[00:18] meowbuntu: i just commented on that thread [00:25] there another post that may be helpful :) [00:26] gnomefreak, i rellped to your reply [00:26] meowbuntu: ok checking [00:26] * replied to [00:27] meowbuntu: 4 and 5 on your list or mine? [00:27] sorry my list [00:28] ok thanks i will post it in a minute [00:32] Amaranth: something been beathing my head for a few days [00:32] Amaranth: super+alt windows swicher is bugged, I bet [00:32] do it once, you change to 2nd wind. [00:33] stop, do it again, you change back to 1 [00:33] but. but you change to 2, stop change to 3, stop [00:33] to change back to 1, you have to circle ALL windows, cause 1 is now LAST. [00:33] that's not what I expected [00:33] bug or feature? [00:34] How do i install fglrx on lucid? [00:34] !ati [00:34] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment [00:35] hmm [00:35] Any ideas? [00:35] use jockey. but fglrx may not be compatible with the kernel yet [00:35] peder_: Are you sure you need it - the open source ATI drivers work reasonably well for a lot of cards now, even 3d [00:36] Lots of compiz effects and other is extremly laggy. [00:36] ok [00:36] meowbuntu: ok posted and i gave info on a couple of things that might help [00:40] gnomefreak, thanks [00:40] meowbuntu: np [00:42] meowbuntu: how do you subscribe to threads? [01:02] bjsnider: last I checked, fglrx and the kernel has a patch. it's fglrx and Xorg that's problematic. [01:04] is the picture (set in "about me") in the "me menu" showing up for anyone? [01:05] kermiac, let me try a sec [01:05] hey ddecator :) [01:05] kermiac, hey =), and no, doesn't show up (at least not immediately) [01:06] have you setup a pic using the "about me" thing? [01:08] gnomefreak, yes i do y [01:08] kermiac, just did [01:08] meowbuntu: nevermind i found it [01:10] ok, thanks for confirming ddecator :) [01:11] kermiac, anytime =) [01:18] gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string ":minimize,maximize,close" [01:19] eheh [01:20] you remember the campaign to preserve the keys for dvd or blu-ray or whatever it was? :) [01:20] this will be much more widely spread if Canonical doesn't fix the placement of the titlebar buttons. :) [01:22] I thought they had already reverted that change. [01:22] nope... and the bug reports just keep coming in :( [01:22] really? That would have to have been in the last few hours in that case. I upgraded only a few hours ago. [01:23] Ubuntu -- We're not just a cheap clone of Windows... we're a cheap clone of OS X! :) [01:24] i just did updates & it hasn't been reverted - I'm not even sure if it will be :( [01:25] kermiac, I'm not either. I remember reading something about Ubuntu starting to compete more with Apple than Microsoft. That makes sense, since we're now using Microsoft Bing as a search engine backend.... [01:25] my friend is stuck on his login screen b/c he picked the wrong video driver using ubuntu Lucid and a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 ctrl alt f2 brought him back to the text login where from here please? [01:26] * kermiac refrains from entering the search engine change debate yet again [01:26] olskolirc, stuck? I also got stuck on the login screen after upgrade here. The graphics flickered. I booted from the older kernel, and everything was fine. [01:26] he has a fresh install jo-erlend [01:27] kermiac, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sink to that level. It's just that I'm so terribly disappointed at this point, I need an outlet. :) === meowbuntu is now known as meowbuntu-away [01:27] olskolirc, stuck still doesn't describe much. If flickering is the issue, installing an older kernel might "solve" the issue. [01:27] np jo-erlend :) [01:28] hes froze jo-erlend as if he was on M$ [01:28] lol [01:30] hmm, geforce4mx? is it with the binary drivers, or nouveau? [01:30] yes, because this is he correct timing for Ubuntu having fun at the expense of MS.... [01:30] If it's the binary drivers, then that's just nvidia fail. [01:30] Two years ago, the nvidia 96 drivers ceased being able to do anything but segfault the X server. [01:31] And yet, they've updated them to "support" newer X servers. [01:31] "support" meaning "segfault". =þ [01:32] the new themes obviously haven't been tested, gwibber doesn't work at all, and the GUIs for it are so unintelligible, it's amazing if an average user will be able to use it, and to top it all, they change the titlebar buttons to suit left-handed people only, and rearrange the buttons.... [01:33] granted, we still have some time, but these issues will have to be resolved, or we're in big trouble at least for the next two years. [01:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/383759 [01:33] Launchpad bug 383759 in gwibber "Gwibber fails to start when GNOME has a floating point font set" [High,Fix released] [01:34] and I read sabdfls blog today... Was he drunk when he wrote that, or has he been to some halleluja design festival? [01:39] ok i need a disk maintenance tool. [01:40] meowbuntu-away, ... what kind of maintenance? [01:40] palimpsest isn't sufficient? [01:41] jo-erlend, earlier today my hdd started to click adn freeze my os. i turned it off and gave it a rest for a while. [01:41] jo i dont knwo what you are on about [01:42] meowbuntu-away, palimpsest will warn you if smart-tests present suspecious results. [01:42] meowbuntu-away: If your harddisk is making clicking noises, the only disk maintenance tool you need is dragging and dropping your important data to some other drive [01:42] meowbuntu-away, I'm trying to help you. You asked a question, I respond. [01:42] clicking noise = not good [01:43] rwws advise is a very good one, at any time. [01:43] olskolirc, he needs to pick nouveau, vesa, or nv, in that order [01:44] jo-erlend, you are saying the drive is stuffing out [01:45] rww, i know its not depends y though [01:45] meowbuntu-away, let me put it another way; since Karmic, Ubuntu runs tests on your harddisks to make sure they're in good health. If those tests fail or doesn't completely pass, or returning strange results, then you'll get a popup and a warning icon in your notification area. This will probably not work with all usb harddrives, though, as it has to support SMART. [01:45] i took hdd out and left it to cool for a while then made sure it was compleatly flat adn its working ok so far [01:46] meowbuntu-away: Regardless of what you did, it's going to fail rather soon. [01:46] meowbuntu-away, these tests are not the same as the usual filesystem tests that ubuntu and windows have run automatically for ages, mind you. They're tests to determine the physical health of your harddisk, not the partitions. [01:46] rww, i know i have been using old computers for awhile [01:46] rww, you have no grounds for saying that. [01:47] if i had the $$$ for a new one i would go get one but i dont [01:47] so i am stuck with this [01:47] CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (UP) cache 512 KB flags (sse2) clocked at 1836.497 MHz [01:47] System: Host meowbuntu-desktop Kernel 2.6.31-20-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 9.10 karmic [01:47] jo-erlend: It's making clicking noises. In my experience, that's pretty good grounds. [01:47] rww, he never said that. [01:48] meowbuntu-away, never mind your system. Is your harddrive an external usb one? [01:48] rww, then if you can give me a working computer or hdd i would be greatul [01:48] jo-erlend: 17:41:18 < meowbuntu-away> jo-erlend, earlier today my hdd started to click adn freeze my os. i turned it off and gave it a rest for a while. [01:48] no jo-erlend its not [01:48] rww, right. He never said anything about noise. He could have meant "click" as in "stops working". [01:49] meowbuntu-away, then you should run palimpsest and run a smart-test. If your disk passes, you shouldn't worry too much, I think. It's always a good idea to have backups though. [01:49] Alright. I'll leave you to your word redefinition and spending time with Palimpsest when you should be backing up, then :) [01:49] it was a click not a thump thump thump [01:50] rww, i never said i had not already done that [01:50] ok so my system started to mostly behave itself with the last update [01:50] meowbuntu-away, would you recognize the sound of your harddrive being spun down to preserve energy? [01:50] not to sure [01:51] I still have one more major problem: the boot time console driver is wrong so if I break X I get to fix it blindly [01:51] that might sound like "click, dead" if you haven't heard it before. [01:51] basically, log in as root and run setupcon w/o looking at screen [01:51] meowbuntu-away, have a look at energy saving stuffs in System > Preferences. I don't remember the english terms for it ,as I'm using a norwegian translation. [01:52] olskolirc: so .. copied xorg.conf ? [01:52] meowbuntu-away, make sure it's not set to spin down disks when inactive, or something like that. [01:52] ok ill check DasEi [01:52] thump thump = means stuffed. click click = some drives jut run noisy, wind down noise=drive is slowing down. [01:52] jo how do i find that out [01:52] ^ jo-erlend [01:53] so basically for this machine to behave at boot time or when something is broken setupcon needs to run in the initrd [01:53] Hey all. Last time I was here crimsun said there was a way to get 5.1 through manually configuring a file. Does anyone know how to do so? [01:53] meowbuntu-away, Ubuntu should run smart tests on your drive automatically, and it should warn you if there are any signs of hardware failure. You can run them automatically. Palimpsest is called something like "harddisk tools" in System > Administration. [01:54] jo-erlend, there is nothing like that in the menu [01:54] meowbuntu-away, I'd usually trust smart tests more than my own ears, even though I'm a musician. :) [01:54] :( [01:54] meowbuntu-away, you're running Ubuntu karmic|lucid? [01:55] ok DasEi he did the xorg thing [01:57] olskolirc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [01:57] jo-erlend, i would to even though i am also a musician too [01:57] System: Host meowbuntu-desktop Kernel 2.6.31-20-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 9.10 karmic [01:57] olskolirc: then sudo reboot, see if (simple) graphics working again [01:58] meowbuntu-away, for internal disks, at least sata ones, ubuntu _should_ warn you in good time before a harddisk failure. It's not bullet proof though. [01:58] how to configure console at boot time? [01:58] ok DasEi [01:58] meowbuntu-away, why are you asking here? [01:58] jo-erlend, i am naving ide disks [01:58] no answer in #ubuntu [01:58] meowbuntu-away, it's the same in lucid, though, but I think support for karmic is slightly offtopic for this channel. [01:59] ok thanks for your help though Jo [01:59] meowbuntu-away, oh, ok. I'm not sure if they support smart-tests. I'd look that up, were I you. [02:00] meowbuntu-away, in any case, backing up a disk is really, really easy.. dd if=/dev/sda of=somefile. Split the file up, and burn it to dvds or something, if you don't have a new disk available. If and when the disk fails, and you get a new one, merge the files and run the opposite command, and you'll be back up. [02:00] DasEi, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg brings him back to the bash prompt no complaints [02:01] olskolirc: again , see above [02:01] ohhhh ok sorry [02:01] jo-erlend, is ubuntu-one (or similar) good for backup [02:02] In terms of efficiency, just plain copying is more efficient. DD includes all the empty space. [02:02] meowbuntu-away, not for an entire harddisk. It's good for backing up files and such though. I use several. I make an encrypted and compressed file of a folder, then upload it to several sites. [02:03] jo-erlend, good idea incase one site crashes or goes under. [02:03] jo-erlend, what encription do you use [02:06] meowbuntu-away, in reality, I don't encrypt. I just wanted to be a good role model. :) [02:06] well jo-erlend what compression do you use then [02:07] zip or something. I don't really have a very strong preference, though bz2 is good too. [02:08] zip iz not so good on ubuntu though [02:08] if archive manager cant handle the format then the format is crap [02:09] archive manager cant do zip files [02:09] 7zip does not have a gtk theme for it [02:09] what went wrong here ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/390015/ [02:09] meowbuntu-away, it can. [02:09] /home/bugabundo/Downloads/flashcam-1.4.4/vloopback/vloopback.c: In function ‘kill_proc’: [02:10] meowbuntu-away, by default, even. [02:10] BUGabundo, delete the file if there adn redownload it [02:10] olskolirc: basic graphics back ? [02:10] meowbuntu-away: why? [02:11] no DasEi [02:11] seems ok to me [02:11] jo-erlend, NOT IN MY EXPERANCE ARCHIVE MANAGER CANT OPEN ZIP FILES [02:11] olskolirc: but did the reboot ? [02:11] he froze at the graphical login screen again DasEi and yes he rebooted [02:11] meowbuntu-away, then your experience is wrong. :> [02:11] BUGabundo, errors in the out put pointed to that beiong problem not downloaded corectly [02:12] olskolirc: ok, then we got to find out which wrong driver was installed [02:12] the newest one he said [02:12] 187 i think [02:12] BUGabundo, you posted the error [02:12] try redownload and see fi its still same [02:12] http://www.swift-tools.net/Flashcam/flashcam-1.4.4.tgz [02:12] meowbuntu-away: have a look at unp, a nasty lazy tool for all compressed [02:12] mind downloadoning and match a md5 ? [02:13] 6d0c82f7d065e8c1159bbb3b1cf18b77 flashcam-1.4.4.tgz [02:13] DasEi, its not installed [02:13] DanaG1: ok, sorry for my poor layout [02:13] DasEi, i have 7zip already [02:13] same prob meowbuntu-away [02:14] what about me? [02:14] ok make sure another process like symaptic is open. [02:14] meowbuntu-away: unp covers various formats in one cmd , just have to have had the packers installed too ( like 7zip, tar , and so on) [02:14] BUGabundo, i gtg anywwa [02:14] thanks all for helping me [02:15] dtrx is a handy extracter, also. [02:15] hello [02:15] it's possible to recver the volume control from the panel?? [02:19] TLF: add volume indicator [02:19] how? [02:20] right click the panel, press add [02:20] pick volume indicator [02:20] as always been done [02:21] what(): Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.24" (uid=1000 pid=1379 comm="./main) interface="org.bluez.Manager" member="ListAdapters" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.bluez" (uid=0 pid=1290 comm="/usr/sbin/bluetoothd)) [02:21] I don't see volume indicator, BUGabundo [02:21] that's why I'm asking [02:22] it has been renamed [02:22] its now Indicator Applet [02:24] thank you very much [02:24] :) [02:24] though I liked the slider to be vertical instead of horizontal [02:25] great, so my thing works as root, but not as my own self. === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [02:26] ah, adding myself to 'lp' group fixes it. weird. [02:41] bjsnider: around . want to pesk you with a request [02:42] yes i are [02:43] i have to stop listening to rod stewart or i'll go mad [02:43] weasel reference? ehe [02:43] I know flashcam? [02:43] http://www.swift-tools.net/Flashcam/ [02:43] trying to get it to work [02:43] what about it? [02:43] never heard of it [02:43] sicne my web cam aint detected by flash [02:44] can't make it complie [02:44] and found a PPA [02:44] https://edge.launchpad.net/~irving-popovetsky/+archive/ppa [02:44] but its terribly outdated and i386 only [02:44] 'udisks-part-id /dev/mmcblk0p1' unexpected exit with status 0x0007 [02:44] would you mind trying to get me a 64bits deb? [02:45] what did you do to try to compile it? [02:45] step by step from the page guide [02:45] terribly outdated? those packages are only 4 months old [02:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/390015/ [02:45] its pre karmic :D [02:46] and 4 releases of flashcam old [02:47] BUGabundo, the errors in that make are due to symbols being missing our outdated in dev packages. did you install the dependencies before you ran it? [02:47] which ones did I miss? [02:47] I tried to follow the guide and forum comments [02:47] all dev stuff should be here [02:48] some kernel dev package maybe? [02:48] i don't know, where are the instructions? [02:48] http://www.swift-tools.net/Flashcam/ === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [03:37] BUGabundo: the windows are sorted in order of last usage so yes, that's expected [03:38] Amaranth: I expect 3,2,1,4 etc [03:38] not 3.2.4.5....1 [03:38] which seems to be what I'm seeing [03:38] BUGabundo: ah, not sure about that [03:38] ehe [03:38] BUGabundo: the plugin sorts them in the stacking order [03:39] made you think now , ehn? [03:39] BUGabundo: so window on top is first, next down is second, etc [03:39] can you check when you have some free tiem? [03:39] I just tested [03:39] and its not doing what I expect [03:39] I know sound crazy [03:39] file a bug report upstream please [03:39] but window 1 , is in the bottom [03:39] will do [03:42] Amaranth: what the heck does apport collect for compiz-plugin?? [03:42] its on 5% using all my upload bw [03:42] huge LOG [03:42] BUGabundo: everything :) [03:42] no no [03:42] its uploading the empty sectors of my HD [03:42] BUGabundo: it pulls dmesg, xsession-errors, lspci, etc [03:42] even linux pulls that [03:42] and its smaller [03:42] xorg log, xorg conf [03:42] eh [03:43] yeah, not too much [03:43] never seen anything pull such a big log [03:43] your ISP is fail? :) [03:43] and I file a lot of bugs [03:43] no, upping at 150KB/s [03:43] 15% [03:44] ooo, awesome, an Amaranth [03:44] * BUGabundo rm's pr0n [03:44] Amaranth: my alacarte is broke :( [03:44] * BUGabundo hands duct tape to rww [03:44] woot 20% [03:45] rww: yeah I haven't worked on that in like a year [03:45] (no one has) [03:45] * BUGabundo will be marking this bug as private! [03:45] 30% [03:46] BUGabundo: sounds like it's uploading like 200MB of stuff... [03:46] maybe [03:46] BUGabundo: wait, why are you using apport anyway? [03:46] launchpad != upstream :) [03:46] 40% [03:46] no? [03:46] :( [03:46] though it was a project tehre [03:46] well now, ill just downstream link [03:46] simply to have a way to link to the upstream bugtracker [03:47] (I admin the compiz project in launchpad) [03:48] ahh [03:49] BUGabundo: http://bugs.opencompositing.org/ [03:49] thanks [03:49] 70% [03:49] almost there [03:49] 50€ as it will fail [03:49] Amaranth: what ever it is, its recent [03:50] wasn't here like 2 or 3 weeks ago [04:04] Amaranth: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/533632 sending upstream now [04:04] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/533632) [04:08] Amaranth: http://bugs.opencompositing.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1276 [04:08] bugs.opencompositing.org bug 1276 in Plugin - Shift "shift switcher has wrong stack of windows" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:08] linked [04:08] thanks Amaranth [04:08] Nifty, didn't know ubottu understood upsteam bug trackers too. [04:09] it does === rabbit is now known as rabbit1 [04:23] Hello. [04:23] Please help me kill maximus. [04:24] oh, not this again [04:24] bjsnider: My problem was never solved. [04:24] sudo apt-get purge maximus [04:24] bjsnider: You may get upset with me repeating this over and over, but please understand that I need to get this fixed. [04:24] rww: That removes UNE. [04:26] is there a boot option to not start plymoth [04:26] dns53: not that I know of [04:27] * dns53 messed up his install by trying to remove the nvidia drivers [04:29] do you know how i can mount my dm_crypt partition, i need to chroot and reinstall nvidia or something [04:29] dns53: Try recovery console. [04:30] yeah, it does not get there, it starts x and i get a black screen [04:30] i wonder if ssh is working [04:31] Maximus? Well, the only auto-maximize thingy I know is "devilspie". [04:50] so I upgraded to lucid from karmic and I don't get pretty boot splash... I get the ugly white to blue bars... something i can do to fix it? [04:51] timboy, i get the same thing [04:51] nvidia? [04:51] ddecator, yup [04:52] dang proprietary drivers! support needs to be better for them... [04:53] timboy, it's noveau, not the proprietary driver. it conflicts with plymouth [04:53] ddecator, ah. so just installing proprietary driver will fix it? [04:54] why don't proprietary drivers show up in hardware drivers window? [04:54] timboy, didn't for me, but once plymouth and nouveau get fixed more then it should work [04:55] they did for me [04:55] gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string ":minimize,maximize,close" :) [04:56] just a friendly reminder? haha [04:56] :) [04:57] I've set that command to run on startup just in case updates change it back! [04:58] good man! Now, go make some noise :) [04:58] jo-erlend, there's a poll in forums. I think it should be in the Topic! [04:58] I think if they want to change it give the option with picture on install!?! [04:59] i'd be fine with it if they just provided an option to switch it back and forth easily [04:59] needs to be in appearance [04:59] timboy, They are never going to clutter the installer with a question about window decoration. [05:00] timboy, yes, something like: «I prefer Ubuntu to be a cheap clone of: a) Windows, b) OS X»? :) [05:01] As it is right now, it's a crappy cross between the two. [05:01] it makes zero sense. [05:01] none... [05:01] And it's not even a valid "cross between the two" -- it's just a "fail". [05:01] right. [05:01] anyone else think "radiance" looks like coffee stained teeth? [05:01] C) "crappy cross between the two" [05:02] it's ugly, and try it with awesomebar in Firefox, and you'll really hate it. [05:02] I wish everyone had complained about the last few releases' themes as much as they are about this one. They might have gotten rid of the brown sooner... [05:02] rww, I just changed back to human, thank you. [05:03] i was actually hoping they would go with more orange...has more of an ubuntu feel that way [05:03] dark themes :( [05:03] human isn't a dark theme. And I really don't understand what people have against brown. === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk [05:25] Hello! Does anyone would help me solve the VirtualBox USB problem in Lucid Lynx alpha 3? [05:28] I can't use USB inside my guest host, I'm under Lucid Lynx, what should I do / check? [05:34] jiehan: Try #vbox [05:34] jimmyxu: OK, thanks. [05:40] has anyone else noticed clutter being very very slow in lucid recently....only in the past few days maybe [05:42] throughnothing, Probably a graphics driver problem. How are other 3D apps? [05:42] compiz and everything runs fine...and clutter ran fine days ago [05:42] clutter meaning gnome-shell as well as games such as gnometris and gnibbles [05:42] now all of those apps that use clutter are very very very very slow, yet compiz and such remain snappy [05:43] I don't know if clutter is the cause, but it seems either clutter, or something that clutter uses got upgraded and caused this to happen [05:45] Jordan_U, are you running a fully upgraded lucid system? If so, are gnibbles or gnometris slow for yoU? [05:45] may have to install gnome-games to get them [05:46] throughnothing, I'm not running lucid right now, sorry. [05:48] ah ok, no problem === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [06:08] i just got lucid alpha 3, what should i know before I screw it up [06:09] tweetbox, installed on your system or in vm? [06:10] on system [06:11] well, first thing, do you have nvidia? [06:11] yes [06:11] you might have it where pressing and/or 2/@ will cause X to crash and gdm to load... [06:12] together or just randomly [06:14] randomly. it usually happens right after logging on (or while trying to login) so if it didn't happen yet, you should be good... [06:15] any other huge things [06:16] not that i've come across... [06:19] thank you, nobody anywhere else is helping me [06:27] are there any working nvidia drivers for lucid? [06:32] the proprietary work fine for me. the problem is with nouveau, which conflicts with plymouth sometimes [06:35] wait, that's backwards: nouveau should do plymouth fine; nvidia binary doesn't do KMS, and thus no plymouth. [07:04] well something related to nvidia isn't working quite right with plymouth...doesn't even display for me [07:04] I just upgraded to 10.04 beta, but ubuntu is now wanting to mount USB to boot how can I change it to mount my harddrive? === ubuntu is now known as Fentas [07:05] if no usb is inserted, then it should automatically boot from hdd, but there should be a way to change it in the bios (i have to press F9 on my HP laptop for that) [07:06] it's not a boot order, Grub loads, then dies when it tries to mount the USB saying "No file system found" [07:08] Fentas, What makes you think that grub is trying to "mount the USB"? [07:09] brb, I'll grab some logs here in a second. [07:28] Every time my computer goes to sleep (suspend to ram), it wakes up, and then immediately sleeps again, but only once [07:28] it's not critically annoying, since the second sleep/wake cycly is pretty quick, but does anyone know what might be causeing this, or how I might fix it? [07:32] I'm using kubuntu, if that matters... [07:37] naught101_: My laptop had the same issue using 8.10, I didnt find a solution (but didnt search too far either) [07:39] Fentas: to be honest, I could have had the problem since 8.10. I've only just started using suspend. Haven't found any thing about it on the 'net yet though [07:41] So, anyone else notice that the new theme for gdm made the icons barely visible? [07:44] Can I get the Lucid themes in 9.10? [07:45] Probably. [07:45] One would only have to save them and send them to you. [07:45] Do you know if they have been uploaded somewhere? Or if someone would be willing to do so [07:45] ? [07:46] They're in package format. So... I donno. I've never really installed custom themes before. :P [07:47] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/new-ubuntu-1004-light-and-dark-themes.html in case anyone else was wondering. [07:48] torasuku: you can get the source here http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/adium-theme-ubuntu [07:48] torasuku: you also need the new icon pack, which isn't a dependacy for that for some reason. lemme see if i can find the package. [07:49] torasuku: oh wait thats not it. silly me. thats the empathy theme ;3 [07:49] torasuku: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/light-themes [07:49] AtomicSpark, that link I posted has a link to the icon theme as well ;] [07:49] torasuku: well there you go! [07:50]