[00:46] <Nafai> I thought ubuntu one used to have a notification icon or an app indicator, but I'm not seeing one now (I'm on the very latest in Lucid)
[01:33] <duanedesign> Nafai: The Lucid version does not have an applet
[01:35] <Nafai> ok
[01:36] <Nafai> is there any way to check syncing progress, etc?
[01:36] <Bookman> I seem to have a problem where all my files in my Ubuntu One directory are read only.  I've tried to change the permissions via root but they are still the same.
[01:37] <Bookman> Actually, it is not all files.  Just one.
[01:38] <duanedesign> Bookman: if you do: ls -la ~/Ubuntu\ One
[01:39] <duanedesign> are you the owner and group?
[01:39] <Bookman> Yes, the only way out was to load it, save a copy, delete the original and then rename the copy.  Works now, thanks.
[01:40] <duanedesign> interesting...glad you got it sorted Bookman :)
[01:40] <Bookman> Thanks, sorry to jump the gun!
[01:40] <duanedesign> no harm, no foul
[01:41] <Bookman> I must say, it is working pretty smooth now!  Just too many conflict files created.
[01:44] <Bookman> I am creating a program with Gambas and I use a working directory in my Ubuntu One directory so that I can program no matter where I am.  This creates a ton of conflict files.  Maybe using the Ubuntu One directory as a working directory is not a good idea?
[01:47] <duanedesign> Bookman: i ihave seen bug reports similar to what you are describing.
[01:48] <Bookman> That is actually a good thing.  I'll keep plugging along then!
[03:07] <wgrant> My Gwibber messages DB is getting pretty big. Shouldn't it delete things after a while?
[03:09] <kermiac> hey :) quick question re triaging u1 bugs - I'm seeing a lot of bugs with "DBus Error: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.". Previously I was setting them as dupes of bug 498444 (as per info in the wiki), but I have seen a few unmarked as dupes.... how would I ensure they are
[03:09] <kermiac>  dupes or not?
[12:35] <duanedesign> kermiac_: good question. I have been wanting to get some clarification on that  myself. If you gain a better undderstanding of this (and its not in here) let me know please
[12:36] <kermiac_> duanedesign: yeah, I'm seeing a lot of them lately, but not triaging as I've obviously mis-triaged a couple of them as they were un-duped. maybe the wiki needs updating or something...
[12:37] <duanedesign> kermiac_: The way i undderstand it is the symptom, the exclamation point, not connecting at boot-up is the deciding facter of dupe or not
[12:38] <duanedesign> but that is not always present in the reports :)
[12:38] <kermiac> duanedesign: ok, I'll try to keep that in mind.. that's what i was about to say - sometimes that info isn't in the reports :)
[12:39] <kermiac> perhaps it might be a good idea to ask for more info to clarify the OP bug reporter's exact issue
[12:39] <duanedesign> kermiac: i have noticed some with logs like the ones we are discussing, that are crashers
[12:41] <duanedesign> kermiac: good idea. Ill make a note to ask the U1 team for clarification on that error in the log and possibly other things that could be used to help triage them properly
[12:41] <kermiac> duanedesign: so it seems like it may even be a more general fault... I'm not entirely sure though, seems like the same "dbus not responding" message under different circumstances (i.e some not connecting, some connecting, some crashers, etc)
[12:42] <kermiac> that's another reason why I've stopped triaging them as there seems to be multiple scenarios that may bring up the same error message in the logs
[12:42]  * kermiac got confused
[12:45] <duanedesign> kermiac: i have done the same...
[12:49] <kermiac> duanedesign: if you're around when one of the devs are, can you please ask for a bit of clarification & maybe ping me or update the wiki? I'd like to find out exactly what we should be doing as there are a decent amount of these types of bugs and I'm sure most of them would be dupes. It would be nice to be able to clean them up :)
[13:14] <duanedesign> kermiac: i will definetly will do that and ping you with anything i find out.
[13:14] <kermiac> thanks duanedesign, I would really appreciate that :)
[13:57]  * popey wonders why bug 532966 has been marked low
[14:02] <duanedesign> we are getting a large number of bug reports like bug 532934
[21:18] <duanedesign> rye: ping
[21:21] <rye> duanedesign, pong
[21:22] <boondoklife> is ubuntuone working on lucid? I cant seem to get my system to pull or put any files up there.
[21:24] <duanedesign> rye: any idea what could be causing the package in the beta ppa to fail
[21:24] <rye> duanedesign, r321 ?
[21:25] <duanedesign> rye: there are reports it looks like for r321 and r407
[21:26] <rye> duanedesign, hmm... let me fire up my vm
[21:26] <duanedesign> bug
[21:26] <duanedesign> bug 532864
[21:26] <rye> hm
[21:27] <duanedesign> bug 533014
[21:27] <rye> ubottu, bug -1 bug 0 ?
[21:27] <duanedesign> those two pretty much represent the dozen or so reports that have been filed.
[21:29] <rye> package ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~karmic failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/u
[21:29] <rye> package ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~karmic &
[21:30] <rye> ubuntuone-client 0:1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~karmic
[21:30] <rye> ubuntuone-client-gnome does not say that it needs to have ubuntuone-client updated as well
[21:30] <rye> i remember dobey said something about this
[21:32] <duanedesign> rye: running 'Fix Broken Package' in Synaptic is supposed to allow the update to proceed
[21:32] <rye> duanedesign, it will probably upgrade the ubuntuone-client to r407 as well
[21:42] <rye> duanedesign, hm, just updated my karmic vm from 1.0.3 to ppa - 407
[21:42] <rye> no issues
[21:42] <duanedesign> rye: at first i thought it was related to people running the ~jaunty branch in Karmic.
[21:45] <duanedesign> because a lot of them are people running Karmic and trying to install ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty
[21:47] <duanedesign> then i started to see reports of people running ubuntuone-client 0:1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~karmic and trying to install r407 on Karmic
[21:59] <rye> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bugs?field.searchtext=%22trying+to+overwrite%22
[21:59] <rye> wow
[22:00] <rye> how do they do that?
[22:19]  * rye has some problems with lucid mountall - I have successfull boots 1 time of 3... Waiting for /home [SM]... in plymouth... why is it waiting and who is SM? :)
[22:20] <rye> bug
[22:20] <rye> username is not taken from lp/sso when syncdaemon requests server account info
[22:20] <rye> i am still roman-yepishev there... though I have changed my lp nickname for 4 or 5 times...
[22:21]  * rye needs to use normal english...
[22:26] <duanedesign> ahh your back :)
[22:27] <duanedesign> rye: heh, you saw all those reports
[22:52] <duanedesign> rye: i gotta do some MOTU work. i realize its getting late/early there but if you have any sugggestions for how we should triage those bugs let me know.
[22:53] <rye> duanedesign, i am now testing some networking stuff but I will look into these reports as soon as I have my connection working properly again. It looks like the versions of ubuntuone-client-gnome and ubuntuone-client disagree about who is the owner of the file, therefore we need to make sure that the update will force the upgrade of all related packages
[22:54] <rye> I am searching for dobey's answer on this but can't find yet - it was in some bug report but since my connection is now limited to IRC I am not that productive
[22:55] <duanedesign> ill poke around a bit and see if i can find it
[22:55] <dobey> it's fixed already, but the ppa might not have fixed packages? 1.1.3 is in lucid now though, and fixed
[22:55] <dobey> (and now, i'm gone again)
[23:05] <duanedesign> bug 523752
[23:05] <duanedesign> rye: ^^
[23:06] <rye> duanedesign, true
[23:07] <duanedesign> rye: that was reported last month
[23:07] <duanedesign> rye: why all of the sudden we get 12 reports today
[23:15] <rye> Version: 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~karmic
[23:15] <rye> Replaces: nautilus-ubuntuone, ubuntuone-oauth-login, ubuntuone-storagefs
[23:15] <rye> Depends: python-ubuntuone-client (= 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~karmic), python-configglue, python-apport
[23:16] <rye> looks ok to me
[23:50] <rye_> hm
[23:51] <rye_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:51] <rye_>   ubuntuone-client-gnome: Depends: ubuntuone-client (= 1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty) but 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~jaunty is installed
[23:51] <rye_> jaunty vm
[23:51] <rye_> weird
[23:52] <rye_> regular apt-get upgrade updated ubuntuone-client to 1.1.2+r407-0ubuntu2~ppa1~jaunty but left ubuntuone-client-gnome at 1.1.1+r321-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty