[00:01] <shamwow> BluesKaj, i have KpackageKit and it doesn't find the file I put in
[00:05] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, enable all your sources in kpackagekit
[00:07] <shamwow> ok did that
[00:08] <shamwow> still can't find the file
[00:08] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, now we"re going to use the kpkge version of wicd , so type wicd in the searchbar
[00:10] <shamwow> nothing
[00:12] <BluesKaj-Laptop> then you haven't enabled all the repositories /sources
[00:12] <BluesKaj-Laptop> !repositories
[00:24] <alesan> hi what is an automatic backup system
[00:24] <alesan> somethng that when I go at the office it connects to a server and copies all my shit there
[00:24] <alesan> well, does a "smart" copy, not everything everytime
[00:25] <BluesKaj-Laptop> !language | alesan
[00:25] <alesan> but I do not need archives, only last version, in case my laptop breaks/gets stolen etc
[00:25] <alesan> family friendly :)
[00:25] <alesan> any suggestion?
[00:27] <shamwow> blues, I can not install via pkg because I do not have internet connectivity... i have downloaded the wicd-1.7.0.tar.gz file and copied it to my home folder... from here i extracted it to the wicd-1.7.0 folder
[00:28] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok, then we open a terminal
[00:31] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, copy the name of the file from properties , and make it executable at the same time
[00:31] <BluesKaj-Laptop> wicd that is
[00:34] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ,shamwow, does the name of the file look like this, wicd-1.7.0.tar.bz2 /
[00:41] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow , we need to know exactly where the wicd file is located so we can extract and install it .
[00:44] <huston> where is a good tutorial on the broadcom wireless cards... one for dumbies.....
[00:44] <Typos_King> tutorial for a broadcomm card?  hehe
[00:45] <Typos_King> huston:   are you trying to make one? is that it :P
[00:45] <huston> nope have one in this laptop
[00:45] <Typos_King> and you need blueprints of circuitry
[00:45] <BluesKaj-Laptop> most broadcoms are supported huston
[00:45] <Typos_King> soooooo
[00:45] <huston> and I can't get it to vunction
[00:45] <huston> function
[00:45] <Typos_King> huston:   what.... kubuntu version are you using?
[00:45] <huston> 9.10
[00:45] <Typos_King> ...   gimme one sec
[00:46] <huston> alright
[00:47] <huston> I have the b43-fwcutter installed
[00:47] <huston> I am getting tired of have a usb wireless device sticking out of the side of my laptop
[00:48] <Typos_King> heh
[00:49] <huston> I found the page on the b43, and the b43 legacy
[00:49] <huston> and I must be missing something
[00:50] <huston> something simple probably
[00:51] <Typos_King> ...   gimme one sec
[00:51] <huston> okay
[00:53] <orpras> Can anyone tell me how to get ubuntuone to connect in kubuntu?
[00:54] <orpras> It installs and I can see the icon but it doesn't connect, I have found no solution using google.
[00:55] <Typos_King> huston:   http://imsky.org/t/10660543024.html
[00:55] <Jaimie> anyone know a good config to run rde4 on a slower machine a little more smoothly?
[00:55] <Typos_King> sorry it took me a bit heheh
[00:56] <Typos_King> Jaimie:     .... how slow of a cpu?
[00:56] <|sysop|> I am running it pretty well on a ppc 1.2ghz
[00:56] <huston> thanks
[00:57] <huston> I am going to go give it a try
[00:57] <|sysop|> just turn off all desktop effects
[00:57] <|sysop|> thats the way I would run it on my eee pc
[00:57] <Typos_King> huston:   9.1 comes with the driver, the firmware however is excluded from it due to license issues, thus, all that does is add it
[00:58] <huston> okay
[00:59] <orpras> Fixed it, had to install gnome keyring
[00:59] <Jaimie> 800mhz
[00:59] <Typos_King> the wha?
[00:59] <Jaimie> eeepc 901a
[01:00] <Typos_King> Jaime    ....   well, turn off all effects.... or run another lighter window manager
[01:00] <Typos_King> something like openbox or fluxbox
[01:01] <|sysop|> kde4 with all the effects runs ok on a eee
[01:01] <Typos_King> on a pIII?
[01:01] <|sysop|> although it wouldnt hurt to overlock your eee.
[01:02] <Jaimie> i had it @ 900
[01:02] <Jaimie> didnt see the difference
[01:02] <|sysop|> but I had 1 gig of ram.
[01:02] <Jaimie> i also have 1G
[01:02] <Typos_King> .... and how much in the videocard?   16mbs?
[01:02] <Zeelot3k> does anyone know of a file browser that lets me double click to expand a folder instead of moving into it? any file browser with that option would be great
[01:02] <|sysop|> is it slow for you? admititedly I ram 9.04 on it. I havent run a recent release on it.
[01:02] <Jaimie> just feels a little sliggy when i compare it to gnome or xfce
[01:02] <Jaimie> sluggy*
[01:03] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:    konqueror can do that, in 'tree' mode
[01:03] <|sysop|> I will upgrade my eee and check it out next time I am off. I need to reload my other laptop anyway.
[01:03] <Zeelot3k> Typos_King: it still moves in when I double click though
[01:03] <Typos_King> Jaime    kde wm, has I think more effects than gnome or xfce.... use a lighter manager, I do :)
[01:04] <huston> going to go try it out
[01:04] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:   moves?  where?   to the right expanded?
[01:04] <huston> I followed the page
[01:04] <Typos_King> k
[01:04] <huston> lets see what happens
[01:04] <huston> thanks again
[01:04] <huston> time to restart
[01:04] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:04] <huston> I will let you know
[01:04] <Zeelot3k> Typos_King: it goes into the dir instead of expanding it
[01:04] <|sysop|> Jaimie, try 9.04 on it. its old but generally works ok.
[01:04] <Typos_King> huston     this isn't twitter you know :P
[01:04] <Jaimie> i'll look into it sysop
[01:05] <huston> alright
[01:05] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:     it doesn't in the 'tree' mode
[01:05] <pulaski> Hi, I'm running karmic koala and I'm following instructions to set up various multimedia functions.  To do so I have to enable the Multiverse and Universe repositories. I've found instructions to do so for Hardy.  May I simply substitue the name karmic for hardy in the lines I need to add to sources.list?
[01:05] <Zeelot3k> Typos_King: how do you set it to tree mode? I see no such thing
[01:05] <Typos_King> zeelot:    konqueror has about..... 3 different view modes
[01:05] <Zeelot3k> yes none of them are called tree
[01:05] <Zeelot3k> I am in details mode
[01:05] <Zeelot3k> which shows the + sign
[01:06] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:     Settings > load view profile > file management
[01:07] <Typos_King> right... the click the + to expand, without going in it
[01:07] <Zeelot3k> that's my question lol, I want a file manager or an option to make the double click act like the + click
[01:08] <Typos_King> ...
[01:09] <pulaski> never mind,
[01:09] <Zeelot3k> thunar kinda does it
[01:09] <Zeelot3k> not very well
[01:09] <huston> is there another step?
[01:09] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:    I use/prefer Krusader....   it has a 'tree' pane and another pane for the files in the folder selected in the tree pane, it allows single-click on any folder with click to expand, and double-click to show its files on the 'files' pane
[01:10] <Typos_King> not sure if that helps
[01:10] <Zeelot3k> yea that's also decent
[01:10] <Zeelot3k> I would like the files listed in the tree pane though =(
[01:10] <Typos_King> huston:    no..... whatever happened?
[01:10] <huston> nothing
[01:10] <Zeelot3k> I don't want 2 panes =(
[01:10] <Typos_King> huston:  and how do you know is broadcomm?    have you checked in 'lspci'?
[01:10] <huston> it created a folder in the directory
[01:10] <Typos_King> heh
[01:10] <huston> and that is it
[01:10] <huston> yep
[01:11] <huston> I did the lspci
[01:11] <Typos_King> and its broadcomm?
[01:11] <huston> 4318
[01:11] <huston> yep
[01:11] <huston> says it is supported
[01:11] <Typos_King> right
[01:11] <lynxgeeknyc> hello people
[01:11] <Typos_King> can you paste a dump of lspci?
[01:11] <huston> sure
[01:11] <lynxgeeknyc> does anyone know a good prog for linux where I can install another Linux like a virtual machine?
[01:11] <huston> I will paste the part for the broadcom
[01:12] <|sysop|> qemu?
[01:12] <lynxgeeknyc> gemu?
[01:12] <Typos_King> vbox?
[01:13] <Typos_King> I'd think virtualbox will do
[01:13] <huston> you want it private or here
[01:13] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow , di you try to follow the instructions in mthe "install" text file located in the wicd folder ?
[01:13] <Ginglymostoma> where is kde's disk-space-usage-viewer?
[01:13] <Typos_King> huston:    hehhe, on a pastebin, like pastebin.com
[01:14] <huston> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
[01:14] <Typos_King> ..
[01:14] <huston> Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0005]
[01:14] <huston> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17
[01:14] <Typos_King> huston:    go to a console.... and type -> iwconfig <-- does it show any interface for it?
[01:15] <|sysop|> how can I see what agp speed xwindows is running my card at
[01:15] <|sysop|> ?
[01:15] <huston> all I get is my usb device
[01:16] <huston> I know it works
[01:17] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Ginglymostoma, sudo fdisk -l
[01:17] <huston> I have three wireless cards and they are all broadcoms
[01:17] <Typos_King> huston   how do you know it isn't working, the drivers aren't loading?
[01:17] <Zeelot3k> Typos_King: neither side seems to have + signs next to directories in Krusader...
[01:18] <Zeelot3k> how did you set that?
[01:18] <huston> well the other os that this had it worked with it
[01:18] <huston> I can replace it though
[01:19] <huston> let me go look through my stack of cards
[01:20] <aiur> huston: did you try jockey-kde?
[01:21] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:    http://imgur.com/vI4Ww.png   <--- is how mine looks like with it open
[01:22] <Typos_King> huston:  you mean is a pcmcia?
[01:22] <Zeelot3k> how did you get that bottom right one Typos_King?
[01:22] <Zeelot3k> oh I see!
[01:22] <Zeelot3k> ok thanks!
[01:22] <Typos_King> Zeelot3k:     well... that's the tree pane, is where I set it on the layout
[01:34] <huston> it is an internal card
[01:34] <huston> no but I will try jockey
[01:34] <huston> I have a lot of extra parts for laptops and such
[01:38] <huston> says I have none
[01:38] <huston> maybe I lost this card somewhere
[02:07] <nfblack> hello
[02:08] <nfblack> list
[02:14] <shamwow> bluesKaj-Laptop are you still there?
[02:14] <BluesKaj-Laptop> yes
[02:14] <shamwow> the last thing we were talking about was the name of the file
[02:14] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, wondered what happened
[02:15] <shamwow> yeah I have 2 laptops, I have Kubuntu on one and Vista on the other... I had to reboot vista and get it back up and working to continue to chat on here
[02:15] <shamwow> the name of my file is wicd-1.7.0.tar.gz
[02:15] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, did you read the "install" text file in the wicd folder?
[02:15] <shamwow> affirm
[02:16] <shamwow> i thought I did everything as it said
[02:16] <shamwow> i don't know how to use the pkg software
[02:16] <shamwow> so I skiped that and then worked with the python cmds
[02:18] <shamwow> i did everything it said and thought I installed it correctly... when I did the wicd-client cmd i had no success
[02:18] <BluesKaj-Laptop> the pkg software isn' t necessary right now ...we need to go thru the install procedure as listed in the install text file
[02:19] <shamwow> do you have a copy of that text file so that we can walk through it together?
[02:21] <shamwow> or I can follow inst pretty well so let me know what to do.. currently i have the file extracted to  >Home>wicd-1.7.0
[02:22] <BluesKaj-Laptop> yes, open the terminal and , cd wicd-1.7.0
[02:22] <shamwow> chk
[02:22] <shamwow> ok there now
[02:24] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok, sudo python setup.py configure
[02:25] <shamwow> done
[02:25] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok, sudo python setup.py install
[02:26] <shamwow> done
[02:30] <BluesKaj-Laptop> now alt f2 , wicd-client ...it should open
[02:30] <shamwow> nothing
[02:36] <shamwow> yeah i think that is where I am stuck
[02:36] <shamwow> was i suppose to run it with sudo or kdesu before wicd-client???
[02:37] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, when you entered the commands into terminal was there any output , or did the prompt just pop back ?
[02:37] <shamwow> prompt just disappeared
[02:38] <shamwow> sorry...
[02:38] <shamwow> when i typed the commands in the terminal there was a lot of output
[02:38] <shamwow> same as before
[02:39] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok, you might need to reboot for the init script to take hold
[02:39] <shamwow> stby
[02:40] <shamwow> ok restarted
[02:40] <RedXIII_> While installing kubuntu I'm getting a lot of "preparing to completel remove" messages from the "installing system" prompt.
[02:41] <RedXIII_> Is this normal?
[02:41] <shamwow> i did alt f2 and typed wicd-client and nothing happened except the prompt disappeared
[02:42] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok open the terminal , sudo wicd-client
[02:42] <shamwow> ok i got the following:
[02:43] <shamwow> Traceback (most recent call last): File "usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py", line 40, in <module> import gtk
[02:43] <shamwow> ImportErro: No module named gtk
[02:49] <shamwow> any idea what that means
[02:50] <BluesKaj-Laptop> are you still at the wicd prompt ?
[02:52] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow,   this command might clear it up,  ./wicd-client.py
[02:54] <RedXIII_> I think its deleting all the packages it installed
[02:54] <RedXIII_> or is it just displaying the wrong message..
[02:55] <shamwow> jus
[02:56] <BluesKaj-Laptop> RedXIII_, yes it installs tempm files to facilitate installation then removes them when they are replaced with the default files
[02:57] <RedXIII_> Oh I see. I was getting a little worried.
[02:57] <shamwow> blues where do i type that at? i am in the original install directory
[02:57] <RedXIII_> thanks ;)
[02:58] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, are you in the terminal at the wicd prompt like before ?
[02:58] <shamwow> same one we installed from
[02:59] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok  run  ./wicd-client.py
[03:00] <shamwow> ./eivf-vlirny.py: no duvh gilr ot fitrvyoty
[03:00] <shamwow> sorry
[03:00] <shamwow> ./wicd-client.py: no such file or directory
[03:01] <BluesKaj-Laptop> ok try  wicd-client.py
[03:02] <shamwow> wicd-client.py: command not found
[03:04] <BluesKaj-Laptop> is there a way to connect the pc with a  cable to the internet ? ..we'd have more luck installing from the repositories ..we can update your install first and then install wicd with apt
[03:04] <BluesKaj-Laptop> !apt
[03:05] <RedXIII_> Jeez its taking a long time to uninstall these packages
[03:05] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, seems you are missing some needed libs and perhaps dependencies
[03:05] <RedXIII_> been sitting at 99% for over 20 minutes.
[03:06] <shamwow> ok let me see if I can connect hardline
[03:06] <RedXIII_> seems to have finished :D
[03:07] <BluesKaj-Laptop> RedXIII_, yes it depends alot on your hardware and which version
[03:07] <RedXIII_> I shouldn't complain. I'm surprised this old ATA drive still even works
[03:07] <BluesKaj-Laptop> shamwow, good , it would be much easier
[03:08] <RedXIII_> I was even more surprised when my mobo had a connector for it.
[03:08] <RedXIII_> anddd install complete :D
[03:10] <shamwow> i connected via hardwire, it said active connection but no luck... i think I am going to hang it up for the night and pick it up tomorrow
[03:10] <shamwow> thanks for the update, talk again tomorrow
[03:13] <BluesKaj-Laptop> RedXIII, ok successful ?
[03:14] <RedXIII> Life makes a lot more sense now.. irc.kubuntu.org is a part of freenode isn't it...
[03:48] <RedXIII> Where's the setting to bind my windows key to the K thingy in kubuntu?
[04:42] <|sysop|> is anyone here familar with screen recycler?
[04:42] <|sysop|> on snow leopard
[04:42] <|sysop|> how can I set that up with kde4?
[05:37] <edgar> hola todos
[05:37] <edgar> como estan
[05:48] <Dementual> So, uh... sorry if this is a dumb question, but are the KDE 4.4.1 files in the backports not too safe to install?
[05:50] <islington> Dementual: as someone who is using those files (I updated using backparts to 4.4) I would say no
[05:50] <Dementual> Ahh... 'cause my Plasma stuff keeps crashing.
[05:51] <Dementual> Though, what I can see is quite pretty.
[05:51] <Dementual> Now if only I could see more of it.
[05:51] <islington> Dementual: what kde vesrion are you using?
[05:51] <Dementual> 9.10
[05:51] <Dementual> Fresh install
[05:52] <netdaemon> yes i found the experience rather incomplete
[05:52] <islington> You probably want/should upgrade to 4.4 since its a lot better than 4.3
[05:52] <Dementual> Went to update to KDE 4.4.1
[05:53] <netdaemon> i'm waiting for lucid personally
[05:53] <netdaemon> 10.04
[05:55] <Dementual> So there's no way to get fully updated to 4.4.1 in 9.10?
[05:56] <netdaemon> i believe there's instructions on kubuntu's main page
[05:56] <netdaemon> or news rather: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/135
[05:56] <Dementual> Yus
[05:56] <Dementual> That's what I followed to get to this point.
[05:59] <islington> Dementual: short version enable backports do a "sudo aptitude update"
[05:59] <islington> and a "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[05:59]  * netdaemon checks for updates on his kubuntu machines
[05:59] <netdaemon> i'v got backports enabled for the 4.3.x series...
[05:59] <islington> netdaemon: lol me too
[06:00] <netdaemon> things just didn't feel quite right when i went to 4.4.x, probably because some package name changes that didn't carry over from the updates so i figured i'd stick with 4.3 for now
[06:00] <Dementual> How would I go about fixing my stuff?
[06:01] <Dementual> And possibly going back without reinstalling (again)?
[06:01] <islington> delete your .kde folder to fix stuff
[06:01] <islington> downgrading will be much harder afaik
[06:01] <netdaemon> yes, downgrading not advisable
[06:02] <Dementual> Hrm...
[06:02] <Dementual> Would I be able to enable backports without it automatically downloading the latest stuff?
[06:03] <netdaemon> is 10.04 getting any spiffy new artwork?
[06:03] <netdaemon> i mean obviously not the desktop, but say the login manager and bootsplash?
[06:03] <Dementual> Looked the same to me.
[06:03] <Dementual> Assuming that ever got updated :v
[06:04] <islington> Dementual: no you would have to run an update command
[06:04] <islington> do me a favor and do alt+f2 and type in knapshot
[06:05] <Dementual> Alright.
[06:05] <islington> in ksnapshot there is a help button menu
[06:05] <islington> hit about KDE
[06:05] <islington> what do you see?
[06:06] <Dementual> http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9452/snapshot1ig.png
[06:07] <islington> k looks like your plasma bugs are probably due to 4.3 settings still being present, go to /home/[user]/
[06:07] <islington> and delete your .kde folder log out then log back in
[06:07]  * Dementual nods
[06:08] <islington> to see the .kde folder you might have to hit alt+. in dolphin
[06:09] <Dementual> Got it.
[06:09] <Dementual> One sec.
[06:09] <netdaemon> a rm -rf .kde from Konsole would work too
[06:11] <islington> netdaemon: I think 10.04 may get a new logo with the new font being designed and all
[06:11] <netdaemon> neat
[06:11] <netdaemon> i was hoping kubuntu wouldn't get the short end of the stick again :)
[06:11] <netdaemon> so other than that, will it still have the snowflake?
[06:12] <islington> other than that I dunno; gnome themes are pretty different from kde ones these days, would make much sense to make kde look like gnome
[06:12] <islington> *woulnn't
[06:12] <netdaemon> no i would expect not
[06:13] <netdaemon> i don't expect them to ever touch the default kde theming except moving some icons around, it's pretty out of the box for the most part
[06:13] <netdaemon> gnome on the other hand isn't
[06:13] <netdaemon> i was just wondering about the things they do normally theme
[06:13] <Dementual> Eh, no.
[06:14] <islington> suse got a customized air theme last release
[06:14] <islington> Dementual: whats up?
[06:14] <Dementual> Deleting .kde didn't help
[06:14] <islington> k can you describe the problem?
[06:14] <Dementual>  Well
[06:14] <Dementual> It seems to crash "Plasma Workspace" every startup
[06:15] <islington> even the default one??
[06:15] <islington> default setup I mean
[06:15] <Dementual> huh?
[06:15] <Dementual> like 9.10 fresh install?
[06:16] <netdaemon> hm
[06:16] <Dementual> fresh install is fine
[06:16] <Dementual> just whenever I enable the backports it tries to update to kde 4.4.1
[06:16] <Dementual> which would be cool if it worked, heh
[06:16] <islington> I would assume so since .kde deletion did not work.  k open a Konsole
[06:16] <Dementual> Update thing says I've got 32 blocked updates
[06:16] <Dementual> k
[06:16] <netdaemon> why are you enabling backports if not to upgrade to 4.4.1?
[06:16] <netdaemon> oh
[06:17] <islington> he has upped to 4.4
[06:17] <netdaemon> you'll need to dist-upgrade rather than regular upgrade to get those blocked ones
[06:17] <islington> yeah that would be it
[06:17] <Dementual> Oh?
[06:17] <netdaemon> aptitude full-upgrade
[06:17] <islington> sudo
[06:17] <netdaemon> sudo aptitude full-upgrade rather
[06:17]  * Dementual does that
[06:18] <Dementual> Just press y on everything that pops up?
[06:18] <islington> yes
[06:18]  * netdaemon may poke around kde 4.4.1 on his media box :)
[06:19] <netdaemon> i think i will actually
[06:19] <Dementual> careful
[06:19] <islington> netdaemon: whatever happened to plasma-mediaplayer?
[06:19] <Dementual> i hear it throws out plasma crashes :v
[06:19] <netdaemon> i don't have a clue tbh
[06:21] <netdaemon> and now we play the waiting game
[06:22] <islington> netdaemon: http://alediaferia.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/mediacenter-again/
[06:23] <Dementual> Reboot after full-upgrade?
[06:23] <netdaemon> log out and back in
[06:26] <netdaemon> install processes on atom machines take a bit longer :(
[06:26] <Dementual> Ohey
[06:26] <Dementual> <3
[06:26] <islington> yay
[06:26] <netdaemon> i guess that worked?
[06:26] <netdaemon> awesome beans
[06:26] <Dementual> Worked well indeed.
[06:26] <Dementual> Also, very very pretty.
[06:27] <netdaemon> kde's good for pretty
[06:27] <netdaemon> :D
[06:27] <islington> also I <3 dolphin
[06:27] <netdaemon> though the stability bit was only recentish
[06:27] <netdaemon> yes dolphin puts nautilus to shame
[06:27] <netdaemon> even OSX finder
[06:28] <islington> I found out that a svned folder in dolphin can be updated though gui?! I was like wow
[06:28] <Dementual> That's for sure
[06:28] <netdaemon> nautilus and finder are practically the same though...as far as interface
[06:39] <mint_> Guts i need help please. How can i revert back this command from a liveCD i can no longer boot up my X server is broken here is the command that i need to revert back to normal---- sudo tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/sdb2
[07:19] <caterpillar> .......................................
[08:14] <gohmifune> I'm having trouble sending audio to my bluetooth headset
[08:47] <\Ahmed> CAn i know how can i have KDE on ubunto 9.10
[08:47] <\Ahmed> ?
[08:47] <\Ahmed> :)
[09:13] <nemo__> hello.can someone tell me what is the best audio player for kde?
[09:15] <gcala> nemo__: amarok +1
[09:17] <nemo__> what means +1
[09:20] <gcala> nemo__: it's a vote, my vote
[09:20] <nemo__> qcala : aaaa :D 10x
[09:20] <alakoo> I run foobar trough wine but yeah..amarok is possibly the best
[09:31] <fotodasogno> ciao
[09:31] <fotodasogno> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi?
[09:51] <ct529> a problem .... the last version of pastebinit doe snot work anymore ....
[09:52] <ct529> if you do "pastebinit -i filename.txt" it does not retern a pastebin link, but just the url to the front page of the website .... what is going on?
[10:23] <armandyno> salve
[10:23] <armandyno> non c'è nessun italiano
[10:54] <ubuntu> Hey folks. I just sat down at my kubuntu 9.10 (i leave this desktop on all the time) and when i tried to do some basic operations i got weird messages about not beinf able to access certain folders that applications needed to operate. like /home/me/.kde/share/foo
[10:54] <ubuntu> i thought it might be a glitch so i restarted
[10:54] <ubuntu> hmm
[10:54] <Haza11> better
[10:55] <Haza11> Now when i restart i get this evil looking error: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=88038
[10:55] <Haza11> My first guess is that permissions have changed on my hd somewhere? What do you lot think?
[10:57] <xxx_> Hello World!
[11:01] <Guest3970> sd
[11:03] <Haza11> hmm. its not looking very good :s
[11:23] <Haza11> !grub
[11:35] <pascalFR> !symlink
[11:39] <xxx_> or alt+F2
[11:40] <xxx_> and gnome-terminal or konsole
[11:53] <Haza11> Im going to try again. I sat down at my computer this morning (i leave it on 24/7) and for some reason when i tried to use certain programs i was getting error messages about not being able to write to / open folder in me .kde/share dir.
[11:54] <Haza11> I thought a restart might fix it but when i tried to boot up my kubuntu 9.10
[11:54] <Haza11> i get error messages informing me that mounting certain dir's is failing
[11:54] <Haza11> like so: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=88038
[11:55] <Haza11> Im sitting on the live cd at the moment trying to mount my OS to see if i can fix the problem but im even having trouble with that! When i try to execute
[11:55] <Haza11> sudo fdisk -l
[11:56] <Haza11> i get the error: Unable to seek on /dev/sda
[11:56] <Haza11> Are my HD's (its a stripped raid array) broken?
[11:57] <Haza11> Any help is appreciated. If you help me get this fixed i'll come round to your house, cook you dinner and wash your car!
[12:06] <Haza11> okay okay, We can even go to paintball together! Hows zat? ;)
[12:35] <bottiger> I have a nginx-init.d script, but it doesn't start up on boot. How can I make ubuntu run it?
[12:42] <ct529> a problem .... the last version of pastebinit does not seem to work anymore .... if you do "pastebinit -i filename.txt" it does not return a pastebin link, but just the url to the front page of the website .... what is going on?
[12:45] <arch0njw> @bottiger are you able to manually start it with the script?
[12:46] <bottiger> arch0njw: yes - no problem
[13:09] <pancher> hi
[13:09] <pancher> mans
[13:09] <pancher> tell with me
[13:10] <pancher> I need to send mails from my host!     throowith php and mail function
[13:10] <pancher> [mail function]
[13:11] <pancher> ; For Win32 only.
[13:11] <pancher> SMTP = localhost
[13:11] <pancher> ; For Win32 only.
[13:11] <pancher> sendmail_from = me@localhost.com
[13:11] <pancher> ; For Unix only.  You may supply arguments as well (default: "sendmail -t -i").
[13:11] <pancher> ;sendmail_path =
[13:11] <FloodBotK1> pancher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <pancher> ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:57] <avihay> hi
[14:59] <avihay> say, my soundcard stopped working. restarting the computer will fix it, but I wonder if I can rmmod and insmod instead, to maybe reload the driver?
[15:00] <plattdeutscher> I installed from kubuntu 9.10 CD. All went fine - exept for X. I have a blank screen and can only ssh to the machine. How to config X remotely?
[15:01] <avihay> plattdeutscher: Xserver's config file is in /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
[15:01] <plattdeutscher> not any more in karmic
[15:01] <avihay> but you can go to the machine and use a text tty.
[15:02] <plattdeutscher> yes
[15:02] <plattdeutscher> I always get "Can't open display" if I try anything X config
[15:03] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, which video card ?
[15:04] <leom> ?def kurji
[15:05] <plattdeutscher> nVidia
[15:06] <genii> !ar
[15:06] <arch0njw> plattdeutscher:  paste the results of this command please:  lspci | grep -i nvidia
[15:07] <plattdeutscher> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 06fd (rev a1)
[15:08] <arch0njw> alrighty... not helping as much as I hoped.  Do you happen to know what kind of card it is?  like a 6000 series, or such?
[15:10] <plattdeutscher> I just did another "sudo Xorg -configure" and copied the generated file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I still get in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: No valid initial configuration found
[15:10] <arch0njw> From what I find based on that device code that is maybe an FX5200 or a Quadro NVS 295 -- either way, I think those use the older nVidia drivers.  You might want to fall back to the VESA driver and see if you can get that working to start with.
[15:11] <plattdeutscher> Yes, but I don't know how to start with a minimal configuration, now that xorg.conf istignored
[15:11] <plattdeutscher> is ignored
[15:12] <arch0njw> xorg.conf is definitely not ignored.
[15:12] <arch0njw> been using that in Karmic
[15:12] <arch0njw> need to go away for a bit, but can try to help in an hour or so
[15:13] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, what make and model computer, maybe we can search for the the right card that way
[15:13] <plattdeutscher> Dell precision T3500, my administrator just put it under my desk ;-)
[15:13] <plattdeutscher> don't know more
[15:14] <plattdeutscher> nvidia-detector doesn't know either
[15:14] <plattdeutscher> on my laptop I also have no xorg.conf and it works. Curious how?
[15:15] <Biosftw> hello... i got a question: Is kubuntu with an installation of xubuntu-desktop the same as xubuntu (when you use xfce...) or are there any kind of special distb adjustments to run the different env more effective?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, it's nVidia NVS 295 video chip
[15:17] <plattdeutscher> ah
[15:18] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, you need to install the nvidia-glx-185.18.36 driver , try doing so from the tty
[15:21] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, after installing , athe the tty do, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:26] <plattdeutscher> ok, strange patterns, but at least something is displayed - and I can Ctrl-F1.
[15:27] <plattdeutscher> is it a difference if the Monitor is connecetd via DVI or old-school?
[15:28] <plattdeutscher> I have an abnormal wide monitor
[15:29] <BluesKaj> plattdeutscher, did you do ,  sudo nvidia-xconfig before starting X ?
[15:31] <plattdeutscher> yes
[15:32] <BluesKaj> are you still at the tty ?
[15:32] <plattdeutscher> in X I did nvidia-settings - the resolution is correctly found out there
[15:32] <plattdeutscher> I went to X just now and did it
[15:33] <plattdeutscher> but it looks like a rorture for my IIyama monitor
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ok, plattdeutscher go back to the tty ,  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop , then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[15:35] <plattdeutscher> still the same
[15:35] <plattdeutscher> ok will try later
[15:35] <plattdeutscher> thank you so far
[15:37] <rahim123> hello all, could anyone help with a simple networking problem?  I can connect to smb shares by ip address but not by computer name.
[15:40] <bottiger__> I have a nginx-init.d script, but it doesn't start up on boot. How can I make ubuntu run it?
[15:57] <Pici> es
[15:57] <Pici> er, sorry, wrong window.
[16:13] <arch0njw> rahim123: trying computername.local
[16:14] <arch0njw> rahim123: I mean... try computername.local. For example:  smb://mycomputer.local/c$
[16:43] <ubuntu_> HEY
[16:43] <\Ahmed> Hey
[16:44] <\Ahmed> Will anyone tell me how to PM someone ?
[16:44] <\Ahmed> DOC are you there
[16:44] <\Ahmed> ?
[16:44] <arch0njw> Ahmen:  /msg username your message here
[16:45] <arch0njw> Ahmed:  /msg username your message here
[16:45] <\Ahmed>  [Nick] Erroneous Nickname
[16:45] <\Ahmed> How to i really rename it
[16:45] <Ahmed> FINALLY
[16:45] <Ahmed> Thanks
[16:45] <Ahmed> :)
[16:48] <Guest91964> HOW CAN I RENAME MY NICK I AM GETTING ERROR
[16:48] <Vroomfondle>  /nick yournick
[16:48] <\Ahmed> NOW ?
[16:48] <\Ahmed> Is it correct
[16:48] <Vroomfondle> stop using capitals. It's rude.
[16:48] <Vroomfondle> looks like \Ahmed to me
[16:48] <\Ahmed> Oh HUH
[16:49] <\Ahmed> Yeah
[16:49] <\Ahmed> Now ?
[16:49] <\Ahmed> Yeah i got my nickname thanks
[16:49] <Vroomfondle> still \Ahmed
[16:49] <\Ahmed> !
[16:49] <Vroomfondle> :)
[16:49] <\Ahmed> Its saying ! currently unavailable
[16:49] <\Ahmed> :(
[16:49] <arch0njw> Please avoid using return as punctuation.
[16:50] <Vroomfondle> \Ahmed: probably means that someone else is already using it.
[16:50] <Vroomfondle> Ahmed is a very common name, after all.
[16:50] <\Ahmed> Yeah i see
[16:50] <\Ahmed> Oh really ! didnt knew that
[16:50] <\Ahmed> Okay well listen
[16:50] <\Ahmed> I am downloading Kbununtu by Terminal and after that /
[16:50] <\Ahmed> Do i have to restart the system or how
[16:50] <\Ahmed> :)
[16:50] <\Ahmed> Any help
[16:50] <Vroomfondle> are you switching from Ubuntu?
[16:51] <\Ahmed> Yes
[16:51] <\Ahmed> Exactly
[16:51] <\Ahmed> From 9.10
[16:51] <Vroomfondle> okay. Just log out, then when you log in, select KDE from the session menu
[16:51] <\Ahmed> OH thank you
[16:51] <Vroomfondle> you will then be in Kubuntu
[16:51] <\Ahmed> :)
[16:51] <\Ahmed> umm interesting
[16:51] <Vroomfondle> you have to make sure you select KDE before you press the button to log in (there's a menu on the screen)
[16:51] <\Ahmed> YEsterday someone helped me downloading updates and now i had that command and i'm downloading :)
[16:51] <Vroomfondle> :)
[16:52] <\Ahmed> WHat do you mean  i should know KDE ?
[16:52] <\Ahmed> How exactly
[16:53] <arch0njw> When you are in the login screen, there is a "Session" menu from which you can choose what window manager you want to use.  You need to select "KDE" from that.
[16:53] <\Ahmed> Oh i see :)
[16:53] <\Ahmed> Nice explaning
[16:53] <\Ahmed> I mean at that login page right ?
[16:53] <arch0njw> :)
[16:53] <\Ahmed> Hey can you explain me whats the difference between this version and
[16:54] <\Ahmed> Desktop and Remix
[16:54] <\Ahmed> Notebook something
[16:55] <arch0njw> I think this link explains it better than I can: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[16:56] <arch0njw> I run normal Kubuntu on my netbook.  I have yet to be won over by the remixes.
[16:56] <\Ahmed> Lemme see
[16:56] <\Ahmed> SO for netbooks they have other versions ?
[16:56] <\Ahmed> RIght ?
[16:57] <arch0njw> I think it is a cut down version to make better use of the screen space.  It is all about the window manager UI and not about the actual functionality of the software included.
[16:57] <jessi90> hello all
[16:59] <jessi90> I do not succeed to see the films grandfathers, the screen is black but it is felt l' audio
[17:00] <\Ahmed> Hello
[17:22] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. Im getting this error message when itry do load up open office. "Configuration file "/home/hazamonzo/.kde/share/config/OpenOffice.orgrc" not writable"... Im really worried as i had this sort of erro this morning and when i went to restart the system would not boot. This is not just open odffice though. all my apps are throwing this sort of error.. Any thoughts??
[17:23] <[-Haza-]> For example.. if i hit print-screnn (opening ksnapshot) i get the error: "Configuration file "/home/hazamonzo/.kde/share/config/ksnapshotrc" not writable."
[17:24] <[-Haza-]> I thinking there is something wrong with permissions but i haven't chabged anything
[17:24] <[-Haza-]> *changed
[17:24] <Pici> [-Haza-]: It sounds like the ownership on those files may be incorrect.  If you open a terminal and use    ls -l /home/hazamonzo/.kde/share/config/ksnapshotrc    does it list your username in the user and group fields?
[17:24] <[-Haza-]> Makes me think one of the hard drives in my striped array is causing probllems.
[17:25] <[-Haza-]> Pici: Hey there. Let me check
[17:25] <[-Haza-]> Pici: It does list my name in owner AND group
[17:25] <Pici> [-Haza-]: hrm.
[17:25] <[-Haza-]> -rw------- 1 hazamonzo hazamonzo
[17:26] <Pici> [-Haza-]: does the output of 'mount' say that the drive that your /home is mounted on is readonly 'ro' or rw?
[17:28] <[-Haza-]> Pici: Im afraid i cannot see the home directory listed in the output of mount... problem is that my computer is locking up as we speak!
[17:28] <[-Haza-]> i can't pastebin the output. And chance i can PM you the 10 lines that mount outputs?
[17:28] <Pici> Sure, goa head
[17:28] <[-Haza-]> Save me spamming the channel
[17:28] <[-Haza-]> Pici: Cheers
[17:30] <[-Haza-]> Pici: Sent the PM by the way :)
[17:33] <Pici> [-Haza-]: Weird.
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> Pici: hehe, i was working on another file
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> and it does not save anymore
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> with this error:
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> (Read-only file system)
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> Shiiiiiiiiiit
[17:33] <FloodBotK1> [-Haza-]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <[-Haza-]> Something terrible is happening
[17:33] <Pici> [-Haza-]: Oh. wait. I see.  It looks like your raid probably had errors and the options say errors=remount-ro
[17:34] <[-Haza-]> Pici: It does indeed. What do you suggest?
[17:34] <[-Haza-]> Im kinda worried in going to lose data here :(
[17:35] <Pici> [-Haza-]: I'd take this time to backup your data knowing that your permissions are still intact and then deal with the raid issue.
[17:35] <[-Haza-]> Right. once ive backed up the system can you maybe point me in the right directionto debug this issue?
[17:35] <Pici> I'd tar ther data to an external device
[17:36] <Pici> [-Haza-]: I don't have a lot of experience working with RAID unforunately.
[17:36] <Pici> [-Haza-]: You may want to ask in #ubuntu, as there are a lot more people there and its not really Kubuntu specific at this point.
[17:39] <[-Haza-]> Pici: Okay mate. Thank you for all the help! Much appreciated!
[17:47] <leandroferrari> hi
[17:55] <Lord-Rahl> Anyone Know if possible to remove application icons for netbook remix 9.10
[18:19] <safinaskar> hello
[18:22] <human> I have KDE 4.4. I have the "System Tray" widget and it resizes each time if an event happens. Especially Kopete. If this time I was to click the "change desktop" button, I am pressing wrong button, because System Tray when resizing moves the Desktops switching widget into left! How can I make the Tray not to change the size?
[18:30] <arch0njw> human:  I got bit by that too.  I put the system tray in a different panel to avoid that issue.  But, I mostly switch desktops with custom key configs, so that helps too.  I think this is just a feature of KDE at this point.
[18:31] <simion314> what application can i use to record something with my microphone? something basic, just recording not editing or something profesional
[18:32] <arch0njw> simion314: krecord and audacity come to mind
[18:32] <human> arch0njw, thank you, it can be useful
[18:33] <arch0njw> human:  I have a hiding panel on the lower left that has the system try and trash.  I like them available, but out of the way.  And this is one of teh major reasons I think KDE is great (not a suck-up comment... really!!!)
[18:55] <carlos_> hi everyone
[18:55] <carlos_> if someone is interested I'm trying to install GNU Octave in my iPod Touch
[18:55] <carlos_> any help would be appreciated ;)
[18:56] <carlos_> a
[19:06] <Ahmed> Hello /
[19:06] <Ahmed> Well i have just switched to Kubuntu
[19:06] <Guest43393> ANd i am getting an application pop up evert minute
[19:07] <Guest43393> Its saying
[19:07] <Guest43393> Starting KITSD FAILED
[19:07] <Guest43393> What do i
[19:07] <Guest43393> do
[19:07] <Guest43393> :)
[19:07] <FloodBotK1> Guest43393: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Guest43393> Hello
[19:15] <\Ahmed> Hello ?
[19:17] <genii> \Ahmed: There does not seem to be anything called
[19:17] <genii> "kits" or so which would have a daemon called "kitsd"
[19:21] <\Ahmed> I am getting an error saying
[19:21] <\Ahmed> Starting  KTTSD failed
[19:21] <\Ahmed> ANy help
[19:21] <\Ahmed> I tried reinstalling
[19:21] <\Ahmed> no luck
[19:21] <\Ahmed> :)
[19:21] <FloodBotK1> \Ahmed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <geminidomino> Ever since Ubuntu went to pulseaudio, I've been having a headache every time I want to use a straight-up "line-in" style mic. I was wondering if you folks familiar with Kubuntu could tell me if using that instead makes it more straightforward than the GNOME sound setup currently in use by Ubuntu Mainline?
[19:24] <arch0njw> \Ahmed: kttsd exists.  That is the KDE Text To Speech Daemon.
[19:24] <tom789> hi!
[19:24] <tom789> I have a problem with my network settings
[19:25] <tom789> I connect directly to the internet, but once I used k-menu, computer, system preferrences for changing my internet access to use a proxy
[19:25] <tom789> I have later undone it (same place, checked "direct connection"
[19:26] <tom789> and i can access the net fine (firefox, konqueror, xchat) - apart from my system updater
[19:26] <tom789> it still tries to connect through the proxy which is not availabel though
[19:26] <tom789> how can I revert that?
[19:29] <ubuntu> olá
[19:30] <ubuntu> mas anos que não uso IRC mesmo sou da época do servidor da procergs
[19:53] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to rewrite the *.desktop file for a screensaver so that it plays a song while the screensaver is running.
[19:53] <Ertain> Basically it's a command to allow the screensaver to run while the music is playing.  However, I would also like the music to stop when the screensaver stops.
[19:54] <Ertain> I can do  a simple command like "foo-screensaver & play foo.mp3", but I don't know how to stop "play foo.mp3" after the screensaver has stopped.
[19:58] <akamaus> Ertain, try something like $ play foo.mp3 & foo-screensaver ; kill %1
[19:58] <Ertain> I shall try that.  Tahnk you akamaus.
[19:58] <Ertain> er, thank you
[20:23] <tim> hi im thinking of getting kubuntu what do you all recon
[20:30] <ToraToraTora> Frankly I feel using linux is asking for trouble. if you can't handle the heat, then just keep on using windows.
[20:31] <arch0njw> I wouldn't say it's a piece of cake, but it's not that bad.  It all depends on what you want to do.
[20:31] <arch0njw> If you want to continue using all of your Windows apps, then moving to Linux isn't necessarily the answer (speaking as one who has wrestled with WINE and Crossover).
[20:32] <arch0njw> But I use Kubuntu on a daily basis on my personal computer.  I boot into WinXP to play -one- game.  The only reason I use WinXP daily is for work.
[20:33] <RedXIII> Hi I'm having a problem getting my machine to boot into my windows server 2008 installation
[20:34] <RedXIII> When I select vista to load from GRUB it says "error: device not found: ###" where ### = UID.
[20:34] <arch0njw> Can you find the drive until 'buntu?
[20:34] <arch0njw> until -> under
[20:36] <RedXIII> The drive to boot on?
[20:36] <RedXIII> Its not mounted.
[20:36] <RedXIII> its under /dev/sda1, but I can open it in dolphin
[20:37] <arch0njw> Okay.  That's excellent.
[20:37] <arch0njw> type this in the konsole:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[20:38] <arch0njw> you can then find the UUID of /dev/sda1.  you can then confirm that UUID is being used in grub.
[20:38] <RedXIII> also do bear with me, I'm kind of a penguin noob
[20:38] <arch0njw> I'm only a noob+1...
[20:38] <RedXIII> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2010-03-07 19:36 4AD8E697D8E68115 -> ../../sda1
[20:38] <RedXIII> I assume that's it
[20:39] <RedXIII> so how do I check if that's correct in grub2?
[20:39] <arch0njw> grub2?  Hmm... I'll tell you how it works in grub and hopefully it is very similar.  You can get the menu list by typing "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst".  then look through that to find the Win2008 entry and make sure the UUID is correct.
[20:40] <RedXIII> It changed ;(
[20:40] <RedXIII> Everyone else said the same thing
[20:40] <RedXIII> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[20:40] <arch0njw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275  That might help.  I'm reading that right now too.
[20:41] <RedXIII> it uses grub.cfg
[20:41] <jchavez> hi
[20:42] <arch0njw> RedXIII: there is an "update_grub2" command you might want to try running.  Otherwise, there is a point 6 in that forum post that explains how to manually add an entry.
[20:42] <RedXIII> I ran that twice
[20:42] <RedXIII> its sudo upgrade-grub2
[20:42] <RedXIII> s/upgrade/update
[20:42] <RedXIII> sudo update-grub && sudo update-grub2
[20:43] <arch0njw> nutz.  It looks like you can take a look at the grub.cfg (though not edit it) and confirm that the UUID is correct.  I have to admit that UUID doesn't look like any I have seen before.
[20:44] <RedXIII> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:search <- looks like this is the solution
[20:44] <RedXIII> arch0njw: I already compared them, they are the same.
[20:45] <arch0njw> Well documented solution.  Please let me know if that works.
[21:17] <dabbler> the new pretty colour ubuntu wallpaper - is Kubuntu getting it?
[21:44] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[21:44] <[Relic]> How in 9.10 do you get a camera that auto detected and called up a window as a mass storage device in 8.04/8.10 to work properly so you can get the pictures off it?
[21:50] <arch0njw> Digikam will autodetect many cameras that can be connected by USB.  If that fails, sometimes it will simply recognize it as a mass storage device and let you copy images from it as if it were a drive.
[21:50] <arch0njw> What is the camera?  Might be able to look it up in a compatibility list.
[22:00] <darna> i want to install alien 8.73 on kubuntu, what should i do?
[22:20] <[Relic]> is a powershot a95 which autodetected as mass storage before, never had to use any other programs to get anything off of it
[22:24] <nighteyes> hi there
[22:24] <nighteyes> i have a problem
[22:24] <nighteyes> would anyone help?
[22:26] <xjjk> nighteyes: you need to ask your question before anyone can help you
[22:26] <xjjk> if someone can help you, they will
[22:30] <nighteyes> ok)
[22:30] <nighteyes> actually now im using windows 7 as operating system i have to use linux with it in the same pc
[22:30] <nighteyes> i installed ubuntu from in windows 7
[22:31] <nighteyes> everything was ok
[22:31] <nighteyes> then it restarted itself
[22:31] <nighteyes> and i saw some thing like hdd-0 hdd-1
[22:31] <nighteyes> then there was a black dos windows
[22:31] <nighteyes> sooo i cant start ubuntu
[22:32] <nighteyes> what shall i do?
[22:32] <xjjk> nighteyes: er, sorry, got disconnected
[22:32] <xjjk> mind repeating what you said before <nighteyes> then there was a black dos windows
[22:33] <nighteyes> :)
[22:33] <nighteyes> dos screen
[22:33] <nighteyes> )
[22:33] <nighteyes> i mean i am choosing linux to start with
[22:33] <xjjk> with the grub menu, you mean?
[22:33] <xjjk> which AFAIK is black and white
[22:33] <nighteyes> yes
[22:33] <nighteyes> yes it was grub i think
[22:34] <nighteyes> then it offered me to push tab
[22:34] <xjjk> er, tab?
[22:35] <nighteyes> when i push tab i recieve command tips like --- reboot boot rmmod etc..
[22:35] <nighteyes> tab button
[22:36] <xjjk> what happens if you don't do anything
[22:36] <nighteyes> it just stays
[22:36] <nighteyes> like that
[22:36] <xjjk> hit enter on the Linux option
[22:36] <xjjk> ?
[22:36] <xjjk> no errors?
[22:37] <nighteyes> no error
[22:37] <xjjk> well, it looks as if grub is messed up/uninstalled correctly
[22:37] <xjjk> it's sort of a PITA to fix, especially if you don't have an error
[22:38] <nighteyes> what is your suggestion?i will be new for linux
[22:38] <nighteyes> what shall i do now?
[22:38] <xjjk> is reinstalling an option?
[22:39] <xjjk> do you know what happened for it to end up like that?
[22:39] <xjjk> the problem is easily fixable, but invovled
[22:39] <xjjk> involved
[22:40] <nighteyes> nothing showed up i think
[22:41] <wizkoder> nighteyes: when you start ubuntu from the live cd is that working?
[22:42] <nighteyes> i didnt try yet,i just setup it in the windows 7 then restart the computer,chose ubuntu,it started to install itself,then restarted again finally this problem occurred
[22:43] <nighteyes> shall i check from live cd?
[22:43] <nighteyes> if its working?
[22:43] <wizkoder> yes. from there we can repair grub if thats broken
[22:43] <nighteyes> ok im coming soon will internet work?
[22:43] <wizkoder> will probably
[22:44] <nighteyes> ok thanks for help i will be back
[22:44] <RedXIII> I'm trying to follow the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#KDM Theme <- kdm theme installer instructions there
[22:44] <RedXIII> but sudo apt-get install kdmtheme shows that there's no package by that name
[22:44] <RedXIII> how would I install a custom KDM theme?
[22:44] <RedXIII> kubuntu 9.10
[22:48] <Abcdqfr> Anybody on?
[22:48] <clecke> yep
[22:48] <clecke> im on
[22:49] <Abcdqfr> Great, I'm getting a grub loading error, can you help?
[22:49] <clecke> maybe yes
[22:49] <Abcdqfr> It says the disk cannot be found
[22:50] <clecke> ubuntu?
[22:50] <Abcdqfr> Kubuntu 9.10
[22:51] <clecke> ok , there have been issues with redhat...
[22:51] <Abcdqfr> Then brings up grub rescue
[22:51] <clecke> how did it happend£?
[22:51] <Abcdqfr> Its trying to read a file I created to work with windows bootloader
[22:52] <clecke> you installed windows partitiion?
[22:52] <Abcdqfr> 2 drives
[22:52] <clecke> sometimes windows wipes out grub
[22:53] <Abcdqfr> Not using grub
[22:53] <clecke> how do you load ubuntu vs windows?
[22:53] <Abcdqfr> When I disable the xp drive, grub is still OK
[22:54] <clecke> you had an ubuntuinstallation? and you added windows?
[22:54] <Abcdqfr> I use windows bootloader. Currently i have to disable the windows drive to boot kubuntu
[22:55] <Abcdqfr> No, windows first. Shoukdnt matter with 2 drives
[22:55] <clecke> you opened your boot.ini file allready
[22:55] <Abcdqfr> I made sure grub installed on the linux drive. Yes
[22:55] <wizkoder> Abcdqfr: The bootblock on the master drive is what you need to install grub in
[22:55] <clecke> you can also use your bootloader of windows
[22:56] <clecke> paste it inhere
[22:56] <Abcdqfr> wizkoder: That woukd wipe out the windows boot loader and replace it with grub. Dont want that.
[22:57] <Abcdqfr> Cant reakly do that
[22:57] <clecke> so you must correct your boot.ini file
[22:57] <clecke> the problem must be in that file
[22:57] <Abcdqfr> I think boot.ini is fine
[22:57] <wizkoder> Abcdqfr: what a bootloader is that? acronis?
[22:57] <clecke> standard windows ;)
[22:57] <Abcdqfr> I think its the file i made in linux
[22:58] <Abcdqfr> wizkoder: Boot.ini?
[22:58] <wizkoder> clecke: enlight my. Is windows nowadays able to boot other systems than windows?
[22:58] <clecke> yep
[22:58] <Abcdqfr> Yeah
[22:58] <clecke> you just have to define your partition
[22:58] <clecke> and it will boot ;)
[22:58] <Abcdqfr> Sometimes it may require assistance
[22:59] <clecke> maybe this will make you chance os ;)
[22:59] <Abcdqfr> From other files
[22:59] <wizkoder> Can't believe that. So maybe windows finds other systems?
[22:59] <clecke> if you define to boot of it yes
[22:59] <Abcdqfr> It would find other microsoft OS's
[22:59] <wizkoder> I bet linux cannot change the windows bootloader
[22:59] <Abcdqfr> Not foreign OS's
[22:59] <nightrid3r> windows will NOT recognise nor boot other OS
[22:59] <wizkoder> So you are stuck with windows :-))))
[23:00] <Abcdqfr> Not so
[23:00] <wizkoder> maybe make the linux disk the master?
[23:00] <Abcdqfr> I just need to configure the right input and output in linux while making the booting file
[23:01] <clecke> it wont recognise the filesystem but will boot of it
[23:01] <Beaver> www.search2.net (new search engine)
[23:02] <Abcdqfr> Bad beaver
[23:02] <Abcdqfr> No advertising
[23:02] <wizkoder> Beaver: does not find my page. So can't be good ;-)
[23:04] <wizkoder> Abcdqfr: I don't get it. How do you want to give control to linux if windows is called?
[23:04] <Abcdqfr> Winfoes is not called 'yet'
[23:04] <Abcdqfr> This is still BIOS
[23:06] <wizkoder> what kind of disks? scsi?
[23:06] <Abcdqfr> Ide
[23:06] <schultza> Hi. I'm trying to create/use a swap file on an ntfs partition. I dont want to have to reinstall windows when I resize it again.
[23:06] <Abcdqfr> Y not?
[23:06] <wizkoder> Abcdqfr: And windows is master?
[23:07] <Abcdqfr> Yes
[23:07] <wizkoder> tried to change the master and install grub on the linux disk?
[23:08] <Abcdqfr> That would boit grub by default
[23:08] <Abcdqfr> Boot
[23:08] <wizkoder> Abcdqfr: I have no clue with windows bootloader. Can't be of any help here
[23:08] <Abcdqfr> Thx anyway
[23:09] <clecke> try to use Grub loader , its much easier
[23:09] <edigley> hi
[23:09] <clecke> why dont you want to use grub?
[23:09] <edigley> no
[23:09] <Abcdqfr> Dont like it
[23:09] <clecke> you can start Boot.ini from grub aswell
[23:10] <clecke> so you have a perfet bootloader
[23:10] <Abcdqfr> Prefer windows bootloader very strongly
[23:10] <clecke> why?
[23:10] <Abcdqfr> Its my main OS
[23:10] <Abcdqfr> Boots all my other OS's
[23:11] <clecke> windows os's?
[23:11] <Abcdqfr> Mac, linux, other windows.
[23:11] <clecke> ok
[23:11] <clecke> so you better log a call with M$ ;)
[23:12] <Abcdqfr> They would help with linux?
[23:12] <Abcdqfr> Nvm
[23:12] <clecke> dont know , but i think its a boot.ini misconfig
[23:13] <Abcdqfr> I think its the input file or output file extension i use when i make the boot file from linux's mbr
[23:14] <clecke> could be
[23:14] <Abcdqfr> Most likely
[23:14] <clecke> but you must change it in you boot.ini for sure
[23:15] <Abcdqfr> I have
[23:15] <clecke> if you can show me your boot.ini maybe i can help
[23:15] <Abcdqfr> I'm on my iPod
[23:15] <clecke> oh ok ;)
[23:16] <clecke> tommorow you can come again ;
[23:16] <Abcdqfr> I gaurantee you, the boot.ini is 110% functional
[23:16] <clecke> then your ubuntu install is not right
[23:17] <clecke> try to install it again
[23:17] <Abcdqfr> No, its the file made in linux
[23:18] <Abcdqfr> I'm sure
[23:18] <Abcdqfr> Can you help me with that or not?
[23:19] <clecke> did you ever boot your ubuntu?
[23:19] <Abcdqfr> Yes
[23:19] <clecke> in your etc you have your bootlevels
[23:20] <clecke> try to check the conf files there
[23:20] <clecke> something must be wrong with it
[23:21] <clecke> have to go now
[23:21] <xxx_> Hi   Did Anybody use Sabayon 5.1?
[23:22] <clecke> hope you can  work it out
[23:23] <cuznt> my wife and i both run kde4.4.1 we have sharing samba installed, in the network workgroup BOTH "servers" are shown, but it keeps timing out
[23:23] <cuznt> !samba
[23:25] <cuznt> such a helpful bot
[23:25] <cuznt> !botsnack
[23:28] <Typos_King> heh
[23:29] <ubuntu_giant> Hello.  I'm trying to print double-sided in Okular.  I can't seem to find the settings to do that like I can in Evince.  Help, please?
[23:40] <ubuntu_giant> Anyone know?
[23:40] <Typos_King> ... I don't use okular myself... :|
[23:41] <ubuntu_giant> Probably a good idea.
[23:43]  * schultza created his swap file.
[23:44] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:44] <Typos_King> doesn't mean is bad btw.... just means, I couldn't check right now :)
[23:45] <avihay> !swat
[23:53] <xxx_> I have problem with sound playin in flash services like YouTube etc. Video is ok. But sound - no. Where I can check the stream in firefox flash-addon?
[23:53] <xxx_> Thanx
[23:55] <ubuntu_> h'
[23:55] <ubuntu_> im nighteyes
[23:55] <ubuntu_> NIGHTEYES
[23:55] <ubuntu_> ANYONE REMEMBER ME
[23:55] <ubuntu_> :*
[23:55] <ubuntu_> I HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT A QUESTION
[23:55] <ubuntu_> I HAD A PROBLEM ACTUALLY
[23:56] <xxx_> Ubuntu, Do U have the same probl.?
[23:57] <xjjk> ubuntu_: please take caps lock off
[23:57] <ubuntu_> ok
[23:57] <ubuntu_> im sorry
[23:57] <xjjk> xxx_: no, his problem is different
[23:57] <xxx_> i see )
[23:58] <xjjk> ubuntu_: er, I wasn't following up with what the other person told you to do... why did he ask you to use the LiveCD?
[23:58] <ubuntu_> haha
[23:58] <ubuntu_> i dont know he said that he could help me here
[23:58] <ubuntu_> im really new but i liked this linux
[23:59] <ubuntu_> if only i had not this issue
[23:59] <ubuntu_> he said there was smt about gnup or smt like that