[00:00] <Daviey> superm1: did you rm /work-fixes ?
[00:00] <superm1> what's that?
[00:01] <superm1> you mean the work directory for building?
[00:01] <Spanner3003> hi i have pulse audio and alsa installed on a mythbuntu system with a hauppauge nova-s sat tv card a asus m2n-e sli mothboard with onboard sound that is seen in mythbuntu as a usb device and it all seems to work fine but in myth backend i have alsa, pulse audio, /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2 but only /dev/dsp2 gives me sound in tv
[00:01] <Daviey> yeah, mythbuntu-weekly-build/work-trunk is empty - but in bzr
[00:01] <Daviey> superm1: but work-fixes isn't
[00:02] <superm1> interesting
[00:02] <superm1> was it ever?
[00:02] <Daviey> *shrug*
[00:02]  * Daviey checks
[00:02] <superm1> if it was and it was removed, that was probably an accident
[00:03] <Daviey> superm1: "bzr launchpad-open" best command ever
[00:03] <superm1> what's that?
[00:03] <superm1> i've never heard of such a command
[00:04] <superm1> oh neat, it pulls open a web browser
[00:04] <superm1> i dunno, i usually find bzr-gtk to be quick
[00:04] <Daviey> oh, you use bzr-gtk?
[00:04] <superm1> normally, it's way quicker than trying to find a commit in a web interface i think
[00:05] <superm1> at least for the things i use bzr for
[00:06] <Daviey> superm1: commit 141, i think it was an accident
[00:10] <mazda01> what does this mean from the mythweb backend status page; "space used by deleted recordings: 27,847 MB" I want to clear that space out, I am running out of space and I don't want deleted recordings taking up space
[00:11] <jolaren> If there's anyone whose good at sasc-ng and phoenix readers I'd be delighted to ask a few questions regardin it
[00:11] <Zinn> jolaren: sasc-ng is a method to ILLEGALLY receive cable or satellite broadcasts via a fake software dvb-s/c device.  It is forbidden from being discussed in #ubuntu-mythtv, #ubuntu-mythtv-dev, #mythtv-users, and #mythtv.  If you would like to learn more about it, please refer to its developers and keep any and all discussions about it there.
[00:11] <jolaren> Ok
[00:11] <jolaren> So sorry.
[00:12] <jolaren> It is not illegal tho in Sweden nor Japan.. But I will keep teh discussions out of here If It's prohibited
[01:38] <greenwom> any one on that can help with a hvr-1950 from hauppage....
[02:27] <mike1_> does bttv module mess with witth dvb?
[02:27] <mike1_> should it be blacklisted?
[02:28] <mike1_> using a Hauppauge wintv hvr-1950
[02:43] <tazz> hi all i have this error when trying to get mythexport to work  Incompatible protocol version (52 != 50) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MythTV.pm line 649. can anyone help
[02:45] <tazzmanian> hi all i have this error when trying to get mythexport to work  Incompatible protocol version (52 != 50) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MythTV.pm line 649. can anyone help
[02:46] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: your perl modules do not match the backend version you are running
[02:47] <rhpot1991> different ubuntu/mythtv versions?
[02:47] <tazzmanian> sorry for the duplicate thought my nick was invisible
[02:47] <tazzmanian> so how do i fix this
[02:48] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: well what does your mythtv setup look like, is it a single box or multiples?
[02:50] <tazzmanian> single box on  ubuntu karmic with atitv pci  card mythtv version 2.2
[02:52] <tazzmanian> mythweb works but when i delete videos the are still listed
[02:52] <tazzmanian> I have purged and reinstalled twice both mythtv and mysql and it seems problem always is there
[03:00] <rhpot1991> for your delete issue, either wait or run mythtv-setup and disable slow deletes
[03:01] <rhpot1991> are you running autobuilds?
[03:03] <tazzmanian> i don't think so
[03:04] <tazzmanian> so how do i completely delete and get the correct versions installed
[03:04] <tazzmanian> ?
[03:04] <rhpot1991> pastebin dpkg -l |grep mythtv
[03:04] <rhpot1991> !pastebin | tazzmanian
[03:04] <Zinn> tazzmanian: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[03:08] <tazzmanian> ok sorry on my screen it was 2 the rest was just entries but i will keep it in mind
[03:10] <rhpot1991> no, I'm telling you to pastebin that command
[03:10] <tazzmanian> oohhhhhhhh i see was just doing when you ansewered
[03:12] <tazzmanian> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/rWpseqsd i think this is the url
[03:38] <greenwom> Still hoping for some insight on the HVR-1950 tuner
[03:46] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: what about dpkg -l |grep libmyth-perl
[03:48] <tazzmanian> nothing i just purged everything to try and get it right
[03:48] <tgm4883> greenwom, I don't have one, so can't help much. Did you see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=994566
[03:48] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] [SOLVED] Can't Get Hauppauge hvr-1950 to install - Ubuntu Forums
[03:49] <greenwom> tgm4883: ya I have, still can't get it going....  very frustrating
[03:49] <tgm4883> greenwom, whats the full issue again?
[03:50] <tazzmanian> wait i have something
[03:50] <greenwom> can't get video out of it, I think it is a driver / firmware issue with pvrusb2
[03:51] <tazzmanian> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/dzMfB8sN here is the perl   message
[03:51] <tgm4883> greenwom, can you get video out of it outside of mythtv?
[03:51] <greenwom> not yet, looking for a easy way to test
[03:53] <greenwom> device not ok (is part of the error when trying to scan channels
[03:53] <tgm4883> hmm
[03:54] <tgm4883> what version of mythtv/mythbuntu
[03:54] <greenwom> 9.10
[03:54] <greenwom> mythbuntu\
[03:56] <greenwom> I've tried extracting the firmware myself, downloading the devs,
[04:03] <greenwom> what should I use to test.  the device shows up as /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend
[04:04] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:04] <tgm4883> I think* you might be able to cat that to a file for a bit, then try playing the file in another media player
[04:04] <tgm4883> cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend > test.mpg
[04:05] <tgm4883> something like that
[04:05] <tgm4883> then after 10 seconds, you can ctrl+c it
[04:05] <tgm4883> i'm cooking dinner, so i'm in and out for a bit
[04:12] <greenwom> invalid argument.....
[04:12] <greenwom> it does create an empty file though
[04:20] <tazzmanian> would the fact that mythexport is version 2.13 while everything else is 2.22 be a problem
[04:21] <greenwom> this is what happens when I try to watch"Error: mythtv is using all inputs, but there is no active recordings"
[04:27] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: its not a mythexport issue, your bindings are failing cause they aren't matching with the backend version
[04:27] <rhpot1991> if you purged all your mythtv packages you will need to set those backup before you can do anythign else
[04:28] <rhpot1991> and based on your last pastebin you don't have libmyth-perl or libmythtv-perl installed
[04:32] <tazzmanian> ok i reinstalled and  mythweb works but not mythexport how do i fix the bindings  here is the new url after install
[04:33] <tazzmanian> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/5rsZ3gSL
[04:34] <rhpot1991> sudo apt-get install libmyth-perl
[04:34] <greenwom>  out
[04:35] <greenwom> back in - reloaded the firmware....  still no go.  Will post my paste bin  (again HRV-1950 mythbuntu 9.10)
[04:36] <tazzmanian> rhpot1991 it is installed when i reinstalled just tried again
[04:37] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: so restart mythexport then, sudo /etc/init.d/mythexport restart
[04:39] <tazzmanian> No /usr/bin/perl found running; none killed. is what i got
[04:39] <greenwom> http://pastebin.com/jcCf3ygQ
[04:40] <greenwom> let me know if there's any help  (have to run to a baby please email if you have an idea mjgreenwood at gmail d0t com
[04:40] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: sounds right, wasn't an instance running so it didn't kill one, it should have still spawned a new one
[04:40] <tazzmanian> and status says mythexport isn't running
[04:41] <rhpot1991> status where?
[04:42] <tazzmanian> sudo /etc/init.d/mythexport status and apache error log gives me the same error incompatible protocol as earlier
[04:52] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/gDDCchT0
[04:53] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: run that and see what happens
[04:58] <tazzmanian> how do i run that
[04:59] <tazzmanian> allot of not found
[04:59] <rhpot1991> paste it into a file
[04:59] <rhpot1991> chmod +x the file
[05:00] <rhpot1991> then run it from a terminal
[05:01] <tazzmanian> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/YJS6GtFc here are the errors
[05:03] <rhpot1991> you prob coppied it with the numbers from pastebin, you don't want those
[05:06] <tazzmanian> ttp://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ECdT6YM6
[05:06] <tazzmanian> seems similar errors
[05:09] <tazzmanian> added the bin bash perl and first two lines missing
[05:09] <tazzmanian> same errors
[05:10] <rhpot1991> wget http://www.baablogic.net/mythbuntu/test.pl
[05:10] <Zinn> [www.baablogic.net]
[05:10] <tazzmanian> ok had to command perl first here is the text
[05:10] <tazzmanian> Incompatible protocol version (52 != 50) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MythTV.pm line 649.
[05:10] <tazzmanian> Couldn't connect to MythTV. at /home/tazz/perlscriptttry line 18.
[05:15] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: you have run mythfrontend on this computer and it connects to the backend properly?
[05:16] <tazzmanian> yes
[05:16] <tazzmanian> i whatch and record
[05:16] <tazzmanian> only analog channel scanning doesn't work
[05:16] <rhpot1991> run: locate MythTV.pm
[05:17] <tazzmanian> nothing
[05:17] <rhpot1991> run: sudo find / -name MythTV.pm
[05:19] <tazzmanian> it's going through the whole drive
[05:22] <tazzmanian> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/Yur3ndie     here is the output
[05:25] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: is this a fresh install, or upgraded box?
[05:25] <tazzmanian> upgraded
[05:27] <rhpot1991> thats prob the issue here you should just have the following:
[05:27] <rhpot1991> /usr/share/perl5/MythTV.pm
[05:27] <rhpot1991> /usr/share/perl5/IO/Socket/INET/MythTV.pm
[05:29] <rhpot1991> the others are most likely left over from the past install, go ahead rename them to MythTV.pm_bak or something
[05:29] <rhpot1991> then run that test script again
[05:34] <tazzmanian> ok got connected
[05:34] <rhpot1991> that fixed it?
[05:35] <tazzmanian> yes thabk you so much
[05:35] <tazzmanian> yes thank you so much
[05:37] <rhpot1991> tazzmanian: please open up a bug and describe your upgrade then
[05:38] <tazzmanian> where do i open the bug and describe it
[05:45] <tazzmanian> ok i reseubmitted to my bug on launchpad and enetered fix
[06:34] <red_one> hi, i'm booting from a cd, after i select "try mythbuntu" the cd drive goes and the Hdd goes but no scrolly bar like ubuntu, stays at first menu. is this normal?
[06:42] <red_one> hm, hdmi issue?
[07:34] <red_one> hm
[07:34] <red_one> if i boot from a livecd
[07:34] <red_one> can i start watching tv quickly?
[07:34] <red_one> or do ined to install backends etc?
[10:07] <Guest88941> anyone good with diskless
[10:07] <Guest88941> tring to install nvidia drivers on karmic diskless system
[10:31] <Guest88941> attempting to install nvidia drivers on diskless client
[10:31] <Guest88941> I need some help
[12:35] <Shred00> i wonder why even in the latest fixes, mythvideo installs a jamu cron job on every front end.  surely this is work for the backend, no?
[14:28] <Jay2k1> Hi again, another thing for http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds -> FAQ -> The builds still aren't working
[14:28] <Jay2k1> it says, please file a bug on launchpad, launchpad being a link, but it's invisible (color:white in the span style tag)
[15:00] <mrand> Jay2k1: thanks.  Just to be sure, you aren't saying that they are broken - just that the text is unreadable, right?
[15:01] <Jay2k1> tbh I didnt test, sec
[15:01] <Jay2k1> works
[15:02] <Jay2k1> so yes, just unreadable due to white on white
[15:10] <Lizard123> Hello, I'm having file size issues, 2GB per minute, sometimes 1.5GB of space disk. I think that's too much for a recording of 5 minutes a files at above 10GB
[15:11] <Lizard123> I'm using a TV analog capture card
[15:44] <Lizard123> !patience
[15:44] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about patience
[15:44] <Lizard123> !help
[15:44] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[15:45] <rhpot1991> Lizard123: what kind of tuner?
[15:46] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: TV Card Kworld using "saa" driver
[15:47] <rhpot1991> can't say I'm familiar with that card, check your recording profiles and maybe turn down the bitrates
[15:50] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: thanks, how could I do that? I'm really a noob, I'm using a default installation of Karmic mythbuntu9.10
[15:50] <rhpot1991> Lizard123: its in the setup menu of your frontend
[15:51] <rhpot1991> I forget the exact location
[15:53] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: do you consider that 2GB/min using an analog TV card input source is normal? I've asked on mythtv and they told me I'm using a framegrabber, I don't know what it is. Also they have told me to ask help here to upgrade, could it be a bug?
[15:54] <rhpot1991> that seems excessive to me, but I've never used a framegrabber before so
[15:56] <Lizard123> I really want this to work. Could you recommend any card that can record input from cable not being so resource intensive?
[15:58] <rhpot1991> Lizard123: well analog is tricky at this point, since it is disappearing quickly, and a lot of the analog cards are no longer made
[15:58] <rhpot1991> you could look for a hauppauge pvr-xxx (150,350,500) on ebay
[15:59] <mrand> or if you want external, PVR-USB2 also works well (is what I bought off ebay)
[16:01] <Lizard123> I don't know what's normal on mythtv and what is not. For an hour of recording of TV show, how much space is written? please
[16:03] <rhpot1991> Lizard123: SD or HD?
[16:05] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: HD(High definition) ?
[16:05] <rhpot1991> ya
[16:05] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: well, definition in my case never minds
[16:07] <Lizard123> that would be SD I guess
[16:07] <rhpot1991> SD will run you about 2-4gb an hour last I checked, HD will run you 8gb an hour or so
[16:08] <Lizard123> rhpot1991: that is reasonable to me, but why I have 2GB/min? I'll try with Hauppage PVR
[16:09] <rhpot1991> Lizard123: I'd have to guess either something weird with your framegrabber or your bitrates are too high
[16:10] <mrand> Lizard123: If it is doing framegrabbing without video compression, I can't say 2GB/min surprises me.  Most capture cards now-a-days do compression.
[16:10] <rhpot1991> ya I've never used a framegrabber so I really don't know
[16:11] <Lizard123> mrand: could I use one of that cards in my case? I only have a coaxial cable, not digital television or anything above that
[16:12] <mrand> Lizard123: are you in the USA?    Are you capturing directly from cable, or do you have a set-top box?
[16:13] <Lizard123> not in USA, just a cable male coaxial that you insert behind TV, sorry but I'm not that expert
[16:15] <Lizard123> mrand: not in USA, just a cable male coaxial that you insert behind TV, sorry but I'm not that expert
[16:15] <mrand> I'd look into one of the cards that rhpot1991 mention, or the PVR-USB2.  There are  numerous others that would probably work well also.  What you're looking for is one that has a built-in encoder (typically MPEG2).
[16:16] <Lizard123> mrand: thanks for helping me.
[16:17] <Lizard123> I really appreciate your help guys
[16:18] <mrand> You're welcome!
[16:22] <Lizard123> I'll try Hauppage and report back, thanks again an good bye.
[17:30] <jolaren> Hello. I cannot find any channels when I perform a search
[17:31] <jolaren> It has always worked before but I reinstalled 5 minutes ago
[17:31] <jolaren> and I really dont know what's wrong
[17:33] <jolaren> I'm updating the system now hoping it will work
[17:33] <jolaren> ,/
[17:34] <rhpot1991> jolaren: analog?
[17:34] <jolaren> rhpot1991: It's digital terrestial I think
[17:34] <jolaren> dvb-t
[17:35] <rhpot1991> I know that analog channel scanning is broken, sounds like thats not the issue though
[17:35] <jolaren> That might be teh issue tho
[17:35] <jolaren> I only have free channels atm
[17:36] <jolaren> but I guess analog is never from an antenna?
[17:36] <superm1> analog is actually fixed now in trunk w/ current autobuilds
[17:38] <jolaren> I'm not running the autobuilds yet tho
[17:39] <jolaren> but I am running the latest version of mythbuntu
[17:43] <jolaren> I think I know the problem now
[17:43] <jolaren> I'm running the xmltv thing and it says tv_grab_uk in the termianl but I'm from Sweden
[17:56] <jolaren> Anyways, reinstalling now
[17:56] <jolaren> This time I picked PAL-B instead of 1080p under the nvidia
[18:01] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I've got a mythbuntu installation here, and after rebooting a while back, it just flat refuses to login anymore.
[18:02] <Digital_Pioneer> I selected the user, put in the password, and the screen flashes a few times and it drops me back to GDM.
[18:20] <jolaren> Now I can view my channels but the picture is quite bad if I compare to what it was
[18:21] <jolaren> Nvm, easy fix.
[18:21] <jolaren> Didnt have vdpau in settings
[18:23] <jolaren> Program guide is still unknown all thew ay
[18:24] <jolaren> way
[18:24] <jolaren> What could be wrong?
[18:24] <jolaren> gosh
[18:26] <gregl> It will be unless you enter the xtmltvid or are using a listing source..
[18:39] <Spanner3003> hi i have pulse audio and alsa installed on a mythbuntu system with a hauppauge nova-s sat tv card a asus m2n-e sli mothboard with onboard sound that is seen in mythbuntu as a usb device and it all seems to work fine but in myth backend i have alsa, pulse audio, /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2 but only /dev/dsp2 gives me sound in tv
[18:40] <Spanner3003> hi is mheg working in mythtv yet?
[18:43] <mrand> Spanner3003: watch http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8143
[18:43] <Zinn> [svn.mythtv.org] #8143 (MHEG not working) – MythTV
[18:45] <Spanner3003> ok thanks mrand
[18:53] <Digital_Pioneer> I cannot log in from GDM anymore, it just drops me back to GDM; but if I login from CLI and run startx, it works fine. Any ideas? :\
[18:53] <superm1> look at the gdm logs
[18:53] <superm1> /var/log/gdm or so
[18:54] <superm1> and ~/.xsession-errors after a failed login
[18:57] <Digital_Pioneer> superm1: :0-greeter.log has "gnome-session[2191]: WARNING: Could not launch application 'metacity.desktop': Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "metacity" (No such file or directory)
[18:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Would that cause it?
[18:57] <superm1> not likely
[18:59] <Digital_Pioneer> superm1: That's the only log that appears out of sorts...
[19:00] <jolaren> I can't get my program listing to work
[19:00] <jolaren> It's just UNKNOWN everywhere
[19:01] <jolaren> What can I do?
[19:02] <Digital_Pioneer> jolaren: Did you enter the xtmltvid? (I'm just quoting gregl from above) :P
[19:04] <Digital_Pioneer> superm1: xsession-errors has nothing interesting either.
[19:04] <Digital_Pioneer> superm1: Just some griping about bash_completion
[19:04] <superm1> Digital_Pioneer, are you out of space by chance?
[19:04] <superm1> df -h
[19:04] <superm1> i've heard that can cause gdm problems
[19:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Not by a long shot.
[19:04] <Digital_Pioneer>  / has 60G free.
[19:06] <Digital_Pioneer> Is there something I can reinstall? :P
[19:07] <superm1> well until you can find where there is an error happening, not really sure what to tell you to reinstall
[19:07] <jolaren> Digital_Pioneer: I guess I msised his point then.. xtmltvid id?
[19:07] <Digital_Pioneer> jolaren: I have no idea what it means. :D
[19:07] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, I know. :( :(
[19:08] <jolaren> It has always "just worked" before
[19:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Join the club.
[19:10] <jolaren> Are you havin the same problems lad?
[19:10] <Digital_Pioneer> No, my gdm is screwed up.
[19:12]  * Digital_Pioneer throws gdm off a cliff and installs kdm, which just works.
[19:13] <rhpot1991> jolaren: you need to set up some source, the listings don't just magically get data
[19:13] <rhpot1991> here in the US we used schedules direct for that, dunno what you would use otherwise
[19:13] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I want to set up a system where I have several mythboxes all streaming content from a central server, and be able to control what media is playing on what box from some a laptop. Is that feasible? :D
[19:14] <rhpot1991> Digital_Pioneer: kinda, you can VNC into each box to do things
[19:14] <Digital_Pioneer> Eeeeh, dirty... :\
[19:15] <rhpot1991> you could make the laptop act as a remote control as well
[19:15] <rhpot1991> and then control the other boxes one by one
[19:16] <Digital_Pioneer> That would work. How would you make a laptop think it's a remote control?
[19:17] <jolaren> rhpot1991: ofc
[19:18] <jolaren> rhpot1991: I have
[19:22] <jolaren> rhpot1991: Tried the sweden lister then the EIT lister
[19:22] <jolaren> none gives me anything but UNKNOWN bla bla
[19:22] <rhpot1991> no idea on that, check in #mythtv-users maybe
[19:24] <mrand> Digital_Pioneer: there are multiple python, tcl, and other pieces of software which allow you to remotely control a frontend via the telnet port.  Hold on, I'll find the page.
[19:24] <mrand> Digital_Pioneer:  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Telnet_socket
[19:24] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Telnet socket - MythTV
[19:32] <jolaren> Any known issues atm with the Swedish listing?
[20:10] <tgm4883> mrand, Digital_Pioneer you can do that in mythweb
[20:11] <tgm4883> there is keyboard input built into mythweb to control the frontends
[20:17] <mrand> tgm4883: is there still?  I couldn't find it last time I looked.
[20:18] <Digital_Pioneer> tgm4883: OK, thanks. Will look into it. :)
[20:18] <mrand> tgm4883: Digital_Pioneer  doh.  It's on the front page of mythweb.  My bookmark takes me past that.
[20:18] <tgm4883> mrand, Digital_Pioneer http://backendip/mythweb/remote/keys
[20:19] <Digital_Pioneer> tgm4883: No such server?...
[20:19] <mrand> Digital_Pioneer: your machine is probably not named backendip
[20:19] <mrand> at least, mine isn't ;-)
[20:20]  * tgm4883 smacks head
[20:21] <mrand> Of course, that is a raw keyboard.  It would be much nicer if there were a remote shaped thingie there with pause, record, etc.  /me adds to the laundry list of things to do someday.
[20:24] <rhpot1991> I name all my machines backendip
[20:25] <Digital_Pioneer> Ahhh, yes, no TLD on that hostname is there? :)
[20:26] <Digital_Pioneer> *facedesk*
[21:04] <Digital_Pioneer> tgm4883, mrand: OK, so if I install mythweb on the backend, I can control the frontends over the network?...
[21:08] <Chris_confused> Hi all, did a stupid thing of running the nvidia .run installer.
[21:08] <Chris_confused> it removed my mythtv install.
[21:08] <Chris_confused> i've been reading on the forums but no real definit answers on how to get mythtv back. i install autobuilds but still no mythtv
[21:08] <Chris_confused> can anyone help?
[21:09] <tgm4883> Digital_Pioneer, yes
[21:10] <tgm4883> Chris_confused, did you try apt-get install mythtv?
[21:10] <tgm4883> although it would actually be mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend I believe
[21:10] <tgm4883> I would use MCC to get what you want installed
[21:11] <Digital_Pioneer> tgm4883: And if it says "No frontends allowe remote control" on the remote page?...
[21:12] <Chris_confused> didn't try the apt-get route. will try that now and get back. i was just scared of removing my db and customized themes etc..
[21:15] <Chris_confused> cheers lads. that brilliant. wow, it was that a simple.
[21:15] <tgm4883> Chris_confused, you verified it worked?
[21:15] <Chris_confused> Seriously thanks a bunch i was sweating here for the last hour or so, though a total re-install.
[21:15] <Chris_confused> it work great
[21:15] <tgm4883> Digital_Pioneer, there is probably a setting on the frontend to activate it. I'll have to check though
[21:16] <Chris_confused> "apt-get install mythtv" was the answer
[21:17] <Chris_confused> that will teach me to be more careful in future. once again thanks
[21:22] <mrand> tgm4883, Digital_Pioneer, I believe either in mythtv-setup or the frontend setup, there is an "enable telnet port" type setting.
[21:24] <rhpot1991> ya you need to enable telnet control
[21:28] <Digital_Pioneer> rhpot1991: Do you do that on the frontend or backend?
[21:41] <rhpot1991> frontend I think
[21:52] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I told it to enable the telnet port on 6546, but it ignored me. Do I have to restart something?
[21:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Blasted thing _will not_ open that port... 6547 is open...
[21:57] <Digital_Pioneer> But it's set to use 6546
[22:04] <Digital_Pioneer> *Sigh* I can't figure out how to turn the cursed thing on.
[22:09] <rhpot1991> did you restart the frontend after the change?
[22:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah
[22:10] <Digital_Pioneer> Many, _many_ times.
[22:12] <Digital_Pioneer> Should be able to just run `telnet frontendip 6546` and type help and it should tell me my possible commands, yes?
[22:18] <tgm4883> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Telnet_socket
[22:18] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Telnet socket - MythTV
[22:19] <tgm4883> Digital_Pioneer, that page also has some info on other "remotes" you can install to your desktop to control your mytthv
[22:23] <Digital_Pioneer> tgm4883: That's the page I've been working from, but all those remotes use the telnet interface, no? So unless I get that iface going, it's useless.
[22:23] <Digital_Pioneer> Anyways, there's always the VNC approach.
[22:27] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I'll fight this further later. :\