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phillwJesse1984:  have you tried using Envyng to get your ATI driver for you ?00:30
Jesse1984phillw, no, whats that ?00:32
phillwit is like hard-ware drivers, you get it, you update your system, then see if it can find a compatible driver, there's some stuff on it over here --> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-nvidiaati-graphics-card-driver-in-ubuntu-910karmic   maybe worth a try ?00:34
Jesse1984awesome, ill look into that now, thanks00:34
phillwI recall that  sudo apt-get update can add drivers to the HardWare section of System --> Admin00:35
Jesse1984ok, thanks00:36
phillw(I'm 10.04 lubuntu, not 9.10 ... but I've certainly had good results with the sudo apt-get update, followed by checking the HardWare Drives for others.00:36
Jesse1984do you know of a way to restore the vga settings to default, as they were when i first installed ? then maybe i can set low power mode for the graphics card so it doesnt overheat..00:37
phillwis it the fglrx one that you're after ?00:39
Jesse1984to be honest i dont know, im a total newbie to all of this, i think thats the one it uses by default isnt it ?00:39
phillwokies, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333  There is a sticky there with information on it & you can also post questions to the sticky or to the that section. I don't have an ATi card, so I cannot give you "How I got it working" - but there'll be people there who can :-)00:41
Jesse1984thanks! ill see if it can follow it up with them.. now my wifi isnt working.. argh! i didnt get the keychain prompt on boot like normal...00:43
ARC0112358RDP client keeps getting closed - worked fine last night...  today I can't connect to server.00:49
ARC0112358ping www.msn.com00:51
Jesse1984does anyone know how to force ubuntu into VGA mode or a low video mode when booting ?01:42
pedro3005Jesse1984, maybe you could uninstall the drivers via a live cd?01:46
Phreaarent there cheat codes for Ubu [like there are for Knoppix]?02:20
pedro3005phillw, what do you mean cheat codes?02:22
Phreawhen booting Ubu, at command prompt02:25
Phreasomething like screen=1024x800 etc02:26
geirhaPhrea: vga=ask03:38
geirhaAdd that to the kernel line, right after «quiet splash»03:39
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mongoosedoghey guys back with anther stupid question probably, trying to burn an audio cd, but some of my songs are .wma gnome baker and brasero won't play the game, any advice?13:39
ShadowKnighthi,i had a quick question. what is xubuntu and kubuntu?15:26
switchgirlseb around?15:27
elfyShadowKnight: they are versions of ubuntu using a different desktop environment - xubuntu uses xfce and kubuntu uses kde - ubuntu uses gnome15:28
elfyhi switchgirl - no idea - never heard of him15:28
ShadowKnightelfy: is there any uses to them? i was looking into them and was wondering if they are any good15:28
elfythey are all different and have uses :) I personally prefer gnome - but I have played with both of the others, if you want to look you can install them into ubuntu and choose to use the others at login15:30
ShadowKnightyou can? how can you do it?15:30
elfy2 secs15:31
elfyhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php - on the left hand pane - at the bottom "Playing Around"  instructions on how to install and get rid of kde and xfce15:32
elfythough bear in mind that your current menu will become a LOT bigger :)15:33
ShadowKnightlol okay then i will. ive seen screenshots and it does look big. so is this just like an add on for ubuntu or its own separate system?15:33
elfyShadowKnight: I tend to download the isos now and install in a virtual machine15:33
ShadowKnightwhat virtual machine do you use?15:34
elfythey are not addons - when you choose to run them at login - you are running that variant15:34
ShadowKnighthmmmm okay then15:34
elfyvirtual box - not the OSE version but the one from the sun site15:34
ShadowKnightalright then, imma go look into that then :) thanks15:35
elfyyour're welcome :)15:35
ShadowKnighthello, i have a question. i just uninstalled kubuntu and now im running into this problem:16:34
ShadowKnightE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.16:34
ShadowKnightE: _cache->open() failed, please report.16:34
Joeb454ShadowKnight: did you try running what it said16:38
ShadowKnighti did but it didnt let me type in my password16:38
elfyit's invisible - type it and enter16:40
ShadowKnightldconfig deferred processing now taking place< thats the last line it has do i wait for it to finish?16:42
ShadowKnightbecause its not moving from there and its been a couple of minutes16:42
AJHunteris there a way to set up a private file sharing system that doesn't require you to set up a server and can transfer from Linux to Windows or Mac OS X?17:17
AJHunterhello?17:26
elfyhello17:26
elfyI use 2 desktops here - one serves the other media files - but I have no win or mac to deal with17:27
AJHunterhmm... That... would make this difficult for you... for once, google didn't have all the answers. I checked.17:28
ikthow private does the file sharing system need to be?17:29
iktafaik mac has samba so using the typical samba shares should work17:29
AJHunterumm... Just like, people-in-my-family private17:34
iktyeah then a samba should be fine17:38
elfyI'd agree with that17:38
ikthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/easy-file-sharing <- would be nice if someone resurects that project, might make a forum post17:38
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Silver_Fox_Goodbye.18:01
AJHunterokthxbai!18:01
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switchgirli need adviceon who to talk to about a comment - abuse - on Launchpad18:44
switchgirlactually ignore me18:45
switchgirlsorry18:45
pedro3005switchgirl, https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback#Inappropriate%20content18:45
switchgirli re - read the comment18:46
pedro3005oh18:46
switchgirlhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/103579 << skim reading the last comment18:46
pedro3005Oh man18:47
switchgirlhuh?18:47
pedro3005I was just reading about the recent drs305 leaving and other team members...18:47
pedro3005And I began to remember when I was merely a beginner here, like two (?) years ago... The channel was way more active, everyone would talk and this would be a chill out chatter... In fact that's why I stuck around.. Now, the team feels cold. Very... official, worried. It's not just friends hanging out and helping beginners anymore18:49
switchgirlyeah i think the mistake was made in the last 2 months18:50
switchgirlthis chan is now a support chan18:50
pedro3005switchgirl, we've gone too official and bureaucrat18:50
switchgirland that kills any sence of being able to talk18:50
pedro3005And what's worse...18:50
* switchgirl gives a understanding smiles 18:51
pedro3005The helping of beginners has not improved... Dare I say it worsened.18:51
switchgirlyup18:51
* switchgirl waves as shes been here and WANTS to learn but is a beginner18:51
pedro3005Many questions unanswered, ignored.18:51
switchgirlhow long have i been here pedro3005?18:52
pedro3005switchgirl, I don't remember... hm.. 3-4 months?18:52
switchgirlnearly a year or more, and what have i learned? next to nothing as the stuff folk talk about is either too technical or not expained in end user terms18:53
switchgirlsee i need to learn - im living well below the poverty line18:53
switchgirland yet no one seems to be very proactive18:54
switchgirlso i dont try as hard as i used to18:54
pedro3005switchgirl, and there's so many inactive members18:55
switchgirlcompiledkernel tried, bless him, as did some others but i didnt get it the whole "how to set up a repository" thing18:55
pedro3005And what I mean by active is sticking around this channel and answering questions, giving help.18:55
pedro3005compiledkernel, curse him :P I still haven't lost the trauma18:56
pedro3005switchgirl, do you mean add a repository to your apt list or set up your own repository?18:57
switchgirlto be able to answer questions you have to have a basic understanding of the system. i have yet to grasp this18:57
switchgirlset up your own repository18:57
pedro3005switchgirl, wouldn't a PPA do it?18:57
switchgirlno i mean taking 50gb of hard disk space and setting up a network repository so that all machines on your network have a repository to update fropm18:59
switchgirlnot the ppa or external ones - i agree its a REALLY cool thing if you know what your doing18:59
pedro3005switchgirl, ah, well, wouldn't know then19:01
pedro3005sorry19:01
switchgirlsee :) it are hard19:02
switchgirlbut anyway it was not compiledkernel's fault i was / am really bad19:02
switchgirli should go read the manuals19:02
switchgirlbrb i shall start19:03
switchgirlactually umm19:03
switchgirlone question19:03
switchgirlpedro3005: how to check a zip with a md5?19:03
switchgirl0b4fa10a6f4995b3e2f729454c1462b6 <that MD5 sum to be prosise19:04
pedro3005switchgirl, so that is the sum it's supposed to be?19:04
switchgirli just d/l the ubuntu pocket guide19:05
switchgirland now have no idea how to check it with a .zip19:05
pedro3005switchgirl, so basically, the place you downloaded it from should give you the sum19:05
switchgirl*check the .zip with this 0b4fa10a6f4995b3e2f729454c1462b619:06
switchgirlthat is the sum19:06
pedro3005switchgirl, then you go on a terminal and type 'md5sum filename.zip'. then you see if it's equal19:06
switchgirldo you have to change to that directory?19:07
pedro3005switchgirl, well of course19:07
elfyswitchgirl: are you talking about an apt-cache?19:07
switchgirlelfy: i think so it was AGES ago19:09
switchgirl:s19:09
switchgirlDarkwingDuck and compiledkernel run the project19:09
elfy:) I'll be looking into that once lucid has released as I will have 3 machines here all at the same version - finally ;)19:10
switchgirli mean a project that is supposed to show everything on ubuntu and how EVERYTHING works19:10
elfywhat project is that?19:10
elfyoic19:10
elfy:)19:10
elfywell if once I have fought with apt-cache and won you want some information I will be happy to help19:11
switchgirlbut again very technical and as the most geeky thing i can claim to have is steel train track braces - age 21- and a certified user of Microsoft office 2003 word (thats the product ms word not me trying to be down wid da kidz and all  that shizzl19:12
switchgirli really need to know the basics19:12
elfywhat basics?19:13
switchgirlhence why am reading the pocket guide19:13
switchgirland saving for the online lessons19:13
elfythe stuff I know I learnt by breaking things and having to fix them - or they were things I needed to do so learnt those19:14
elfyI don't learn well from manuals so found it easier to do it that way19:14
lukjad86switchgirl Hi there. Long time no see19:15
lukjad86Hah19:16
switchgirlsorry switching clients19:16
switchgirlirssi so i can read two things at once19:17
pedro3005lukjad86, no one stands you19:18
pedro3005yay19:18
switchgirllukjad86: hi19:20
lukjad86Hi switchgirl19:21
lukjad86I'm lagging ferociously here, so I'm not ignoring you if you don't see me say anything19:21
* switchgirl shuts down and re orginises cables before reading as she is distracted by them...... grrrrrrrrr ocd-ness (i mock it cus it's true :'(19:36
xfactI am currently on Lucid Lynx alpha 319:54
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GarmaZedHey fellow beginner-chatters.22:01
elfyhi GarmaZed22:02
drubinhi GarmaZed22:05
serverduckHi GarmaZed !22:05
GarmaZedHas anyone had any success with wireless sharing across computers, even with Windows+Linux?22:06
* elfy bows out at the mention of wireless .. 22:07
GarmaZedYeah, it's something I've tried a while ago when considering going all Ubuntu on the notebook.22:07
GarmaZedI just couldn't get it to happen for whatever reason, wanted to know if anybody ever had a successful go at it.  :P22:07
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bodhi_zazenGarmaZed: sharing how ?22:15
bodhi_zazenSamba works, as does NFS, ssh (sshfs)22:15
GarmaZedSharing files and maybe printers across a wireless infrastructure network, like through the router.22:15
michae1just curious, no stupid questions here, right?22:18
elfyindeed so michae122:18
michae1alrighty then...22:18
michae1here goes22:18
michae1not much on the open source, and was sugested by a friend to use ubuntu desktop ( not much for the command line, so am trying to stick with the gui )as a server to solve some master browser issues I'm experiencing. is there a tutorial that I can follow to show me how to get desktop to act like a server?22:20
elfynothing to stop you installing the server and adding the necessary on top of it, I have 2 desktops at home - 1 I use to serve media - I guess it depends what you are after22:21
michae1I'm just trying to find a simple solution to several win xp boxes and one win 7 box that are causing a serverless network to get bogged down to the point where files on a nas are getting corrupted.22:23
michae1If I understood what you said there elfy, I could install the server kernel and then the desktop gui on top of that to administer the server?22:25
bodhi_zazenGarmaZed: Samba will do that for you, that is what I use22:26
bodhi_zazenmichae1: Install server edition22:26
bodhi_zazenThen add webmin22:26
elfymichae1: listen to bodhi_zazen - he'll know more than I22:27
bodhi_zazenhttp://www.webmin.com/intro.html22:27
bodhi_zazenMost of the apps on a desktop you do not need on a server22:27
bodhi_zazenso, you can install a desktop , and add in server soft ware, nothing wrong with that22:27
bodhi_zazenbut if you want a dedicated server, webmin gives you a graphical interface22:28
bodhi_zazenyou should invest some time in learning ssh, nano / vim , and bash22:28
GarmaZedbodhi_zazen: I'll look into it again, last time I tried I could get them to see each other across a network, but could not get them to share anything, or access each other.22:30
bodhi_zazenGarmaZed: is one of the boxes wired ?22:31
GarmaZedThey both were connected wirelessly.  One a Win7 64-bit desktop, back then the other was a 64-bit Ubuntu or Linux Mint notebook.  Now the notebook is 32-bit Ubuntu.22:31
bodhi_zazenSome wireless routers seem to have problems with wireless and Samba.22:34
bodhi_zazenGarmaZed: are you familiar with ssh ?22:34
michae1bodhi_zazen: I'm looking for the easiest 'quick' fix for right now, I guess that 's why this was suggested to me. I know the network is going to grow pretty rapidly in the next few months and they have nothing in the way of an admin to fix problems like the master browser timing out problem. as I get the time between problems, I want to set up a more stable and reliable server for their environment. I'm just a design22:35
michae1guy who knew a very little something about networking.22:35
GarmaZedNot very, no.  I am in the beginners channel, right?  :P22:35
bodhi_zazenIf so, install ssh onto your Ubuntu box, and you can connect with Winscp (from windows) or mount a share with sshfs (Ubuntu)22:35
GarmaZedI'm headin' off for a while, thanks for the chat22:40
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ShadowKnighthey, i was wondering. can you change your login screen for ubuntu? and can you have multiple pictures alternating as a background?22:45
bodhi_zazenYes , but not easily ShadowKnight22:46
bodhi_zazendepends on the version of GDM / KDM22:46
ShadowKnightso how long would it take to do? i was seeing if its worth it. i have the newest one i think22:46
bodhi_zazenShadowKnight: http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=15022:46
bodhi_zazenbut that is the old version22:47
ShadowKnighthmmm okay. i went to a similar website thats why i was asking about this22:47
ShadowKnighti went to here. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter22:50
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129253322:56
ShadowKnighthmmm okay thanks :)22:59
ShadowKnightso any way to get the pictures though? or should i just create a slideshow and try to do it through there?23:03
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serverduckwarning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite23:37
serverduckWhat is this?23:37
canthus13serverduck: Prolly some programmer's warning that he just cobbled the code together well enough to make it work, but don't be surprised if it breaks.23:38
serverduckcanthus13, Thank you so much sir.23:39
canthus13No prob.23:40

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