[00:03] <networkr> can anyone help me in editing my menu in Xubuntu Karmic?
[00:11] <bu22> Hi - looking for some help with xubuntu boot of usb (with persitent fs) - would like to avoid startup install, check disk etc and go straight to login. Any ideas?
[01:36] <BlueSTARS> Good evening. I just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 Alpha 3 yesterday and have been working back through fixing the little bugs that come up.
[01:36] <BlueSTARS> I heard that 10.04 was supposed to be without HAL
[01:37] <BlueSTARS> but when i checked, I still have HAL installed. Trying "aptitude remove hal" gives me a warning
[01:37] <BlueSTARS> that it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop because that depends on HAL.
[01:37] <BlueSTARS> so, what gives?
[01:39] <BlueSTARS> anybody around?
[01:44] <Kangarooo> yea
[01:45] <Kangarooo> ouh that i wont know
[02:11] <meleu> hi all...
[02:12] <meleu> how can I securely eject my external HDD?
[02:12] <meleu> (sorry my poor english)
[02:13] <meleu> in nautilus it is ok, the led on my external USB hard disk is off after I "securely remove" my device
[02:14] <meleu> but in thunar it just unmount, the led keeps on
[02:20] <BlueSTARS> meleu, it's alright
[02:20] <BlueSTARS> after you unmount it in thunar, go ahead and pop it
[02:20] <BlueSTARS> mine has the same situation
[02:21] <meleu> but I think that turning off the HDD is more "secure"
[02:22] <meleu> when the HDD is unmounted and keeps on
[02:22] <meleu> I can hear the spinning of the disks :P
[02:24] <meleu> (I think that's better use "safely" instead "securely"... :-))
[02:32] <BlueSTARS> meleu, what happens when you run "sudo umount <MOUNTPOINT>"
[02:39] <meleu> let me see
[02:41] <meleu> the device is unmounted, but the led of my device is on
[02:42] <meleu> and I can feel the device "working"
[02:42] <meleu> I'm googling for this proglem...
[02:42] <meleu> ooops... problem
[04:48] <ExpDate> hei, got a weird question here,
[04:48] <ExpDate> I cant use by down arrow button, during a man page
[04:48] <ExpDate> for example i use `man ls`
[04:49] <ExpDate> then i could use my my down arrow
[04:49] <ExpDate> any suggestion?
[04:49] <ExpDate> Hallo
[06:09] <zak_> Hey.. can someone help me?
[06:11] <metalstround> Hello..
[06:14] <metalstround> anyone..?
[06:18] <metalstround> Anyone at all?
[06:40] <mint_> Guts i need help please. How can i revert back this command from a liveCD i can no longer boot up my X server is broken here is the command that i need to revert back to normal---- sudo tune2fs -o journal_data_writeback /dev/sdb2
[07:43] <Balsaq> good morning Code Warriors....
[09:59] <Balsaq> welcome to the the temperate, climatic,webforest known as Xubuntu...
[10:10] <Balsaq> hi Sysi!!!
[10:10] <Sysi> ohai
[10:12] <Balsaq> Sysi: what have you done to my buddy...Pete?
[10:16] <Sysi> nothing i guess, has he disppeared?
[10:19] <Balsaq> on several occasions, i provided the correct answer to someones xubuntu technical question.
[10:20] <Balsaq> but when friday came, i did not receive a paycheck.
[10:22] <Balsaq> welcome to the the temperate, climatic,webforest known as Xubuntu...
[15:22] <adnan> hello guys
[15:22] <adnan> i need help
[15:22] <adnan> I think my VGA driver is not installed
[15:23] <adnan> I am new to xubuntu
[15:23] <adnan> :/
[15:23] <adnan> anyone's here guys ?
[15:27] <charlie-tca> !patience
[15:36] <adnan> still no one available in here ? :/
[15:40] <psycho_oreos> lol
[15:40] <psycho_oreos> !patience
[15:40] <adnan> lol
[15:40] <psycho_oreos> and its hard when you didn't specify what chipset it is anyway
[15:41] <adnan> all i need is how to install my vga card
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> that's like stabbing in the dark
[15:41] <adnan> the resolution is set to 800x600
[15:41] <adnan> this is my first time using xubuntu
[15:41] <adnan> :/
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> new to linux as well?
[15:41] <adnan> yup
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> know how to open up terminal?
[15:42] <adnan> ALT+F2 ?
[15:42] <charlie-tca> If you are in a hurry for an answer, you can ask in #ubuntu, also
[15:42] <psycho_oreos> alt+f2 and xfce4-terminal
[15:42] <adnan> charlie-tca,  I did .. they ask me to join here
[15:42] <adnan> lol
[15:43] <charlie-tca> Most vga cards are installed automatically in linux
[15:43] <charlie-tca> If you have a display showing, a driver was installed
[15:43] <adnan> then why I am getting the resolution 800x600 ?
[15:43] <psycho_oreos> I need lspci -nnk output into pastebin
[15:44] <adnan> psycho_oreos,  what after that window appear ?
[15:44] <psycho_oreos> its hard to say when you can't tell us what chipset you got, better yet, pastebin that lspci -nnk output
[15:44] <adnan> I typed in terminal what u said
[15:44] <psycho_oreos> adnan, "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)
[15:45] <psycho_oreos> copy and paste that into a site called pastebin
[15:46] <subspider> hello friends
[15:46] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[15:46] <adnan> pastebin ?
[15:46] <psycho_oreos> !paste
[15:46] <adnan> !paste
[15:46] <adnan> ermm
[15:46] <adnan> I got all the drivers info
[15:46] <adnan> its VGA SIS ...
[15:46] <psycho_oreos> read what was the output of ubottu
[15:46] <adnan> ermm
[15:46] <psycho_oreos> eww
[15:47] <psycho_oreos> well I'll still need that output, so use pastebin
[15:47] <adnan> how to use pastebin? sorry I am asking too much
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin | adnan
[15:48] <adnan> !pastebin
[15:49] <adnan> !pastebinit
[15:49] <adnan> I can't even switch between xchat and the terminal
[15:49] <adnan> isn't like windows ALT+TAB ?
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> its supposed to but if you have it in different workspace, it might not work
[15:50] <adnan> if I install the updates , it'll install the VGA also auto ?
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> hard to say, I'd check hardware drivers section first
[15:50] <adnan> ok, let me try something and be back... thanks psycho_oreos  for the help ... :)
[15:51]  * psycho_oreos sighs
[15:51] <charlie-tca> At least you did try
[15:52] <psycho_oreos> I think he's on high lol
[15:52] <charlie-tca> That's probably why ubuntu sent him here
[15:53] <psycho_oreos> hence that's why he's probably getting impatient :)
[15:54]  * charlie-tca suspects he is always impatient
[15:54] <charlie-tca> another case of "don't have time to read it" syndrome
[15:55] <psycho_oreos> "fragile" is all I can think of
[15:56] <psycho_oreos> and whoever recommended ubuntu/xubuntu to him probably wasn't serious either
[15:56] <charlie-tca> possible
[15:57] <knome> hey charlie-tca
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[16:59] <sealive> Hi i lost all the panels xbuntu hardy
[17:02] <robinking623> sealive: "alt + F2" then xfce4-panel
[17:03] <charlie-tca> Hello, subspider
[17:04] <sealive> robinking623: Thanks
[17:04] <robinking623> sealive: you re welcome
[17:06] <subspider> hello charlie-tca how are you man??
[17:06] <charlie-tca> Hey, I am great today!
[17:06] <charlie-tca> Well, almost, anyway, huh
[17:09] <sealive> robinking623: why does this happen so offen?
[17:10] <robinking623> sealive: hmmm. I don't know. but I am running xubuntu 804. it is very stable
[17:10] <robinking623> sealive: maybe you should use "sudo reboot"
[17:11] <knome> sealive, we don't know. hardy is quite old, doesn't happen that much in the new versions.
[17:12] <sealive> thanks i only try to get my CNC mashine working on linux
[17:19] <sealive> ok i'am fine working now going to the hardware Thanks
[18:46] <Unnheulu> how do you get the boost header 1.35 installed
[19:39] <john__> Hello - I need help playing a DVD on my xubuntu 9.10 installation - none of the media players seem to be working
[19:42] <genii> !medibuntu
[19:45] <Sysi> !libdvdcss
[19:48] <john__> thank you thank you
[19:48] <john__> this is great I'll start from some of these resources and see how I make out
[20:48] <mtrg> how can i remove the fancy dancing lights during login?
[20:48] <mtrg> basically, i want to simplify my login process
[20:52] <TheSheep> mtrg: edit /etc/default/grub, remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options and run update-grub2 as root
[20:52] <TheSheep> mtrg: note however removing it will not speed anything up
[20:53] <TheSheep> and may even slow it down minimally
[20:53] <mtrg> TheSheep: i don't mean the dancing/glowing rat
[20:54] <charlie-tca> The lights are part of the gdm backsplash artwork, I think.
[20:54] <mtrg> TheSheep: once the booting is done, after I see the logon screen. I click on my name, login, and then moving lights appaers
[20:54] <mtrg> hmmm charlie-tca
[20:54] <knome> charlie-tca, no, it's xsplash
[20:54] <charlie-tca> They indicate that the system is not frozen
[20:55] <mtrg> ok, what about my login window. when i click on my user acount, it takes 1 second to let me type the password
[20:55] <mtrg> 1-2 sconds
[20:55] <knome> mtrg, you can pretty much start typing once you've pressed enter
[20:56] <mtrg> knome: pressing enter on my user account?
[20:56] <TheSheep> but it does seem very unresponsive :(
[20:56] <knome> mtrg, yes, that's what i do at least..
[20:56] <knome> TheSheep, it does seem to be, but actually it gets the input
[20:56] <knome> TheSheep, well, depends on the pc on how fast that is, but...
[20:56] <TheSheep> knome: in user experience, what seems is what counts
[20:57] <knome> TheSheep, yup.
[20:57] <mtrg> so, practically i can type asap, but user interface is delayed for a retarded reason
[20:57] <TheSheep> knome: 2Ghz dual core with 2GB ram shouldn't be that slow on simple password input
[20:57] <knome> TheSheep, but it still gets the input, and you can start typing your pass immediately.
[20:57] <knome> TheSheep, i agree.
[20:58] <knome> TheSheep, but i'm not cehind the new gdm
[20:58] <knome> (i'm not that small to it be able to cover me)
[20:58] <mtrg>  can i change it?
[20:58] <TheSheep> we will cut off the parts taht stick out
[20:58] <mtrg> to soemthing faster
[20:58] <knome> TheSheep, yay
[20:59] <knome> mtrg, you can, but that's not recommended.
[20:59] <mtrg> TheSheep: are you part of xubuntu dev team?
[20:59] <TheSheep> mtrg: theoretically yes, but I've never seen a fully-functional xubuntu with a different login manager than default
[20:59] <TheSheep> mtrg: no
[20:59] <charlie-tca> so, knome, can xsplash be removed?
[20:59] <knome> charlie-tca, i suppose so.
[21:00] <charlie-tca> That would get rid of the twinklng firefly lights, right?
[21:00] <knome> charlie-tca, yes, but not the slow UI change
[21:00] <knome> charlie-tca, i'm not sure if the new gdm depends on xsplash though.
[21:00]  * charlie-tca knew that already. 
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I don't know. You can remove plymouth though for a possible faster startup to gdm
[21:01] <knome> plymouth isn't in karmic :)
[21:01] <knome> but you knew that as well
[21:01] <mtrg> how can we remove the firefly lights again?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> ooops
[21:01] <charlie-tca> Try removing xsplash
[21:01] <mtrg> apt-get delete xsplash?
[21:01] <charlie-tca> but it might break you system
[21:02] <mtrg> i don't see why the login process is retarted. the whole system is just perfect though!
[21:02] <charlie-tca> It the whole system is perfect, why do you wnat to mess with it?
[21:03] <knome> charlie-tca, karmic apt-cache depends gdm actually says gdm conflicts with xsplash..
[21:03] <mr_pouit> xsplash is only a recommendation, you should be able to remove it without breaking anything
[21:03] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:03] <knome> mr_pouit, ^ do i have a broken system?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> If it conflicts, it won't work, will it?
[21:03] <mtrg> knome: i meant, everything except login process
[21:03] <mr_pouit> knome: no, because 'depends' doesn't show the versions
[21:03] <knome> charlie-tca, well, it does work. :)
[21:03] <knome> mr_pouit, ah, okay :)
[21:04] <mr_pouit> it probably conflicts with an old version of xsplash
[21:04] <knome> right
[21:04] <mr_pouit> xsplash (<< 0.8)
[21:04] <mr_pouit> ;)
[21:04] <charlie-tca> mtrg: yes, apt-get purge xsplash
[21:04] <mtrg> what would i see if i don't have xsplash?
[21:04] <knome> mr_pouit, doesn't seem to recommend xsplash either. is that just because xsplash already is in the list, only falsely?
[21:04] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Installed: 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 in karmic
[21:05] <knome> charlie-tca, < is smaller than
[21:05] <charlie-tca> oh
[21:05] <charlie-tca> mtrg: don't know, never tried it and don't really want to
[21:06] <mtrg> i think it should be possible if i play with gdm options?
[21:07] <mr_pouit> knome: ah right, xubuntu-gdm-theme recommends xsplash
[21:07] <mr_pouit> (not gdm)
[21:07] <knome> mr_pouit, :)
[21:08] <mtrg> hmmm gdm configs make it seem simple
[21:08] <mtrg> a little shell script doing if xsplash then do it, else don't
[21:08] <mtrg> :)
[21:10] <mtrg> just uncommented a line in gdm config. will login/logout and see how it goes.. bye for now
[21:42] <faron> can anybody tell me why "tools-addons" in Firefox tells me that something called "default plugin" is enabled but "about:plugins" says that it is not ?
[21:43] <faron> Why is that doing that ?...........{about:plugins}
[21:43] <faron> about : plugins
[21:44] <knome> no idea.
[21:45] <knome> :)
[21:46] <Sysi> could it be like virtual package?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> Anybody have Xubuntu Lucid working with Ubuntu One?
[22:12] <knome> charlie-tca, should ubuntu 1 work with xubuntu?
[22:12] <charlie-tca> why not? it does in 9.10
[22:13] <knome> okay.
[22:13] <knome> didn't know that
[22:13] <charlie-tca> it is just a client with gnome in the name and a bunch of python stuff
[22:14] <charlie-tca> I just thought i would try it. I was surprised that it did work, since it wouldn't last year
[22:15] <charlie-tca> but, now I want it to work with all of my systems
[22:20]  * charlie-tca thinks he can't be the ONLY dumb enough to think Ubuntu One should work on Xubuntu...
[22:23] <knome> charlie-tca, heh. good luck :)
[22:23] <charlie-tca> I am!
[22:24] <charlie-tca> Apparently no one in #ubuntu+1 knows either...
[22:39] <knome> charlie-tca, weird.
[22:39] <knome> charlie-tca, is it working?
[22:39] <charlie-tca> not in lucid
[22:39] <knome> okay
[22:39] <charlie-tca> and asking for help doesn't seem to be either
[22:40] <knome> :)
[22:40] <charlie-tca> Oh, well, patience, right? :-)
[22:41] <knome> suppose so
[22:43] <charlie-tca> It is trying to work in a new installation of lucid
[22:43] <knome> ..but?
[22:44] <charlie-tca> Well, almost
[22:44] <knome> have you tried to run it from terminal, or can you even do that? :P
[22:44] <faron> I wonder if anyone could help me with a little problem I seem to be having updating the packages that I have that are installed in synaptic package manager ?
[22:44] <charlie-tca> but I need to run it in my working install
[22:44] <charlie-tca> Yup, I tried from the terminal, too
[22:45] <charlie-tca> It does require a gui to work, but there are terminal commands to see if it is working, and do some other stuff
[22:45] <charlie-tca> faron: what is the problem?
[22:45] <faron> went to synaptic package manager to search for which version of Firefox I had installed.Synaptic says that I have version 3.0.18+build+nob installed.I knew there was a newer verion out so in synaptic I clicked  "mark all upgrades".Synaptic then began a download.I was then asked if I wanted "default upgrade" or "smart upgrade".I clicked "smart".I then received this error...
[22:46] <faron> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_free_binary-i386_Packages)
[22:46] <faron> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_hardy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)...Can anyone tell me whaat to do now ?
[22:46] <charlie-tca> You are running 8.04 ?
[22:47] <faron> Uhhhhhm...804 or 801
[22:47] <charlie-tca> that would be 8.04
[22:47] <faron> Can you tell me how to be certain ?
[22:47] <knome> faron, there is no 8.01
[22:47] <charlie-tca> You just need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list in mousepad and delete one of the medibuntu entries
[22:48] <faron> there is an 810 though isn't there ?
[22:48] <charlie-tca> lsb_release -a will give the version
[22:48] <knome> charlie-tca, couldn't one *theoretically* do that from synaptic as well?
[22:48] <faron> 8.10
[22:48] <charlie-tca> I don't know how to do that in 8.04 using synaptic
[22:49] <knome> charlie-tca, right. :)
[22:49] <faron> lsb_release -a        says 8.044 hardy
[22:49] <charlie-tca> but, Yes, knome, is the answer, I guess
[22:49] <faron> 8.04
[22:49] <charlie-tca> You are going to upgrade to Xubuntu 10.04 in April, right?
[22:50] <charlie-tca> But all you have to do is remove one of the medibuntu entries
[22:50] <faron> Well I will as long as I don't end up losing all my files/folders I have created
[22:50] <charlie-tca> backup
[22:51] <faron> yes.....I have to learn how to do that backup thing
[22:51] <charlie-tca> support for 8.04 ends in when 10.04 is released
[22:51] <charlie-tca> no
[22:51] <charlie-tca> that was wrong, wasn't it.
[22:51] <knome> !eol
[22:51] <charlie-tca> 8.04 is good until 11.04
[22:52] <faron> can you tell me how to  edit the /etc/apt/sources.list in mousepad and delete one of the medibuntu entries
[22:52] <faron> I'm sorry........I know I must be a pain
[22:52] <charlie-tca> in a terminal, type   sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:53] <charlie-tca> It is just a simple editor application.
[22:53] <charlie-tca> use arrows to move down to the line with medibuntu in it, delete to delete the line, File -> Save to save the file when you are done
[22:54] <faron> okay that terminal prts done
[22:54] <robertwall> faron: Depending on how you set up medibuntu, the entries might instead be in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:54] <faron> charlie...could you make that a bit clearer ?
[22:57] <faron> I'm sorry..."delete to delete the line " ?
[22:57] <charlie-tca> knome, I got an answer: <ZykoticK9> charlie-tca, i can't even get UO with Ubuntu on Lucid...
[22:57] <charlie-tca> okay, faron
[22:57] <faron> hmmmmmm wait I think I understand
[22:57] <knome> charlie-tca, :)
[22:57] <charlie-tca> arrow down to the medibuntu line
[22:57] <charlie-tca> Use the delete key to get rid of the characters on that line
[22:59] <faron> there is a line that says......."deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free"........... del this one ?
[23:00] <charlie-tca> Is there two of those lines?
[23:01] <faron> no
[23:01] <faron> only 1
[23:01] <faron> it's a rather long file let me take a bit better look
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Then don't delete it
[23:05] <faron> Hmmmmmmm.It almost looks l;ike EVRYTHING is there twice.......Could I show you that whole file ?
[23:05] <faron> I'm sorry guys
[23:06] <charlie-tca> uh-oh
[23:06] <charlie-tca> You can use pastebin
[23:06] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[23:09] <faron> okay.........I believe you wil find the file @.........http://paste.ubuntu.com/391342/
[23:13] <faron> charlie-tca did that work ? Have you found that file from me ?
[23:13] <charlie-tca> just a minute, looking
[23:13] <faron> Darn ! This kind of stuff scares me.Heh,heh.Okay
[23:14] <faron> And,THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[23:14] <charlie-tca> exit the file
[23:15] <charlie-tca> do not delete anything
[23:15] <faron> okay
[23:15] <faron> okay.done
[23:15] <faron> nothing deletd
[23:15] <charlie-tca> in the terminal - ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:16] <faron> uh oh.command not found
[23:16] <charlie-tca> try again using
[23:17] <faron> using sudo mousepad ?
[23:17] <charlie-tca> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:17] <charlie-tca> no sudo, no mousepad
[23:18] <faron> hmmmmmm term comes back with...................medibuntu.list	medibuntu.list.save  pidgin-ppa.list  pidgin-ppa.list.save
[23:18] <charlie-tca> sorry, got a person helping me with ubuntu one
[23:18] <faron> no prob
[23:18] <lighta> hi guys, I'll need a little tips; sometime my eternet wifi card refuse to conect even if I found the network how can I turn it off and on again simply (to do a reset) command line would great
[23:18] <charlie-tca> Then you do have two entries
[23:19] <charlie-tca> faron: okay, going to edit again
[23:19] <faron> okay
[23:19] <charlie-tca> sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:19] <charlie-tca> arrow down to the last line, delete it
[23:20] <charlie-tca> looks like this: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
[23:21] <faron> okay deleted & saved
[23:21] <faron> now upgrade of Synaptic should work ?
[23:21] <charlie-tca> yup
[23:22] <faron> Alright ! I'll give a try ...........Thanks much Charlie
[23:22] <faron> be back to haunt you if no workee
[23:22] <lighta> do you have a clue for me charlie ?
[23:23] <knome> lighta, you should be able to disable/enable wireless when you right-click the icon with the connection information
[23:23] <lighta> I did that alredy knome, fact is doesn't work well
[23:23] <lighta> when I do that and set wifi network on nothing work
[23:23] <knome> lighta, afaik there's no "better way"
[23:24] <lighta> ok thx anyways
[23:24] <lighta> what I aiming is turning off wifi card and put it back does this right clik do this ?
[23:24] <lighta> cause all other solution that I found is a general reboot
[23:24] <knome> lighta, no.
[23:25] <lighta> oh so can't you tell how to do so ?
[23:25] <knome> i haven't had to do that ever. is it a laptop? is there a hardware button for on/off?
[23:26] <lighta> yes is a vaio sony laptop
[23:26] <lighta> there is a button yeah, but same result
[23:26] <knome> well, i could imagine that's the most complete reboot you can have without turning off power completely.
[23:28] <lighta> hmm comparison wouldn't be nice but I use to reload it on windows peripherical and work fine
[23:29] <faron> Okay.At least synaptice now says "successfully marked all upgrades" now what ?
[23:29] <faron> reload ?
[23:30] <lighta> I don't know but sound good in mean time
[23:30] <knome> lighta, i don't know. sorry. maybe somebody else is able to help you. you can also try #ubuntu, because this isn't a xubuntu specific issue
[23:31] <knome> i'll find my way to bed now, good luck & have fun everybody
[23:31] <lighta> ok thank knome
[23:32] <charlie-tca> heh, got ubuntuone working on lucid
[23:33] <faron> okay this is funny & I been having this issue for awhile now........seems that when I click on reload in synaptic it downs about 60 files & then it ends up telling me 0 toinstall/upgrade
[23:33] <faron> goodnight knome
[23:34] <faron> why would synaptic download that many files & then tell me that there is nothing to upgrade/install ?
[23:34] <charlie-tca> It has to verify that you have the up-to-date files already
[23:35] <charlie-tca> lighta: I don't know enough about wireless to be much use
[23:35] <faron> especially when we all kow there is a new version of firefox out ? In fact I think firefox has updated versions twice since the one I am running
[23:35] <charlie-tca> have you looked at the wireless docs?
[23:35] <charlie-tca> faron: firefox for 8.04 is locked at 3.0
[23:35] <charlie-tca> You might be able to upgrade from a ppa on launchpad
[23:35] <faron> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so that's how it works
[23:36] <charlie-tca> that's LTS
[23:36] <charlie-tca> Aimed at businesses and servers, where they don't want changes if possible
[23:37] <faron> ahhhhhh.okay then
[23:37] <lighta> charlie-tca, all sony doc only for this stupid windows and in fact it's only a linux issue. I just need how to reload this driver and would be fine, well hope so anyways thx for help^
[23:38] <charlie-tca> Here, see if this helps, then
[23:38] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[23:43] <faron> Okay.....let ma ask this.......I've had some problems recently with a FF update that I was rtying to install.Well,I canceled the update because I thought it was stuck.May have been a bad idea...lost all my bkkmks etc in FF ANDtook all files/folders off desktop & put them all in one I had on there called "funny pics".Well,person who installed this xubuntu for me told me to uninstall/reinstall all FF plugins.DO you think I need to do
[23:44] <faron> really ticked me off that that happened.I just couldn't believe it
[23:44] <charlie-tca> I don't know if that would do anything, unless something isn't working in firefox
[23:45] <charlie-tca> You would have to check the plugins out. does java work? does utube videos work? etc
[23:45] <charlie-tca> If it ain't broke, don't fix it
[23:45] <faron> everything seems to be working.....although when that happened it did uninstall adblock plus & another pluginb I had installed
[23:46] <faron> I agree aint broke don't
[23:49] <faron> Here,let me ask this though........I seem to have an awful lot of plugins installed.I don't quite recall installing all of these............
[23:51] <charlie-tca> what is a lot?
[23:51] <faron> default plugin,demo print plugin for unix/linux,divx browser plugin ,java plugin,mplayer plugin,quicktime plugin,realplayer9,shockwave flash & windows media player plugin in.................
[23:51] <faron> do I need all of those ??
[23:54] <charlie-tca> Only if you watch videos or play music on line
[23:55] <faron> hmmmmmmm,okay.I just wan't sure if I needed ALL of those.It just seemed like a bit toomuch............
[23:56] <faron> I like to watch Craig Ferguson online & maybe 2 1/2 me right now but that's because sattelite got turned off :-(
[23:57] <faron> as far as music goes right now I usually use songza
[23:59] <faron> Hey charlie.....maybe you could tell me.......I've heard that it's possible to use mplayer to replace flashplayer.Is that tru ?mplayer seems to work so much better than flash.I sure would like to be able to use it instead to watch my 2 cbs show