[03:47] <nhaines> Greetings, all.  I thought I'd ask if anyone's seen SVGs for the new Ubuntu logo yet?
[05:23] <Bahe> nhaines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand
[05:28] <Bahe> nfunqu
[05:30] <nhaines> Bahe: thank you, but that does not have what I was asking after.
[05:39] <digital_1> Anyone know where I can leave some feedback regarding the new theming of Lucid?  I ***DO*** appreciate the hard work, but the new theme looks wrong- as in more than one step backward.
[05:42] <digital_1> And... is the branding standard moving away from orange and to the purple?  I'm not talking about just the Ambiance theme- but also the standard for logos, etc.?
[05:46] <nhaines> digital_1: yes, it's now orange and aubergine.
[05:46] <nhaines> You'll see more orange for community-focused stuff, and more aubergine for enterprise-focused stuff.
[05:46] <nhaines> You'll find more behind the rationale here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308
[05:47] <nhaines> The theme is definitely growing on me since the big announcement.
[05:47] <vish> digital_1: file a bug :)
[05:48] <digital_1> vish thanks I'll do that.
[05:48] <vish> digital_1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+filebug
[12:08] <thorwil> arg, misplaced an </em> on a comment on Ivanka's blog
[12:09] <knome> thorwil, congrats ;)
[13:26] <lassegul> thorwil: under whitch name did u post under? cant see it?
[13:26] <thorwil> lassegul: http://www.ivankamajic.com/?p=281#comment-30504
[13:27] <lassegul> bah found it. IE6 page search sucks :)
[13:28] <lassegul> its getting flooded pretty fast, but at least people dont flame.
[13:29] <thorwil> new nugget of what is rather the opposite of wisdom: "Let the market decide. If your setup is superior, people will choose it and it will dominate."
[13:30] <lassegul> well, in retrospect that statement makes sense.
[13:30] <lassegul> but it doesnt fit very well to help make a decision
[13:30] <thorwil> lassegul: the market opting for superior solutions brought us Windows dominance ...
[13:32] <thorwil> lassegul: way too few people in that thread willing to look at it from more than one side
[13:32] <lassegul> any way you look at it, you should fall down on putting all the buttons on the right side.
[13:33] <lassegul> imo
[13:33] <lassegul> brb
[14:02] <highvoltage> hi, some of you might have seen my message to the list regarding https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/525295
[14:03] <highvoltage> is it better to work around that in the breathe-icon-theme or is the bug expected to be fixed before release?
[15:01] <kwwii> highvoltage: I think it will be fixed before release
[15:01] <kwwii> highvoltage: as that happens with any theme except the default
[15:02] <kwwii> highvoltage: essentially it is a matter of having -panel icons in the theme for that purpose
[15:02] <kwwii> anyone interested in the button discussion: http://www.ivankamajic.com/
[15:05] <highvoltage> kwwii: ok thanks for the input
[15:05] <highvoltage> I read that blog entry this morning, planning to do my own one :)
[15:12] <kwwii> :)
[16:03] <kwwii> dashua: this might interest you for Dust... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/522471
[16:03] <kwwii> and anyone else here who works on gtk themes
[16:35] <zniavre> the fix you gave does not work here
[16:35] <zniavre> "soundfix"
[16:37] <zniavre> it's fg[ACTIVE]
[16:38] <zniavre> not bg normal
[16:41] <zniavre> ooops sorry im wrong
[16:42] <zniavre> it's bg[NORMAL]    shame on me
[17:22] <kwwii> zniavre: erm, no
[17:22] <kwwii> ahhh, you found it
[17:22] <kwwii> ;-)
[18:01] <zniavre> kwwii,  sorry
[18:02] <zniavre> :o(O:
[18:05] <kwwii> ;)
[18:16] <vish> sheesh! i got spooked by ivanka blog reply mailer :/
[18:17] <vish> *'s
[18:17] <vish> for a min i was wondering who is "Balkan Witch" , they i realized the mail id ;p
[18:17] <thorwil> lol
[18:18] <vish> s/they/then
[18:19] <thorwil> vish: just don't walk into any forest ...
[18:34] <vish> ;)
[19:13] <kwwii> lol
[19:18] <psyke83> kwwii: hey, there's still a small bug in the light themes - the ComboBox inactive text doesn't match anything else. Is it worth filing a bug or will I show you here?
[19:37] <kwwii> psyke83: here is good neough
[19:37] <kwwii> enough
[19:39] <kwwii> psyke83: or, if you want file a bug or just email me
[19:43] <psyke83> kwwii: never mind, I'll file a bug. A whole style section was removed from the themes that was necessary
[19:45] <kwwii> psyke83: cool, please do
[19:45] <kwwii> psyke83: and assign it me
[19:54] <dashua> psyke83, I got it fixed
[21:12] <zniavre> there is a way to isolate the inkscape toolbar as dust theme does for firefox and OOo ?
[21:13] <kwwii> zniavre: I doubt it, I think it is a totally normal toolbar
[21:13] <zniavre> yep im afraid about that
[21:13] <zniavre> eXperience told me nothing interesting
[21:14] <zniavre> that s sad when a consept theme struggle with gtk reality
[21:14] <zniavre> concept*
[21:18] <zniavre> i was almost ready to submit it to the wiki...
[22:00] <kwwii> zniavre: well, you could always ask the inkscape crew
[22:00] <kwwii> we employ a coupld of them ;)
[22:00] <kwwii> couple
[22:00] <kwwii> but unless it is it's own class or widget or such it won't work
[22:01] <zniavre> ok but i think they do not change anything for me or my theme
[22:03] <kwwii> no definitely not
[22:04] <zniavre> :o)
[22:04] <kwwii> the only reason they would/should change something is to make an improvement for all themes
[22:04] <kwwii> ie to make inkscape itself better
[22:04] <kwwii> why do you want to change just that toolbar?
[22:04] <kwwii> you *can* change the look of all the toolbars
[22:05] <zniavre> it does not look good and usable
[22:05] <kwwii> only in inkscape?
[22:05] <zniavre> yes
[22:05] <kwwii> let me ask somebody, one second
[22:08] <zniavre> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1702/captureyk.png
[22:09] <zniavre> sorry for the menubar but it does not influence the theme
[22:11] <kwwii> so you want the lower toolbar to be lighter or such, right?
[22:12] <zniavre> no all he toolbar lighter
[22:12] <zniavre> the*
[22:14] <kwwii> right
[22:14] <kwwii> well, I was suggested this: http://chipx86.github.com/gtkparasite/
[22:14] <kwwii> which I have never used myself
[22:14] <kwwii> but I will look into it
[22:16] <zniavre> http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2521/capture3q.png  look this screenshot > same theme but exception for firefox/openoffice
[22:16] <zniavre> inkscape looks not good at all
[22:16] <kwwii> hrm, very freaky
[22:16] <kwwii> I assumed that if you style the toolbars it would be global
[22:16] <kwwii> seems strange
[22:17] <kwwii> ahh, you are special casing FF and OOo
[22:17] <zniavre> yes following what dust theme can do
[22:18] <kwwii> hrm, I am sure you can do it, if you know the right widget name
[22:18] <zniavre> i tried eXperience but i did not find it
[22:18] <kwwii> hrm
[22:18] <zniavre> it s not easy to use all this output
[22:19] <zniavre> :o)
[22:19] <kwwii> indeed
[22:19] <kwwii> gtk themeing is hard
[22:19] <kwwii> there is little or no documentation
[22:20] <zniavre> and i m not so smart  :o)  too old to learn quickly
[22:43] <kwwii> zniavre: lol, if you are old, I wonder what that makes me
[22:44] <zniavre> :o)
[22:44] <zniavre> grrr gtkparasite does not work at the moment
[22:45] <zniavre> ho there is a package in synaptic
[22:46] <zniavre> let me make clean all that stuff
[22:46] <kwwii> :-)
[22:47] <zniavre> and it works ...
[22:48] <andreasn> there is a parasite deb?
[22:48] <zniavre> yep
[22:49] <andreasn> url?
[22:49] <zniavre> http://packages.debian.org/fr/sid/gtkparasite it gives me idea to try apt-get install gtkparTABTAB and it works
[22:50] <andreasn> ah, cool. I had no idea it was in universe
[22:50] <andreasn> I've been looking around for a ppa all this time :)
[22:50] <zniavre> :o) always check synaptic before ./autogen.sh
[22:52] <andreasn> hm, how do I use it?
[22:53] <andreasn> aha
[22:53] <andreasn> GTK_MODULES=gtkparasite appname
[23:00] <zniavre> yes
[23:01] <zniavre> use it it not so complicated ...
[23:01] <zniavre> the thing is to understand all the datas it gives
[23:01] <zniavre> in fact im stuck now
[23:02] <zniavre> :o)
[23:06] <zniavre> i feel its good application (i should learn some pygtk functions before ...)
[23:08] <kwwii> zniavre: I will look into it tomorrow
[23:09] <kwwii> also, I think I am going to start a wiki page about the murrine engine
[23:09] <kwwii> :p
[23:09] <kwwii> talking to Andrea, the maintainer, it would be a great help
[23:10] <zniavre> he's not often present even in #murrine
[23:10] <zniavre> present > online
[23:11] <kwwii> but he talks to me :)
[23:11] <kwwii> on facebook of all places
[23:11] <knome> lol
[23:17] <zniavre> :o)
[23:17] <zniavre> never use facebook ...
[23:18] <knome> i'm not registered to facebook
[23:25] <zniavre> hav a good night