[00:00] <Volkswagner> makes two of us.  Perhaps because I was mentioning networking via cli
[00:00] <MTecknology> sounds like it could be a bug though
[00:00] <MTecknology> apport-bug dhclient  maybe?
[00:01] <Volkswagner> since dhclient is working, would't the issue be with the version of debian-installer?
[00:02] <MTecknology> I'm not sure, I think my mind is going too many places to give you any decent help though. I'm sorry
[00:04] <Volkswagner> debian5 installer has no issue, Ubuntu 8.04 see's the card/interface, but has issues with hard disk recognition.  A bug which was fixed in 8.10 or 9.10
[00:12] <MTecknology> Volkswagner: If you can track it down to one package I'd definitely file a bug against it - sorry that I can't help you more. You could go back into #ubuntu and if they say to come back here tell them we said no :)
[00:16] <agentk> I have a kvm guest that reports 66% of 492mb ram used. Yet ps aux output only adds up to 7.6%. What should I search for to get to to bottom of it?
[00:19] <MTecknology> agentk: kvm on the host is saying that the guest is using 66% of its allocated 492mb ram; and the guest itself says it's only using 7.6% of its allocated 492MB ram?
[00:20] <agentk> No. This is directly from the guest.
[00:20] <MTecknology> hm?
[00:21] <agentk> free -m: total 492: -/+ buffers/cache:        326        165
[00:21] <MTecknology> oh
[00:22] <MTecknology> I don't have the answer, just curious if maybe you were looking at two different numbers
[00:22] <agentk> no prob
[00:24] <agentk> free -m reports  326mb used. Adding up all the rss columns in ps -A -o pid,rss,command reports 49mb used. Ramdisk usage: 68kb. Not sure where else to look.
[00:26] <MTecknology> agentk: could you pastebin free -m?
[00:28] <MTecknology> just so I can see all of it in pretty columns and swap
[00:28] <agentk> http://pastebin.com/giJzE3zd
[00:29] <agentk> Am I misunderstanding it?
[00:29] <MTecknology> agentk: your ps total equals your buffers
[00:30] <MTecknology> agentk: I think your misunderstandind the ps output
[00:30] <MTecknology> I don't use ps enough to help with that
[00:31] <agentk> Ok. How would you recommend finding what is using the most memory?
[00:31] <MTecknology> top
[00:32] <MTecknology> then ">" will bring you to sorted by memory usage
[00:34] <agentk> Which column should I look at in top? The %MEM column still only adds up to the 49mb.
[00:41] <MTecknology> agentk: ya, no idea why..
[00:44] <agentk> Not a prob. Thanks for your input.
[00:47] <MTecknology> agentk: sorry I couldn't help more - somebody in here should come along
[00:47] <MTecknology> just most peoples weekend now
[00:47] <agentk> Oh yeah. I forget about that being in australia.
[00:48] <agentk> I've just found that removing ureadahead and rebooting has corrected most of the output. Will try reinstalling and removing it again.
[00:52] <agentk> Ouch. Reinstalling ureadahead hides chews an additional 50% of the memory. Memory actually gone! Not just buffered.
[00:57] <MTecknology> agentk: perhaps no readahead?
[00:59] <hans67521> hi i am busy building my own ubuntu distro
[00:59] <hans67521> i am stuck with an installer
[01:00] <hans67521> the system has no gui
[01:00] <hans67521> any ideas how to get a system installer
[01:05] <agentk> MTecknology: Yip. Removed it off all the servers now. Now to track down how it got installed.
[01:05] <hans67521> where can i get the ubuntu-text installer files
[01:29] <persia> hans67521: Why do you need your own distribution?  Are there changes you need that would be unsuitable for others?
[02:04] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way I can set up ubuntu to give a system beep when the machine reaches the login prompt?
[02:05] <AtomicSpark> The answer is yes!
[02:06] <GhostFreeman> ok, how can I do it? I've got this machine sitting next to me and I want to access it using ssh over fighting with monitor cables
[02:06] <AtomicSpark> I assume you only have ubuntu-server installed?
[02:06] <GhostFreeman> Yes
[02:07] <AtomicSpark> See this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1247451
[02:08] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[02:08] <AtomicSpark> Ignore the last post. That person is silly for being in old ways. :P
[02:09] <GhostFreeman> lol
[02:09] <AtomicSpark> Same people that troll GDM and think gnome should be ran as the current user.
[02:11] <AtomicSpark> Anyone famiular with the directories inside /var/lib/libvirt?
[02:14] <AtomicSpark> GhostFreeman: congrats. you've brought to the attention that my pc speaker doesnt work in lucid.
[02:14] <GhostFreeman> i'm afriad the same for mine as well
[02:14] <AtomicSpark> You're running lucid?
[02:14] <GhostFreeman> no, 8.04 LTS
[02:15] <GhostFreeman> that's the latest LTS right?
[02:15] <AtomicSpark> Maybe the beep command doesnt work.
[02:15] <persia> man beep
[02:15] <AtomicSpark> Yes, that's the current released LTS. Next one will be April 29th.
[02:15] <GhostFreeman> wouldn't know haven't tried it
[02:15] <persia> It doesn't just make a sound on the PC Speaker.
[02:17] <AtomicSpark> Cute. Even has the listed notes. You could play a song!
[02:18] <AtomicSpark> Now to figure out why I am not getting output. I shall check bios settings.
[03:29] <lifeless> kirkland: heh, my dns/dhcpd server now has uec sc/cc/walrus/nc on it
[03:29] <lifeless> kirkland: fixing some teething issues, but pretty straightforward so far.
[03:30] <kirkland> lifeless: neat
[03:30] <lifeless> with lucid fwiw
[04:22] <adelie42> hello, trying to setup my computer as a gateway. I have firestarter installed. I have active internet. the client is getting an ip address via dhcp, but can not ping either direction, no addresses resolve on client. I am lost as what do do next.
[04:26] <adelie42> hello ChmEarl!
[04:31] <ChmEarl> adelie42, hey
[05:08] <persia> Anyone happen to know how well qemu/kvm works for amd64 guests in an i386 environment (where the chip doesn't support x86_64) ?
[05:37] <ChmEarl> persia,  type >sudo qemu-system-x86_64 --help   do you get anything but err?
[05:38] <persia> ChmEarl: I don't have any devices that have a processor that lets me test, unfortunately.
[05:38] <ChmEarl> get some or kvm is /dev/null
[05:39] <persia> Hrm?
[05:40] <ChmEarl> you can do some testing with qemu kqemu to get a feel for the whole thing in absence of HVM
[05:41] <persia> If I launch qemu on a x86_64 system telling it to be 32-bit, and try to run a 64-bit guest, is that a valid test?
[05:42] <ChmEarl> you have one layer too many
[05:42] <ChmEarl> on x86_64 system qemu is 32 bit and qemu-system-x86_64 is 64 bit
[05:43] <persia> RIght.  What I want to know is whether qemu-system-x86_64 works properly on a 32-bit processor.
[05:43] <ChmEarl> let me see...
[05:45] <ChmEarl> well this box is i686 and qemu-sustem-x86_64 exists and runs without err
[05:45] <persia> Does the processor support x86_64 extensions?
[05:46] <ChmEarl> oh yes it does... good ques
[05:46] <persia> That's what makes it hard to test for me :)  I don't have the processor to be sure I'm not working around a bug.
[05:46] <ChmEarl> so the box is bit capable, but this install is 32 bit
[05:46] <ChmEarl> 64 bit capabe
[05:48] <ChmEarl> I have an old 32 bit notebook with no lm ability, and I run qemu (32 bit) fine
[05:48] <persia> Can you run qemu (64 bit) on that?
[05:48] <ChmEarl> never tried.. cause I only do quickie tests - no permanent installs
[05:49] <persia> If you get a chance to test sometime, and you can let me know, I'd appreciate it.  No real rush.
[05:50] <ChmEarl> BTW its intel single core so 100% sure that qemu has way to do 64 bit over there
[05:50] <ChmEarl> no way
[05:53] <persia> Well, I know I can run qemu-arm on a single-core x86_64 box.  It really just depends on how the qemu x86_64 stuff is implemented.
[05:53]  * persia isn't cool enough to understand from the code
[07:49] <Jeeves_> Mogge!
[08:16] <Err404NotFound> can someone tell me why this (http://pastebin.com/keRbL654) isn't allowing telnet in port 25? i am totally lost
[08:29] <jiboumans> good morning
[08:43] <mealstrom> Err404NotFound: check MTA configuration if iptables is ok.
[08:44] <Err404NotFound> mealstrom, i can telnet locally, thats fine, so mta allow, something has to do with iptables
[08:46] <mealstrom> Err404NotFound: can you telnet 80 port?
[08:46] <Err404NotFound> mealstrom, got it... i must define my ips in rcpthosts of qmail...
[08:53] <_ruben> rcpthosts lists domains, not ips
[08:56] <eekeek> Verizon DynamicDNS zoneedit setup with virtual hosts keeps pointing to the 000-default site rather then the one I want /etc/apache2/sties-enabled/domain. Anyone ever have this problem?
[09:12] <FireCrotch> eekeek: does sites-enabled/domain contain a ServerName line containing the domain name that you're trying to use?
[09:13] <eekeek> FireCrotch: yes the ServerName is there.
[09:13] <FireCrotch> eekeek: and I assume you've reloaded apache's configuration since enabling the site?
[09:13] <eekeek> yep.
[09:14] <eekeek> I think it might have something to do with the listening port.
[09:14] <eekeek> Verizon blocks port 80
[09:14] <FireCrotch> Oh yeah, that'll cause problems. what port are you trying to use instead?
[09:14] <eekeek> at least on non-biz accounts.
[09:14] <eekeek> 8080
[09:15] <eekeek> so i think i'm just configured wrong with where and what i'm listening on.
[09:15] <FireCrotch> Can you pastebin your sites-enabled/domain file?
[09:16] <eekeek> pastebin - ? I'm still new to IRC and LAMP
[09:16] <persia> !paste
[09:17] <eekeek> I see. Unfortunately I'm on a different computer right now.
[09:18] <FireCrotch> Are you able to ssh to the web server?
[09:18] <eekeek> But in my /sites-enabled/domain file it starts <VirtualHost *:8080>
[09:19] <eekeek> FireCrotch: I have much to learn (and I'm trying). I don't even know what ssh is yet.
[09:20] <FireCrotch> I see.  ssh is the secure shell protocol, it lets you remotely login to a machine
[09:20] <eekeek> I see.
[09:21] <eekeek> I don't know if this needs to be changed but the ports.conf file is Listen on 80 and NameVirtualHost *:80
[09:21] <FireCrotch> You may be having problems if you don't have NameVirtualHost in your configuration
[09:22] <FireCrotch> ports.conf should have listen on 8080 and namevirtualhost *
[09:22] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Ok I'll give that a tyr.
[09:25] <eekeek> Upon apache reload: error VirtualHost *:80 mixing ports and non-* ports wit a NameVirualHost.....
[09:30] <FireCrotch> eekeek: I think changing the NameVirtualHost *:8080 will resolve that
[09:33] <eekeek> FireCrotch: I seem to be missing something. upon reload [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80
[09:33] <eekeek> Does there need to NameVirtualHost in the /sites-enabled/domain file?
[09:34] <eekeek> or only in the ports.conf
[09:34] <FireCrotch> eekeek: No, you don't need it the domain file
[09:34] <eekeek> k.
[09:35] <eekeek> There wasn't one, just wanted to double check.
[09:35] <FireCrotch> eekeek: Oh I think that [warn] may be because there's a virtualhost on port 80 defined, but no namevirtualhost for port 80 defined.  Add NameVirtualHost *:80 also to the ports.conf
[09:36] <eekeek> k
[09:38] <eekeek> FireCrotch: well no errors upon reload, but no luck establishing a connection with the server now.
[09:40] <FireCrotch> eekeek: Is this going to be the only domain you're hosting on the server?
[09:41] <FireCrotch> If so, you may be better off just setting the 000-default to listen on port 8080
[09:42] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Yes, for my learning it could be, but it would be nice to beable to have more than one.
[09:44] <FireCrotch> eekeek: Alright, let's see if I can straighten this out then :)
[09:45] <eekeek> FireCrotch: awesome :)
[09:45] <FireCrotch> eekeek: ports.conf should have NameVirtualHost *:80, NameVirtualHost *:8080, Listen 80, Listen 8080
[09:45] <FireCrotch> separate lines, of course
[09:46] <eekeek> FireCrotch: ah we are missing a Listen 80. I'll give that a shot.
[09:47] <FireCrotch> eekeek: sites-enabled/domain should have <VirtualHost *:8080> and ServerName yourdomain.com
[09:48] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Ok ports.conf looks good and sites-enabled/domain looks good to.
[09:48] <eekeek> FireCrotch: hmm still taking me to the 000-default site.
[09:50] <eekeek> FireCrotch: just a random guess, but should I change 000-default to <VirtualHost *:8080> as well?
[09:51] <FireCrotch> No, that won't solve the problem.  you do have sites-enabled/domain pointing to a different document root than 000-default has, right?
[09:52] <eekeek> FireCrotch: yep, just double check. It points to /var/www/domain/
[09:55] <eekeek> FireCrotch: I found this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851313 - and skunkbad says something about 'symlink' ?
[09:56] <FireCrotch> eekeek: are you sure that we're working with the file sites-enabled/domain and not sites-available/domain?
[09:57] <eekeek> FireCrotch: yep, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/domain
[09:58] <FireCrotch> in that thread, he's just recommending that you have the actual files in sites-available and put a symlink (basically a shortcut) to it in sites-enabled. but since you have the file in sites-enabled, that's not necessary
[09:59] <eekeek> FireCrotch: k
[10:02] <FireCrotch> eekeek: alright, let's take a look at /var/log/apache2/access.log
[10:02] <FireCrotch> specifically at the end of it
[10:02] <eekeek> k
[10:04] <FireCrotch> hm that's probably actually not going to tell me anything useful lol
[10:04] <FireCrotch> um
[10:04] <eekeek> FireCrotch: wow lol
[10:05] <eekeek> I wouldn't even know where to begin with all those lines.
[10:05] <FireCrotch> in the sites-enabled directory, do this: unlink 000-default
[10:06] <FireCrotch> then restart apache and see if things work properly
[10:06] <eekeek> FireCrotch: and how might one go about 'unlinking' the 000-default file?
[10:07] <FireCrotch> type exactly what I typed
[10:07] <eekeek> FireCrotch: k
[10:12] <eekeek> FireCrotch: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[10:13] <FireCrotch> eekeek: I figured it would give you that :) does the site work now properly on port 8080?
[10:14] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Are you saying change from 80 to 8080 on one of the files? OR like www.domain.com:8080 ?
[10:15] <FireCrotch> www.domain.com:8080
[10:15] <FireCrotch> does that work?
[10:15] <eekeek> FireCrotch: www.domain.com:8080 takes me to the router login page.
[10:16] <eekeek> FireCrotch: www.domain.com "Not Found" Apache blah blha blha Port 80
[10:17] <FireCrotch> I've had that problem before - it would send me to the router's login page instead of the web server haha
[10:17] <FireCrotch> what is the domain that you're using?
[10:18] <eekeek> nfotown.com
[10:19] <FireCrotch> ok, http://nfotown.com  takes me to a 404 Not Found page.  Is the directory that it's pointing to empty?
[10:19] <FireCrotch> also, I thought you said that your ISP blocked incoming port 80
[10:20] <eekeek> FireCrotch: nope, there is an index.html file in there
[10:20] <eekeek> FireCrotch: it is my understanding verizon does block port 80
[10:20] <FireCrotch> verizon is most certainly not blocking port 80
[10:20] <eekeek> would that page suggest otherwise?
[10:21] <FireCrotch> when I go to http://www.nfotown.com, I get a plain HTML page with www.nfotown.com inside an <h2> on it
[10:21] <FireCrotch> www.nfotown.com:8080 and nfotown.com:8080 both refuse the connection
[10:22] <FireCrotch> So it appears to me that you're not going to need to have apache on 8080
[10:22] <FireCrotch> you can do everything on port 80 just fine
[10:23] <eekeek> FireCrotch: strange the index file has a <h3>NFOtown.com</h3>
[10:23] <eekeek> FireCrotch: ok i'll try removing all of the 8080
[10:23] <FireCrotch> so your ports.conf should just have Listen 80 and NameVirtualHost *:80
[10:25] <eekeek> FireCrotch: It works :)
[10:26] <FireCrotch> Great
[10:26] <eekeek> FireCrotch: sry for the bad info on the ports :(
[10:26] <FireCrotch> eekeek: oh, it's okay :)
[10:27] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Thanks for sticking with me on this one. :)
[10:28] <FireCrotch> eekeek: you're welcome :) if you have any other problems, feel free to highlight me here and if I'm around I'll try to help ya out :)
[10:29] <eekeek> FireCrotch: awesome. I'm going to now try making another virtualhost to test to see if that works right - fingers crossed.
[10:29] <FireCrotch> good luck :)
[11:17] <eekeek> FireCrotch: Success with the second domain! :) Thanks again. I learned some good stuff. Have a good one!
[11:18] <FireCrotch> eekeek: Glad I could help!
[12:15] <jayvee> in libvirt, I get all these iptables rules added on bootup to my virbr0 interface that I don't want
[12:16] <jayvee> I think it's related to the fact that I can only choose "isolated virtual network" or "forwarding to device with NAT" as my network options
[12:16] <jayvee> In actual fact, I want neither. I want a plain virbr0 interface that libvirt doesn't add iptables rules to — access control, NAT, or otherwise.
[12:16] <jayvee> but I don't see a way to configure that.
[12:16] <jayvee> any ideas?
[12:17] <nicknewbie> http://pastie.org/859350 -- This is a multiwan script I'm working on, based on the info on this page http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html -- I'm trying to take these instructions, and turn them into a script that can just be edited with the right variables to give multiwan setup. I think it would be good for the community, but I do need some help, can someone take a quick look?
[12:18] <jMCg> Hello happy people.
[12:20] <jMCg> I was wondering how realistic it is to get a few ``wishes'' implemented in Ubuntu that deviate from Debian's ways...
[12:20] <jMCg> The reason I'm considering to throw things at Ubuntu, rather than at Debian is that I've known Debian's slow ways, and they tend to be.. slow.
[12:22] <persia> jMCg: Deviations are possible.  This would be a bad time to push them (unless they fix critical bugs), as Ubuntu is nearing release freeze.
[12:22] <persia> Coordination with Debian is generally preferred though.
[12:23] <jMCg> persia: I've already heard that it's close to freeze -- I didn't expect to be this fast with Ubuntu either ;)
[12:23] <jMCg> Here's an example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/12296
[12:23] <jMCg> My suggestion is to simplify the whole she-bang by merging all mpm packages into one package as Fedora for instance does.
[12:25] <persia> That's unlikely to be addressed.  PHP4 went EOL 2007-07-13
[12:26] <jMCg> persia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/12296/comments/11
[12:26] <persia> Ah, then the description needs some work.
[12:26] <jMCg> That's probably the easiest part...
[12:27] <jMCg> I've been much considering to pester Stefan Fritsch directly.. but don't know how to approach him yet.
[12:27] <persia> But if you find a good way to solve the issue, and submit code, it can be reviewed.  I suspect it's unlikely to get added during the freeze, but potentially for the next cycle (but I don't make these decisions, so am not authoritative)
[12:29] <jMCg> I see. So, if I come forward with a set of debian/rules thingies, everybody will be perfectly happy.
[12:30] <jMCg> I should've known this means work for me.
[12:31] <persia> Who itches, scratches :)
[12:33] <jMCg> Yeah.. I know, I know... I just thought I'd go to the doc, and he'll say: Put this cream on the itch and it'll go away. Or, Putheth thees leech on yer skin, and leteth it suck yer greezy and heretic blood! or something like that.
[12:35] <persia> heh
[12:44] <mealstrom> hi, where is better to post some suggestions about packege debian-installer/preseed ?
[13:01] <Noble> Is there a way to pull mail off a POP server, and somehow store it locally (In a database or something)?
[13:02] <persia> Lots of them :)
[13:02] <persia> fetchmail is widely recommended for the pull (although there are other options).
[13:03] <persia> The storage depends on your preference.  Pushing it into some local mailserver is a common approach.
[13:04] <Noble> Is it possible to configure fetchmail to push the mail into MySQL?
[13:05] <jMCg> Nope, you'd have to scrip something to do that for you...
[13:06] <Noble> I see. By default, how does fetchmail store the pulled mails?
[13:06] <_ruben> by sending it to the local mta
[13:08] <persia> Well, or sending it somewhere.
[13:09] <Noble> Is it possible to dump the files raw onto the disk?
[13:13] <Noble> If I get this straight, fechmail can pull mail into procmail?
[13:16] <_ruben> Noble: iirc yes
[13:16] <_ruben> been ages sinces i used fetchmail
[13:18] <Noble> Is it just me, or is the whole load of mail-protocols and servers just SERIOUSLY more bloated and complicated than it needs to be?
[13:19] <_ruben> all depends on your needs 'n wishes i guess
[13:19] <Noble> I mean: http://www.hypexr.org/gfx/mail_system_flow.png
[13:23] <persia> Noble: There are many options, but they are needed.
[13:25] <persia> Noble: So you need repositories (IMAP/POP/etc. servers), and you need clients (mutt/squirrelmail/etc.) and you need filters (procmail/spamassassin/etc.).  The easiest way to tie all these together without  pain is to have a standardised interface to MTAs to be able to accept mail and send it.  Filters mimic this (or can be inlined), repositories consume and clients push.
[13:25] <persia> The "simple" way to achieve what is in the diagram is to only have one client with 4 mailboxes configured.
[13:26] <persia> But that doesn't meet the needs of whoever set that up.
[13:26] <Noble> I see.
[13:26] <Noble> Gonna have to read up on this.
[13:28] <zul> ttx: do you want me to do the bzr merging for samba bugzapping thing on thursday?
[13:30] <zul> hey smoser
[13:30] <smoser> hey
[13:39] <sommer> morning
[13:59] <ttx> zul: ber merging ?
[13:59] <ttx> bzr merging ?
[13:59] <zul> ttx: yeah i just saw your blog post
[13:59] <ttx> zul: you mean keeping up a branch with all the bugfixes that will flow in on Thursday, and release it at the end of the day ?
[13:59] <zul> ttx: yep
[14:00] <ttx> zul: we'll use a branch at ~bugzappers, I think... but yes, since you end your day after I do, you'll upload the result :)
[14:00] <ttx> zul: feel free to blog about it sometime... Maybe check with pedro when he'll annoucne the bugday
[14:00] <zul> k hopefully its not crackfull
[14:26] <ttx> zul: about openvpn papercut bug 427701
[14:26] <zul> ttx: yep
[14:26] <Italian_Plumber1> I am attempting to copy some data off of a DVD that has some parts on it taht cannot be read.  Is there a way to tell the copy command (or a different one) to skip any files it cannot read, and go on to the next one?
[14:26] <ttx> I can change the default, but it will change the default behavior for people on upgrades
[14:27] <ttx> zul: should I modify /etc/default/openvpn on upgrades so that I set the default explicitely for those who upgrade ?
[14:27] <ttx> i.e. if you don't have anything set, uncomment AUTOSTART="all" so that you don't fall into the new default value ?
[14:28] <zul> ttx: i think you might to check to see what the user has and ask the user what they want to do
[14:29] <ttx> zul: I think setting AUTOSTART="all", for those that were using the default value in karmic and before, is the best way
[14:29] <zul> ttx: agreed
[14:30] <zul> ttx: people get upset when things change or go missing ;)
[14:30] <ttx> especailly network connections.
[14:30] <zul> especially
[14:47] <Pierreb> whats wrong with this line? useradd -d /ftproot/$1/$1 -g ftpusers -k /etc/ftpskel -s /bin/false $1
[14:47] <Pierreb> its for a bash script but it says the syntax is wrong
[14:52] <cemc> Pierreb: try echo "..." 'ing it
[14:53] <\sh> Pierreb: -g <gid> -G <GROUP NAME>
[14:53] <\sh> Pierreb: -g <gid of group ftpusers> or -G ftpusers
[14:53] <\sh> oh damn...I'm not updated anymor
[14:53] <\sh> forget my statement
[15:17] <Elad> where can I start troubleshooting to find out what is being restarted on my server? I looked at my iptables this morning and they have been cleared out, the apache log shows a graceful restart (last night), but when I do 'uptime' it shows that the server has been up for 5 days
[15:22] <gypsymauro> hi
[15:22] <gypsymauro> there is a way to install proxmox-ve on ubuntu?
[15:23] <merlijn-> hi, which kernel is recommended for ubuntu as a xen guest?
[15:40] <sherr> gypsymauro: Proxmox is a complete OS (Debian Lenny based). See their wiki. You do not install on top of other OS's.
[15:41] <sherr> Elad: Might just be "logrotate" (man logrotate). See log files daemon.log, syslog etc.
[15:42] <Elad> sherr, why would logrotate cause it to do strange things like that? Or will the man pages tell me why?
[15:49] <diago> if I edit nsswitch.conf, what needs to be restart to take affect
[15:53] <hggdh> kirkland: ping (re. UEC tests)
[15:55] <kirkland> hggdh: pong
[15:58] <hggdh> kirkland: what would I have to do on the UEC testing? Where can I find docs? What's the meaning of life, universe, and everything?
[15:58] <hggdh> kirkland: seriously, I am worried this may be too much for me, too soon
[16:00] <Jeeves_> Hmm
[16:00] <Jeeves_> I'm having a weird issue with lucid, pxe boot and debootstrap
[16:00] <Jeeves_> debootstrap tries to download /ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages instead of /ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz
[16:04] <zul> hggdh: the answer is 3
[16:04] <hggdh> heh
[16:07] <kirkland> hggdh: give me a minute to make a pot of coffee, before i answer
[16:08] <Elad> sherr, I just looked at the man pages for logrotate, and I reviewed my daemon.log and syslog, but I don't see any reason why my iptables would be cleared out
[16:19] <BulleTh0> Hello.. if I have to network cards in a box, how to I make them both work in the same time ?
[16:19] <BulleTh0> They are connected to the same switch.
[16:19] <BulleTh0> With the ips .252 and .253. They wont work both in the same time :|
[16:21] <genii> BulleTh0: If they are on same segment, the first one which matches as a route to somewhere else will be used
[16:22] <BulleTh0> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean genii. I want to use them as an "alias"...
[16:22] <BulleTh0> A phizical alias :)
[16:22] <BulleTh0> They have the same gateway, the same netmask and the same nameservers.
[16:23] <BulleTh0> If I ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0, eth1 dies. If I do the same thing with eth1, eth0 dies.
[16:25] <demonspork_> how do I restrict available ports to a specific user so that he can't bind any process to a port that I don't permit?
[16:30] <kjoller> Okay, I have finally made the security plunge - I have installed exim4 on my web/asterisk server. How do I test if it is a spammers playground, or if I have secured it properly?
[16:31] <kjoller> I have set it up only to listen from 127.0.0.1, but is this enough?
[16:31] <kjoller> could packages not be spoofed or something like that?
[16:31] <kjoller> And could that cause some spamfilters to reject the mails being received?
[16:34] <genii> BulleTh0: Since both adapters use same gateway, netmask, etc  then eth0 will almost always be used, unless it is not up in which case it will go to eth1
[16:35] <BulleTh0> And how do I make them be alive in the same time?
[16:35] <screen-x> BulleTh0: if your switch supports it, you could use lacp
[16:35] <BulleTh0> My switch is shit.... sorry abut the bad word.
[16:36] <BulleTh0> It's not a switch with management.
[16:36] <zul> jdstrand: ping have you though of getting 9013-apparmor-dont-clear-caps.patch and 9014-apparmor-remove-unloaded-profile-is-not-fatal.patch upstreamed yet?
[16:37] <BulleTh0> genii, screen-x Is this good anymore http://www.howtoforge.com/network_bonding_ubuntu_6.10 ? Looks kinds old.
[16:39] <genii> BulleTh0: The bonding driver instructions don't change much, so most of it is still applicable. Your switch and whaver lays beyond it need to support 802.3ad specification for this to work
[16:40] <screen-x> BulleTh0: bonding mode 6 claims to work without switch support, but I haven't tried it.
[16:42] <jdstrand> zul: 9013 I submitted last month. 9014 I only recently wrote, but am planning on sending upstream, yes
[16:42] <zul> jdstrand: cool...just working on libvirt for server dailies so was just wondering ;)
[16:42] <jdstrand> zul: I upstream everything. just didn't have time yet on 9014 since 0.7.6+ requires a lot of work to even run on Ubuntu atm
[16:43] <zul> jdstrand: oh poo
[16:43] <jdstrand> zul: talk to mdeslaur-- he tried the 0.7.6 merge recently
[16:44] <jdstrand> zul: he might be able to tell you some of the problems-- I plan to fix all that (and more), but not for at least two weeks
[16:44] <zul> k
[16:44] <jdstrand> (vacation and more pending items)
[16:44] <zul> vacation is over rated ;)
[16:45] <BulleTh0> genii, http://easytrade.com/english/Member/ProductCatalog/ProductCatalogItem_ProductID_PD0000012426.htm this is my switch
[16:45] <demonspork_> I have a server that isn't responding to incoming requests, such as trying to log in to SSH. This same server is currently holding my nickname (demonspork) and the process that is accomplishing this is responding normally. What actions do I have to attempt to get this server responding again?
[16:45] <BulleTh0> "Supports IEEE802.3x full duplex " as they say.
[16:46] <demonspork_> in fact I just ghosted the nickname and it successfully reconnected.
[16:49] <genii> BulleTh0: 802.3ad     specifically is the spec it needs to use ( the "ad" part is the pertinent part)
[16:50] <BulleTh0> That's for mode=4 . Dynamic ling aggregation. If I'm not wrong it shares the speed... but it's the same connexion so I wont do me any help.
[16:51] <BulleTh0> genii, so .. my switch supports that ?
[16:52] <BulleTh0> I have another one, http://cgi.ebay.ph/ASUS-Giga-x-1008-8-Port-Hub-Full-Metal-Case-/170435763175 but the specs look the same.
[16:53] <genii> BulleTh0: Hard to tell from the specs given if it supports link aggregation or not. You could always use one of the other modes which do not require it (roundrobin or so)
[16:54] <BulleTh0> /etc/modprob.d/arch/i386 is editable ? mcedit says it's not :|
[16:54] <BulleTh0> Hmmzzz
[16:54] <genii> BulleTh0: You need sudo/admin
[16:54] <BulleTh0> genii, I'm on root.
[16:55] <BulleTh0> cat: /etc/modprob.d/arch/i386: No such file or directory
[16:55] <BulleTh0> o.O
[16:55] <BulleTh0> Something is missing.
[16:55] <Pici>  its /etc/modprobe.d/
[16:55] <Pici> not modprob
[16:56] <BulleTh0> Same thing.
[16:56] <BulleTh0> cat: /etc/modprobe.d/arch/i386: No such file or directory
[16:56] <BulleTh0> Btw... it's a fresh install.
[16:57] <BulleTh0> There is no arch directory in modeprobe.d
[17:00] <BulleTh0> I used this how to. And at the end the /etc/network/interfaces looks kinda weird. The ethX configurations are commented. How the server should know how to get the adresses ?
[17:04] <genii> BulleTh0: The bond0 device overrides the eth0/eth1/ethX devicenames. When you enslave the subdevices, it will bring them up itself usually
[17:05] <genii> Work is very busy right now, aplogies on lag
[17:06] <BulleTh0> genni, yes but I'm planing to use mutiple ip adresses :)
[17:07] <BulleTh0> eth0: Reply from 86.122.121.252: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=62        eth1: Request timed out.// and it's configured properly.
[17:09] <BulleTh0> Enslaving is the opposite thing that I want. I want to use each nic that I have on the server with the ips that I have.
[17:28] <smoser> kirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/531494
[17:29] <smoser> can you accept nominiation for lucid for me?
[17:33] <sbeattie> smoser: I accepted it.
[17:34] <smoser> thanks
[18:05] <kirkland> smoser: oh, sorry, yeah, done
[18:05] <kirkland> smoser: ah, sbeattie got it
[18:06] <smoser> yeah, thanks
[18:51] <ahasenack> has anybody been using the lucid desktop AMIs with NX?
[18:51] <ahasenack> it doesn't work for me, and I found that the nx ppa that those AMIs have is pointing to karmic even
[18:52] <ahasenack> so after fixing that and updating the ami, finally I at least got rid of the "Mar  8 18:25:52 domU-12-31-39-0A-4A-22 sshd[870]: Invalid user nx@ubuntu from ...." error, not it tries just "nx"
[19:43] <jaypur> lol i just discoverd that windows server has a interface
[19:43] <jaypur> lol
[19:43] <jaypur> an interface*
[19:45] <jaypur> so it does not have like 100% performance...
[19:55] <jaypur> if i install nautilus at my ubuntu server, if i connect by ssh, and run it at my ubuntu client, it will open like the same nautilus here, and i could navigate by the files?
[19:56] <guntbert> jaypur: nautilus on a server? uncommon
[19:56] <jaypur> like
[19:56] <jaypur> i need to
[19:56] <jaypur> see the files at my laptop
[19:58] <jaypur> guntbert, i want to see my server files as i see my laptop files, but remotly..
[19:58] <soren> jaypur: Ask in #ubuntu how to use nautilus to connect over ssh.
[19:59] <guntbert> jaypur: please lets make it clear - you want to access your server from your notebook?
[19:59] <jaypur> soren, thanks
[19:59] <jaypur> guntbert, i can do that...
[19:59] <jaypur> guntbert, i wanna modify the files as i do at the note, like interface...
[20:00] <guntbert> jaypur: I ask if that is what you want to do - if yes you type ssh  -X youruser@yourserver   -- then you can start any GUI app thats installed on the server and have it display on your notebook
[20:01] <jaypur> guntbert, yeah!
[20:02] <jaypur> so i could install nautilus and run it here??
[20:02] <jaypur> ppl are telling me to connect nautilus by ssh
[20:02] <soren> Don't install nautilus on the server. That's silly.
[20:02] <soren> 20:58:57 < soren> jaypur: Ask in #ubuntu how to use nautilus to connect over ssh.
[20:02] <jaypur> soren, already on it brother
[20:03] <guntbert> jaypur: you would have to install it on the server - but as soren said (and was my first comment) - it is not advisable
[20:03] <jaypur> connected it!!!
[20:03] <jaypur> i just love you guys X)
[20:03] <jaypur> and linux
[20:04] <jaypur> HAHAH AWESOME!!!!
[20:04] <jaypur> i'm so happy
[20:05] <jaypur> it's a shame that, game servers can only be run 24 hours if i run it on the server, can run it by ssh, if i close the ssh, the server goes off...
[20:05] <jaypur> =/
[20:05] <jaypur> but i think i can set some commands to run at the start up of the server..... and then the server goes automatic rite?
[20:10] <jaypur> brb
[21:06] <lifeless> kirkland: btw, the ubuntu wiki docs need a refresh
[21:06] <lifeless> kirkland: they say to start 'registration' but its now 'publication'
[21:07] <lifeless> kirkland: also, I tink the nc br0 setup should happen before package install, not after :)
[21:11] <kirkland> lifeless: totally
[21:11] <kirkland> lifeless: we'll probably shift into that mode around beta2
[21:12] <kirkland> lifeless: i think we'll need to branch the docs for 9.10 and 10.04
[21:14] <jaypur> my ssh is not working after i changed the port =/
[21:14] <jaypur> and i've already ipend the port at the router
[21:16] <jaypur> sudo nice -20 ./program.... is it ok???
[21:42] <kees> kirkland: I've updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking again, this time with the safer version of how to handle the fscaps and user caps.
[21:43] <kirkland> kees: thanks, i'm still buried under some uec testing
[21:43] <kees> kirkland: np.
[22:08] <osmosis__> I dont really get what ubuntu cloud is. Can someone explain it?
[22:14] <tranceNRG> It's similar to Amazon's EC2 service except it runs on your machines.  Essentially you spin up a varying number of instances (virtual machines) to meet your computational needs.
[22:24] <osmosis__> tranceNRG, but what exactly is running on my servers? and how do I use it? Is it like multi machined clustered disk space?
[22:26] <tranceNRG> ubuntu server edition with eucalyptus software.  Requires one dedicated controller machine and one or more node machines.  I honestly am fairly new to it as well but that is what I have gathered from reading.
[22:27] <tranceNRG> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[22:28] <mrandrzejak> Hello everyone! New to the chat here, longtime Ubuntu user.
[22:29] <mrandrzejak> #ubuntu-california
[22:29] <mrandrzejak> Not sure how I got here though :) How do I switch to other chats?
[22:31] <sherr> mrandrzejak: irc uses "/join" etc. but depends on your client. This is ubuntu-server specific.
[22:34] <mrandrzejak> OK, thanks!
[22:37] <mrandrzejak> Would anyone know if it is possible to do video chat with ICQ? Or if Pidgin or other chat programs like Empathy are planning to include it?
[22:39] <bdmurray> hggdh: have you seen https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+patches ?
[22:40] <hggdh> bdmurray: no, I had not
[22:40] <hggdh> thank you.
 still finding things
[22:40] <bdmurray> hggdh: it's really new!
[22:41] <bdmurray> like the 3rd
[22:44] <katsuodo> i have a strange problem
[22:46] <katsuodo> rebuilt a server using 8.04.2 and ran apt-get update to update/upgrade
[22:46] <katsuodo> server to 8.04.4.  I get the following:
[22:46] <katsuodo> w: failed to fetch
[22:46] <katsuodo> http://security.ubuntu.com/dists/hardy-security/multiverse/i18n/translation-en_us.bz2
[22:46] <katsuodo> unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com ip address x.x.x.x:80
[22:46] <katsuodo> i typed the following:
[22:46] <katsuodo> sudo apt-get check
[22:46] <katsuodo> sudo apt-get update -f
[22:46] <katsuodo> sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade grep apt:ps ax | grep apt /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: i killall processes and there is no manager running in the background.
[22:47] <katsuodo> i have a internet connection and can  ping the security.ubuntu.com server without a problem
[22:47] <sherr> katsuodo: If I get apt failures (e.g. fetch) I try again a bit later (or the next day). Often fixes issues.
[22:48] <katsuodo> this is one day later today
[22:48] <sherr> Sometimes get glitches - time fies them :-)
[22:48] <sherr> *fixes
[22:49] <sherr> I have an 8.04.4 around - let me try ...
[22:49] <katsuodo> okay
[22:49] <katsuodo> it is 8.04.2
[22:52] <sherr> I have 8.04.4 and did an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" and it pulled down a few things (sudo, cups) and installed OK. This is a vbox install though, or 8.04.4 directly (I think).
[22:54] <katsuodo> i just tried it again and the same
[22:55] <katsuodo> it is trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com @ some given ip address.  i ping the ip address and it responds
[22:56] <katsuodo> receiving err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com now it is trying to connect to security.ubuntu.com
[22:57] <sherr> katsuodo: Maybe try changing repos in your sources.list.
[22:57] <sherr> Anyway - good luck.
[22:58] <katsuodo> this is none gui based
[22:59] <katsuodo> can you navigate to info to change the server where the download is pulling down from?
[23:03] <sherr> katsuodo: you mean the apt sources list file?
[23:03] <sherr> /etc/spt/sources.list
[23:04] <sherr> s/spt/apt/
[23:06] <jpds> katsuodo: us.archive is in London.
[23:06] <katsuodo> if u look at repositories in a gui based installation there is an option to change the download from
[23:06] <sherr> I pasted my sources.list here :
[23:06] <jpds> katsuodo: Try using a US mirror like http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ubuntu/ instead.
[23:06] <sherr> http://pastebin.com/FV3fqArN
[23:06] <sherr> /etc/apt/sources.list for Hardy 8.04.4.
[23:07] <sherr> Make a BACKUP of yours if you use it
[23:07] <jpds> sherr: gb.archive is also in London.
[23:07] <sherr> Good night  Zzzz :-)
[23:08] <jaypur1> how can i connect to my server by ssh, with nautilus on, like a root???
[23:08] <katsuodo> sherr where you have gb i have us instead
[23:09] <jpds> katsuodo: Exactly.
[23:09] <jpds> katsuodo: Pick a US mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors and copy and paste the sources.list entries the mirror page provides.
[23:12] <katsuodo> will give this a try and report back in a moment
[23:14] <katsuodo> jpds just these two lines only?
[23:15] <jpds> katsuodo: Repeat for -updates, etc.
[23:16] <katsuodo> do you mean type this statement in as substitution for the other statements in sources.list?
[23:17] <jaypur1> i can see my server files here, by nautilus ssh... but if i need to change a file or folder i don't have the permission, what can i do?
[23:33] <Roxyhart0> hi there...Im having problem with roaming profile (samba-ubuntu)..aparetly the profile template is corrupt. Somebody know how i can create a profile template?