[00:17] <Nafai> (Changing the entries in the messaging indicator to generic names)++
[11:45] <czajkowski> upgrade to lucid just zapped my wifi driver grrrrr
[11:53] <testx> hi everybody
[11:54] <chrisccoulson> hi testx
[11:54] <testx> i'm new int the channel, so wanted to say hello
[11:55] <testx> *t
[11:58] <testx> so what's up ?? new ideas, work in progress... ?
[14:41] <mdeslaur> How would I go about debugging why my indicator-messages stopped working with recent updates?
[15:18] <asac> mdeslaur: you know which package upgrad ecause this?
[15:18] <asac> e.g. confirmed that its indicator-messages package failur?
[15:19] <mdeslaur> asac: actually, it's working for evolution...it's just the envelope changing is now so subtle that I thought it was broke
[15:19] <mdeslaur> asac: it's not working for pidgin though, which I'm investigating
[15:29] <mdeslaur> ah...pidgin-libnotify needs a rebuild
[16:05] <czajkowski> Next machine I buy is not gonna have a realtek driver!
[16:20] <jpds> czajkowski: Like I said before, use Intel. ;)
[16:21] <czajkowski> jpds: yes next machine.
[16:21] <czajkowski> now I'm having an issue where none of my music will play in Rhythm box but does in VLC
[17:53] <crimsun> czajkowski: / jpds: hmm? If you're referring to audio, Realtek is a major manufacturer of HDA codecs. Intel is only the provider of core logic in that context.
[17:53] <crimsun> czajkowski: details, please (alternately, a bug report)?
[17:55] <czajkowski> crimsun: hey
[17:55] <czajkowski> crimsun: just about to log a bug, but I don't know if it's against Rhythmbox or gstreamer
[17:55] <czajkowski> realtek issue was wifi and has been logged
[17:56] <czajkowski> I still have this issue since Karmic though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/477127
[18:00] <crimsun> czajkowski: Ah, ok. Regarding music, please just file the bug and let me know the bug number.
[18:00] <czajkowski> crimsun: ok thanks
[18:03] <crimsun> also, I've found Atheros wireless hardware to be quite less problematic than Intel for Karmic and Lucid
[18:03] <crimsun> anything driven by ath9k is rock-solid
[18:10] <czajkowski> crimsun: bug 533404
[18:12] <crimsun> czajkowski: pulse isn't running
[18:13] <crimsun> czajkowski: have you modified any configuration files in /etc/pulse or created anything yourself in ~/.pulse ?
[18:13] <czajkowski> not modified anything
[18:14] <czajkowski> it was working yesterday, today it's not. V
[18:14] <crimsun> czajkowski: please attach output from: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*
[18:15] <czajkowski> crimsun: will do
[18:16] <czajkowski> it's not an attachment
[18:16] <czajkowski> 1 liner?
[18:20] <crimsun> czajkowski: that isn't a pulseaudio bug (un)fortunately. Uninstall timidity.
[18:20] <crimsun> czajkowski: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats#timidity
[18:21] <crimsun> czajkowski: to recap, uninstall timidity, logout and login
[18:21] <crimsun> czajkowski: you may need to kill timidity manually, too
[18:21] <czajkowski> ahhh
[18:21] <czajkowski> ok
[18:21] <czajkowski> crimsun: thanks
[18:26] <crimsun> yw
[18:26] <czajkowski> crimsun: nope that didnt work
[18:26] <crimsun> hmm, I should just add that to apport-symptoms
[18:26] <czajkowski> when I tried to restart it
[18:26] <czajkowski> czajkowski@cypher:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/timidity force-reload * Stopping TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...                            [ OK ]  * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...                            [ OK ]
[18:27] <crimsun> czajkowski: what does "it" refer to?
[18:27] <czajkowski> czajkowski@cypher:~$ /etc/timidity/.esd_auth: Permission denied
[18:27] <czajkowski> No protocol specified
[18:27] <czajkowski> XOpenDisplay() failed
[18:27] <czajkowski> Home directory /etc/timidity not ours
[18:27] <crimsun> why did you use force-reload?
[18:27] <czajkowski> crimsun: because it says that in the wiki...
[18:27] <crimsun> czajkowski: but that isn't what /I/ said
[18:28] <czajkowski> ok
[18:28] <czajkowski> missed that bit
[18:28] <czajkowski> sorry
[18:28] <crimsun> np
[18:31] <czajkowski> brb
[18:35] <czajkowski> crimsun: I uninstalled timidity logged out and back in.
[18:36] <czajkowski> crimsun: launched rhythmbox again, and still there is an issue.
[18:37] <crimsun> czajkowski: what's the output from the terminal?
[18:37] <crimsun> we should follow up in ubuntu+1, please
[18:38] <czajkowski> ok
[22:48] <poningru> question re: different different de we use
[22:48] <poningru> do any of them allow us to specify new windows should be opeened in the background if the user is typing
[22:49] <poningru> because I often run into the scenario of /me having the focus stolen with a new window