| kwwii | zacbarton: hey, I realized that I had tried your solultion before...if you change th font size things crazy | 01:05 |
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| kwwii | things *go* crazy | 01:06 |
| kwwii | anyway, time for sleep | 01:06 |
| kwwii | night | 01:06 |
| ripps | Hey, I was wondering if any of you artists would like to give me an honest this new gtk theme I made, it's based of the new Ambiance theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=121118 | 02:47 |
| ripps | ^honest opinion | 02:47 |
| joeseph | hello | 04:19 |
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| comutamike | hi guys - I'm struggling with packaging themes for Ubuntu - do we have any guidelines or notes on how to do it ? | 16:15 |
| dashua | Getting used to these metacity buttons on the left side already after just a few days. It's a actually quite nice. | 16:15 |
| kwwii | comutamike: nothing of that sort that I know of, take a package and look at how it is done, copy that | 16:41 |
| comutamike | I tried that with the ubuntu artwork package - I tried uploading my version of that to launchpad, but it complained about the rules file - wich was't in the source. | 16:44 |
| sanderqd | kwwii: would it be possible to add some spacing between the legacy systray icons, to make it look more consistent? | 16:44 |
| kwwii | well, ubuntu-artwork is not the package you should look at, I think | 16:44 |
| kwwii | comutamike: what are you trying to package? | 16:44 |
| kwwii | sanderqd: yeah, I was thinking the same thing | 16:44 |
| kwwii | sanderqd: not sure how easily doable it is, but I will look into it | 16:45 |
| comutamike | I'm trying to package some wall papers and themes - That's what in the ubuntu artwork package | 16:45 |
| sanderqd | kwwii: it works out nicely in gnome-shell, and the spacing can become clickable so that it's easier to open their menus | 16:45 |
| comutamike | is there a better package i should use? | 16:45 |
| vish | kwwii: sanderqd: its being done in fedora , http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2009/10/26/5-little-things/ | 16:52 |
| sanderqd | yeah, was looking for their code | 16:52 |
| comutamike | kwwii: I'll try re-packaging - ubuntu-wallpapers packages... | 16:53 |
| sanderqd | kwwii, vish: mclasen's patch for fedora is here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343436 | 17:03 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 343436 in Panel "gnome-panel should allow to set margin/padding for icons on panel" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] | 17:03 |
| sanderqd | this has shipped in F12, hopefully it's not too late to include in U10.04 | 17:03 |
| thorwil | so far the only adjustment of the Artwork section of the wiki to the new situation is the removal of my Numerals page | 17:13 |
| vish | :( | 17:14 |
| thorwil | explanations of the new strategy as partly happened on Mark's blog should land in the wiki, too | 17:15 |
| thorwil | along of checking whether the message/audience stuff still makes sense | 17:16 |
| thorwil | would create a todo if only i could be bothered | 17:16 |
| thorwil | troy_s: you're much too nice and open for those commentators on reddit | 17:18 |
| troy_s | thorwil: Lol. | 17:18 |
| troy_s | thorwil: I got a warning from the forums. I was rather shocked on that front. | 17:19 |
| thorwil | troy_s: it's like a high-society gentleman trying to discuss greek philosophy with slum dwellers | 17:19 |
| troy_s | thorwil: I'm not very good with those high-society types. /me is from the slums. | 17:20 |
| thorwil | troy_s: warning on the ubuntu forums? did you raise the level of insight into critical heights? | 17:20 |
| troy_s | thorwil: Lol. No. I just tried to respond politely to what seemed to be a knee jerk comment. | 17:21 |
| thorwil | troy_s: just teasing you a bit. the contrast is there, though | 17:21 |
| thorwil | vish: just in case that isn't clear, i removed that myself | 17:22 |
| vish | thorwil: nah , i got that ;) | 17:22 |
| vish | thorwil: just today i was wondering about the numerals work you did and the revs it underwent.. | 17:30 |
| thorwil | vish: i just file that as nice training | 17:30 |
| vish | thorwil: hehe , you should get into typography ;p | 17:31 |
| thorwil | vish: what, should i get out just to reenter? ;p | 17:32 |
| vish | thorwil: lol.. i meant full-fledged | 17:32 |
| vish | hehe , noticed several comment on sabdfl's blog asking canonical to hire troy_s ;) | 17:35 |
| thorwil | yeah, i'm doing it wrong | 17:41 |
| troy_s | God that would never happen. | 17:43 |
| troy_s | Ever. | 17:43 |
| troy_s | Ugh. | 17:43 |
| troy_s | I'm well underqualified. | 17:46 |
| thorwil | i'm about 2,5 meters sideways-qualified for about everything | 17:47 |
| * thorwil leaves to move a fork to his mouth many times in succession | 17:48 | |
| thorwil | plop | 18:26 |
| knome | hello thorwil | 18:27 |
| thorwil | hi knome. how is the mouse doing? | 18:27 |
| knome | haven't moved much during the weekend | 18:28 |
| knome | will get going again on monday when the design team returns to work | 18:28 |
| knome | i've been working mostly with the new website theme | 18:28 |
| kwwii | a mouse that doesn't move much must be dead ;) | 18:28 |
| knome | which is actually doing pretty well! | 18:28 |
| knome | kwwii, it's just paralyzed by my farts | 18:29 |
| knome | ;) | 18:29 |
| kwwii | :P | 18:29 |
| dashua | kwwii, Fixed about 10 reported bugs and another 10 unreported for light-themes. | 18:46 |
| kwwii | dashua: wow, sounds good! | 18:48 |
| dashua | I subscribed you to the branch. Just let me know of any changes you need? | 18:49 |
| dashua | It's pretty easy to fix as it looks like a majority of the code is based on Dust ;) | 18:49 |
| kwwii | dashua: excellent, thanks! I'm heading out to the cinema in a bit | 18:49 |
| kwwii | dashua: indeed it is ;) | 18:49 |
| dashua | Np | 18:50 |
| dashua | Have fun :) | 18:50 |
| kwwii | I will check it out first thing tomorrow morning | 18:50 |
| kwwii | I hope to ;) you too! | 18:50 |
| dashua | Thx :) | 18:50 |
| psyke83 | dashua: just took a look at your -refresh branch - is the combobox arrow part of the widget supposed to have that strong outline? | 18:55 |
| dashua | psyke83, Actually no. I wanted it to all blend in. | 19:18 |
| psyke83 | dashua: it's caused by a combination of the border_colors and contrast engine settings for the button style (lines 129, 130... at least in Ambience) | 19:24 |
| psyke83 | commenting the lines seems to fix the problem | 19:25 |
| dashua | Ok cool. Thx. | 19:27 |
| dashua | Awesome. Works great :) | 19:29 |
| psyke83 | I'm not sure if you added the border_colors option to your refresh, or it was Ken and the other art people... but I think it slightly changes all button outlines when you comment it | 19:29 |
| psyke83 | nevertheless, I think all buttons look fine (better?) with the lines commented :) | 19:30 |
| dashua | I added the border_shades and colors for the dimensional look, but this works out better. | 19:31 |
| dashua | Seems the combo isn't honoring the shades and colors even if added to combobox. | 19:32 |
| psyke83 | well, the button style supersedes the combobox style | 19:33 |
| psyke83 | it's something like GtkWindow.*.GtkComboBox.GtkButton | 19:33 |
| dashua | psyke83, Do know any workarounds for Vino? | 19:34 |
| psyke83 | what's the problem? | 19:34 |
| dashua | It's taking the tooltip_bg color making it unreadable from the dark purple. | 19:34 |
| dashua | Open Remote Desktop | 19:34 |
| dashua | You will see it. | 19:34 |
| psyke83 | ah | 19:34 |
| psyke83 | it may be possible to add a theme override, but this is genuinely a problem with the application that should be fixed in its code | 19:35 |
| psyke83 | it would be less painful if it used the tooltip_fg_color as well | 19:36 |
| psyke83 | dashua: the eXperience gtk engine is useful for problems like this | 19:38 |
| thorwil | vish: added manual title page tests to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Artwork (look for 2010-03-07 a to e) | 19:38 |
| psyke83 | dashua: I'm checking it now, but here's instructions for reference: http://ebm.pastebin.com/9sYVCptP | 19:39 |
| dashua | Yeah, the only I could only come up with lightening the tooltip_bg but that takes away from the projected look. | 19:40 |
| dashua | Nice, Let me check that out | 19:40 |
| psyke83 | dashua: 'Classpath: GtkDialog.GtkVBox.GtkVBox.GtkVBox.GtkHBox.GtkEventBox.VinoMessageBox : "tooltip"' | 19:41 |
| psyke83 | so you can add a "*VinoMessageBox*" override, perhaps | 19:42 |
| dashua | Let me try it. | 19:42 |
| vish | thorwil: > #u-manual | 19:42 |
| psyke83 | dashua, this works: widget "*VinoMessageBox*" style:highest "murrine-tooltip2" | 19:48 |
| dashua | Ha cool | 19:48 |
| dashua | Just tried this style "vino_bg" | 19:49 |
| dashua | { | 19:49 |
| dashua | fg[NORMAL] = @bg_color | 19:49 |
| dashua | } | 19:49 |
| dashua | widget_class "*VinoMessageBox*" style "vino_bg" | 19:49 |
| psyke83 | however, I can't make it change the tooltip_bg_color, only the tooltip_fg_color (so you can make the text white, for example) | 19:49 |
| dashua | And the text is readable now | 19:49 |
| psyke83 | right... it's odd that the bg can't be changed | 19:49 |
| psyke83 | perhaps it's drawn by a different class | 19:49 |
| dashua | Yeah | 19:50 |
| psyke83 | it still doesn't look perfect (the progress ring is still in black, and is barely visible) | 19:51 |
| dashua | psyke83, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/45705/screenshot_011_YCVGYy.png | 19:55 |
| dashua | Not so good. | 19:55 |
| psyke83 | just a sec | 19:55 |
| psyke83 | dashua: it's better to patch vino, gimme a min | 20:01 |
| psyke83 | dashua: is a bug for this issue filed yet? | 20:03 |
| dashua | Yeah | 20:04 |
| dashua | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/533520 | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 533520 in light-themes "Unreadable hint in Remote Desktop Preferences" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:05 |
| psyke83 | ok, I've modified the source and it now works fine | 20:12 |
| psyke83 | however, I merely removed the code telling to use the tooltip_bg_color | 20:12 |
| psyke83 | if I add code to make sure it uses the tooltip_fg_color, it may still look ugly | 20:12 |
| dashua | Nice | 20:13 |
| dashua | psyke83, pushed those border fixes for the combobox | 20:28 |
| dashua | Thx | 20:28 |
| psyke83 | no prob | 20:28 |
| dashua | So vino just has to be patched for this to work correctly? | 20:30 |
| psyke83 | dashua: the style override in the gtkrc is messy | 20:36 |
| psyke83 | I've attached a patch that removes the usage of the tooltip style | 20:37 |
| psyke83 | result: http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1820/screenshotremotedesktop.png | 20:37 |
| psyke83 | (that's not the ambience theme, but uses the same tooltip colours) | 20:38 |
| dashua | Ah nice | 20:39 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/45711/screenshot_012_0RPG9D.png | 20:47 |
| dashua | Works good psyke83 | 20:47 |
| psyke83 | considering the issue with that spinner not being visible when the tooltip bg is used, it's better that way IMHO | 20:48 |
| dashua | Definitely | 20:49 |
| kwwii | I am amazed that nobody picked up on the fact that the font is being created by one of the leading fontographers | 23:49 |
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