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crimsunpgraner: hi00:21
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imbrandonok so i did a bit of googlin but my google-fu dosent seem to work, since my upgrade to 9.10 ( headless server ) my nic seems to goto sleep after a while ( even with activity ) , is there a way to tell the kernel/driver NOT to put the nic to sleep ?02:59
imbrandonever03:00
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JFoimbrandon, what hardware?03:55
imbrandonJFo, via c7 proc ( x86 ) and the network cards are a rtl and a rine-ii04:18
imbrandonboth cards seems to be effected04:18
imbrandonJFo, here is the output of uname,lspci,and /proc/cpuinfo04:21
imbrandonroot@enterprise:~# uname -a04:21
imbrandonLinux enterprise 2.6.31-20-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 8 09:05:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux04:21
imbrandonroot@enterprise:~# cat /etc/issue04:21
imbrandonUbuntu 9.10 \n \l04:21
imbrandonroot@enterprise:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo 04:21
imbrandonprocessor: 004:21
imbrandonvendor_id: CentaurHauls04:21
imbrandoncpu family: 604:21
imbrandonmodel: 1004:21
imbrandonmodel name: VIA Esther processor 1500MHz04:21
imbrandonstepping: 904:21
imbrandoncpu MHz: 1496.42504:21
imbrandoncache size: 128 KB04:21
imbrandonfdiv_bug: no04:21
imbrandonhlt_bug: no04:21
imbrandonf00f_bug: no04:21
imbrandoncoma_bug: no04:21
imbrandonfpu: yes04:21
imbrandonfpu_exception: yes04:21
imbrandoncpuid level: 104:21
imbrandonwp: yes04:21
imbrandonflags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm nx up pni rng rng_en ace ace_en ace2 ace2_en phe phe_en pmm pmm_en04:21
imbrandonbogomips: 2992.8504:21
imbrandonclflush size: 6404:21
imbrandonpower management:04:21
imbrandonroot@enterprise:~# lspci04:21
imbrandon00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge04:21
imbrandon00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge04:22
imbrandon00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)04:22
imbrandon00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)04:22
imbrandon00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)04:22
imbrandon00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)04:22
imbrandon00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)04:22
imbrandon00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)04:22
imbrandon00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)04:22
imbrandon00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)04:22
imbrandon00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 04:22
imbrandonshut04:22
imbrandonhttp://imbrandon.pastebin.com/tFCFMptx04:22
imbrandonsorry wrong paste04:22
imbrandoni'm assuming its the nic that goes to sleep because the system cannot be reached via ssh/smb/nfs/http when it happens04:24
imbrandonbut proceses still seem to run04:24
imbrandonand nothing i can see in dmesg about it04:24
imbrandonbut the nic "wakes" when i pound on a keyboard thats attached, but its headless04:25
imbrandonand resumes ssh sessions and http sessions etc as is it was never off04:25
apwcooloney, so what missed the cut?  how big is it?  how well tested is it?13:37
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cndapw, did the hid configuration get switched to a module?14:17
apwcnd, i am considering it now, why?14:17
cndsorry, connection dropped14:20
cndapw, I was mostly just wondering if there was any more thought given to it14:20
apwi was considering commiting it if it boots ok14:21
cndI would agree with that14:21
cndapw: also I have that patch to lower the log level of acpi resource conflicts14:23
cndI sent it to linux-acpi, it was refined according to what was stated there14:23
apwthats just logging level change right?14:23
cndbut I've not heard anything back since14:23
apwso we can do that after the beta14:23
cndapw, at this point it's a log level change + message cleanup14:24
cndusing %pR instead of [0x%lx-0x%lx]14:24
apwstill minor14:24
cndapw, I'm just not too familiar with their process, so I don't know when I'll hear anything back14:25
cndso I guess keep it in mind for whenever you feel we need to make a decision on it14:25
apwif they are happy you may hear nothing14:25
cndyeah, but their git tree hasn't been updated either14:25
cndit's probably sitting in a queue of patches ready to be applied :)14:26
tgardnercnd, thats just Len. He takes awhile sometimes.14:26
cndtgardner: ok, likely he'll have it applied before we have to make a decision without them?14:26
tgardnernot necessarily, but for something that minor we can make our own decision14:27
cndyeah14:27
cndjust let me know if you need to make a decision basically14:27
cndsince I'm new to the process I just don't know when that point is for lucid14:27
tgardnercnd, have we seen the patch on the k-t list yet? I don't recall14:28
cndtgardner: no, but I can send it if you'd like14:28
tgardnercnd, its likely the only way it'll get considered :)14:28
cndok14:28
cndwill do14:28
tgardnercnd, P.S. since that patch will come post-freeze it'll also have to have an SRU justification.14:29
cndtgardner: ok, so I just need to put an SRU justification note in the bug, right?14:30
cndor also in the message sent to k-t?14:30
tgardnercnd, SRU justifications only exist in the LP report. the SRU team doesn't follow the k-t list14:31
cndok14:31
tgardnerthough it doesn't hurt to add it in teh commit log message14:31
cndbdmurray: I see the wording of the "patch" checkbox when making an attachment is more clear that it's for solutions only14:47
cndthanks :)14:47
JFobdmurray, at what 'age' do those patch cases show up in the patch view you showed me?14:52
bdmurrayJFo: it should just show all of them, no age limit required15:17
JFobdmurray, it doesn't seem to be15:17
JFoI only had 2 in the list the other day that were in an open state15:17
JFothe rest were Fix Released15:17
JFoit is only giving me 97 items15:18
JFohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.has_patch=on15:18
JFotells me that there are 113 items15:19
JFolet me look a bit deeper15:19
bdmurrayhrm the 2nd link is just linux bugs and the kernel-bugs one should be more15:19
JFoyeah, none of these are Fix Released15:19
JFobdmurray, I agree15:20
JFo:)15:20
JFojust wanted to give you some timely feedback after my initial investigation15:20
JFoor rather I hope it is timely :)15:20
bdmurrayokay, thanks I'll look into it later today15:21
bjf**15:24
bjf** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting15:24
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JFobdmurray, np15:25
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JFobryceh, have you issued a Call for Testing for the DRM stuff that was backported from the .33 kernel?17:22
brycehJFo, nope17:23
JFodo you want me to do that?17:23
brycehJFo, however I did do targeted bug spamming around it to specific bug reports on -ati and -intel17:23
brycehJFo, yeah go for it17:23
JFobryceh, I can include whomever you want if there are any specific lists/etc.17:24
JFowill do17:24
brycehJFo, write your email with care, lest you end up with way more bug reports than you bargained for ;-)17:24
JFooh btw bryceh, I am still chugging through that list you provided me of bugs to assign to the kernel task. Just wanted you to know I had not forgotten it17:24
apwmanjo, that reminds me, you skipped suspend/resume so quick that i didn't get to say anything17:24
brycehah great17:24
apwbut ... we did get your patch in, and i am seeing some benefits already ... one bug where the battery is fingered as taking 10s to resume17:25
manjoapw, only thing that remains is frequency based suspend resume 17:25
brycehJFo, I've been bumping a bunch more your way as I run across more drm bugs.  seems quite a few17:25
JFobryceh, I noticed a few more were tagged17:25
JFoyep, I've seen them17:25
JFobryceh, I'll keep that page to check periodically17:25
JFoso that you don't have to ping me on them17:25
manjoapw, yes I also need to get the arsenal stuff in place so that I can start mass responding to those suspend resume stuff17:25
brycehI try to clearly mark ones that look like the new drm will fix them so hopefully those should be pretty straightforward to close17:26
brycehJFo, great17:26
JFobryceh, sounds good to me17:26
manjoapw, currently over whelmed with this netbook stuff that seems to be put on high priority 17:26
apwmanjo, k17:26
manjoapw, what did you have in mind wrt to suspend resume ? that you think I skipped over ? 17:27
apw<apw> but ... we did get your patch in, and i am seeing some benefits already ... one bug where the battery is fingered as taking 10s to resume17:27
apwi was going to say that your patch was in and proving useful17:27
manjoah! thanks 17:27
apwjfo is the arsenal running at least the basic things automatically yet17:28
JFobryceh, I'll CC you on the Call for Testing so that it hits your radar17:28
apwlike the linux-meta retarget thing ...17:28
manjoI would like some arsanel edu from JFo 17:28
JFoapw, it is running in dry run. I am looking over its results daily for those that it should be catching17:28
JFoI should have the basics running real mode by the end of tomorrow17:28
JFothey are on my list17:29
apwJFo, is it failing often enough that at least that one test can't go live?17:29
JFoI just hadn't gotten to them yet17:29
bjfapw, manjo, I can add that to the meeting minutes anyway17:29
apwJFo, ok17:29
JFoapw, no, it seems to be solid17:29
apwbjf, thanks17:29
brycehJFo, oh cc ubuntu-x@ - we've got a lot of X oriented folks there who might participate17:29
JFojust wanted to wait until I could focus on it and be sure that the changes I put in do not break them17:29
JFobryceh, will do17:29
manjoapw, wonder if we could drop frequency based suspend resume from the blueprint 17:30
manjoand move it to M+17:30
apwmanjo, if we arn't going to get to it we can postpone it17:30
apwand it'll go yellow17:30
apw(on the graph)17:30
manjoapw, is that bad ? 17:30
manjoor how bad is it on us ? 17:31
apwits not sounding that important, and we'll be turning off apport before release ... so not the end of the world17:31
manjoapw, coz I rather get real issues fixed instead 17:31
apwyep, fine with me17:31
apwpush it POSTPONED 17:32
manjook17:32
brycehJFo, btw I don't know if you saw my email to the platform team list but I've been auto-tagging bugs 'lucid' to differentiate out bugs that definitely affect lucid from those that might just be reports against old releases17:32
manjoJFo, can we get some skype time together this week or so and talk about arsenal ? 17:32
brycehJFo, this has really helped me in narrowing down on the bugs I have to worry about17:32
JFoyep, I saw it. Great stuff... just like what I am trying to do for kernel17:32
manjoJFo, I need some schooling 17:32
JFomanjo, sure17:33
brycehJFo, am thinking that approach could help you guys out too17:33
JFobryceh, every bit helps :)17:33
JFoabsolutely17:33
apwbryceh, iwe have an arsenal script for that too :)17:33
apwmost of our bugs are already tagged as apport now does it17:33
JFobryceh, we started implementing, but I admit I got distracted17:33
brycehapw, awesome :-)17:33
manjoJFo, just setup a time you are free ... sit on the porch with a cigar and team me ... 17:33
JFomanjo, ok17:33
apwJFo, we already have it17:33
JFoapw, I know17:33
JFobut I haven't been doing it manually like I needed to :)17:34
* apw looks confused for a second, then moves on17:34
manjoJFo, send out a mail so that if anyone wants to listen in can... 17:34
JFowill do manjo 17:35
manjoJFo, thanks a ton 17:35
JFomy pleasure17:35
apwbryceh, what was that tag you added when you needed a kernel fix for a graphics bug?17:36
manjoapw, JFo there was an idea to opensource the kernel-qa & reporting scripts that we have so that the locos can have their on testing workshop etc ... 17:37
brycehapw, it is 'xorg-needs-kernel-fix'17:37
manjoapw, JFo something we can talk about at UDS or some place we meet 17:37
brycehapw, which I've sort of regretted picking because it takes way too much typing ;-)17:37
JFoand 'resolution'17:37
brycehapw, but it's in finger-muscle memory now so not too bad17:37
JFomanjo, yep17:38
JFobryceh, heh17:38
manjoJFo, something you can add to your track at UDS17:38
brycehother tags we use for X are docced at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Tagging17:38
JFomanjo, sounds good17:38
brycehthe tags 'freeze', 'edid', 'tv-out', 'font-size', 'resolution' and maybe 'black-screen' are ones likely to be drm bugs for drivers using KMS17:40
brycehso those possibly might be worthwhile tags to consider adding to the kernel bug tags list17:41
JFoI've seen some ones tagged edid17:41
JFowith kernel tasks17:42
JFobryceh, I guess the big issue is making sure I don't Invalidate the xorg task on ones that should retain it17:42
brycehJFo, be aggressive17:42
JFoheh17:43
JFook, will do17:43
brycehJFo, generally from what I've seen when a bug is identified as needing a drm fix, it'll just need a kernel patch to fix, and there's not work to be done on the x side17:43
brycehif it turns out there is, someone can always reopen the X task later when the work is clear17:43
JFobryceh, cool, I thought so, but that seemed like additional work17:44
JFo:)17:44
JFo<-trying to be a bit more efficient if possible17:44
brycehJFo, sure use your judgment and if in doubt leave the task.  I'm pretty aggressive at pruning them though17:46
JFosounds good bryceh 17:47
JFothanks17:47
apwmanjo, whats going on with bug #49121017:50
ubot3Malone bug 491210 in linux "[i865G] Monitor Resolution limited to 800x600" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49121017:50
apwmanjo, sorry missed, bug #50714817:50
ubot3Malone bug 507148 in linux "[lucid] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50714817:50
manjojust a sec17:50
JFobryceh, I just subscribed to the X ML, I wasn't aware that I wasn't already subscribed. :)17:55
JFosorry about that17:55
JFowill resend in a bit17:55
brycehJFo, kewl.  it's pretty low traffic17:55
manjoapw, talking to jdstrand .. give me a few mts 17:55
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manjoapw, skype you ?18:11
apwsure18:11
manjoyour offline 18:12
apwyou're18:12
jonotgardner, has linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic now built ready for me to test?18:49
tgardnerjono, yep18:55
tgardnerjono, you want linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (2.6.32-16.7) lucid; urgency=low18:56
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cndtgardner: is the lbm firmware any different than the linux-image firmware?19:23
tgardnercnd, the files that exist there are no different, but the 6K firmware is new, and they may change during the Lucid life cycle19:25
cndtgardner: 6k firmware?19:25
cnd6050 by any chance?19:25
* cnd has a 6050 card, waiting for fw to drop from intel to be able to use it19:26
cndlooks like just 6000 firmware...19:29
cndtgardner: I just looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic, but it doesn't list any files in the package19:30
cndis this the package you are pointing jono at?19:30
tgardnercnd, thats a meta package19:30
cndoh19:31
cndok19:31
cndlet's see, where's the real package...19:31
cndyep, just the 6000 firmware, oh well19:32
cndhmmm... I'm beginning to wonder if cking's arrandale TSC issue isn't arrandale specific...20:33
tgardnerhuh, I have a Radeon Xpress 200M that works pretty well in Lucid21:10
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dyekHi! Any idea why using Ubuntu 9.10's vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic as DomU causes this Xen error? Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'elf_xen_note_check: ERROR: Will only load images built for the generic loader or Linux images') What is not generic loader about Ubuntu 9.10's -generic kernel?23:30
jjohansendyek: what are you trying to load?23:32
dyekjjohansen: I'm currently using CentOS 5.4 as Dom0 (with a recent Xen hypervisor package -- Xen 3.4.2) and attempting to boot Ubuntu 9.10's kernel as DomU (I copied Ubuntu's kernel to Dom0's FS manually.)23:34
jjohansendyek: hrm, i386 or x86_64?23:35
dyekjjohansen: CentOS Dom0 is x86_64, but Ubuntu is i386.23:36
jjohansendyek: do you have an initrd, initramfs23:36
dyekjjohansen: I know I have initrd -- I copied the entire Ubuntu's /boot directory into Dom0's FS, naming it /boot_ubuntu.23:37
dyekjjohansen: Not sure about initramfs.23:38
jjohansendyek: initramfs is just a replacement for initrd23:38
jjohansenokay you should be good there then23:38
jjohansento be clear this is Dom0 complaining about the 9.10 kernel right?23:39
dyekjjohansen: Yes. "xm create" results in the error.23:40

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