[00:01] <MarkDude> Same with me, I thought ground cherries was better than cape
[00:02] <MarkDude> How about a strawberry guava tree, I wont get any fruit for at least a few years
[00:04] <JanC> something similar to the ground cherries is known as "jodenkers" ("jews cherry") here, go figure  ;)
[00:04] <JanC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physalis_alkekengi in English
[00:07] <MarkDude> Horrible name & it can cause health problem, hmm.
[00:07] <MarkDude> tomato does have some not friendly relatives
[00:08] <JanC> the name is from some type of hat jews would traditionally wear here in Europe at some period in history, which resembled those "lampions"
[00:08] <MarkDude> Thats why I was reluctant with these, til I saw how it was used for pies & other stuff, safley even
[00:09] <JanC> tomatoes & potatoes aren't entirely harmless on their own of course  ;)
[00:09] <MarkDude> ok, similar to how we have some squash here that are called turbans
[00:10] <MarkDude> potatoes eyes are pretty harful if you eat them
[00:10] <JanC> well, tomatoes are mostly okay, but uncooked potatoes are somewhat poisonous
[00:10] <MarkDude> The shoots have some nasty green chemical that can make you sick,
[00:11] <akgraner> The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue183
[00:12] <JanC> akgraner: spammer!  ;-)
[00:12] <akgraner> :-P
[00:13] <JanC> but seriously, thanks to you and the rest of the team  :-)
[00:13] <akgraner> you're welcome :-)
[00:14] <elky> I guess I should close off voting now
[00:14] <elky> Hah, 3 votes in the past half hour.
[00:15] <elky> Some people are cutting it really close
[00:15] <akgraner> it is aftwe 2400UTC isn't it :-)
[00:15] <akgraner> after even
[00:15] <MarkDude> I really enjoy reading about what some of the folks do in the Ubuntu Community
[00:15] <elky> it is, yes
[00:15]  * elky shells in and updates the php
[00:16] <JanC> it's after 00h UTC indeed
[00:16] <akgraner> elky, thanks! - I talked to Jono he will be doing the drawing at 10amPST - which I believe is 7pm UTC
[00:17] <elky> akgraner, does he know how yet?
[00:17] <elky> akgraner, i mean, has he organised a comically large top hat or something?
[00:17] <akgraner> elky, dunno about that  - - but when I asked if he was all ready for Monday he said he was
[00:18] <elky> Cool. I'm just hoping he's not wanting an app :P
[00:18]  * MarkDude has visions of Jono pulling winners out of a skull from an 80's heavy metal album
[00:18] <MarkDude> He probably has a few to choose from
[00:19] <akgraner> elky,  I am emailing him in just a few so I'll double check :-)
[00:19] <JanC> MarkDude: or a rotting corpse of a former UK prime minister?  ;)
[00:19] <MarkDude> knowing Jono - you never know
[00:19]  * JanC thinks about some famous metal album cover that got forbidden in the UK :P
[00:20] <JanC> (that prime minister was in function back in the 1980s)
[00:20] <MarkDude> :)
[00:21] <MarkDude> tea, biscuits & heavy metal http://www.flickr.com/photos/gidgetkitchen/4383207150/
[00:22] <MarkDude> Jono is a good subject for filler slides, its safer than some choices
[00:22] <nigelb> elky: can we the total votes thing now?
[00:23] <elky> can you wait until i finish closing it off?
[00:24] <nigelb> yep :P
[00:24] <nigelb> :)
[00:25] <elky> http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/result.php
[00:29] <nhandler> elky: It might be nice to sort the table by the number of votes
[00:29] <elky> nhandler, yeah, i'll array them in a bit
[00:29] <nhandler> :)
[00:30] <elky> http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/result.phps fwiw
[00:30]  * elky really is out of touch with coding :(
[00:31] <elky> (index.phps and token.phps also now exist)
[00:32] <elky> and i really should check that i put a dbconn in before doing that...
[00:32]  * elky goes and changes passwords
[00:32] <nigelb> lol
[00:33] <nigelb> 'Could not connect to the database. No pony for you' :p
[00:33] <nigelb> elky: just order the database query, should turn up right :)
[00:34] <elky> nigelb, uh?
[00:34] <akgraner> but we are going to formally announce both winners tomorrow right?
[00:35] <nigelb> elky: oh no, misread code.  needs-more-reading
[00:36] <akgraner> elky, I mean we are going to be blogging or tweeting one but not the other before tomorrow are we?
[00:37] <elky> no point in having jono do it otherwise, really
[00:37] <elky> tatica1 is in -women if you want to tell her, but she's going to have to embargo it
[00:40] <nigelb> elky: I guess you could just color the top entry ;) I'm too lazy to figure out how to sort ;)
[00:40] <nigelb> top = winning
[00:42] <elky> nigelb, i can put it in an array and sort the array
[00:42] <elky> it's just, i didn't
[00:42] <elky> most of this was done after work in a week I wasn't leaving work until after 7pm
[00:42] <nigelb> elky: ask for help then :)
[00:42] <elky> nigelb, i don't need help.
[00:42]  * nigelb is a bit rusty but worked on a few projects :)
[00:43] <elky> i need phpmyadmin to do what i tell it
[00:43] <nigelb> elky: oh well, I could have done parts of it when you didn't have time :)
[00:46] <elky> its now refusing to change password?
[00:47] <nigelb> phpmyadmin?
[00:47] <elky> i'd guess so
[00:47] <nigelb> try changing with root then
[00:47] <elky> i am logged in to phpmyadmin as root
[00:48] <nigelb> now, thats really odd
[00:48] <elky> but no matter how many times i change the password, it fails to connect
[00:48] <nigelb> changed the password on the page?
[00:48] <elky> of course
[00:49] <nigelb> it it hosted by you or somewhere else? (because hosts tend to limit power to phpmyadmin)
[00:49] <elky> dreamhost. it's the same one i, you k now, set it up on
[00:50] <nigelb> I've faced this issue, but I dont remember what I did
[00:50] <nigelb> is there a way outside of phpmyadim to change the database password?
[00:50] <nigelb> if so, try that
[00:51] <elky> i've changed it to the root password for now
[00:51] <elky> it feels icky :(
[00:51] <nigelb> a bit dangerous and highly unrecommended
[00:52] <elky> nigelb, back off.
[00:52] <nigelb> okay okay
[00:52] <nigelb> sorry :(
[00:54] <elky> it's only a temporary measure, just to stop people seeing that even less secure error
[00:54] <nigelb> :)
[00:55] <nigelb> I'm going to laze the whole day in a resort with teammates, so catch y'all later :)
[00:55] <JanC> elky: asking for an embargo in a logged channel?  ☺
[00:56] <elky> JanC, a logged channel is a little diffrerent to plastered across 3 social networks and goodness only knows how many planets
[00:57] <elky> i just don't think setting the blogosphere awash right now is terribly useful
[01:20] <elky> there
[01:22] <elky> I kinda get the feeling that there were some folks pushing the voting fairly heavily in certain loco groups
[01:23] <elky> *cough*fabian*cough*
[01:24] <IdleOne> elky: voting on what?
[01:24] <elky> the story comp
[01:24] <IdleOne> ohhh
[01:25] <IdleOne> well fabian is a good pusher :)
[01:25] <elky> he is, yeah
[01:25] <IdleOne> errr that sounds bad
[01:25] <elky> im just noting the apparent heritage of the top stories ;)
[05:53] <akgraner> hey all jono will be announcing the two winners of the Ubuntu International Women's Day Competition tomorrow - watch live at http://tinyurl.com/ykxqerb
[05:55] <elky> akgraner, someone really needs to tell him that we kinda have a newer logo than that, too.
[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:21] <wintellect> Anyone here have the AcerAspireOne?
[13:31] <jussi01> not I said the hedgehog
[18:09] <czajkowski> jjono is announcing the winnder of the women competition
[18:09] <czajkowski> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[18:09] <czajkowski> congtats tactil
[19:14] <akgraner> elky, pleia2 can you all get together about getting the stories onto the website?? please :-)
[19:15] <pleia2> akgraner: on the wiki?
[19:15] <akgraner> yeah that's what I meant
[19:15] <akgraner> wiki webpages  - yadda yadda :-)
[19:16] <pleia2> should just be a copy paste job
[19:16] <pleia2> I can work on that this evening
[19:16] <pleia2> are you going to announce the winners on the list? I was on a conference call during the announcement so I don't even know (aside from tatica1)
[19:17] <akgraner> I am about put out a blog post on the winners... then sent to the list :-)
[19:17] <pleia2> great :)
[19:17] <akgraner> but I am torn if I should put the whole stories on the announcement to the list or just point to the wiki's???  suggestions?
[19:18] <pleia2> I'd put the stories in the announcement
[19:19] <akgraner> ok can do - I'll write it up so it can sure as an announcement on the Fridge as well
[19:19] <akgraner> serve even
[19:25] <akgraner> gotta run snag the kids for a dentist appt - but I'll get them out as soon as I get back unless someone else wants to do that right quick?
[21:26] <pleia2> ok, we have veeeery basic: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/InternationalWomensDay (we should probably flesh it out, add links back to blog entries maybe)
[21:27] <pleia2> then we have: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/InternationalWomensDay/HowIDiscoveredUbuntu which I only started working on, we actually want ALL the stories here, but I have to work so I'll get to finishing it later tonight unless somoene else wants to jump in
[21:28] <elky> so... for those of us who were asleep until about 10 minutes ago?
[21:36] <pleia2> hm?
[21:37] <pleia2> we're putting them up on the wiki for long term storage
[21:37] <akgraner> elky - The winners are: Elvira Martinez and Karen Y. Perez with honorable mention going to Jen Phillips as well
[21:37] <maco2> its like 930am in elkyland i think, so asleep til 10 minutes ago makes sense...
[21:37] <pleia2> maco2: sure, I just don't understand the question
[21:37] <pleia2> what is for people who were asleep?
[21:38] <akgraner> also here is the link to the videocast - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[21:44] <elky> pleia2, It meant I wasn't awake at 5am ;)
[21:45] <pleia2> elky: ah, yeah, I had just woken up and was on a conference call :\
[21:46] <akgraner> bbiab today is akgraner's taxi service - taking becca to wrestling practice :-)
[21:47] <AlanBell> I have a becca too
[21:47] <AlanBell> she doesn't do wrestling though
[21:51] <czajkowski> inbox 0 :D
[21:51] <czajkowski> <---------very happy
[21:51] <pleia2> wanna do mine next? :)
[21:52] <MichelleQ> mine third?
[21:52] <czajkowski> it's taken 2 weeks due to not having net
[21:52] <czajkowski> which drove me slightly bonkers
[21:52] <czajkowski> so now for cv
[22:08]  * maco2 goes to listen/watch to jono's ustream thingy
[22:08] <maco2> (since when is text insufficient for communication?)
[22:09] <maco2> (i can read text much faster than i can listen to someone talk)
[22:09] <pleia2> akgraner will announce it on the list too, along with the winning stories
[22:09] <pleia2> as text :)
[22:09] <maco2> oooh silent jono. that's a change. that's like me being silent (outside of the meetinghouse)
[22:09] <maco2> though his lips are moving...hmm
[22:10] <czajkowski> maco2: you speak the fastest
[22:10] <maco2> czajkowski: i know someone that speaks faster and more than me!
[22:10] <maco2> czajkowski: and he's had 5 fewer years of practice!
[22:11] <maco2> so is jono's video supposed to be a silent film, or is flash being stupid on my laptop?
[22:11] <pleia2> flash is being stupid on your laptop
[22:11] <pleia2> :(
[22:11] <maco2> ok
[22:12] <maco2> reason to dislike ustream and prefer regular old .mov or .avi or .mp4:  no flash!
[22:12] <maco2> though this reminds me i need to listen to popey's podcast
[22:12] <maco2> my miro is all backed up
[22:14] <maco2> hmm why does ustream require flash in order to display a list of episodes? this seems gratuitous
[22:14] <maco2> PAtGUoF
[22:15] <maco2> People Against the Gratuitous Use of Flash
[22:15] <pleia2> I actually liked the introduction of flash for videos, no more messing around with installing browser plugins for video
[22:15] <maco2> ooh he has the "i'm sorry mr gates, i cant do that" LJ sticker
[22:16] <maco2> pleia2: i tend to just plain not use the browser for video
[22:16] <maco2> i wget the file and open it in totem or dragon (depending on gnome or kde)
[22:16] <pleia2> maco2: well sure, but then you're downloading the content and that's STEALING! or somesuch ;)
[22:16] <maco2> your browser has to download it to play it anyway
[22:28] <maco2> huh. interesting definition of "random"
[22:29] <pleia2> yeah, there seems to have been some kind of miscommunication regarding the additional selection
[22:37] <hypa7ia> sigh
[22:42] <nhandler> pleia2: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1993
[22:42] <pleia2> nhandler: thank you! :)
[22:42] <nhandler> pleia2: No problem