[00:00] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I have already shut down the screensaver
[00:00] <robinking623> charlie-tca: not after suspend
[00:00] <charlie-tca> I am running out of ideas here.
[00:00] <robinking623> charlie-tca: that is a laptop. celeron 2g 512mb, with intel 815
[00:00] <charlie-tca> Is it usb mouse?
[00:01] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I am using "noapic" after the kernel
[00:01] <robinking623> charlie-tca: usb mouse and usb keyboard
[00:01] <charlie-tca> That shouldn't freeze it, I don't think
[00:02] <charlie-tca> If the memory test doesn't show anything wrong, file a bug using 'linux' as the package. you can file it with 'ubuntu-bug linux' in a terminal
[00:03] <charlie-tca> Add to the report that it freezes keyboard and mouse at random times, with the exception of the mouse movement.
[00:03] <robinking623> charlie-tca: and I am using a pcmcia card to extend the usb2.0 port. but at the beginning I thought that caused the crashdown. so I plug it out, just with the usb-hub. but after that xfce still crashed
[00:03] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu is it?
[00:04] <robinking623> charlie-tca: xubuntu 910. with 2.6.31-20-generic
[00:04] <robinking623> charlie-tca: but I am not the only one who has that problem
[00:05] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I will show you the url
[00:05] <charlie-tca> You aren't having the problem?
[00:07] <charlie-tca> Okay, what url?
[00:07] <robinking623> charlie-tca: yes I have the same
[00:07] <charlie-tca> read it wrong.
[00:07] <robinking623> charlie-tca: but I am not the only one
[00:08] <charlie-tca> Did you have the problem before the -20 kernel?
[00:09] <robinking623> charlie-tca: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386883
[00:10] <charlie-tca> Did you install LXDE, too?
[00:10] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I can not say. because I was running windows on this laptop. I just used it to watch dvb-t
[00:10] <robinking623> charlie-tca: no. just xubuntu without modify
[00:10] <charlie-tca> Well, that says you fixed your issue?
[00:11] <robinking623> charlie-tca: just press "f5"
[00:12] <robinking623> charlie-tca: Re: Xubuntu randomly crashes, mouse still responds--sorry, i was  wrong. it still crashed down. help!!!!
[00:12] <robinking623> charlie-tca: so I thought maybe a bug with xorg or something
[00:12] <charlie-tca> You have two different things there. The first person is crashing firefox after installing Lxde.
[00:13] <charlie-tca> You said you crash random times, and the applications don't matter.
[00:13] <charlie-tca> I would file a bug against the kernel.
[00:13] <robinking623> charlie-tca: Installation went smooth. Restart. Log on, start Firefox, close it, wait a few seconds, crash
[00:14] <charlie-tca> Is it only after running firefox?
[00:14] <robinking623> charlie-tca: right
[00:14] <charlie-tca> Then remove your extensions and restart the computer. Then see if it crashes. If it does, you need to try a new profile for firefox
[00:15] <robinking623> charlie-tca: and I feel really weird that the xorg crashed down, but the mouse can still move and harddisk run sometimes.
[00:15] <charlie-tca> firefox does that
[00:16] <robinking623> charlie-tca: but last time, I just want to click the icon of firefox, it crashed down
[00:16] <charlie-tca> Remove any extensions and plugins for firefox (you can try disabling them), but you have to restart the computer, not just log off
[00:16] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I "wanted" to but I did not have the chance
[00:17] <charlie-tca> It could still be firefox doing something stupid, right?
[00:17] <robinking623> charlie-tca: you re right, but one time I just type something in the cli. it crashed down
[00:18] <charlie-tca> try it. Then ask here again if it still crashes.
[00:19] <robinking623> charlie-tca: ok
[00:19] <robinking623> charlie-tca: I will just remove the firefox and use opera or chrome
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Try epiphany, maybe?
[00:20] <charlie-tca> My eyes are blurring and I have to go rest them, now. Good luck.
[00:21] <robinking623> ok, see you good night
[00:21] <Kangarooo> robinking623: use chrome. its fast all the time.
[00:21] <robinking623> Kangarooo: already
[00:21] <Kangarooo> opera gets later bloated. maybe couse of saving all cache
[00:25]  * robinking623 running memtest
[00:25] <Kangarooo> robinking623: does slider in firefox worked?
[00:25] <robinking623> Kangarooo: slider?
[00:26] <Kangarooo> can u get it active when in far right side? yes slider if page is bigger then screen
[00:27] <robinking623> Kangarooo: or you mean coolpreviews?
[00:27] <Kangarooo> slider. scroller.
[00:28] <Kangarooo> maybe im saying it wrong in english
[00:28] <robinking623> Kangarooo: is that a plugins? or Add-on?
[00:29] <Kangarooo> you see this chat has text more then screen can show so theres slider to the right. with moving it u can see previous chat posts.
[00:29] <Kangarooo> isnt that called slider?
[00:30] <robinking623> Kangarooo: ok. you mean the slider of firefox?
[00:30] <robinking623> Kangarooo: and you asked if the slider of my firefox works?
[00:30] <robinking623> Kangarooo: it works
[00:30] <Kangarooo> well the same kind thingy in firefox if u have bigger page then u see the slider. so question: can u get it active with mouse clicking it to far right side?
[00:30] <robinking623> Kangarooo: without problem
[00:31] <Kangarooo> .. got some pidgin error.
[00:32] <Kangarooo> ok so u have xubuntu ? default theme?
[00:32] <robinking623> Kangarooo: right
[00:32] <robinking623> Kangarooo: I have ubuntu and xubuntu
[00:33] <robinking623> Kangarooo: and I have really big problem with my xubuntu laptop
[00:33] <robinking623> Kangarooo: 2 laptops
[00:33] <Kangarooo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/530034 this bug u dont have?
[00:35] <robinking623> Kangarooo: sorry I am using firefox 3.6
[00:35] <robinking623> Kangarooo: and I don't have that problem
[00:35] <Kangarooo> how u got 3.6 in xubuntu? 10.04xubuntu ?
[00:36] <robinking623> Kangarooo: ubuntu-tweak
[00:36] <Kangarooo> i have 9.10 latest updates and 3.5.8
[00:36] <robinking623> Kangarooo: you just need the ppa with firefox 3.6 and
[00:36] <robinking623> Kangarooo: I know
[00:36] <Kangarooo> wow. ok then ill try that and report that bug is removed
[00:36] <robinking623> Kangarooo: ok
[00:37] <Kangarooo> or u can also write if realy that bug is not working for u
[00:38] <Kangarooo> hp problems?
[00:40] <robinking623> Kangarooo: I am busy debuging my old laptop
[00:40] <robinking623> Kangarooo: it crashed down randomly
[00:40] <Kangarooo> ok. but ubuntu tweak u hav on xubuntu?
[00:41] <robinking623> Kangarooo: yes
[00:41] <Kangarooo> ok im going to sleep also
[00:42] <robinking623> Kangarooo: xubuntu = xfce + ubuntu - gnome
[00:42] <robinking623> Kangarooo: me too. good night
[00:44] <Kangarooo> ah robinking623 its not in synaptic so u took it from website?
[00:45] <robinking623> Kangarooo: right
[01:56] <raevol> hey guys
[01:56] <raevol> i set my laptop to a display resoltuoin that isn't supported while i was trying to get an external display to work
[01:56] <raevol> now nothing displays on the screen after i log in
[01:56] <raevol> i can't find the config file where the resolution is stored
[01:56] <raevol> how do i fix this
[01:57] <raevol> ok it seems to have fixed itself
[01:57] <raevol> so is there any way to get support for external displays using the display manager in xfce?
[02:36] <m0ar> I can't use alt+1 for the serverwindow in irssi when using xfce4-terminal :s
[02:36] <m0ar> Very wierd, but /window 1 works
[02:36] <m0ar> Same to alt+2,3,4 and so on
[09:11] <robinking623> hello everyone, I still have the problem with xfce
[09:13] <robinking623> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8927548#post8927548
[09:30] <Sysi> you could try to add acpi=off to kernel parameters
[09:30] <Sysi> !grub2
[09:31] <Sysi> gksudo nano /etc/default/grub ; for a start
[09:37] <robinking623> Sysi: already, doesnot work
[09:37] <Sysi> hum
[09:40] <robinking623> Sysi: but I am sure the kernel is still working
[09:40] <robinking623> Sysi: but the xorg is crashed down
[09:41] <robinking623> Sysi: and it takes my usb keyboard away.
[09:43] <robinking623> just brb
[09:43] <Sysi> i had same proble with propably same intel graphics card, it worked with acpi=off
[09:47] <robinking623> Sysi: any other ideas?
[09:48] <Sysi> i had same proble with propably same intel graphics card, it worked with acpi=off
[09:49] <pdg1> hello hello?
[09:49] <Sysi> and with centos ir works straight after installation, old distro with old computer clearly..
[09:49] <Sysi> hell pdg1
[09:49] <robinking623> Sysi: no, you did not get my meaning. xfce works already, but it crashed sometimes down. then I have no chance to repair it
[09:49] <Sysi> *hello :D
[09:50] <Sysi> robinking623: maybe itäs my english, but i don't get whatäs your problem
[09:50] <robinking623> Sysi: I have only a usb keyboard
[09:50] <pdg1> is it just me, or does Karmic run a little slower on oldeer hardware than Hardy
[09:51] <robinking623> Sysi: but under windows xp, it works without problem
[09:53] <Sysi> do you mean that your usb keyboard don't work?
[09:54] <robinking623> Sysi: after the xorg crashed down
[09:54] <robinking623> Sysi: no I mean the laptop
[09:55] <robinking623> Sysi: xfce works without problem with all my hardware. just still the xorg crashed
[09:55] <robinking623> Sysi: and it crashes down without telling me before..........
[09:56] <robinking623> Sysi: while the kernel it is still working
[09:56] <Sysi> robinking623: ...
[09:56] <Sysi> so you can gt to virtual terminal after xorg has crashed?
[09:57] <Sysi> why typing is so hard now..
[09:57] <robinking623> Sysi: you mean the tty, no I have no keyboard
[09:57] <robinking623> Sysi: so that is the point
[09:58] <Sysi> when that happened to me, i couldn't restart xorg even trough ssh
[09:58] <Sysi> so it was just about crashing
[09:59] <Sysi> that acpi=off fixed it but xorg took a lot of cpu power after that
[09:59] <robinking623> Sysi: I think I should change the version of xorg or intel driver
[09:59] <robinking623> Sysi: but acpi works but I need "noapic"
[09:59] <Sysi> you can add that too
[10:00] <robinking623> Sysi: I tried, it crashes also
[10:00] <Sysi> sounds difficult case
[10:00] <robinking623> Sysi: so I don't think that it the problem with acpi
[10:00] <robinking623> Sysi: really
[10:00] <Sysi> robinking623: but always worth a try
[10:01] <Sysi> have you tried older ubuntu release?
[10:01] <robinking623> Sysi: already but I 'd like to change the new version
[10:02] <robinking623> Sysi: because it works always without problem after boot for more than I hour
[10:02] <robinking623> Sysi: I will try to change the xorg
[10:02] <Sysi> robinking623: why do you want new version if it's crashing? :P
[10:03] <robinking623> Sysi: because it is just the point of xorg, not other things
[10:03] <robinking623> Sysi: now I am using the new kernel of ubuntu. it works after xorg crashed
[10:04] <Sysi> robinking623: i don't give this as proper advice but i use to say "don't fix it if it's working"
[10:04] <robinking623> Sysi: I just start to cp 50G files from one partition to another, it does still now
[10:05] <robinking623> Sysi: or I will try to use another distro
[10:05] <robinking623> Sysi: arch maybe
[10:05] <Sysi> btw, you don't need to hilight me everytime
[10:06] <Sysi> robinking623: that's not real linux solution, but that's what i did :D
[10:07] <Sysi> my old laptop now works like a charm with centos, i'd just like to test some bsd on it
[10:07] <robinking623> Sysi: but thank you anyway, I will continue googling
[10:08] <robinking623> Sysi: bsd works, I just have a friend who is using freebsd with his 2 laptop
[10:08] <robinking623> s
[10:08] <robinking623> Sysi: they are working properly
[10:09] <Sysi> i'm trying to consider, pcbsd or freebsd
[10:09] <Sysi> my friend has openbsd and he says it's a bit funny
[10:10] <robinking623> Sysi: why?
[10:10] <Sysi> se said it's designed to shell-server or something
[10:12] <robinking623> Sysi: that is right but you can running xorg on it and with desktop enviroment
[10:13] <Sysi> i know
[10:13] <Sysi> i use centos, everyone say that it's ment for servers
[10:13] <robinking623> Sysi: right, centos is just like rhel
[10:14] <Sysi> same source compiled with same settings
[11:36] <p0a> Hello when I boot my comp my monitor goes into 'power saving mode'
[11:36] <p0a> I bought a new monitor but I get the same problem
[11:36] <p0a> What would the problem be?
[11:37] <TheSheep> one possibility would be that the resolution is out of the monitor's range
[11:38] <p0a> It didnq't happen before
[11:38] <p0a> and I didn't mess with anything software-wise
[11:38] <TheSheep> does switching to text mode with alt+ctrl+1 help?
[11:38] <TheSheep> when did it start?
[11:39] <p0a> some days ago
[11:39] <p0a> it happened, then the next day it was fine and i assumed it was something temp
[11:39] <p0a> but now it wont work again
[11:40] <p0a> I dont think text mode has to do anything with it, it doesn't even show GRUB menu or BIOS stuff...
[11:40] <p0a> it goes into power saving mode as soon as I boot the comp
[11:41] <hatake_kakashi> I reckon its acpi issue, rare on desktops though
[11:42] <p0a> what's the remedy?
[11:42] <hatake_kakashi> might need to manually append that at boot
[11:44] <p0a> what do you mean? how would I do anything without a monitor
[11:44] <hatake_kakashi> you don't even get grub menu? something like press Esc to view menu?
[11:45] <p0a> nothing
[11:45] <p0a> as soon the comp fires up the monitor does it
[11:45] <hatake_kakashi> so you see BIOS and all but you can't see the hidden grub menu?
[11:45] <p0a> I dont think its xubuntu related, apologies for asking here but I dont know a more apt channel
[11:45] <p0a> not even bios
[11:46] <hatake_kakashi> its a hardware related issue, and you tried asking in ##hardware ?
[11:47] <p0a> ok i will
[12:47] <dzordz> how can i in xubuntu open keyring manager to disable asking for paswword?
[12:47] <dzordz> for wifi
[12:50] <jjdavis699> hi
[12:50] <jjdavis699> i need help
[12:52] <jjdavis699> how do you enable effects
[12:52] <saml> hey does normal ubuntu packages work on xubuntu?
[12:53] <dzordz> saml, yes
[12:53] <rww> saml: yeah
[12:53] <saml> dzordz: thanks!
[12:53] <saml> do I need to reinstall things when newer version comes out?  upgrade instructions look hectic for normal users
[12:54] <saml> i mean newer OS version like 9.10
[12:55] <dzordz> 9.10 is already out
[12:55] <dzordz> 10.04 will bee after 1month
[12:56] <Sysi> no, everything is upgraded at the release upgrade
[12:56] <Sysi> no need to any reinstalls
[12:58] <Sysi> for me upgrading seems easy, just run one command or use update manager
[17:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello subspider  :-)
[17:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello ubottu :-)
[17:55] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sachse_Siechtum,  how you doin? :-)
[17:55] <subspider> sorry i as not here
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah no problem
[17:56] <subspider> i'm doing fine and you??
[17:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm great...just eating some salami toasts :-)
[18:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> Damn snow...
[18:36] <robinking623> Sysi: i have already solved problem
[18:36] <robinking623> Sysi: now i am using 804. and X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90
[18:36] <Sysi> good that it's working
[18:37] <robinking623> Sysi: i think the driver in Xorg should be the reason
[18:37] <Sysi> propably so
[18:38] <robinking623> Sysi: that is the only difference
[18:38] <robinking623> Sysi: kernel maybe also
[18:40] <faron> hey ! you guys r talkin about xorg ! I had a question about that pro.........I was thinking about uninstalling that but I'm wondering what would happen if I did that ?
[18:40] <faron> Now,be informed...I am not a very comp literate person
[18:42] <faron> xorg sounds like it might be a kind of important pro but synaptic says that it is "optional"
[18:42] <Sysi> faron: if you use graphical stuff you need xorg
[18:42] <Sysi> if only command line, you don't
[18:42] <faron> I  was thinking about uninstalling it bue to it's memory use aha !
[18:43] <faron> So,someone like me who really doesn't know much aboput comps shouild probably leave that one alone huh ?
[18:43] <faron> bue=due
[18:44] <knome> probably :P
[18:44] <faron> hey there knome ! how r ya taday ?
[18:44] <knome> i'm fine
[18:45] <faron> nice ta see ya
[18:45] <knome> you too
[18:45] <faron> hey knome ?
[18:45] <knome> faron, yeah?
[18:46] <faron> can I ask you a couple of questions about pidgin ?
[18:46] <knome> sure, but i don't know if i'm able to answer them
[18:47] <faron> cool.....#1 why when I join a chat am I not auto switched to that chat tab ?
[18:47] <knome> no idea.
[18:47] <faron> I can't seem to find a setting for that
[18:47] <knome> hmm
[18:47] <knome> then it's maybe a "feature"
[18:47] <faron> hmmm is right...okay...how about this one...
[18:48] <faron> what does it mean when pidgin times you out & you go to your buddy list & click on "reconnect",but you just sit there staring at this message forever informing you  "connecting"  ??
[18:49] <faron> pidgin will not "reconnect me unless I close the entire pro down & reopen it
[18:49] <knome> probably does have something to do with bad connections to irc servers
[18:51] <faron> It's works great until it times me out.But,it just won't allow me to use those "reconnect" buttons for soem reason
[18:53] <faron> hey knome ?
[18:54] <faron> when you said "feature" did you mean that that is probably like an extra ? you know...like an add on ?
[18:55] <faron> it seems like that would be like a default
[18:58] <knome> faron, no
[18:59] <knome> faron, i meant that maybe it is supposed to be so
[19:35] <mtrg> Hi, how to change language input?
[19:46] <mtrg> Oh, this is sad
[19:47] <knome> what is?
[19:47] <mtrg> knome: need to change my language input
[19:48] <knome> mtrg, see settings -> keyboard -> tab layout
[19:48] <mtrg> knome: but that's manual, isn't it?
[19:48] <mtrg> knome: , i need to automate it by alt+shift
[19:48] <knome> mtrg, do you need a fairy to change the layout?
[19:49] <mtrg> yeah, i change it alot
[19:49] <knome> mtrg, you probably need some kind of script which you then bind to alt+shift
[19:49] <mtrg> but one more issue. Ctrl^C doesn't work with my keyboard layout
[19:50] <mtrg> it works with US, but not with my language
[19:50] <mtrg> ah forget about it, i solved the Ctrl+C
[19:50] <mtrg> knome: which command should I use to change keyboard layout within xfce?
[19:51] <mtrg> knome: keyboard app has a sectionf or shortcuts. thinking to place it there.
[19:53] <knome> mtrg, yes, you need to put it there. i don't know what the command is for changing layout real-time, sorry.
[19:53] <mtrg> knome: setxkbmap?
[19:54] <knome> mtrg, probably.
[20:03] <mtrg> How to disable sessions from being saved. I want to start a fresh session every time
[20:03] <mtrg> should I untick on "launch gnome services on startup"?
[20:05] <knome> mtrg, check the logout dialog.
[20:05] <mtrg> knome: you mean untick?
[20:06] <knome> mtrg, no, click the quit button and see the logout dialog which appears.
[20:06] <mtrg> what's there?
[20:06] <mtrg> there is a tick box on "Save session" -- should i untick it?
[20:07] <knome> mtrg, yes, if you want to start with a clean session.
[20:07] <mtrg> knome: but everytime, that tick box is there. i have to remove it everytime?
[20:07] <knome> mtrg, it should not be.
[20:07] <mtrg> knome: how to delete previous sessions?
[20:07] <knome> mtrg, if you untick it, it should keep unticked.
[20:07] <knome> mtrg, see settings -> session and startup
[20:08] <mtrg> then?
[20:08] <knome> mtrg, do you need step-by-step instructions?
[20:09] <mtrg> knome: no, but i can't find anything there that allows me to delete my sessions
[20:09] <knome> mtrg, you only have *one session*
[20:09] <knome> mtrg, which is launched every time.
[20:09] <knome> mtrg, if you save the session for future logins, it overrides the old ont.
[20:09] <knome> *one
[20:09] <mtrg> knome: but i get a drop-down menu for sessions, guess it allows me to choose sessions
[20:09] <knome> mtrg, which xubuntu version you are using?
[20:10] <mtrg> knome: 9.10
[20:10] <knome> mtrg, okay, then the sessions you mean is a different thing.
[20:10] <knome> mtrg, they allow you to run gnome or even kde
[20:10] <knome> mtrg, they have nothing to do with xfce sessions
[20:12] <mtrg> ok
[20:12] <mtrg> knome: any idea how xfce4-keyboard-setting changes the layout neatly?
[20:13] <mtrg> i want to place it in a shortcut, or write an application to do so
[20:13] <knome> mtrg, as i said, you probably should write a script for that
[20:13] <mtrg> but that script needs to call soemthing. at least an api
[20:13] <knome> mtrg, which invokes setxkbmap (?) or some other app to change the layout
[20:14] <knome> mtrg, or you can run setxkbmap directly, but then i suppose you'd have to create one shortcut per layout
[20:15] <mtrg> right. but that has another weird issue.
[20:15] <mtrg> I can't do Ctrl^C shortcuts with the other layout
[20:15] <mtrg> but when I change it with the GUI, i can still Ctrl^C
[20:15] <mtrg> setxkbmap us <-- this is the command i use
[20:15] <mtrg> but instead of us, my layout
[20:16] <mtrg> such as, setxkbmap fr
[20:17] <knome> mtrg, when you are at the other layout, add a new keyboard shortcut again for the command
[20:21] <mtrg> knome: where can i find xorg.conf?
[20:22] <knome> mtrg, you shouldn't poke xorg.conf if you don't know what you are doing, but it's at /etc/X11/xorg.conf - it also might be empty.
[20:23] <mtrg> knome: doesn't exist in that name
[20:23] <mtrg> knome: I want to add an option to toggle layouts
[20:23] <knome> mtrg, the new ubuntu tries to get away from xorg.conf.
[20:23] <mtrg> where is it then..
[20:23] <knome> mtrg, you can create that file, if you DEFINITELY want to hassle with xorg.conf
[20:24] <knome> mtrg, it either is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (note the uppercase X), or it doesn't exist.
[20:24] <mtrg> yeah, uppercase, not there
[20:24] <mtrg> wondering how does xfce4-keyboard-settings already switches keyboard layout
[20:25] <knome> mtrg, if it doesn't exist, and you still want to use one, feel free to create one.
[20:30] <mtrg> knome: I found a neat solution..
[20:30] <knome> mtrg, good to hear
[20:30] <mtrg> knome: configured layouts using xfce4-keyboard-settings the normal way
[20:31] <mtrg> knome: just executed this at shell: setxkbmap -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[20:31] <knome> mtrg, okay :)
[20:31] <mtrg> knome:  it's sad why doesn't xcfe-keybaord-settings doesn't automatically push options field
[20:32] <knome> the xfce developers try to keep the options visible to minimum
[20:32] <knome> so the layout stays simple/clean
[20:33] <mtrg> wondeering where it saves language settings. i'd better edit it
[20:33] <mtrg> doesn't look neat enough to run a service that pushes -options "" everytime
[21:22] <mtrg> Xubuntu ROCKS -- all issues solved :)
[21:23] <mtrg> Thanks everyone for their efforts in making such great operating system
[21:27] <DerHorst> mtrg: I try xubuntu since today
[21:27] <DerHorst> First look is great, I hope that I am as happy as you in a few days =)
[21:28] <DerHorst> but enough for today
[21:28] <DerHorst> ciao
[21:48] <Kangarooo> how can i start keyring manager in xubuntu?
[22:10] <mintrepublic> hi guys
[22:10] <mintrepublic> i'm having some trouble installing xubuntu
[22:11] <mintrepublic> i have an old hp from 2004 with an AMD Athlon 64 3400+ and a gig of ram
[22:12] <mintrepublic> i burned the x64 iso to a cd and booted to it
[22:12] <mintrepublic> the screen came up, but no matter what i select- install, livecd option, ram check, they all do the same thing
[22:13] <mintrepublic> takes me to a black screen with a dog icon in the middle, then just black
[22:13] <mintrepublic> i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong
[22:16] <likemindead> Ha... it's a mouse, not a dog.
[22:16] <likemindead> Other than that, I'm not sure I can help, though. Sorry.
[22:16] <likemindead> I've always gone with 32-bit. :-\
[22:19] <faron> likemindead does that name have anything to do with being "Gratefully" minded ?? {Heh,heh}
[22:19] <mintrepublic> haha, my monitor is a tv screen, so i couldn't see that well
[22:19] <mintrepublic> i might try the alternate install next
[22:20] <likemindead> I don't follow, faron.
[22:21] <faron> nevermind then...sort of a Grateful Dead issue
[22:21] <Sysi> mintrepublic: how long you've waited with black screen?
[22:21] <faron> thought you might be a fellow follower4
[22:21] <faron> follower {no4}
[22:22] <mintrepublic> i just left it on in the living room, so about 15-20 minutes
[22:32] <likemindead> mintrepublic, 9.10 or 10.04 or ...?
[22:32] <mintrepublic> oh sorry, 9.10
[22:33] <mintrepublic> 9.10 desktop amd64, to be exact
[22:48] <Kangarooo> mintrepublic: i had once a problem with installing xubuntu 9.10 and none of options worked then i cleaned cd as i saw it was with fat from food :) still didnt work then i rewrited (it was rewritablecd) and then i installed with it 3 comps
[22:48] <Kangarooo> maybe oyur cd has butter on it? :)
[22:49] <Kangarooo> breathe on it and then clean in clothe.. ;)
[22:49] <Kangarooo> likemindead: one my friend thought it was a bear :)
[22:53] <mintrepublic> I doubt it has butter or anything else on it since I just took it out of the spindle...
[23:49] <networkr> can anyone help me in editing my menu in Xubuntu Karmic?
[23:49] <networkr> I just loaded spicebird and that doesn't populate menu since it' just a tarball
[23:53] <networkr> all these people logged in and nobody can help me with editing my menu?????