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imbrandondirecthex, anything i can help with on the mono/u1ms bindings ?00:34
imbrandoni've got time over the next few days to throw at it if needed00:34
lfaraoneIf a package is in Debian NEW, can I request a motu-release ACK (for a FFE) for it at that point, or do I still need to go through REVU? (NEW seems to have several weeks of backlog)02:06
persialfaraone: Only ftpmasters can pull from NEW, so it needs to go somewhere.02:10
lfaraonepersia: well, it'd also be in mentors.02:10
lifelessNEW is stalled02:10
persialfaraone: But that a package is in NEW counts as one of two developer advocations, in my book.02:10
lfaraonepersia: (and I've had packages synced from NEW before freezes before :) )02:11
persiaWhere is bdefreese when one needs him :)02:11
persialfaraone: You've never had a package synched from NEW (although it may have appeared that way).02:11
persiaThe set of people who can see NEW doesn't happen to include any of the set of people that can perform a sync.02:12
lifelesssyncing from NEW would be bad02:12
persiaIt's *not* possible.02:13
persiaAnyway, back to the matter at hand.02:13
persiaThere exists a package that was reviewed/advocated by a Debian Developer.02:13
persiaJust needs some Ubuntu Developer to advocate and upload it.02:13
persiaNeeds an FFe, same as any new package.02:14
lfaraonepersia: okay, thanks.02:14
persiaIf it's already on mentors, no need to separately upload to REVU.  mentors works fine for review.02:14
lfaraonepersia: would you have a chance to advocate http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-packages?action=details;package=groundcontrol then? :)02:22
lfaraone(so I can file for a FFe)02:22
persialfaraone: File for the FFe first.  Subscribe me.  I've reviewed that package enough times before that I'm confident I'll be advocating and uploading with the FFe approved.02:24
Linux000I am trying to debug a python based application that calls multiple other python files, I was wondering if there was a way to view what python file is calling a certain definition in another file?02:34
persiaLinux000: Do you have a crash, or just undesireable behaviour?02:34
Linux000The app still runs, but only in a loop, i.e. I run the app, it should launch a graphical window, however it prints an error out to the log without stopping, not sure what to call it02:37
persiaThat's a loop :)02:37
lfaraonepersia: done, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/48680702:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 486807 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] groundcontrol" [Wishlist,In progress]02:37
* persia isn't good at debugging loops02:37
persialfaraone: Cool.  OI've put it on my TODO list.  When it gets ubuntu-release feedback, I'll do something more complicated.02:38
Linux000Okay, I found what file is causing the loop(I think) I just need to know what process is calling it02:38
persiaCheck with the folk in #ubuntu-bugs : they tend to have expertise in debugging.  I don't happen to know the python equivalent of `set -x`02:39
lifelessthere isn't one02:40
lifelesshowever02:40
lfaraonepersia: there isn't one, you can only use pdb.02:40
lifelesspython -m pdb <pythonscript>02:40
persiaLinux000: ^^02:40
lifelesswill run in pdb, and when it breaks leave you in jit debugging mode02:40
Linux000lifeless: Thanks02:40
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mattva01just a quick question, having an issue with cdbs's debhelper.mk calling dh_installinfo and having it catch a metadata containing file with a .info extension. Is there anyway to alter or turn off this behavior?03:32
mattva01just a quick question, having an issue with cdbs's debhelper.mk calling dh_installinfo and having it catch a metadata containing file with a .info extension. Is there anyway to alter or turn off this behavior?03:38
mattva01oops03:38
jayvee$ virsh -c qemu:///system start CentOS04:01
jayveeerror: Failed to start domain CentOS04:01
jayveeerror: internal error Unable to find cgroup for CentOS04:01
jayveeThis was working yesterday. KVM starts fine standalone, too. Any ideas?04:02
jayveeoops, thought I was on #ubuntu-server — sorry about that04:03
zookoGreetings, people of #ubuntu-motu!04:13
zookoCould someone please test this package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tahoe-lafs/+bug/52935004:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 529350 in tahoe-lafs "please upgrade Tahoe-LAFS in Lucid to v1.6.1 of Tahoe-LAFS" [Undecided,In progress]04:21
jayveegreetings zooko04:29
zookojayvee: Hi there04:29
jayveezooko, do you run ubuntu?05:04
zookojayvee: yes, but I don't have an ubuntu machine to hand at the moment.05:07
jayveezooko, can I provide an ubuntu vm for you to test in?05:07
jayveeI'd do more testing, except I have no idea how to work this software05:08
zookojayvee: it is easy! http://allmydata.org/source/tahoe-lafs/trunk/docs/running.html05:10
zooko:-)05:10
zookoOh wait, somebody has added a lot of words to that page.05:10
jayveeI'm reading that, and not getting very far05:10
zookoWhy not?05:11
zookoSounds like I need to file a bug report on that page. :_)05:11
jayveeoh, just the feedback I'm getting is not very descriptive05:13
jayvee"introducer node probably started"05:13
jayveeI'm basically expecting to see "tahoe successfully started, browse to this_url to view contents"05:14
jayveebut maybe I'm just a simpleton05:14
jayvee'tahoe run' blocks with no feedback. I presume that's intentional (no news is good news), but a little disconcerting to someone who has never used it before.05:16
jayveeI ran 'tahoe start .' and 'tahoe run', and yet nothing is listening on port 3456.05:18
jayveethe documentation (using.html) says that should be the case05:19
zookoCould you check logs/twistd.log05:20
zookohttp://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/71#comment:1705:24
jayveenevow.appserver.NevowSite starting on 345605:36
jayveeshould be working :/05:37
jayveeah, I think I found the problem05:37
jayveemy localhost is only set to ::1 /etc/hosts05:37
jayveeand tahoe only binds to 127.0.0.105:37
jayveeso of course browsing to localhost:3456 won't work05:38
zookojayvee aha! Interesting. Thanks. Will ticket that.05:38
jayveeI think it stems from the fact that you're using twisted05:38
jayveewhich doesn't support ipv605:39
zookoWe can control what we bind to.05:39
jayveenope, ::1 is ipv605:39
zookoI prefer 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost because I've heard reports of the05:39
zookoHm.05:39
jayveeyou can't bind to it, as you need an AF_INET6 socket, not AF_INET socket05:39
jayveeand twisted doesn't support that05:39
jayveewhich is silly, because ipv4 is going to get real real small in the very near future05:39
jayveenot so much for the localhost issue, but the inter-node connectivity05:40
ScottKFor a reasonably large value of near, sure.05:40
zookoI see. So what should we do? Perhaps you could open the ticket? On http://tahoe-lafs.org . Just say that you couldn't connect to the wui-wapi port when following the instructions due to this issue.05:40
jayveefrom what I read, tahoe needs an open port on a public IP address on a server node05:40
jayveewith the ipv4 apocalypse, NATs will make that difficult if not impossible to acheive05:41
zookoThere are a few different issues here.05:41
jayveeyeah, sorry for confusing this05:41
zookoThe very narrow one, which is not currently ticketed and which I would appreciate you ticketing, is that you got this silent failure to connect your wui-wapi client to the web gateway on port 3456.05:42
zookoOpen that ticket, and maybe we can make it fail louder, or something. At the very least we can close it "wontfix" and then we'll have a ticket to point to.05:42
jayveeactually, looks like I misunderstood the documentation05:42
jayveetahoe run and tahoe start are the same05:42
zookoOr also we could fix it by twisted learning IPv6...05:42
jayveeone runs as a daemon, one does not05:42
jayveenever seen that behaviour before05:42
jayveeI always see -d or --fork used for those sorts of options05:43
jayveeor --daemon05:43
zookoHm...05:43
jayveebut that's just a usability issue05:43
zooko"just" a usability issue, indeed. :-)05:43
jayveeso I accidentally pressed tab, started typing, and then xchat quit this channel05:44
jayveethat's an xchat usability issue ;)05:44
zookoI think that one is *not* exactly http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/71 but deserves a new ticket of its own which links to http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/71 .05:44
zookoHm... maybe it is this: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/35505:46
jayveeso am I right in guessing that 'tahoe start' and 'tahoe start $HOME/.tahoe' are synonymous?05:46
ajmitch    05:48
jayveezooko, as a point of comparison, this is what upstart gives me05:53
jayvee$ sudo start mythtv-backend05:53
jayveemythtv-backend start/running, process 1706005:53
jayveemuch more satisfying. even printing the PID makes me much more confident.05:53
zookojayvee: you are right in so guessing. Also that is stated in the --help usage text isn't it?06:00
jayveenope06:01
zookore: PID: duly noted: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/71#comment:2006:01
jayveeone other thing is that there is no tahoe man page06:02
jayveeI take it none has been written upstream?06:02
jayveesurprised that wasn't picked up by lintian06:02
jayveelintian normally warns when there is no man page06:03
zookoOkay I think I have ticketed all of your observations so far except:06:08
zooko1. no man page06:08
zooko2. the problem you had with connecting over localhost because you use IPv606:09
zooko3. No doc (that you could find...) saying that tahoe start basedir defaults to $HOME/.tahoe06:09
zooko4. You were confused by "tahoe run" vs. "tahoe start" and expected a -d or --fork or --daemon06:10
zookoI will ticket #1 and #3 because I think I understand them well enough. Will you please ticket #2 and #4?06:11
zookohttp://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/984# no man page06:12
zookohttp://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/985# tahoe start --help should mention that --basedir defaults to $HOME/.tahoe06:13
jayveeokay, sure06:23
jayveehmm, also, I presumed 'tahoe start .' wasn't synonymous with 'tahoe start -C .'06:25
jayveemaybe I'm just completely of the wrong mindset to be using this program :)06:25
jayveezooko, #2 isn't a problem with tahoe06:26
jayveeit was a problem on my end — my fault06:26
jayveenot having localhost also resolve to 127.0.0.1 is a bad idea06:26
jayveeI think I did it at the time to see how much it would break things, and forgot about it06:26
jayveewhat #2 should be is "tahoe-lafs should support IPv6", but given that you're handcuffed by twisted, there is nothing you can do about it06:27
jayveeyou'll have to either wait until twisted supports ipv6, or ditch twisted altogether (which I can't see happening)06:27
zookojayvee: that's http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/867 (use ipv6)06:40
jayveeaha06:40
zookojayvee: okay, forget about #2 then.06:41
zookoNow let's see... That thing about "tahoe start ." vs. "tahoe start -C ". I think that's http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/772 .06:42
zookoCould you please add a note to that ticket saying that you experienced this issue?06:43
zookoIt looks like David-Sarah assigned it to themselves and put it into the v1.7.0 milestone already, but your comment could help.06:43
zookoOkay I think I'm just waiting for you to open a ticket for #4 and then I'm done for tonight. :-)06:43
zookoThank you very much for the usability testing!06:44
jayveeunintentional usability testing ;)06:44
jayveewriting it now06:45
zookoI suppose that's the best kind. ;-)06:46
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jayveezooko, what milestone?06:48
jayveeactually, I'll leave it 'undecided'06:48
zookoYeah06:50
zookoTag it "usability" and David-Sarah will be sure to notice it. ;-)06:50
jayveezooko, http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/98606:50
jayveeI haven't seen any problems that I wouldn't expect to be as a result of packaging so far06:51
jayveeso from my perspective, it's no worse off than 1.6.0 in terms of regressions06:51
jayveeof couse, I still haven't actually got it working with the public grid yet06:52
jayveeso my testing isn't exactly thorough so far06:52
jayveezooko, I have the introducer set in .tahoe/tahoe.cfg, but "Connected to introducer?: no"06:53
zookoHeh heh Here is a useful page for testing:06:53
zookohttp://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/wiki/TestGrid06:53
jayveezooko, yeah, on that06:53
zookoYou can take those hyperlinks and put your host and port num in and see if you can see each of those kinds of file.06:53
zookojayvee: okay, didn't connect to introducer. You put into your .cfg something like "introducer.furl = pb://todjw7qkb4dgq4fkeo7cqydcu5vneioh@tahoecs2.allmydata.com:52106/introducer" ?06:54
jayveeyes06:54
jayveeexcept the pb:// URL in quotes06:55
zookoI think that's wrong.06:55
jayveeah06:55
jayveeI presumed it was Python syntax06:55
zookoCheck the twistd.log and the logs/incidents06:55
zookoto see if it was trying to tell you that it was wrong.06:55
jayveebased on the 'None' keyword that was there by default06:55
zookoMan you are really good at this accidental usability testing.06:55
jayveeaha, "Connected to introducer?: yes" now06:55
jayveeNone is a reserved word in Python, so I replaced it with equally valid Python syntax :)06:56
zookoOh look someone beat you to it: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/649 (Validation of configuration settings)06:56
zookondurner06:56
jayveeheh06:57
zookoCould you please find the error in logs/incidents?06:57
zookoCheck the timestamps of the files. I guess the most recent one.06:57
zookoUnless you already discovered a new bug. :-)06:57
zookoThen run "flogtool dump $LOGFILENAME | less", then see if there is a stack trace saying that it couldn't parse the config file.06:58
jayvee   File "/home/amduser/trees/tahoe/support/lib/python2.5/site-packages/foolscap-0.4.2-py2.5.egg/foolscap/pb.py", line 741, in getReferenceForName06:59
jayvee     raise KeyError("unable to find reference for name '%s'" % (name,))06:59
jayvee exceptions.KeyError: 'unable to find reference for name \'introducer"\''06:59
zookoPlease cut and paste the stack trace and any other such relevant stuff into http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/ticket/64906:59
zookoThank you very much!06:59
zookoI'll tag that ticket as "usability".07:00
jayveezooko, done07:02
jayveezooko, what does "To do that you'll need to know which port tahoe is listening on as, by default, it listens on an arbitrary port number." mean?07:05
jayveearbitrary means "explicitly set" in my mind07:05
zookoIs this doc about the port forwarding?07:05
jayveeso isn't that the exact opposite meaning of what you want?07:05
zookoIt listens on a randomly-selected port number by default.07:05
jayveeyeah, docs/running.html07:05
jayveeah, that's the exact opposite of arbitrary07:05
zookoBut, then it writes it down into its tahoe.cfg so that it will listen on the same one next time07:06
jayveeyou *want* an arbitrary port for port forwarding07:06
jayveeso in the docs, s/arbitrary/random/07:06
zookoUnless I am misremembering, the first time you run it, it is random (by your definition), and then the second time it is arbitrary.07:06
jayveeactually, I got no such port written down in the config. my tahoe.cfg is untouched. :)07:06
zookoOh. Hm.07:06
jayveeactually07:07
zookoOkay, yeah, you are right.07:07
jayvee.tahoe/client-port07:07
jayveeis 60181. is that it?07:07
zookoAha! Cool. Sounds right.07:07
zookoSo the docs need to explain about that file. Maybe docs/configuration.txt already does.07:07
jayveeyeah, it kinda gives the wrong impression07:07
jayveethere's no harm in saying that on first run it picks a random port and stores it in a file called client.port07:08
jayvee:)07:08
jayveeanyways, I'd better let you get to bed, zooko07:09
zookoYou have done a fine job of accidental usability testing. You're still going to ticket your #4 issue, right?07:12
zookoCould you type up a sentence of English which would go in the appropriate spot to explain that it picks a random port and stores it in that file? You can open a ticket, attach it to some extant ticket, mail it to me, or mail it to tahoe-dev. I'm too sleepy to know which.07:13
zookoOh I see you already did #4. Thanks!07:14
jayveeyeah07:14
jayveeoops, I forgot to paste you the URL07:14
jayveeI actually have it in my clipboard still07:15
zookoOkay, I fall asleep now! Thanks a lot!07:18
jayvee'night, zooko07:19
wzssyqahi,i am dh $@,and $@ is a command seq,but what is it?07:32
Rhondawzssyqa: Can you reword your question? I don't understand it …07:35
wzssyqaRhonda: in default rules,there is dh $@,what is it?07:35
RhondaThat is makefile magic for having every target served by debhelper.07:36
StevenK$@ expands to the current target name07:36
wzssyqao,thanks07:36
wzssyqathe man dh says that is is a command seq07:37
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RhondaPeople tend to disagree with me, but you just confirmed that that approach isn't really clear or better and more helpful or readable. :)07:38
dholbachgood morning07:40
* Rhonda still wonders where or what is getting discussed with respect to the libsdl issue.08:05
RhondaAnd I also wonder why bug #203158 isn't set to Fix Released yet, won't this enter Lucid? :/08:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203158 in pulseaudio "libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio must be installed as default by libsdl1.2debian" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20315808:07
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asacpersia: do you know if with source format 3.0 there is an option to say: "dont even try to create a diff when building sources"?11:16
asaclike debuild -S --ignore-diff11:16
asac;)11:16
asacthat would give me an incentive to use it for big packages ;)11:16
asacrather than embedded tarball11:16
persiaasac: I don't think there is such an option, but I'm not 100% sure.  Someone more familiar with format 3.0 may be able to answer better.11:18
asacif it wouldnt be perl i would even feel to just implement it ;)11:21
asacnow it needs a few more days of sleep before i can convince myself looking seriously11:22
asac;)11:22
persiaasac: dpkg always appreciates more love :)11:24
c_kornhello. can someone please check if this sync request is correct ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scilab/+bug/533746 requestsync crashed but it created the bug report.11:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 533746 in scilab "Sync scilab 5.2.1-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]11:26
ograasac, you can convince yourself to look serious ?11:27
* ogra wishes he could do that sometimes ... but i always look silly11:27
asaclol11:30
persiac_korn: Looks good to me.  Please add a note that this is expected to fix a FTBFS on <list of architectures> in the description.11:38
c_kornpersia: done, thanks.11:42
persiajpds: The ubumirror crontab suggests running as the ubumirror user, but the ubumirror package doesn't create such a user.  Is this a bug, or a design feature to make it not work for some folk?12:23
stefanlsdThere is a FFE that was ack'd thats a sync from debian. Is there a process to sync this, or can i download the debian version and just upload it?12:50
persiastefanlsd: Subscribe the archive-admins12:50
persia(same as for any sync)12:51
stefanlsdpersia: thx12:51
jpdspersia: Design.13:02
persiajpds: Then I won't fix it :)  Thanks.13:03
jpdspersia: Most mirrors use a ubuntu/ftpadm/mirror user.13:03
persiaMakes sense.  And reasonable to assume some intelligence on the part of anyone mirroring large chunks of stuff.13:04
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mok0james_w: ping13:43
Laneywhy did my ubuntu-dev-tools lose credentials?14:04
Laneyffs14:05
LaneyI need to debug these lockups14:05
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_AndrewAnyone know how I create a menu item where it opens a web page under the default browser?14:19
* persia thought there was a special format for that in .desktop files14:20
LaneyIs that part of the contract of x-www-browser?14:20
geserwhat about xdg-open?14:21
persia_Andrew: yr Type=Link and URL=...14:21
persia_Andrew: If that doesn't work, Exec=sensible-browser ${URL}14:21
ograor xdg-open ${URL} ;)14:21
persiahttp://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/index.html14:21
* persia has the debian-way hardcoded, and the XDG-way is a continuous learning process14:22
_AndrewThanks14:24
wzssyqahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/391821/15:20
wzssyqait will compile twice,why?15:21
randomactionwzssyqa: because clean depends on build-stamp?15:22
wzssyqarandomaction: o,what should i do?15:22
randomactiontry removing this dependency15:23
wzssyqarandomaction: i will try15:23
wzssyqarandomaction: for this file,whit obj will be exesced first?15:26
randomactionobj?15:26
wzssyqaclean: etc15:27
persiawzssyqa: "target" or "rule"15:27
wzssyqapersia: and now,for http://paste.ubuntu.com/391821/ this file?15:28
randomactionit depends on how you call it; "debian/rules TARGET" will run TARGET15:28
persiawzssyqa: What are you asking, precisely?15:28
wzssyqarandomaction: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot i just run it15:29
wzssyqarandomaction: then ,which one?15:29
persiawzssyqa: You'd have to check the source of dpkg-buildpackage to see what it does, but it oughtn't matter.  Try to make each rule do as described at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules15:29
randomactionwzssyqa: see "man dpkg-buildpackage", points 3 and 515:31
wzssyqarandomaction: o,thx15:31
randomactionand I agree with persia: there are certain semantics to these targets15:32
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ScottL_I am trying to update the ubuntustudio-theme package but I'm concerned about using the correct methodology17:31
ScottL_i'm trying to add a plymouth theme to it17:32
ScottL_my concern lies with the versioning of the ubuntustudio-theme package17:32
ScottL_currently it is ubuntustudio-theme-0.7317:32
ScottL_when I add the plymouth theme, should I leave the source directory as 0.37 and run debuild -S which should give me a diff.gz file or17:33
ScottL_should I almost treat it as a new package and rename the source folder as 0.8317:34
ScottL_this is for submitting for a UI Freeze exception to add the plymouth theme17:34
ScottL_i've backported and packaged for new applications but never updated a package before17:35
randomactionif this is an Ubuntu-specific native package, you should just increase version number in changelog17:40
randomactiondebuild will rename directory for you17:40
randomactionand there should be no .diff.gz at all17:43
ScottL_randomaction: thanks, you answered before I could rewrite the questions in a more "lucid" way - get it, lucid?  hahaha17:48
ScottL_randomaction: jocularity aside, thanks for the answer, i've been worried about this since last night because I had already changed the version number in the changelog but was concerned about the folder name with version name17:48
randomactionyou're welcome :)17:49
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christoph_debianhm #535274 isn't complete but needs some subscription of relevant persons?19:11
BlackZbug #53527419:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 535274 in cl-irc "Sync cl-irc 1:0.8.1-dfsg-3.1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53527419:12
BlackZchrisccoulson: why isn't the message signed?19:16
BlackZchristoph_debian: why isn't the message signed?19:16
BlackZchrisccoulson: sorry, tab mistake19:16
chrisccoulsonheh ;)19:16
christoph_debianBlackZ: because I have hard trouble getting that bug through in any way19:16
BlackZand * Update for flexistream in unstable (Closes: #567812) <- you can use (LP: #567812) instead.19:17
BlackZhowever it should be signed19:17
christoph_debianthat's what is in debian do I really need an extra upload for ubuntu?19:18
christoph_debiansyncing has always worked19:18
christoph_debian#567812 is a debian bug not a ubuntu one19:19
BlackZah, then it's ok christoph_debian19:19
geserBlackZ: what you mean with "signed"?19:21
BlackZgeser: signed with PGP19:22
BlackZchristoph_debian: have you check if the package build?19:25
BlackZbuilds*19:27
christoph_debianBlackZ: jep I've tested it19:32
randomactionchristoph_debian: the bug is OK19:32
christoph_debianrandomaction: jep archive sponsors are nos subscribed as well, however not sure if that was a late result of my requestsync call or of someone's action here in the channel19:33
randomactiona sponsor will look at it, ack it and subscribe ubuntu-archive19:34
geserBlackZ: if a bug is filed directly in LP (or via the LP API) there is no signing necessary. Signing is only needed for the e-mail interface19:35
christoph_debianjep (not the first time I request a sync but the first time requestsync dies with horrible error messages)19:35
gesera HTTP 412 error? known problem and not only requestsync is affected19:36
randomactionwhen it crashes you need to subscribe u-u-s (which geser did for you in this case)19:36
christoph_debianfirst it failed because I had a outdated system clock ...19:37
christoph_debianand then the 41219:38
christoph_debian:)19:38
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Linux000Hello, I have a patch for an upstream project that I would like to submit and was wondering how/where to post it?23:29
vorianLinux000: launchpad.net23:39
vorianyou should be able to find the appropriate package, see if it has a bug your patch fixes, post it to that bug.  If it doesn't have a bug, open a new one and attach your patch23:40
Linux000vorian: Thanks23:52
voriannp23:52
vorianwhen you submit the patch, make sure to subscribe (not assign) universe-sponsors to the bug23:52
vorianLinux000: that way someone will look at it23:53
Linux000Will do23:53
vorianfantastic23:53
Linux000the plot thickens, the source isn't in Debian format, hmm23:59
vorianit doesn't have to be23:59

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