nautilus "forget" the status of the extra pane works around it. Once that git commit hits lucid the symptom of the bug will be gone
[21:36] <bcurtiswx> yeah, why is LP in read only mode?
[21:36] <arand> kermiac: yup, do you know if it's meant to be included? In testing I've done most (I think) of the packaging for it..
[21:37] <bcurtiswx> well its not anymore
[21:37] <bcurtiswx> weird
[21:37] <alex_mayorga> kermiac: can I do something, about it?
[21:39] <kermiac> arand: there are a couple of different bug reports on LP that could be closed if that commit is pushed to lucid, but I'm not sure if they are going to include it or not. I *guess* they will, but that's only guessing/ assuming
[21:40] <arand> kermiac: Since I could get a debdiff ready quite quickly atm.
[21:40] <yofel> alex_mayorga: I doubt, if we (bug control) get a system error, then it's either flagged as a security bug or not a bug in Ubuntu
[21:41] <yofel> alex_mayorga: you might find someone in #launchpad that can access it
[21:41] <alex_mayorga> oh!
[21:41] <kermiac> arand: my best guess would be to ping seb_128 or chris_coulson... one of them should be able to tell you. probably seb as he seems to handle the nautilus stuff
[21:42] <alex_mayorga> I can go into a +secrecy URL
[21:42] <kermiac> arand: or just attatch the diff to the bug report
[21:42] <alex_mayorga> Can you see now? Bug #533489
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 533489 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "gwibber crashed with NameError in <lambda>() (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/533489
[21:42] <alex_mayorga> that worked it seems
[21:42] <arand> What's the policy on patch naming btw? if there's a 99_* should I just add 101_* ?
[21:44] <yofel> alex_mayorga: hm, odd, if it was just private we should have been able to see it
[21:44] <yofel> oh well
[21:46] <kermiac> arand: I would just name it something like "nautilus extra pane status patch" (or something simliar) & let seb worry about the debian patch numbering scheme as I'm not sure where/ if there is a list of the "debian patches"
[21:46] <alex_mayorga> yofel: I saw a similar top crasher as "fix released" but I'm on fully patched lucic and still crash
[21:57] <bcurtiswx> hey all, what would I report a bug against in which when a maximized chat window in empathy and typing in teh text area to the end of the window causes it to jump around and do weird things before the text wraps to the next line
[22:02] <alex_mayorga> how do I make my lucid laptop detect a VGA projector?
[22:02] <alex_mayorga> or the other way around
[22:02] <yofel> alex_mayorga: you might find better help for that in #ubuntu+1
[22:02] <alex_mayorga> yofel: ups, mixed channel, thanks :(
[22:08] <bcurtiswx> nvm about that
[22:34] <arand> kermiac: Ok, debdiff attached, do you know when seb_128 is usually around?
[22:35] <kermiac> arand: you can usually find him on at most times of the day, but I haven't seen him for a couple of days
[22:39] <BalleClorin> Is there a controller available to change status on Bug #335855 to triaged for me?
[22:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 335855 in checkinstall (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Checkinstall cannot create a package if the current directory contain space in name" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335855
[22:42] <yofel> BalleClorin: done, what importance would you give it?
[22:43] <BalleClorin> haven't really read the guidelines for importance yet, but I guess I should...
[22:43] <BalleClorin> thinking of adopting checkinstall..
[22:43] <yofel> BalleClorin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[22:44] <BalleClorin> low I gues...
[22:44] <BalleClorin> guess
[22:44] <BalleClorin> reading now…
[22:45] <yofel> I would too, as the simple workaround is to make sure no dir has spaces
[22:47] <BalleClorin> I agree
[22:47] <yofel> BalleClorin: are you Andreas Noteng?
[22:47] <BalleClorin> yes
[22:47] <yofel> ok
[22:49] <BalleClorin> thanks
[22:49] <yofel> yw
[23:44] <stoltzld> is there anyone else who can't contact www.netselectjobs.com with firefox or curl?
[23:50] <yofel> stoltzld: seems down, doesn't respond to pings too
[23:54] <stoltzld> I know the site works, I've accessed it on other computers
[23:55] <stoltzld> I think it might have something to do with timestamps
[23:55] <stoltzld> I don't think I've ever been able to access it with them enabled