[00:00] <qman__> I update the desktops first week or two, wait a little longer for the servers
[00:00] <AnRkey> 8.04.4 is still rocking for me here
[00:00] <AnRkey> i ran into a brick wall with 9.10
[00:00] <AnRkey> i need to be more patient
[00:00] <AnRkey> waiting is best
[00:00] <qman__> 9.10 was a bit bumpy for some, personally I didn't have any problems, but I know others who did
[00:01] <AnRkey> my desktop was shweet
[00:01] <qman__> I've been upgrading this desktop since 7.10 every cycle
[00:01] <AnRkey> the thing that got me most upset though was that super+e key can not be bound to nautilus anymore
[00:02] <qman__> my biggest nitpick is that I really don't like amarok 2, at all
[00:02] <qman__> and now I can't get a music player I like
[00:02] <qman__> hoping exaile will get progress soon
[00:02] <AnRkey> i feel the same way about winamp
[00:02] <AnRkey> now i dont like winamp either
[00:02] <AnRkey> i'm on a winblows 7 desktop now
[00:03] <AnRkey> brushing up on it a bit
[00:03] <qman__> ah, my windows box runs XP
[00:03] <AnRkey> 7 is quite nice
[00:03] <AnRkey> MS got it right
[00:03] <AnRkey> imho
[00:03] <AnRkey> i miss 8.04 though
[00:03] <AnRkey> that was my best
[00:03] <AnRkey> everything just worked for me
[00:03] <qman__> I don't like all the junk they added
[00:04] <AnRkey> maybe was just luck
[00:04] <qman__> to be perfectly honest, I'd be using windows 2000 if app compatibility wasn't so poor these days
[00:04] <AnRkey> i removed all the desktop crap and so on
[00:04] <AnRkey> hehe, i have 17 x 2000 boxes left
[00:04] <qman__> I only use windows for games anyway, so it doesn't really matter
[00:04] <AnRkey> i miss the shell
[00:05] <qman__> yeah, bash is where it's at
[00:05] <AnRkey> cant wait for lucid, cause then i'm going back
[00:05] <AnRkey> should know 7 by then
[00:05] <AnRkey> i often open up cmd prompt and start "bashing" only to realise where i am :(
[00:05] <qman__> I do the same thing
[00:05] <qman__> cmd is so useless
[00:06] <AnRkey> well, with the gnu tools installed i sometimes manage
[00:06] <AnRkey> it's not the same though :(
[00:06] <AnRkey> woot
[00:06] <AnRkey> box is rebooting
[00:07] <AnRkey> can go sleep soon
[00:07] <AnRkey> 2:07am here :(
[00:07] <AnRkey> rolling a blunt before bed quick :D
[00:07] <qman__> hah
[00:08] <qman__> it's only 1900 here
[00:08] <AnRkey> is it friday though ?
[00:09] <AnRkey> it's sat morning here
[00:09] <qman__> yes
[00:09] <AnRkey> then u'r set man :)
[00:09] <AnRkey> i'm going to shoot stuff with shotguns in the morning, my mates and i are going to a range
[00:09] <qman__> nice
[00:09] <AnRkey> hehe, i'm just a 30 year old kid
[00:10] <AnRkey> winchester 1300 defender
[00:10] <AnRkey> woot headers are installed
[00:10] <AnRkey> dude, i owe u one ;)
[00:10] <qman__> no problem, glad it works
[00:11] <AnRkey> well make install is running now
[00:11] <AnRkey> and app is built
[00:11] <AnRkey> and the barcodes start printing :D
[00:11] <AnRkey> shweet, now i can go sleep
[00:11] <AnRkey> k, g'night
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> zul, for example, in vsftpd, what should the hook includes besides the conffile? I was putting the .log and that's pretty much it
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> is that enough?
[06:15] <herbero> Hi all, so I am reinstalling and re-partitioning my RAID setup after a dismal...dismal failure
[06:15] <herbero> I wanted to run it by someone to make sure I am doing it right
[06:15] <herbero> can someone lend me their ears?
[06:17] <dns53> you can ask, i'm not an expert
[06:22] <dns53> what i have done with my file server is have boot and the os on a separate non raid drive and use raid 10 and lvm on top of that
[06:23] <herbero> dns53: interesting
[06:24] <dns53> what you probably should do is have a 100mb boot partition on one of the drives at least, maybe on all of them and copy the data between them
[06:24] <dns53> grub2  might help with booting problems
[06:25] <herbero> dns53: so, how woudl that work in the partition editor? I was doing 2G across 2 drives as /boot and then mirroring it, and then RAID 5 across 3 drives so... /dev/md0 was sda1 and sdb1, and RAID 5 was sda2 adb2 sdc2 and sdd2
[06:25] <herbero> but you are recommending putting /boot on an entirely non-RAID drive or just a non-raid partition?
[06:27] <dns53> non raid partition at least, i think it is possible to have everything in raid but you could have problems with grub
[06:27] <herbero> I did last time
[06:27] <dns53> i bought a cheap hard disk for my os after messing things up before
[06:27] <herbero> I think if RAID or hd crashes, I could at least salvage /boot from partition 1
[06:27] <herbero> that is non-raid
[06:27] <herbero> less to configure too
[06:28] <dns53> i've heard that you could have a raid 1 /boot partition and have grub installed on both partitions so it is redundant but i have not tried it myself
[06:30] <herbero> dns53: mine was that, lasted about a year and then MASSIVE grub failure when I lost a disk...I could get RAID 1 back but not /boot or my OS
[06:30] <herbero> was forced to attempt recovery from livecd
[06:31] <dns53> did you install grub on both disks?
[06:31] <herbero> dns53: well, it was mirrored, but only sda1 was set to use /boot
[06:33] <herbero> so
[06:33] <herbero> it was on both disks, but really it was established on sda1
[06:34] <dns53> you should be able to boot a live cd and mount your data
[06:34] <ninjah> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 i386 and it won't boot on my laptop. It says "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6"
[06:34] <ninjah> Any ideas?
[06:35] <dns53> what laptop? strange error, might be that you have an atom cpu or something
[06:35] <ninjah> no
[06:35] <ninjah> think pad
[06:35] <ninjah> old one
[06:37] <herbero> dns53: nah a disk failed, and when I resynced must have dones something screwy cuz I had tons of superblock errors and fs errors
[06:40] <dns53> it was using software raid? and you failed a disk and rebuilt it?
[06:40] <herbero> dns53: aye
[06:43] <herbero> dns53: so how does this look for a RAID 5 setup? sda1 2G /boot sda2 500gb K RAID, sda3 498.2gb K RAID, sdb1 2G swap, sdb2 500gb k RAID, sdb3 498.2gb K RAID, sdc1 2G swap, sdc 2 500gb K RAID, sdc3 498.2 K RAID, sdd1 2G swap, sdd2 500g k RAID, sdd3 498.2g K RAID
[06:43] <herbero> dns53: so /dev/md0 RAID 5 is sda2 sda3, sdb2, sdb3, sdc2, sdc3, sdd2 and sdd3
[06:46] <dns53> so why sda3, sdb3  sdc3?
[06:46] <herbero> dns53: I geuss you are right, but I was going to have separate /home / partitions o
[06:46] <herbero> but I prolly don't need to do that
[06:48] <dns53> i do that by putting lvm2 on top of md0, so i have a raid of /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdd /dev/sde in a raid 10, and then have lots of lvm2 partitions split into /home and several storage partitions
[06:49] <dns53> that will hopefully allow me to buy another 4 disks, create another raid 10, add that to the existing lvm and then increasing the partitions
[06:50] <herbero> dns53: not sure I can hack lvm on top of RAID, RAID gave me a lot of troubles alone. But I am told LVM makes it easier to switch out volumes as you grow the array and ass stuff gets freaky and weird
[06:50] <herbero> dns53: is it feasible to just do sda2 sdb2 sdc2 and sdd2 as all mounted /
[06:50] <herbero> ?
[06:50] <herbero> I mean, without LVM?
[06:51] <dns53> you need something to combine the disks, so either raid or lvm
[06:52] <dns53> i'd prefer lvm but that does not support raid 5
[06:52] <herbero> dns53: right, but if sda2 sdb2 sdc2 and sdd2 are all RAID, then it should sync everything ...and I will externally backup the rest on my sde1
[06:52] <herbero> atleast whatever I can fit
[06:53] <dns53> i think you create a /dev/md0 device, and you can then partition that into partitions
[07:00] <sherr> ninjah: that error is either you booting a 64 bit kernel, or a PAE kernel (or something), on a machine that does not support it i.e. wrong kernel type.
[07:04] <qman__> ninjah, how old? "Ubuntu i386" is actually i686, so if your CPU isn't at least an i686 it installs but fails on the next boot
[07:05] <qman__> you need to install the linux-image-(version)-386 kernel for older than i686
[08:14] <digitalfiz> i was wondering if anybody knew what setup i had to have to make it so php scripts run in apache would be run under a specified user like cpanel does
[08:14] <kaushal> hi
[08:15] <digitalfiz> i herd of suphp but theres baaaad talks about the performance hit you get from it. i dont have a cpanel server to inspect
[11:09] <Anirban>  [Sat Mar 06 09:34:16 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down .... what does it mean ?
[11:52] <sherr> Anirban: ? an application (or your machine) has been told it is "shutting down". Normal when you "shutdown" or "restart" (or "terminate" processes). See : man kill
[14:52] <sivang> hi all
[14:53] <sivang> mysql-server installation on my 8.04.3LTS box was left without priv tables and with no way to logging in a way that allows creating priv'd users?
[14:53] <sivang> Anybody has an idea about this?
[14:53] <sivang> How can I redo the configuration process of dpkg ?
[14:53] <sivang> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server does nothing....
[14:54] <sivang> If this is the default , then this ia  a major critical bug and a show stopper to the LAMP task
[14:58] <sivang> ah, okay
[14:59] <sivang> diggin into the postinst revleas the secret
[14:59] <sivang> thanks all
[14:59] <sivang> bye
[15:10] <sivang> back
[15:10] <sivang> so postinst didn't help at all
[15:10] <sivang> How can one re-do the root account password setup process ?
[15:11] <sivang> in postgres packages this can be done with dpkg-reconfigure
[15:11]  * sivang thinks of the windows way to remove and reinstall the server.
[15:55] <sherr> sivang: try : dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (or whatever specific number)
[16:13] <vegar_> Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I am trying to find out if there is an UPNP/DLNA server for ubuntu which can stream LastFM radio to its clients?
[16:14] <vegar_> My TV set supports DLNA and Mediatomb does an excellent job of sharing my videos. It would be plain awesome if I could also make mediatomb stream lastfm music to the tv
[16:15] <vegar_> I know that mediatomb 0.12 supports scrobbling, but I suspect that's scrobbling/submission only, not streaming
[17:31] <sivang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/389730/
[17:31] <sivang> any idea nyone ?
[17:31] <sivang> I purged -common, so conffiles should have reappeared no?
[17:37] <pwnguin> sivang: did you read the /usr/share/doc/README.Debian.gz?
[17:38] <sivang> pwnguin: yes
[17:39] <pwnguin> (I haven't)
[17:39] <sivang> pwnguin: good as wind cups toi a dead man
[17:39] <sivang> pwnguin: also reading it would not help get debian-mant back
[17:40] <pwnguin> ?
[17:40] <sivang> pwnguin: read it and see
[17:41] <pwnguin> i dont have mysql installed on any boxes
[17:41] <sivang> do you know if ubunt's dpkg support --force-confmiss
[17:41] <sivang> ?
[17:41] <sivang> like debian does?
[17:41] <sivang> never mind
[17:42] <pwnguin> im not sure why it wouldn't
[17:42] <sivang> well, it does not work :_)
[17:42] <pwnguin> ebian `dpkg' package management program version 1.15.4ubuntu1 (i386)
[17:44] <pwnguin> seems pretty new to me
[17:45] <pwnguin> sivang: how did you do the purge?
[17:46] <pwnguin> sivang: ive found that apt-get remove --purge won't work if the package is already removed =(
[18:07] <knoxville_> how can I give SCP access, but not terminal access, I just want to allow users to transfer files and not commands?
[18:14] <qman__> knoxville_, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[18:14] <qman__> oh, whoops
[18:14] <qman__> that's old
[18:14] <qman__> thought that was the right one
[18:14] <qman__> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[18:15] <knoxville_> thanks qman_ I think that is what I needed
[18:25] <ruben23> hi are there ways i can monitor, whos IP or client are using more bandwidth on my network.....its like a monitoring apps
[18:28] <knoxville_> ruben23, did you see if any of these would work http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[18:28] <guntbert> ruben23: iptraf is good
[18:29] <guntbert> ruben23: knoxville_ had a better idea :)
[18:29] <ruben23> guntbert: is graphical..?
[18:29] <guntbert> ruben23: no - not for server :)
[18:29] <Andy-at-home> guys, i have just received my first VPS that is running v9.04, whats the best way to share desktops?
[18:30] <Andy-at-home> VNC?
[18:32] <ruben23> knoxville_: thanks i look on this
[18:32] <knoxville_> np
[18:34] <BulleTh0> Hi. I installed 2 internet extra cards a while ago, and it seems are not working properly. I configured them prperly in /etc/network/interfaces, restarted and ifconfig looked ok. If I unplug the first network card, i don't have ping on the ips. If I unplug any of the other 2, I still have ping on each of the 3 ips
[18:34] <BulleTh0> 2 extra ethernet cards.
[18:34] <Andy-at-home> guess i choose the wrong linux
[18:35] <guntbert> Andy-at-home: why?
[18:36] <Andy-at-home> support not very friendly
[18:40] <guntbert> !attitude | Andy-at-home
[18:42] <BulleTh0> So .. for my problem.. there is nobody ?
[18:42] <Andy-at-home> exactly
[19:35] <d4n1> hey, anyone active, how do i use UserDir?
[19:37] <zroysch> what do i do after fscking a partition and it still doesnt mount
[19:38] <RoAkSoAx> zul, Here is the patch. Could you please take a look at it? lp:~andreserl/ubuntu/lucid/vsftpd/vsftpd-apport-531978 if it is ok, I'll link it to the bug and then, do I need to request FFe
[19:38] <RoAkSoAx> zul, Here is the patch. Could you please take a look at it? lp:~andreserl/ubuntu/lucid/vsftpd/vsftpd-apport-531978 if it is ok, I'll link it to the bug and then, do I need to request FFe?
[20:37] <tonedevf> I've got a puzzling situation here... I have a machine running Jaunty server that refuses to work with more than 1 IP addresse at a time.  I've tried the usual methods for binding multiple IPs to one nic, installing multiple nics and binding one IP to each, and i've even tried installing Karmic but to no avail.  Whenever a second eth is brought up, at least one ip stops responding. any ideas?
[20:37] <tonedevf> It is an older-ish HP server, but this problem occurs both with the original NICs as well as new Intel Pro/1000 nics.  I've got other ubuntu boxes connected to the same switch binding to multiple IP addresses just fine.
[20:38] <tonedevf> Thanks in advance for any help : )
[20:40] <sherr> zroysch: maybe try "testdisk" if you want to try data recovery
[20:41] <zroysch> sherr so theres no way to mount it after fsck's run clean
[20:50] <sherr> zroysch: no idea. it fails to mount?
[20:50] <larsemil> anyone got any experience of volktek switchesP
[20:50] <larsemil> ??
[20:50] <sherr> if the filesystem corrupt, you either run fsck to fix, or try another recovery method
[21:17] <eekeek> 'RewriteMap' can go in <Virtual host> tags, but not in <Directory> tags - right?
[21:37] <sherr> eekeek: unless the apache docs are incorrect, right (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html)
[21:38] <eekeek> thanks sherr.
[22:20] <rich> hello, does anyone have any experience with installing madwifi drivers?
[23:01] <chocamo> I know basing a server over wireless is bad, but its for my gf just to stream crap. What the best way to setup wireless networking on ubuntu server?
[23:02] <poningru> chocamo, wpa-supplicant if you are going security
[23:02] <chocamo> ok thanks
[23:02] <poningru> for ip stuff use iwconfig
[23:02] <poningru> and add that to the if-up scripts
[23:02] <poningru> err rather the essid stuff use iwconfig
[23:03] <poningru> and for ip stuff use ifconfig like normal interface
[23:38] <sinisa> hi all
[23:39] <sinisa> Im trying to install ubunut server 9.10 32bit on my AMD computer and cant get further than startup screen
[23:39] <sinisa> Ive clicked on a "install ubuntu server" it shows dialog "yinstall/vmlinuz" .. ive clicked "ok" and thats all
[23:42] <sinisa> anyone?