[08:57] <jacquesdptd> test ok, funny ubuntu mobile remix or netbook remix, mixed with well set compiz
[08:57] <jacquesdptd> very classt
[08:57] <jacquesdptd> reboot
[09:08] <jacquesdptd> that's better
[10:24] <fschulte_>  /whois fschulte
=== fschulte_ is now known as fschulte
[10:26] <fschulte> seems i need to register under another nick
[10:36] <lifeless> StevenK: is psb-meta buildable or relevant to lucid?
[10:41] <persia> lifeless: I'm fairly certain that the modules found in a prior release in a PPA won't work in lucid.  I do not believe rebuilding those from source will help.
[10:41] <persia> There are rumours of a working PSB from Meego (started by me based on a MeeGo talk I attended), but I don't believe anyone has yet successfully integrated those with Ubuntu.
[10:42] <persia> There are also rumours that StevenK has a script in his IRC client that sets those who ask about PSB to auto-ignore, but I'm not sure how reliable those may be.
[10:45] <lifeless> :P
[10:45] <lifeless> lynne wanted [and got] a eeepc1101ha
[10:45] <persia> I see.  Did it come with a preinstall, by chance?
[10:47] <persia> Seems not, based on looking up product information.
[10:48] <persia> In any case, last I knew the drivers were closed-source only, and also relied on some features not available (and in a different form than) our X.
[10:48] <persia> So not even the typical shim+blob solution is enough.
[10:49] <persia> They were made available in a seriously hacked form for a couple releases: so you could run those, but not lucid.
[11:23] <lifeless> persia: yeah; dkms module fails to build
[11:24] <lifeless> phys_to_gart not defined
[11:25] <persia> This is a recurring issue with the PSB drivers.  I believe they worked for hardy and jaunty with sufficient extra bits, but I'm not convinced they worked for intrepid or karmic, and I'm sure they don7t work for lucid.
[11:26]  * persia has an unfortunately high number of PSB devices, and hopes they end up supported before they are so obsolete as to be unusable.
[11:31] <lool> lifeless: ISTR people mentionning that it could be made to build under karmic
[11:31] <lool> in a launchpad bug
[11:33] <lool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-psb/+bug/330906
[11:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 330906 in xserver-xorg-video-psb "MASTER: GMA-500 lacks driver for 8.10 and 9.10 (poulsbo works only on 8.04 and 9.04)" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[11:35] <persia> lool: Wasn't there also some change to VESA to support 1024x600 ?
[11:38] <StevenK> Yes, the Gutsy stuff could be forced to work under Karmic. I have no idea how, and don't care to find out how.
[11:39] <persia> Gutsy?  Jaunty?
[11:39] <StevenK> Er, Jaunty, yes
[11:39]  * persia has made that mistake about 20 times in the past couple days,having never made if before, and vaguely wonders how such an effective meme developed.
[11:40] <lifeless> StevenK: looks like two trivial changes to make it build under lucid
[11:41] <persia> lifeless: The jaunty stuff?  Cool.  Care to toss it in a PPA?
[11:41] <persia> (or multiverse, if you're feeling brave)
[11:41]  * persia hasn't checked the license, but suspects it may be multiverse-OK)
[11:41] <lifeless> persia: there is an eeepc-control ppa already
[11:41] <lifeless> it just needs a small update to it; its documented in the forums already
[11:41] <persia> lifeless: Yeah, but I'd like it for my non-ppa stuff :)
[11:41] <lifeless> just rebooting now to test it
[11:41] <persia> err, non-eee
[11:42] <StevenK> persia: Given how PSB still requires it's own DRM stack, I'd rather it not hit the archive.
[11:43] <persia> StevenK: Oh, right.  This makes sense.
[11:43]  * persia had happily forgotten most of the details.
[11:43] <StevenK> I wish I had.
[11:53] <lifeless> StevenK: so
[11:54] <lifeless> I have a loading psb module
[11:55] <StevenK> Right, that's only half the issue
[11:55] <StevenK> Now you need to make sure the X driver installs and works
[11:57] <lifeless> if you have any tips, that would be lovely. ;)
[11:57] <StevenK> See if it builds against the xserver in Lucid.
[12:22] <lifeless> StevenK: did the 3d one work previously, or just 2d?
[12:23] <StevenK> lifeless: Try 2d first, but 2d is probably the most trying to get working
[12:28] <lifeless> zomg cvs is a build-dep
[12:31] <persia> lifeless: Well of course.  You always want to be able to track the revisions of changes that happen during build, and why not use the best available technology?
[12:33] <lifeless> http://www.nanoant.com/linux/compiling-kernel-iegd-10x-module-for-any-linux-distribution is interesting
[12:39] <persia> Looks like it solves the special-private-version-of-drm issue
[12:46] <lifeless> yes
[12:54] <lifeless> persia: speaking of sdks
[12:54] <lifeless> its a 124MB zip file.
[12:54]  * persia hates the very concept of sdks harder.
[12:55] <lifeless> also with mandatory registration
[12:55] <lifeless> asking for physical address and phone.
[12:55] <persia> An SDK is just another way of saying "we wrote incompatible software: here's a random blob of stuff that might help you also write incompatible software.  have fun!"
[12:55] <lifeless> very much not an end user solution; haven't looked at redistribution aspects of it yet
[12:56] <lifeless> Ima seeif itworks first.
[12:56] <persia> Either your keyboard went wonky, you're reflexes just had a significant shock, or your machine is under way too much load.
[12:56] <lifeless> nearly midnight
[12:56] <lifeless> ETIRED
[12:57] <persia> Indeed.
[13:01] <lifeless> oh, and hanging download.
[13:01]  * lifeless hates on this
[13:02] <persia> In the morning the download may have finished.
[13:06] <lifeless> no
[13:06] <lifeless> its a broken bw cap I think
[13:06] <lifeless> 324K/sec - not my line speed, and no variation
[13:07] <lifeless> first connection hung, second is going well
[13:14] <lifeless> oh thats special
[13:14] <lifeless> it contains a windows exe
[13:22] <lifeless> persia: and a full jre
[13:22] <lifeless> and a copy of eclipse
[13:23] <lifeless> gnight