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jacquesdptdtest ok, funny ubuntu mobile remix or netbook remix, mixed with well set compiz08:57
jacquesdptdvery classt08:57
jacquesdptdreboot08:57
jacquesdptdthat's better09:08
fschulte_ /whois fschulte10:24
=== fschulte_ is now known as fschulte
fschulteseems i need to register under another nick10:26
lifelessStevenK: is psb-meta buildable or relevant to lucid?10:36
persialifeless: I'm fairly certain that the modules found in a prior release in a PPA won't work in lucid.  I do not believe rebuilding those from source will help.10:41
persiaThere are rumours of a working PSB from Meego (started by me based on a MeeGo talk I attended), but I don't believe anyone has yet successfully integrated those with Ubuntu.10:41
persiaThere are also rumours that StevenK has a script in his IRC client that sets those who ask about PSB to auto-ignore, but I'm not sure how reliable those may be.10:42
lifeless:P10:45
lifelesslynne wanted [and got] a eeepc1101ha10:45
persiaI see.  Did it come with a preinstall, by chance?10:45
persiaSeems not, based on looking up product information.10:47
persiaIn any case, last I knew the drivers were closed-source only, and also relied on some features not available (and in a different form than) our X.10:48
persiaSo not even the typical shim+blob solution is enough.10:48
persiaThey were made available in a seriously hacked form for a couple releases: so you could run those, but not lucid.10:49
lifelesspersia: yeah; dkms module fails to build11:23
lifelessphys_to_gart not defined11:24
persiaThis is a recurring issue with the PSB drivers.  I believe they worked for hardy and jaunty with sufficient extra bits, but I'm not convinced they worked for intrepid or karmic, and I'm sure they don7t work for lucid.11:25
* persia has an unfortunately high number of PSB devices, and hopes they end up supported before they are so obsolete as to be unusable.11:26
loollifeless: ISTR people mentionning that it could be made to build under karmic11:31
loolin a launchpad bug11:31
loolhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-psb/+bug/33090611:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330906 in xserver-xorg-video-psb "MASTER: GMA-500 lacks driver for 8.10 and 9.10 (poulsbo works only on 8.04 and 9.04)" [Wishlist,Triaged]11:33
persialool: Wasn't there also some change to VESA to support 1024x600 ?11:35
StevenKYes, the Gutsy stuff could be forced to work under Karmic. I have no idea how, and don't care to find out how.11:38
persiaGutsy?  Jaunty?11:39
StevenKEr, Jaunty, yes11:39
* persia has made that mistake about 20 times in the past couple days,having never made if before, and vaguely wonders how such an effective meme developed.11:39
lifelessStevenK: looks like two trivial changes to make it build under lucid11:40
persialifeless: The jaunty stuff?  Cool.  Care to toss it in a PPA?11:41
persia(or multiverse, if you're feeling brave)11:41
* persia hasn't checked the license, but suspects it may be multiverse-OK)11:41
lifelesspersia: there is an eeepc-control ppa already11:41
lifelessit just needs a small update to it; its documented in the forums already11:41
persialifeless: Yeah, but I'd like it for my non-ppa stuff :)11:41
lifelessjust rebooting now to test it11:41
persiaerr, non-eee11:41
StevenKpersia: Given how PSB still requires it's own DRM stack, I'd rather it not hit the archive.11:42
persiaStevenK: Oh, right.  This makes sense.11:43
* persia had happily forgotten most of the details.11:43
StevenKI wish I had.11:43
lifelessStevenK: so11:53
lifelessI have a loading psb module11:54
StevenKRight, that's only half the issue11:55
StevenKNow you need to make sure the X driver installs and works11:55
lifelessif you have any tips, that would be lovely. ;)11:57
StevenKSee if it builds against the xserver in Lucid.11:57
lifelessStevenK: did the 3d one work previously, or just 2d?12:22
StevenKlifeless: Try 2d first, but 2d is probably the most trying to get working12:23
lifelesszomg cvs is a build-dep12:28
persialifeless: Well of course.  You always want to be able to track the revisions of changes that happen during build, and why not use the best available technology?12:31
lifelesshttp://www.nanoant.com/linux/compiling-kernel-iegd-10x-module-for-any-linux-distribution is interesting12:33
persiaLooks like it solves the special-private-version-of-drm issue12:39
lifelessyes12:46
lifelesspersia: speaking of sdks12:54
lifelessits a 124MB zip file.12:54
* persia hates the very concept of sdks harder.12:54
lifelessalso with mandatory registration12:55
lifelessasking for physical address and phone.12:55
persiaAn SDK is just another way of saying "we wrote incompatible software: here's a random blob of stuff that might help you also write incompatible software.  have fun!"12:55
lifelessvery much not an end user solution; haven't looked at redistribution aspects of it yet12:55
lifelessIma seeif itworks first.12:56
persiaEither your keyboard went wonky, you're reflexes just had a significant shock, or your machine is under way too much load.12:56
lifelessnearly midnight12:56
lifelessETIRED12:56
persiaIndeed.12:57
lifelessoh, and hanging download.13:01
* lifeless hates on this13:01
persiaIn the morning the download may have finished.13:02
lifelessno13:06
lifelessits a broken bw cap I think13:06
lifeless324K/sec - not my line speed, and no variation13:06
lifelessfirst connection hung, second is going well13:07
lifelessoh thats special13:14
lifelessit contains a windows exe13:14
lifelesspersia: and a full jre13:22
lifelessand a copy of eclipse13:22
lifelessgnight13:23

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