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dpmgood morning ev, cjwatson. How is the POT template of ubiquity created (the one for the installer, not the one for the .desktop file on the live installation)? I've had a quick look at the sources and I couldn't quite figure out how. I'm just looking at bug 533859 and I thought it might just be a matter of the template not being up to date and not yet containing those strings missing for translations09:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533859 in ubiquity "Missing translations in latest Ubuquity version from Lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53385909:16
cjwatsondpm: by running debconf-updatepo by hand09:28
dpmok, thanks cjwatson09:28
CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3897 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):09:59
CIA-3ubiquity: Only try to set the focus on the next button when we've handed over09:59
CIA-3ubiquity: control to the user. Prior to this the quit button was getting the09:59
CIA-3ubiquity: focus because the next button was insensitive.09:59
cjwatsondpm: anyway, at least one of those strings has a 'TODO i18n' comment by it10:07
cjwatsonso I think it's just not internationalised yet :(10:09
evon it now10:11
dpmah, thanks cjwatson, ev :)10:11
CIA-3usb-creator: evand * r271 usb-creator/ (bin/usb-creator-helper debian/changelog):10:51
CIA-3usb-creator: Provide a quick workaround for LP 529366 while a better fix is10:51
CIA-3usb-creator: prepared. Ignore errors on setting the boot flag for the target10:51
CIA-3usb-creator: partition.10:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 529366 in usb-creator "Regression: usb-creator-gtk doesn't work as of 0.2.16" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52936610:51
CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3898 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs):10:55
CIA-3ubiquity: Use translatable strings for the keyboard query widget10:55
CIA-3ubiquity: (LP: #533859).10:55
CIA-3usb-creator: evand * r272 usb-creator/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.2.1811:00
evmichaelforrest: http://people.canonical.com/~evand/tmp/usb-creator-common_0.2.18_all.deb http://people.canonical.com/~evand/tmp/usb-creator-gtk_0.2.18_all.deb11:02
evI've heard some reports (one in Millbank, others in bugs) of grub install failing and not going to the "grub install failed, choose a different device to install it on dialog".  Just a heads up, I'm going to run through a test install and see if I can reproduce it.12:25
evalso, I broke the resize progress bar, fixing nowish12:26
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CIA-3ubiquity: evand * r3899 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs):14:09
CIA-3ubiquity: Bring back the resizing partition progress dialog that was removed14:09
CIA-3ubiquity: with the rest of the automatic partitioning progress dialogs.14:09
evcjwatson: your extra parameter to progress_stop ended up having a use after all. ^14:09
cjwatsonev: can't we keep track of this some other way?  we ought to be able to remember the template used for the topmost progress bar14:14
evcjwatson: sure14:14
evcjwatson: how's this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/391075/14:22
evah, nesting, damn.14:23
cjwatsonev: I thought ubiquity.progressposition already kept track of this14:27
evOkay. I'll take a look after I'm done hunting down the cause of an apt-setup bug with cruzer micros.14:34
cjwatsonI'm resurrecting a machine to put some giant hard disks in for parted testing14:35
evNice14:38
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evI really need to pick up a netbook. As much fun as playing roulette with my primary laptop and two USB keys is...15:08
cjwatsonyou must be coming up on three years at Canonical soon15:10
cjwatsonlaptop refresh benefit ...15:10
davmor2ev: don't be tempted with the ssd ones ;)15:10
cjwatsondavmor2: why not?  I am :)15:11
evMay :)15:11
davmor2cjwatson: not enough space15:11
cjwatsonI've certainly seen laptops with SSDs bigger than my current laptop's hard disk15:11
evUbuntu takes under 3gb...15:12
cjwatsonI'm happy to use fileservers elsewhere for serious storage15:12
* persia has happily used a 4G netbook at UDS.15:12
davmor2cjwatson, ev: yeah the issue comes when you want to try a side by side with windows :)15:12
cjwatsondavmor2: you can get SSDs much bigger than that15:13
cjwatson128GB is not totally unreasonably priced15:13
davmor2cjwatson: yeah but at the time 8gb was the standard in netbooks :)15:13
cjwatsonyeah, I'm not interested in netbooks :)15:13
cjwatsonnot made for people with big hands15:14
davmor2cjwatson: ev said he was though :)15:14
cjwatsonmm, yeah15:14
evYeah, but my use case for it is only installer development and testing15:15
davmor2ev: not enough room for side by side or wubi testing.  on 8gb drive windows takes up loads15:16
evSure, I'd plan accordingly.15:16
davmor2ev: almost certainly I'm just saying :)15:17
evAssuming the pound ever rebounds, I can always pick up a big Intel SSD on the cheap in the states15:17
evshtylman: can you please provide a changelog message for the outstanding items in your branch?  Also, why did you comment out the progress window code?16:56
cr3does d-i and/or casper support installation where the installation media is available over an iscsi drive?16:57
cjwatsoncr3: casper doesn't, d-i mostly does16:59
cjwatsonoh, *installation media* available over iscsi16:59
cjwatsonhmm, probably only if your BIOS sets up the iscsi drive to look like scsi16:59
cr3cjwatson: as opposed to installing onto an iscsi drive16:59
cr3I have to admit that my knowledge of iscsi is flaky at best17:00
shtylmanev: I commented it out cause I put back the new style progress bar which was commented out for a quick release right before alpha 317:00
shtylmanev: yea...I think I can put some poetry in the changelog17:01
evthanks17:01
evcan you simply delete it then?  We don't need to comment things out when we have a VCS, unless you expect it to be reverted again.17:02
shtylmanev: yea... I agree... and no.. I hope it doesn't need to be reverted again17:02
shtylmanthe goal is for it not to be at least17:02
evokay, cool17:05
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kirklandcjwatson: is grub2 taking 3-5 minutes to install the bootloader a bug, or expected behavior?18:31
kirklandcjwatson: i ask because my automated cloud installations take about 10 minutes per machine, with 3-5 minutes of that being the grub installation step (at least as reported by d-i's status bar)18:32
cjwatsonkirkland: bug19:24
kirklandcjwatson: okay, i'll reproduce and attach logs19:26
superm1cjwatson, i grabbed parted 2.2-1ubuntu2 out of NEW and manually installed those binaries (and put symlinks in place so parted_server worked still), but same thing and even calling partprobe still is returning an error, along with new device nodes not being created19:54
shtylmancjwatson: is there a way to run a script only on the first install of a deb package?21:22
shtylmanand not on subsequent updates?21:22
cjwatsonyes, check debian-policy for the version argument passed to the postinst21:23
shtylmanum... how does one do that...21:27
cody-somervilleshtylman, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/21:34
shtylmancody-somerville: yea...I found that document... to say that it helped... well...21:34
cjwatsonshtylman: it's in the section about how maintainer scripts are called22:04
shtylmancjwatson: yea... I found the order of the parameters and whatnot.. I guess I wan't clear on just how you would check after that... if a simple query against dpkg would do... or if you meant something more complex22:13
cjwatsonyou normally use dpkg --compare-versions22:17
cjwatsonalthough actually, first-install doesn't get a version passed to it22:17
cjwatsonso in fact you'd just test [ -z "$2" ]22:17
shtylmanheh... clever :)22:18
shtylmanthanks22:18
shtylmanmy small dabble into the world of deb packages22:19
shtylmanwill hopefully end well22:19
shtylmanwhat does get me ... is that I can't seem to find a way to tell it where to put the generated debs and other files it makes... (when running debuild I mean)22:20
shtylmanmaybe I am just not looking in the right places...22:20
cjwatsonthey always go in the parent directory22:25
shtylmanand no way to influence that?22:26
cjwatsonit's not configurable, no22:26
shtylmanstrange22:26
cjwatsonsome things shouldn't be configurable22:26
shtylmanheh22:26
shtylmanlocation of generated files should be :)22:26
cjwatsonyou can always move them with a script if you really care22:26
cjwatsonthere's absolutely no point bloating the core development programs with that22:27
cjwatsonthere's a 'dcmd' program you can use to get the list of files from the .changes file if you want22:27
shtylmanheh22:27
cjwatsonbut many tools work better with them in the parent, so honestly I suggest you get used to it :)22:27
shtylmanwill have to do that... I suppose ..22:27
cjwatsonfor example if they're in the parent directory then you can invoke debc without arguments to list the contents of the thing just built22:27
cjwatsonor debi22:28
shtylmanthats kinda cool22:28
shtylmancjwatson: on a different note... what does bzr builddeb do then?22:44
shtylmancause it puts things in a different directory...22:44
shtylmanvoodoo magic?22:44
cjwatsonnot especially, it copies the source tree to a different directory and changes to that directory before starting the build22:44
shtylman:(22:45

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