[10:29] <czajkowski> Aloha
[10:59] <davmor2> morning all
[11:34] <ara> morning czajkowski, davmor2, pedro_
[11:34] <pedro_> good morning ara
[11:34] <pedro_> hello everybody
[11:34] <davmor2> ara: how's spain this morning? covered in snow?
[11:35] <czajkowski> ara: hey how's you, think I may haev driven poor seb128  slightly up the wall last night trying to find out the details behind my lack of software center bug
[11:38] <ara> czajkowski, nice :) let's get that fixed!
[11:38] <ara> davmor2, well, north of Spain is, here, at the South is cold, but not snowing
[11:39] <davmor2> Oh
[12:25] <waltercool> Is working fine the new kernel?
[13:44]  * ara -> lunch
[13:46] <cr3> it seems there are no daily images today, I wonder what happened
[13:48] <persia> cr3: Did you look for logs?
[13:48]  * davmor2 points at fader_ it was him cr3 he blew up the image server cause he wanted the day off.
[13:48]  * persia suspects glib
[13:48] <cr3> persia: where?
[13:48] <fader_> davmor2: Shhhh, it doesn't work if you call attention to it
[13:48] <persia> cr3: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/ and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/
[13:49] <cr3> persia: how the heck do you keep track of all those urls?
[13:49] <davmor2> cr3: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/
[13:49] <davmor2> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/
[13:50] <persia> cr3: heuristics, mostly.
[13:52] <davmor2> by the way morning fader_ cr3
[13:52] <fader_> Morning all :)
[13:53] <cr3> davmor2: hey dude
[13:53] <fader_> cr3: persia was in a mad experiment gone horribly awry and had half of his brain replaced with a set of flash cards
[13:54] <fader_> *electronic flash cards, not the kind on index cards
[13:55] <cr3> fader_: I'd like to have a look at that deck
[13:57] <davmor2> cr3: I cheat there is this wonderful invention called bookmarks ;)
[13:59] <fader_> davmor2: We're still trying to introduce him to using a mouse... don't go too fast
[13:59]  * davmor2 double checks if w3c has bookmarking ability
[14:00] <davmor2> fail w3m
[14:01] <davmor2> fader_: w3m has bookmarks :D
[14:01] <persia> davmor2: "ESC a"
[14:01] <cr3> davmor2: I've got bookmarks, but I wouldn't mind if we all shared our useful ubuntu related bookmarks someday. I'm sure we'd learn a thing or two
[14:01] <cr3> more like discover rather than learn, actually
[14:01] <persia> There cannot exist an authoritative set.
[14:02] <persia> A number of the scattered QA tools are linked from qa.ubuntuwire.com : please file bugs if there are others that *should* be there.
[14:02] <cr3> persia: not necessarily for the purpose of building such an authoritative list, just to know what others find important in case we missed anything
[14:02] <davmor2> persia: no but there could be a wiki page of useful qa links :)
[14:03] <cr3> fader_: you're popular, you're people.c.c page is on qa.ubuntu.com :)
[14:04] <fader_> cr3: Not only that, but I made a blog post that got a *comment*.  (No autographs, please.)
[14:04] <cr3> fader_: dude, I want to become your official stalker
[14:05] <fader_> cr3: I was rather hoping my stalker would be Christina Ricci, but hey, I've got to start somewhere.
[14:06] <davmor2> fader_: won't that mean that you and cr3 will just be going round in circles as your his official stalker :D
[14:06] <fader_> davmor2: I thought you were stalking him this week.
[14:07] <davmor2> fader_: No, when I said I was hunting for hush puppies that didn't mean I was stalking cr3 :D
[14:08] <cr3> davmor2: that would be a good code name though
[14:34] <primes2h> cr3: Hello. Looking at translation strings, this one seems to be old. Are you aware of this? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/checkbox/+pots/checkbox/it/54/+translate
[14:34] <primes2h> cr3: if you need I can open a bug.
[14:36] <cr3> primes2h: that string still seems to exist, what makes you say otherwise?
[14:40] <primes2h> cr3: I mean, the application involved is no longer present in Ubuntu.
[14:42] <primes2h> so, it's useless
[14:43] <persia> Or rather, the string should probably be adjusted in checkbox to match current tools
[14:43] <cr3> persia: I'm trying to find the current tool and I can't find it for the life of me
[14:44] <persia> cr3: Check with the #ubuntu+1 folk.  They usually have all the nifty ways to get stuff done figured out by this point in the cycle.
[14:44] <primes2h> persia: it refers to built-in modem, and AFAIK there is not a tools for that now.
[14:45] <primes2h> persia: at least, in a default installation
[14:45] <persia> primes2h: I know there to be several tools.  I don't know if the current NM exposes them well.
[14:45] <cr3> primes2h: I'll double check with the folks in #ubuntu+1 and, if I don't get an answer, you can assume the question will magically go away :)
[14:45] <persia> Looks like a regression to me.
[14:46] <persia> There are a number of use cases for using a modem to connect that do not go away just because other networking technologies are available.
[14:46] <primes2h> persia: yes, it is.
[14:46] <persia> primes2h: cr3: If you can't figure out how to make it work simply, please file a bug with the "regression" tag.
[14:46] <primes2h> persia: users usually use (sorry for this :-) ) vwdial.
[14:46] <persia> (better to try to fix now than have 10,000 annoyed users post-release)
[14:47] <primes2h> and gnome-ppp as UI
[14:47] <persia> vwdial?
[14:47] <persia> Ought either be in the repos, or we ought have a good alternative.
[14:47] <cr3> very weird dial?
[14:48] <persia> But I know ppp is installed by default, because it's used for many 3G connections.
[14:48] <persia> So it's just a matter of exposing a UI, etc.
[14:49] <primes2h> cr3: :-D
[14:49] <primes2h> persia: you are right.
[14:50] <cr3> primes2h: gnome-ppp looks good but I'm still waiting on the default or preferred way
[14:54] <primes2h> cr3: yes, I agree with you.
[15:17] <charlie-tca> Any idea when we will see alternate and server images again?
[15:18] <charlie-tca> No alternate images for xubuntu and no server images since 2010-03-05
[15:23] <persia> known issue: ought be sorted tomorrow.
[15:24] <persia> several causes.
[16:13] <melvin> Hello. After Upgrading to 10.04 i got Error on Boot: "mount point /proc/bus/usb does not exist" how can i fix it?
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Thanks, persia
[17:07] <melvin> i found it, was an VirtualBox Problem